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[ot] about getting rid of PDS, was: aoo for android

Greetings,

in the recent "aoo for android" thread I have very briefly mentioned
that there are more and more contexts where the sooner PDF is
abandoned, the better.

Just for general information, here are some very recent news and
general background about one of those context, that is documents from
Public Administrations (and, in perspective, also documents _sent_ to
Public Administrations, or non-spreadsheet documents, as the one in
the article is just the current step of a much wider, general trend):

(my summary)

"Government data PDF enthusiasts in UK will be 'dealt with', says
Cabinet Office minister, because they break their own (=UK government)
open government license"

Full story:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2012/oct/17/open-government-data-pdfs

Marco
http://mfioretti.com

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Re: [ot] about getting rid of PDF, was: aoo for android

Posted by Hagar Delest <ha...@laposte.net>.
Well, there is a difference between releasing data for just reading (either on screen or on paper) and providing access to data for post-processing.
Of course PDF is not good for data handling. But for most of the documents that should be read-only, it's still the best bet.
How many people would bother have access to all these information provided by the govt? I don't say it's not useful, it is for transparency. But very few people need that.

Hagar


Le 18/10/2012 15:45, M. Fioretti a écrit :

> On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 21:59:05 PM +1100, Martin Groenescheij wrote:
>
>>> Full story:
>>>
>>> http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2012/oct/17/open-government-data-pdfs
>> And the article said:
>> Only the Department for International Development routinely
>> publishes the data in its annual report as an _*excel*_ download.
>> Since when is MS-Office *open*?
>
> Martin,
>
> of course, you are right. This said, the goal of this thread was
> specifically to show a real case in which PDF (not PDS, of course,
> sorry for the typo in the subject) is much, much closer even of
> formats like .doc, .xls etc, that do preserve internal information in
> a way that is easy to process (semi) automatically.
>
> Marco
> http://mfioretti.com
>
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Re: [ot] about getting rid of PDF, was: aoo for android

Posted by "M. Fioretti" <mf...@nexaima.net>.
On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 21:59:05 PM +1100, Martin Groenescheij wrote:

> >Full story:
> >
> >http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2012/oct/17/open-government-data-pdfs
> And the article said:
> Only the Department for International Development routinely
> publishes the data in its annual report as an _*excel*_ download.
> Since when is MS-Office *open*?

Martin,

of course, you are right. This said, the goal of this thread was
specifically to show a real case in which PDF (not PDS, of course,
sorry for the typo in the subject) is much, much closer even of
formats like .doc, .xls etc, that do preserve internal information in
a way that is easy to process (semi) automatically.

Marco
http://mfioretti.com

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Re: [ot] about getting rid of PDS, was: aoo for android

Posted by Martin Groenescheij <Ma...@Groenescheij.COM>.
On 18/10/2012 7:25 PM, M. Fioretti wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> in the recent "aoo for android" thread I have very briefly mentioned
> that there are more and more contexts where the sooner PDF is
> abandoned, the better.
>
> Just for general information, here are some very recent news and
> general background about one of those context, that is documents from
> Public Administrations (and, in perspective, also documents _sent_ to
> Public Administrations, or non-spreadsheet documents, as the one in
> the article is just the current step of a much wider, general trend):
>
> (my summary)
>
> "Government data PDF enthusiasts in UK will be 'dealt with', says
> Cabinet Office minister, because they break their own (=UK government)
> open government license"
>
> Full story:
>
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2012/oct/17/open-government-data-pdfs
And the article said:
Only the Department for International Development 
routinely publishes the data in its annual report 
as an _*excel*_ download.
Since when is MS-Office *open*?
>
> Marco
> http://mfioretti.com
>
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