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Posted to users@openoffice.apache.org by CMLDMB <pu...@inglesidepublishing.com> on 2015/08/02 21:55:54 UTC
Moving pages
Dear list members,
I was wondering if you could move pages from location A to location D
without "copy/paste"? The last information I found on this topic said
no, but it was posted in the AOo forum in May 2013. Maybe a new feature
has been added since then?
Thanks!
Cindy
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Re: Moving pages
Posted by Brian Barker <b....@btinternet.com>.
At 16:43 02/08/2015 -0500, Cindy Noname wrote:
>Yes, a ton of formatting and page breaks.
But text formatting and manual page breaks will be safely moved along
with your cut-and-pasted text. That's no problem. You need to use the
default Paste, not Paste Special and "Unformatted text". If you are
using the Paste button in the Standard toolbar, you need to use it
directly or - if you use its associated drop-down menu - to use
OpenOffice Writer, not "Unformatted text". If you are using the
keyboard shortcut, use Ctrl+V, not Ctrl+Shift+V.
>Just moving text is not optimal.
But that's exactly what you asked to do! If (as it seems) you are
distinguishing between moving pages and moving text, it seems that
you may indeed be pasting unformatted text. If so, that alone is the
source of your difficulty.
Brian Barker
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Re: Moving pages
Posted by CMLDMB <pu...@inglesidepublishing.com>.
Yes, a ton of formatting and page breaks. Just moving text is not
optimal. But, I've already done it, so no big deal now. Thank you for
your help!
Cindy
On 8/2/2015 4:39 PM, Brian Barker wrote:
> At 14:55 02/08/2015 -0500, Cindy Noname wrote:
>> I was wondering if you could move pages from location A to location D
>> without "copy/paste"?
>
> To answer this properly, one would need to know what it was about
> cutting and pasting that you don't like. Cut-and-paste is the obvious
> - very simple and effective - method, and you'd need to say what you
> don't like about it before anyone could suggest an alternative that
> would meet your requirements.
>
> First (and has already been explained), the text in a word processor
> document is generally not structured in pages but is a continuous
> stream. Unless you have inserted manual page breaks, the concept of a
> page is very fluid and variable as you edit the material. You can see
> this demonstrated if you select View | Web Layout instead of Print
> Layout. What was an integral number of complete pages may not be after
> it is placed somewhere else in the document.
>
> But there is a simple answer to your question. Yes: if you select a
> block of text you can then drag it with the mouse and drop it in an
> alternative location. Does that escape your strictures? You may find
> it easier to see what you are doing if you (perhaps temporarily?)
> select a significantly smaller zoom factor and larger number of
> columns at View | Zoom... .
>
> I trust this helps.
>
> Brian Barker
>
>
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Re: Moving pages
Posted by Brian Barker <b....@btinternet.com>.
At 14:55 02/08/2015 -0500, Cindy Noname wrote:
>I was wondering if you could move pages from location A to location
>D without "copy/paste"?
To answer this properly, one would need to know what it was about
cutting and pasting that you don't like. Cut-and-paste is the obvious
- very simple and effective - method, and you'd need to say what you
don't like about it before anyone could suggest an alternative that
would meet your requirements.
First (and has already been explained), the text in a word processor
document is generally not structured in pages but is a continuous
stream. Unless you have inserted manual page breaks, the concept of a
page is very fluid and variable as you edit the material. You can see
this demonstrated if you select View | Web Layout instead of Print
Layout. What was an integral number of complete pages may not be
after it is placed somewhere else in the document.
But there is a simple answer to your question. Yes: if you select a
block of text you can then drag it with the mouse and drop it in an
alternative location. Does that escape your strictures? You may find
it easier to see what you are doing if you (perhaps temporarily?)
select a significantly smaller zoom factor and larger number of
columns at View | Zoom... .
I trust this helps.
Brian Barker
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Re: Moving pages
Posted by Rory O'Farrell <of...@iol.ie>.
On Sun, 02 Aug 2015 15:45:30 -0500
CMLDMB <pu...@inglesidepublishing.com> wrote:
> Yes, it is as I thought. No option has been created for that purpose.
> It makes sense. Thank you for confirming what I thought already to be true.
You can place a frame on a page (even a full page) and insert text into that frame. This can then be moved as a unit. However OpenOffice Writer is not really a frame based editor (i.e. it is not a FrameMaker replcemnt).
If I were working on a page oriented document, I would be tempted to use Impress; one can resize the slide to a paper size and work on a page by page basis; the text formatting facilities are not as powerful as in Writer, but for many purposes they might be satisfactory.
>
> On 8/2/2015 3:39 PM, Rory O'Farrell wrote:
> > On Sun, 02 Aug 2015 14:55:54 -0500
> > CMLDMB <pu...@inglesidepublishing.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Dear list members,
> >>
> >> I was wondering if you could move pages from location A to location D
> >> without "copy/paste"? The last information I found on this topic said
> >> no, but it was posted in the AOo forum in May 2013. Maybe a new feature
> >> has been added since then?
> >>
> >> Thanks!
> >> Cindy
> > If you are working in Writer, the answer is more or less "no". Writer works on a stream of text and inserts page breaks where necessary into the output, which is intended for a printer. The pages you see are fictitious and depend on the output paper size. If you mark text on a page and insert it somewhere else in the document, it is inserted into the stream of text and the text re-paginated to account for the missing text in one place and the added text in the other place.
> >
> > If you have marked the text by /Insert /Manual break : Page break, then that text can be moved as a unit and will remain a unit, provided you move the inserted page breaks with it.
> >
>
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Re: Moving pages
Posted by CMLDMB <pu...@inglesidepublishing.com>.
Yes, it is as I thought. No option has been created for that purpose.
It makes sense. Thank you for confirming what I thought already to be true.
On 8/2/2015 3:39 PM, Rory O'Farrell wrote:
> On Sun, 02 Aug 2015 14:55:54 -0500
> CMLDMB <pu...@inglesidepublishing.com> wrote:
>
>> Dear list members,
>>
>> I was wondering if you could move pages from location A to location D
>> without "copy/paste"? The last information I found on this topic said
>> no, but it was posted in the AOo forum in May 2013. Maybe a new feature
>> has been added since then?
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Cindy
> If you are working in Writer, the answer is more or less "no". Writer works on a stream of text and inserts page breaks where necessary into the output, which is intended for a printer. The pages you see are fictitious and depend on the output paper size. If you mark text on a page and insert it somewhere else in the document, it is inserted into the stream of text and the text re-paginated to account for the missing text in one place and the added text in the other place.
>
> If you have marked the text by /Insert /Manual break : Page break, then that text can be moved as a unit and will remain a unit, provided you move the inserted page breaks with it.
>
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Re: Moving pages
Posted by Rory O'Farrell <of...@iol.ie>.
On Sun, 02 Aug 2015 14:55:54 -0500
CMLDMB <pu...@inglesidepublishing.com> wrote:
> Dear list members,
>
> I was wondering if you could move pages from location A to location D
> without "copy/paste"? The last information I found on this topic said
> no, but it was posted in the AOo forum in May 2013. Maybe a new feature
> has been added since then?
>
> Thanks!
> Cindy
If you are working in Writer, the answer is more or less "no". Writer works on a stream of text and inserts page breaks where necessary into the output, which is intended for a printer. The pages you see are fictitious and depend on the output paper size. If you mark text on a page and insert it somewhere else in the document, it is inserted into the stream of text and the text re-paginated to account for the missing text in one place and the added text in the other place.
If you have marked the text by /Insert /Manual break : Page break, then that text can be moved as a unit and will remain a unit, provided you move the inserted page breaks with it.
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Rory O'Farrell <of...@iol.ie>
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