[Nominations] Finding a new Chair for James

[Danny Angus <da...@apache.org>]

Hi,

As announced last week Serge is stepping down as Chair of James' PMC.

PMC Members: Read this whole message.

/1 Please post your nominations for the new chair to general@james.

Nominations should be from the James commiters (if a non PMC member is
elected we will rectify that situation)

You can see the commiters listed here http://james.apache.org/weare.html

2/ A nomination requires a "second" is required, a PMC member must
indicate that they "second" a nomination.

You may nominate and second more then one candidate.

3/ Nominations will close at 12:00 GMT 12/Nov/2007.

If more than two candidates are nominated and seconded a VOTE will be
held on general@james list immediately following the close of
nominations.

5/ Candidates are encouraged to describe the qualities which they will
bring to the role, and how they believe they can add value to our
project.

Thank you.

d.

Re: [Nominations] Finding a new Chair for James

[Stefano Bagnara <ap...@bago.org>]

Danny Angus ha scritto:
> On 07/11/2007, Stefano Bagnara <ap...@bago.org> wrote:
> 
>> 1) Shouldn't we ask to every seconded candidate whether they are willing
>> to accept it before starting the vote, so to not run a vote that will
>> elect someone that does not want to accept?
> 
> Yes, very good idea! I didn't think that through did I?
> 
>> 2) How the vote between multiple candidates will work?
>> - Single preference between the candidate
>> - Multiple preferences, the candidate with more preferences is elected?
>> - Ranked preferences[1], I'm a fan of ranked voting but I guess they are
>> not part of the ASF history.
> 
> I've thought long and hard about this,  my culture makes me expect a
> simple majority to be the "normal" way, but if you'd rather use some
> other means we can if we agree on it. What do you want to do?

I don't have strong preferences, I just want to understand how we will
do it :-) I think that "single preference" when you have few voters (PMC
members) and many options (seconded people) is less accurate than other
solutions.

If there is someone that partecipated in one or more similar votes in
past we can follow the same procedure.

>> 3) Does -1 or similar exists in the PMC Chair vote, and what is its meaning?
> 
> No, I've never heard of that, we're a commitee electing its chair,
> majority rule is normal.

ok, thank you!

Stefano

Re: [Nominations] Finding a new Chair for James

[Danny Angus <da...@apache.org>]

On 07/11/2007, Stefano Bagnara <ap...@bago.org> wrote:

> 1) Shouldn't we ask to every seconded candidate whether they are willing
> to accept it before starting the vote, so to not run a vote that will
> elect someone that does not want to accept?

Yes, very good idea! I didn't think that through did I?

> 2) How the vote between multiple candidates will work?
> - Single preference between the candidate
> - Multiple preferences, the candidate with more preferences is elected?
> - Ranked preferences[1], I'm a fan of ranked voting but I guess they are
> not part of the ASF history.

I've thought long and hard about this,  my culture makes me expect a
simple majority to be the "normal" way, but if you'd rather use some
other means we can if we agree on it. What do you want to do?

> 3) Does -1 or similar exists in the PMC Chair vote, and what is its meaning?

No, I've never heard of that, we're a commitee electing its chair,
majority rule is normal.

d.

Re: [Nominations] Finding a new Chair for James

[Stefano Bagnara <ap...@bago.org>]

Danny Angus ha scritto:
> [...]
> 3/ Nominations will close at 12:00 GMT 12/Nov/2007.
> 
> If more than two candidates are nominated and seconded a VOTE will be
> held on general@james list immediately following the close of
> nominations.

1) Shouldn't we ask to every seconded candidate whether they are willing
to accept it before starting the vote, so to not run a vote that will
elect someone that does not want to accept?

2) How the vote between multiple candidates will work?
- Single preference between the candidate
- Multiple preferences, the candidate with more preferences is elected?
- Ranked preferences[1], I'm a fan of ranked voting but I guess they are
not part of the ASF history.

3) Does -1 or similar exists in the PMC Chair vote, and what is its meaning?

[1]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effects_of_different_voting_systems_under_similar_circumstances#Rank_preference_voting_systems

Stefano

Re: [Nominations] Finding a new Chair for James

[Robert Burrell Donkin <ro...@gmail.com>]

On Nov 6, 2007 5:06 PM, Noel J. Bergman <no...@devtech.com> wrote:
> In addition to Danny, whom I have just seconded, I'll nominate Vincenzo.

vincenzo would be great

seconded

- robert

RE: [Nominations] Finding a new Chair for James

["Noel J. Bergman" <no...@devtech.com>]

In addition to Danny, whom I have just seconded, I'll nominate Vincenzo.

	--- Noel