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[IMAP] JPAMailbox and JCRMailbox
Hi all (Robert ;)),
what is the status of JPAMailbox and JCRMailbox in IMAP-Trunk ? How
stable is it ? what needs to get done to complete it ? I think with
the spring deployment in james server trunk it would be really easy to
use one of these too..
Thx,
Norman
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Re: [IMAP] JPAMailbox and JCRMailbox
Posted by Norman Maurer <no...@googlemail.com>.
Cool,
I would be really interested in hearing how it worked out for you, and
as always... Patches welcome =P
Bye,
Norman
2010/1/7 Dhrubo <dh...@gmail.com>:
> Sorry plugging in should be a better option.
>
> On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 9:43 AM, Dhrubo <dh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> We may consider embedding a JCR-170 repository - like Jackrabbit with
>> Spring modules support.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 3:39 AM, Norman Maurer <no...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all (Robert ;)),
>>>
>>> what is the status of JPAMailbox and JCRMailbox in IMAP-Trunk ? How
>>> stable is it ? what needs to get done to complete it ? I think with
>>> the spring deployment in james server trunk it would be really easy to
>>> use one of these too..
>>>
>>> Thx,
>>> Norman
>>>
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Re: [IMAP] JPAMailbox and JCRMailbox
Posted by Dhrubo <dh...@gmail.com>.
Sorry plugging in should be a better option.
On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 9:43 AM, Dhrubo <dh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> We may consider embedding a JCR-170 repository - like Jackrabbit with
> Spring modules support.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 3:39 AM, Norman Maurer <no...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi all (Robert ;)),
>>
>> what is the status of JPAMailbox and JCRMailbox in IMAP-Trunk ? How
>> stable is it ? what needs to get done to complete it ? I think with
>> the spring deployment in james server trunk it would be really easy to
>> use one of these too..
>>
>> Thx,
>> Norman
>>
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>
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>
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Re: [IMAP] JPAMailbox and JCRMailbox
Posted by Dhrubo <dh...@gmail.com>.
We may consider embedding a JCR-170 repository - like Jackrabbit with Spring
modules support.
On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 3:39 AM, Norman Maurer <no...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi all (Robert ;)),
>
> what is the status of JPAMailbox and JCRMailbox in IMAP-Trunk ? How
> stable is it ? what needs to get done to complete it ? I think with
> the spring deployment in james server trunk it would be really easy to
> use one of these too..
>
> Thx,
> Norman
>
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Re: [IMAP] JPAMailbox and JCRMailbox
Posted by Norman Maurer <no...@googlemail.com>.
I will try to look at it ..
Thx for your comments.
Bye,
Norman
2010/1/7 Robert Burrell Donkin <ro...@gmail.com>:
> On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 2:21 PM, Norman Maurer
> <no...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>> Hi Robert,
>>
>> what you mean with ugly hack ? Could you eleborate what you think
>> needs to get cleanup ? I'm currently trying to dig into the IMAP code
>> but it seemed quite complex atm ;)
>
> IMAP's a complex protocol ;-)
>
> you need to take a look at the integration code in james
>
>> At the moment I'm even not 100% sure if we not should just use spring
>> beans to configure the Torque and OpenJPA. Maybe we could just write
>> an custom Property replacer BeanPostProcessor which will set the right
>> values in spring-beans.xml depending on the values of
>> james-config.xml. So the "end-user" will still only have one place to
>> configure stuff...
>>
>> Thoughts ?
>
> i would prefer to see the james configuration contain administration
> details such as which ports to serve on. IMAP is intended to be
> assembled using IoC and so is highly flexible but i think that adding
> this sort of configuration to the james configuration would be a big
> mistake. so, i would much prefer to see most details like torque
> settings in an independent spring assembly file associated for IMAP.
> for example, the configuration might contain a general data source URL
> and perhaps a (possibly relative) URL for an assembly file for IMAP
> but all the details would be specific to the mailbox and IMAP.
>
> - robert
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Re: [IMAP] JPAMailbox and JCRMailbox
Posted by Robert Burrell Donkin <ro...@gmail.com>.
On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 2:21 PM, Norman Maurer
<no...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Hi Robert,
>
> what you mean with ugly hack ? Could you eleborate what you think
> needs to get cleanup ? I'm currently trying to dig into the IMAP code
> but it seemed quite complex atm ;)
IMAP's a complex protocol ;-)
you need to take a look at the integration code in james
> At the moment I'm even not 100% sure if we not should just use spring
> beans to configure the Torque and OpenJPA. Maybe we could just write
> an custom Property replacer BeanPostProcessor which will set the right
> values in spring-beans.xml depending on the values of
> james-config.xml. So the "end-user" will still only have one place to
> configure stuff...
>
> Thoughts ?
i would prefer to see the james configuration contain administration
details such as which ports to serve on. IMAP is intended to be
assembled using IoC and so is highly flexible but i think that adding
this sort of configuration to the james configuration would be a big
mistake. so, i would much prefer to see most details like torque
settings in an independent spring assembly file associated for IMAP.
for example, the configuration might contain a general data source URL
and perhaps a (possibly relative) URL for an assembly file for IMAP
but all the details would be specific to the mailbox and IMAP.
- robert
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Re: [IMAP] JPAMailbox and JCRMailbox
Posted by Norman Maurer <no...@googlemail.com>.
Cool,
thx for the input :)
Bye,
Norman
2010/1/7 Robert Burrell Donkin <ro...@gmail.com>:
> On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 6:54 PM, Norman Maurer
> <no...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>> Hi Robert,
>>
>> when you say "(OpenJPA and Jackrabbit) which are nearly there" you
>> just refer to OpenJPA right ? Because I was not able to find any JCR
>> code in trunk.
>
> the OpenJPA stuff was developed with more than one eye on providing an
> easy framework for JCR. JCR should only require a handful of queries.
>
> - robert
>
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Re: [IMAP] JPAMailbox and JCRMailbox
Posted by Robert Burrell Donkin <ro...@gmail.com>.
On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 6:54 PM, Norman Maurer
<no...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Hi Robert,
>
> when you say "(OpenJPA and Jackrabbit) which are nearly there" you
> just refer to OpenJPA right ? Because I was not able to find any JCR
> code in trunk.
the OpenJPA stuff was developed with more than one eye on providing an
easy framework for JCR. JCR should only require a handful of queries.
- robert
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Re: [IMAP] JPAMailbox and JCRMailbox
Posted by Norman Maurer <no...@googlemail.com>.
Hi Robert,
when you say "(OpenJPA and Jackrabbit) which are nearly there" you
just refer to OpenJPA right ? Because I was not able to find any JCR
code in trunk.
Bye,
Norman
2010/1/7 Robert Burrell Donkin <ro...@gmail.com>:
> On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 3:26 PM, Robert L. Gurule <rg...@lanl.gov> wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I am interested in the James IMAP code, what are the plans for IMAP? I
>> am interested in helping out on this effort.
>
> cool :-)
>
> it's a good time to get involved. the functional test suite works well
> now and catch most problems. i've been running IMAP for the last
> couple of years now.
>
> in turns of plans - plenty of opportunities to get involved but no plans as such
>
> if you like concurrency then IMAP will run quite a bit quicker
> asynchronously and it should be reasonably easy to use asynchronous
> I/O
>
> if you prefer data access then there are a couple of implementations
> (OpenJPA and Jackrabbit) which are nearly there
>
> if you like protocols and standards, pick one of the unimplemented IMAP standard
>
> if you like crypto then StartTLS is close to working
>
> - robert
>
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Re: [IMAP] JPAMailbox and JCRMailbox
Posted by Robert Burrell Donkin <ro...@gmail.com>.
On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 9:08 PM, Robert L. Gurule <rg...@lanl.gov> wrote:
>
> Hi,
> Should I install the Phoenix server?
IMAP only works with james 3 so if you want to play with IMAP you'll
need to check out http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/james/server/trunk/
and build that
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Re: [IMAP] JPAMailbox and JCRMailbox
Posted by "Robert L. Gurule" <rg...@lanl.gov>.
Hi,
Should I install the Phoenix server?
Thanks,
Robert
> Hi Robert,
>
> unfortunally the current docs are not really existent :( Anyway I
> would suggest you to check out
> "http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/james/imap/trunk/" and dig into the
> code. If you are interested in writing an "costum" Mailbox
> implementation I would suggest you to look at the store and jpa module
> (the jpa module use the "store" module).
>
> If you have any question feel free to just ask..
>
> Bye,
> Norman
>
> 2010/1/11 Robert Gurule <rg...@lanl.gov>:
>> HI RObert,
>> I'm new to James and would like to come up to speed in order to develop
>> for
>> JAMES IMAP, can you suggest links or material to help me get up to
>> speed.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Robert Gurule'
>>
>>
>> Robert Burrell Donkin wrote:
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 3:26 PM, Robert L. Gurule <rg...@lanl.gov>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi All,
>>>>
>>>> I am interested in the James IMAP code, what are the plans for IMAP?
>>>> I
>>>> am interested in helping out on this effort.
>>>>
>>>
>>> cool :-)
>>>
>>> it's a good time to get involved. the functional test suite works well
>>> now and catch most problems. i've been running IMAP for the last
>>> couple of years now.
>>>
>>> in turns of plans - plenty of opportunities to get involved but no
>>> plans
>>> as such
>>>
>>> if you like concurrency then IMAP will run quite a bit quicker
>>> asynchronously and it should be reasonably easy to use asynchronous
>>> I/O
>>>
>>> if you prefer data access then there are a couple of implementations
>>> (OpenJPA and Jackrabbit) which are nearly there
>>>
>>> if you like protocols and standards, pick one of the unimplemented IMAP
>>> standard
>>>
>>> if you like crypto then StartTLS is close to working
>>>
>>> - robert
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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>> Los Alamos, New Mexico 87545
>> 505-665-3538 (office)
>> 505-690-1011 (cell)
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Re: [IMAP] JPAMailbox and JCRMailbox
Posted by Norman Maurer <no...@googlemail.com>.
Hi Robert,
unfortunally the current docs are not really existent :( Anyway I
would suggest you to check out
"http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/james/imap/trunk/" and dig into the
code. If you are interested in writing an "costum" Mailbox
implementation I would suggest you to look at the store and jpa module
(the jpa module use the "store" module).
If you have any question feel free to just ask..
Bye,
Norman
2010/1/11 Robert Gurule <rg...@lanl.gov>:
> HI RObert,
> I'm new to James and would like to come up to speed in order to develop for
> JAMES IMAP, can you suggest links or material to help me get up to speed.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Robert Gurule'
>
>
> Robert Burrell Donkin wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 3:26 PM, Robert L. Gurule <rg...@lanl.gov> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> I am interested in the James IMAP code, what are the plans for IMAP? I
>>> am interested in helping out on this effort.
>>>
>>
>> cool :-)
>>
>> it's a good time to get involved. the functional test suite works well
>> now and catch most problems. i've been running IMAP for the last
>> couple of years now.
>>
>> in turns of plans - plenty of opportunities to get involved but no plans
>> as such
>>
>> if you like concurrency then IMAP will run quite a bit quicker
>> asynchronously and it should be reasonably easy to use asynchronous
>> I/O
>>
>> if you prefer data access then there are a couple of implementations
>> (OpenJPA and Jackrabbit) which are nearly there
>>
>> if you like protocols and standards, pick one of the unimplemented IMAP
>> standard
>>
>> if you like crypto then StartTLS is close to working
>>
>> - robert
>>
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>>
>>
>
>
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> Scientific Software Engineering (HPC-1)
> Los Alamos National Laboratory, MS B295
> Los Alamos, New Mexico 87545
> 505-665-3538 (office)
> 505-690-1011 (cell)
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Re: [IMAP] JPAMailbox and JCRMailbox
Posted by Robert Gurule <rg...@lanl.gov>.
HI RObert,
I'm new to James and would like to come up to speed in order to
develop for JAMES IMAP, can you suggest links or material to help me get
up to speed.
Thanks,
Robert Gurule'
Robert Burrell Donkin wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 3:26 PM, Robert L. Gurule <rg...@lanl.gov> wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I am interested in the James IMAP code, what are the plans for IMAP? I
>> am interested in helping out on this effort.
>>
>
> cool :-)
>
> it's a good time to get involved. the functional test suite works well
> now and catch most problems. i've been running IMAP for the last
> couple of years now.
>
> in turns of plans - plenty of opportunities to get involved but no plans as such
>
> if you like concurrency then IMAP will run quite a bit quicker
> asynchronously and it should be reasonably easy to use asynchronous
> I/O
>
> if you prefer data access then there are a couple of implementations
> (OpenJPA and Jackrabbit) which are nearly there
>
> if you like protocols and standards, pick one of the unimplemented IMAP standard
>
> if you like crypto then StartTLS is close to working
>
> - robert
>
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Re: [IMAP] JPAMailbox and JCRMailbox
Posted by Robert Burrell Donkin <ro...@gmail.com>.
On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 3:26 PM, Robert L. Gurule <rg...@lanl.gov> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I am interested in the James IMAP code, what are the plans for IMAP? I
> am interested in helping out on this effort.
cool :-)
it's a good time to get involved. the functional test suite works well
now and catch most problems. i've been running IMAP for the last
couple of years now.
in turns of plans - plenty of opportunities to get involved but no plans as such
if you like concurrency then IMAP will run quite a bit quicker
asynchronously and it should be reasonably easy to use asynchronous
I/O
if you prefer data access then there are a couple of implementations
(OpenJPA and Jackrabbit) which are nearly there
if you like protocols and standards, pick one of the unimplemented IMAP standard
if you like crypto then StartTLS is close to working
- robert
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Re: [IMAP] JPAMailbox and JCRMailbox
Posted by "Robert L. Gurule" <rg...@lanl.gov>.
Hi All,
I am interested in the James IMAP code, what are the plans for IMAP? I
am interested in helping out on this effort.
Robert Gurule
LANL
> Hi Robert,
>
> what you mean with ugly hack ? Could you eleborate what you think
> needs to get cleanup ? I'm currently trying to dig into the IMAP code
> but it seemed quite complex atm ;)
>
> At the moment I'm even not 100% sure if we not should just use spring
> beans to configure the Torque and OpenJPA. Maybe we could just write
> an custom Property replacer BeanPostProcessor which will set the right
> values in spring-beans.xml depending on the values of
> james-config.xml. So the "end-user" will still only have one place to
> configure stuff...
>
> Thoughts ?
>
> Norman
>
> 2010/1/7 Robert Burrell Donkin <ro...@gmail.com>:
>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 10:09 PM, Norman Maurer <no...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>>> Hi all (Robert ;)),
>>>
>>> what is the status of JPAMailbox and JCRMailbox in IMAP-Trunk ? How
>>> stable is it ? what needs to get done to complete it ?
>>
>> depends :-)
>>
>> the functional tests suite is reasonably comprehensive so that's the
>> best way to find out how complete the each mailbox implementation is
>>
>> my installation uses torque and i don't have the time to create
>> conversion scripts so i don't know how a loaded instance will perform
>>
>>> I think with the spring deployment in james server trunk it would be
>>> really easy to use one of these too..
>>
>> the interface that used avalon is in the wrong place: in james rather
>> than IMAP. the adaption code is a ugly hack. if james now runs on
>> spring then the right way to perform the integration would by cleaning
>> up the remaining code (so it relies only on an annotation enabled
>> mailet container) and moving it into IMAP as spring and sieve modules.
>>
>> - robert
>>
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Re: [IMAP] JPAMailbox and JCRMailbox
Posted by Norman Maurer <no...@googlemail.com>.
Hi Robert,
what you mean with ugly hack ? Could you eleborate what you think
needs to get cleanup ? I'm currently trying to dig into the IMAP code
but it seemed quite complex atm ;)
At the moment I'm even not 100% sure if we not should just use spring
beans to configure the Torque and OpenJPA. Maybe we could just write
an custom Property replacer BeanPostProcessor which will set the right
values in spring-beans.xml depending on the values of
james-config.xml. So the "end-user" will still only have one place to
configure stuff...
Thoughts ?
Norman
2010/1/7 Robert Burrell Donkin <ro...@gmail.com>:
> On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 10:09 PM, Norman Maurer <no...@apache.org> wrote:
>> Hi all (Robert ;)),
>>
>> what is the status of JPAMailbox and JCRMailbox in IMAP-Trunk ? How
>> stable is it ? what needs to get done to complete it ?
>
> depends :-)
>
> the functional tests suite is reasonably comprehensive so that's the
> best way to find out how complete the each mailbox implementation is
>
> my installation uses torque and i don't have the time to create
> conversion scripts so i don't know how a loaded instance will perform
>
>> I think with the spring deployment in james server trunk it would be really easy to use one of these too..
>
> the interface that used avalon is in the wrong place: in james rather
> than IMAP. the adaption code is a ugly hack. if james now runs on
> spring then the right way to perform the integration would by cleaning
> up the remaining code (so it relies only on an annotation enabled
> mailet container) and moving it into IMAP as spring and sieve modules.
>
> - robert
>
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Posted by Robert Burrell Donkin <ro...@gmail.com>.
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 10:09 PM, Norman Maurer <no...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi all (Robert ;)),
>
> what is the status of JPAMailbox and JCRMailbox in IMAP-Trunk ? How
> stable is it ? what needs to get done to complete it ?
depends :-)
the functional tests suite is reasonably comprehensive so that's the
best way to find out how complete the each mailbox implementation is
my installation uses torque and i don't have the time to create
conversion scripts so i don't know how a loaded instance will perform
> I think with the spring deployment in james server trunk it would be really easy to use one of these too..
the interface that used avalon is in the wrong place: in james rather
than IMAP. the adaption code is a ugly hack. if james now runs on
spring then the right way to perform the integration would by cleaning
up the remaining code (so it relies only on an annotation enabled
mailet container) and moving it into IMAP as spring and sieve modules.
- robert
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