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Posted to users@httpd.apache.org by Paxton Scott <pa...@happyhome.org> on 2021/10/22 22:09:37 UTC

[users@httpd] Choosing Windows platfrorm

Greetings!

I"ve successfully run Apache, Apache2, Apache2.2 Apache 2.4 on W2K, WinXP,
Win7 and WHS2011.
I am currently running Apache2.4.46 OpenSSL/1.1.1j and PHP/7.4.7 on WHS2011

Stable and running since 2.4.46 was released.

Thinking of upgrading hardware (and Apache2.4).  Would you choose Windows
10 Pro or Windows Home Server 2011?  and why?

Thanks for any suggestions,  (I have an application that precludes using
Linux in this case.)

Have fun,

Paxton

Re: [users@httpd] Re: Choosing Windows platfrorm

Posted by Paxton Scott <pa...@happyhome.org>.

Thank you Brian.
I got my 2 copies of  WHA2011 at a $50 closeout.  Had to disable much the
MS server stuff to use and it has worked well in my application.
Just pondering weather to 'go more modern'. Your response was very helpful
to mainly confirm my analysis.
Not really seeing any big benefit of using Windows 10 Pro.  Thought maybe I
was missing something, and this would be the group to ask.
Have fun,
Paxton

On Fri, Oct 22, 2021 at 9:09 PM Brian Wolfe <wo...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> I would say if you ran it on WHS2011 it would probably work fine on the
> newer versions. unless you have some specific requirement, there probably
> won't be a difference in whether you use windows server or regular windows.
> OpenSSL and PHP can all be run on windows as you have done in the past.
> From my perspective windows server is mostly useful if your using microsoft
> specific server components such as IIS and other Microsoft integrations.
> You don't need to have any of that to run apache software. You will
> probably have to assess how your windows proprietary application works and
> make sure thats compatible.
>
> On Fri, Oct 22, 2021 at 8:16 PM 😉 Good Guy 😉 <xf...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 23/10/2021 00:46, Will Fatherley wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Nick is just verifying you don’t go by the pseudonym “back button”
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> Probably but we have moved on since those days!
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> With over 1.3 billion devices now running Windows 10, customer
>> satisfaction is higher than any previous version of windows.
>>
>>
>>
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> Brian Wolfe
> https://www.linkedin.com/in/brian-wolfe-3136425a/
>
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Re: [users@httpd] Re: Choosing Windows platfrorm

Posted by Brian Wolfe <wo...@gmail.com>.

I would say if you ran it on WHS2011 it would probably work fine on the
newer versions. unless you have some specific requirement, there probably
won't be a difference in whether you use windows server or regular windows.
OpenSSL and PHP can all be run on windows as you have done in the past.
From my perspective windows server is mostly useful if your using microsoft
specific server components such as IIS and other Microsoft integrations.
You don't need to have any of that to run apache software. You will
probably have to assess how your windows proprietary application works and
make sure thats compatible.

On Fri, Oct 22, 2021 at 8:16 PM 😉 Good Guy 😉 <xf...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> On 23/10/2021 00:46, Will Fatherley wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Nick is just verifying you don’t go by the pseudonym “back button”
> >
> >
> >
> Probably but we have moved on since those days!
>
>
> --
>
> With over 1.3 billion devices now running Windows 10, customer
> satisfaction is higher than any previous version of windows.
>
>
>
>
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[users@httpd] Re: Choosing Windows platfrorm

Posted by 😉 Good Guy 😉 <xf...@hotmail.com>.

On 23/10/2021 00:46, Will Fatherley wrote:
>
>
>
> Nick is just verifying you don’t go by the pseudonym “back button”
>
>
>
Probably but we have moved on since those days!


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Re: [users@httpd] Choosing Windows platfrorm

Posted by Will Fatherley <we...@gmail.com>.

>
>

Thinking of upgrading hardware (and Apache2.4).  Would you choose Windows
> 10 Pro or Windows Home Server 2011?  and why?
>
> Thanks for any suggestions,  (I have an application that precludes using
> Linux in this case.)
>
It’s tough to give a straight answer to this sort of question, usually for
reasons of discretion, but I can say that if your interested in
establishing testable benchmarks that help you choose, or you just want to
verify the hw&sw changes don’t affect your application’s performance, the
thing you’ll want to do is run a Docker container configured with the
desired OS and httpd versions. I mention Docker in particular only because
it’s Open source. I’m not personally familiar with Windows based service,
and so can only be helpful in the above way.

Nick is just verifying you don’t go by the pseudonym “back button”

Best,
Will F

Re: [users@httpd] Re: Choosing Windows platfrorm

Posted by Andrea Croci <an...@gmx.de>.

On 23.10.21 10:28, Marc wrote:
>> With over 1.4 billion devices now running Windows 10/11, customer
>> satisfaction is higher than any previous version of windows.
>>
>>
> WTF WTF I @#$@#$@#$ hate windows 10. Customer statisfaction with Microsoft is 0
> https://www.reddit.com/r/aargh_Microsoft/
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This is off topic, but I feel I have to contribute to it.

It was most certainly meant sarcastically: nobody can really be
satisfied with Microsoft (besides they are not actually customers, in
the sense that they don't choose to buy Windows: they are forced to live
with it).

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RE: [users@httpd] Re: Choosing Windows platfrorm

Posted by Marc <Ma...@f1-outsourcing.eu>.

> 
> With over 1.4 billion devices now running Windows 10/11, customer
> satisfaction is higher than any previous version of windows.
> 
> 

WTF WTF I @#$@#$@#$ hate windows 10. Customer statisfaction with Microsoft is 0
https://www.reddit.com/r/aargh_Microsoft/





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[users@httpd] Re: Choosing Windows platfrorm

Posted by 😉 Good Guy 😉 <xf...@hotmail.com>.

On 22/10/2021 23:30, Paxton Scott wrote:
> Nick,
> I apologize, but I do not understand what 'requirements' you are wanting.
> Currently running fine on WHS2011.  Any benefit to switching to 
> Windows 10 Pro?
> The only 'requirements' I understand is it must run Apache 2.4.x.
> Help me out here.  What are you looking for?
>
>
Is this for development work or is it for production environment?

If it is for development then it makes no difference what you use as 
long as you can continue doing what you are currently doing. For 
production then you need a proper server with security 
properly/correctly configured.

I use Windows 11 for my development work if this is of any interest to 
anybody here!!.

Good luck.

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Re: [users@httpd] Choosing Windows platfrorm

Posted by Nick Folino <ni...@folino.us>.

Requirements are what you use to determine your architecture.  You have
some requirements as you stated it must run under Windows.  Compare your
requirements with your available options and pick the best fit.  Nobody can
tell you what to use unless they know what all of your requirements are.

If your only requirement is it needs to run on a Windows OS, then why
bother to upgrade at all?

Nick


On Fri, Oct 22, 2021 at 7:00 PM Paxton Scott <pa...@happyhome.org> wrote:

> Nick,
> I apologize, but I do not understand what 'requirements' you are wanting.
> Currently running fine on WHS2011.  Any benefit to switching to Windows 10
> Pro?
> The only 'requirements' I understand is it must run Apache 2.4.x.
> Help me out here.  What are you looking for?
>
> Have fun,
> Paxton
>
> On Fri, Oct 22, 2021 at 5:15 PM Nick Folino <ni...@folino.us> wrote:
>
>> I would choose based on the requirements, of which you've provided none.
>>
>> Nick
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 22, 2021 at 6:10 PM Paxton Scott <pa...@happyhome.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Greetings!
>>>
>>> I"ve successfully run Apache, Apache2, Apache2.2 Apache 2.4 on W2K,
>>> WinXP, Win7 and WHS2011.
>>> I am currently running Apache2.4.46 OpenSSL/1.1.1j and PHP/7.4.7 on
>>> WHS2011
>>>
>>> Stable and running since 2.4.46 was released.
>>>
>>> Thinking of upgrading hardware (and Apache2.4).  Would you choose
>>> Windows 10 Pro or Windows Home Server 2011?  and why?
>>>
>>> Thanks for any suggestions,  (I have an application that precludes using
>>> Linux in this case.)
>>>
>>> Have fun,
>>>
>>> Paxton
>>>
>>

Re: [users@httpd] Choosing Windows platfrorm

Posted by Paxton Scott <pa...@happyhome.org>.

Nick,
I apologize, but I do not understand what 'requirements' you are wanting.
Currently running fine on WHS2011.  Any benefit to switching to Windows 10
Pro?
The only 'requirements' I understand is it must run Apache 2.4.x.
Help me out here.  What are you looking for?

Have fun,
Paxton

On Fri, Oct 22, 2021 at 5:15 PM Nick Folino <ni...@folino.us> wrote:

> I would choose based on the requirements, of which you've provided none.
>
> Nick
>
> On Fri, Oct 22, 2021 at 6:10 PM Paxton Scott <pa...@happyhome.org> wrote:
>
>> Greetings!
>>
>> I"ve successfully run Apache, Apache2, Apache2.2 Apache 2.4 on W2K,
>> WinXP, Win7 and WHS2011.
>> I am currently running Apache2.4.46 OpenSSL/1.1.1j and PHP/7.4.7 on
>> WHS2011
>>
>> Stable and running since 2.4.46 was released.
>>
>> Thinking of upgrading hardware (and Apache2.4).  Would you choose Windows
>> 10 Pro or Windows Home Server 2011?  and why?
>>
>> Thanks for any suggestions,  (I have an application that precludes using
>> Linux in this case.)
>>
>> Have fun,
>>
>> Paxton
>>
>

Re: [users@httpd] Choosing Windows platfrorm

Posted by Nick Folino <ni...@folino.us>.

I would choose based on the requirements, of which you've provided none.

Nick

On Fri, Oct 22, 2021 at 6:10 PM Paxton Scott <pa...@happyhome.org> wrote:

> Greetings!
>
> I"ve successfully run Apache, Apache2, Apache2.2 Apache 2.4 on W2K, WinXP,
> Win7 and WHS2011.
> I am currently running Apache2.4.46 OpenSSL/1.1.1j and PHP/7.4.7 on WHS2011
>
> Stable and running since 2.4.46 was released.
>
> Thinking of upgrading hardware (and Apache2.4).  Would you choose Windows
> 10 Pro or Windows Home Server 2011?  and why?
>
> Thanks for any suggestions,  (I have an application that precludes using
> Linux in this case.)
>
> Have fun,
>
> Paxton
>