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Posted to j-dev@xerces.apache.org by David Rees <d....@usa.net> on 2000/12/06 00:39:33 UTC
Re: [Result] Mailing lists cleanup
Will these changes be propagated to the relevant mail archives?
That said, I really don't have a handle on what the relevant mail
archives are. Both the xml.apache.org and jakarta.apache.org pages
have incorrect or dated links to mailing lists.
Personally I just want to see marc.theaimsgroup.com updated because it
seems to be only that is running, up to date, has its lists organized
and supports message searching. While I am at it, I would like to see
it mentioned on http://xml.apache.org/mail.html. IMHO, a good archive
coupled with public knowledge that it is there can seriously increase
the quality of a mailing list.
dave
On Thu, 1 Feb 2001 09:53:13 -0800, you wrote:
>Here are the results of the vote (with a pitiful turnout from committers, I might add)
>
>1. rename xerces-j-dev to xerces-j-users
>+1 : 4
>+0 :
>-0 :
>-1 :
>
>This Passes
>
>2. create a blank xerces-j-dev
>+1 : 3
>+0 :0
>-0 : 0
>-1 : 0
>
>This Passes
>
>3. create a xerces2-jdev
>+1 : 2
>+0 : 1
>-0 : 0
>-1 : 1
>
>This Passes.
>
>It seems clear that we are not quite ready for a xerces2-jdev. So here's what I propose to do:
>
>1. everybody subscribed to xerces-j-dev gets subscribed to xerces-j-user
>2. we get a clean xerces-j-dev which people can subscribe themselves to.
>3. we send a message to xerces-j-user explaining 1 & 2
>4. the people who want xerces-j-dev to stay clean ask people to use
>xerces-j-user for user questions, and possibly forward the message to
>xerces-j-user.
>
>
>
>I'll wait until tonight to send a request for mailing list creation in case anybody has concerns
>with the above paragraph. If people really want a xerces2-j-dev then we can take that up as
>a separate vote.
>
>Ted
Re: [Result] Mailing lists cleanup
Posted by David Rees <d....@usa.net>.
Cool. I like their setup for signups, but the search could be a little
better (I'm a picky one ;).
On Wed, 7 Feb 2001 10:33:00 +1030, you wrote:
>> I am still surprised that no one has put together a better commercial
>> or free generic list archive engine. But now I digress (further).
>
>http://www.mail-archive.com/ will archive just about anything you subscribe
>them to...
>
>Tom
>
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Re: [Result] Mailing lists cleanup
Posted by Tom Cook <tk...@subcorp.com.au>.
> I am still surprised that no one has put together a better commercial
> or free generic list archive engine. But now I digress (further).
http://www.mail-archive.com/ will archive just about anything you subscribe
them to...
Tom
Re: [Result] Mailing lists cleanup
Posted by David Rees <d....@usa.net>.
I actually didn't know about it either until it just showed up on the
jakarta.xml.org page recently. I was very pleased to see it because
(as far as I can see) it does a much better job than the others that
the Jakarta page lists and includes everything in xml.apache.org as
well (along with many of my other favorite lists). Geocrawler seems
ok, but the list organization is inconsistent and there is no way to
search the lists list. Also, they have yet to respond to any of my
suggestion emails or list addition emails.
The owner suggests just to send him an email for new lists (which I
assume includes changes). The email address is webguy@theaimsgroup.com
Note that his href adds the subject "Add a list to MARC" so you may
want to add that in case he filters somehow. Or you can just hit the
link at the bottom of the page at http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/
I am still surprised that no one has put together a better commercial
or free generic list archive engine. But now I digress (further).
dave
On Mon, 5 Feb 2001 21:37:01 -0800, you wrote:
>Dave,
>
>Well, now that you mention it, maybe we can do something about it
>
>The mail archive situation is somewhat confusing at the moment. There
>was a mail list archive in the works, but I haven't seen an announcement
>about it recently.
>
>Until you mentioned it, I didn't even know there was an archive a
>marc.theaimsgroup.com. If you know the maintainer of the archive, we
>may be able to get something done.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Ted
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "David Rees" <d....@usa.net>
>To: <xe...@xml.apache.org>
>Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2000 3:39 PM
>Subject: Re: [Result] Mailing lists cleanup
>
>
>Will these changes be propagated to the relevant mail archives?
>
>That said, I really don't have a handle on what the relevant mail
>archives are. Both the xml.apache.org and jakarta.apache.org pages
>have incorrect or dated links to mailing lists.
>
>Personally I just want to see marc.theaimsgroup.com updated because it
>seems to be only that is running, up to date, has its lists organized
>and supports message searching. While I am at it, I would like to see
>it mentioned on http://xml.apache.org/mail.html. IMHO, a good archive
>coupled with public knowledge that it is there can seriously increase
>the quality of a mailing list.
>
>dave
>
>
>On Thu, 1 Feb 2001 09:53:13 -0800, you wrote:
>
>>Here are the results of the vote (with a pitiful turnout from committers, I
>might add)
>>
>>1. rename xerces-j-dev to xerces-j-users
>>+1 : 4
>>+0 :
>>-0 :
>>-1 :
>>
>>This Passes
>>
>>2. create a blank xerces-j-dev
>>+1 : 3
>>+0 :0
>>-0 : 0
>>-1 : 0
>>
>>This Passes
>>
>>3. create a xerces2-jdev
>>+1 : 2
>>+0 : 1
>>-0 : 0
>>-1 : 1
>>
>>This Passes.
>>
>>It seems clear that we are not quite ready for a xerces2-jdev. So here's
>what I propose to do:
>>
>>1. everybody subscribed to xerces-j-dev gets subscribed to xerces-j-user
>>2. we get a clean xerces-j-dev which people can subscribe themselves to.
>>3. we send a message to xerces-j-user explaining 1 & 2
>>4. the people who want xerces-j-dev to stay clean ask people to use
>>xerces-j-user for user questions, and possibly forward the message to
>>xerces-j-user.
>>
>>
>>
>>I'll wait until tonight to send a request for mailing list creation in case
>anybody has concerns
>>with the above paragraph. If people really want a xerces2-j-dev then we
>can take that up as
>>a separate vote.
>>
>>Ted
>
>
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Re: [Result] Mailing lists cleanup
Posted by Ted Leung <tw...@sauria.com>.
Dave,
Well, now that you mention it, maybe we can do something about it
The mail archive situation is somewhat confusing at the moment. There
was a mail list archive in the works, but I haven't seen an announcement
about it recently.
Until you mentioned it, I didn't even know there was an archive a
marc.theaimsgroup.com. If you know the maintainer of the archive, we
may be able to get something done.
Thanks,
Ted
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Rees" <d....@usa.net>
To: <xe...@xml.apache.org>
Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2000 3:39 PM
Subject: Re: [Result] Mailing lists cleanup
Will these changes be propagated to the relevant mail archives?
That said, I really don't have a handle on what the relevant mail
archives are. Both the xml.apache.org and jakarta.apache.org pages
have incorrect or dated links to mailing lists.
Personally I just want to see marc.theaimsgroup.com updated because it
seems to be only that is running, up to date, has its lists organized
and supports message searching. While I am at it, I would like to see
it mentioned on http://xml.apache.org/mail.html. IMHO, a good archive
coupled with public knowledge that it is there can seriously increase
the quality of a mailing list.
dave
On Thu, 1 Feb 2001 09:53:13 -0800, you wrote:
>Here are the results of the vote (with a pitiful turnout from committers, I
might add)
>
>1. rename xerces-j-dev to xerces-j-users
>+1 : 4
>+0 :
>-0 :
>-1 :
>
>This Passes
>
>2. create a blank xerces-j-dev
>+1 : 3
>+0 :0
>-0 : 0
>-1 : 0
>
>This Passes
>
>3. create a xerces2-jdev
>+1 : 2
>+0 : 1
>-0 : 0
>-1 : 1
>
>This Passes.
>
>It seems clear that we are not quite ready for a xerces2-jdev. So here's
what I propose to do:
>
>1. everybody subscribed to xerces-j-dev gets subscribed to xerces-j-user
>2. we get a clean xerces-j-dev which people can subscribe themselves to.
>3. we send a message to xerces-j-user explaining 1 & 2
>4. the people who want xerces-j-dev to stay clean ask people to use
>xerces-j-user for user questions, and possibly forward the message to
>xerces-j-user.
>
>
>
>I'll wait until tonight to send a request for mailing list creation in case
anybody has concerns
>with the above paragraph. If people really want a xerces2-j-dev then we
can take that up as
>a separate vote.
>
>Ted
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