user list vs. automated messages

[Rafael Chaves <rc...@gmail.com>]

I know this has already been discussed in the past:

http://bit.ly/tpl3ny

but here goes another vote for a users list. If you guys fear
fragmentation, you could use the users list exclusively as a rule of thumb,
even for committer oriented subjects. What is the difference, you may ask?
For one, users of OSS projects are used to the split between dev and user
lists (it does not matter the users of Isis are developers themselves, that
is not what the -dev suffix means). But whatever you prefer to call the
main discussion list, the key point is that automatically generated
messages (JIRA, SVN, Jenkins activity) should really go to a separate list
(be it a
-dev list or what else Apache projects tend to use for that).

Just 2 cents from a newcomer. Cheers,

Rafael
http://abstratt.com/blog

Re: user list vs. automated messages

[Mohammad Nour El-Din <no...@gmail.com>]

Hi...

On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 10:07 AM, Dan Haywood
<da...@haywood-associates.co.uk>wrote:

> I don't have anything against doing this myself; indeed the fact that it's
> being requested is evidence that the community is slowly growing, which is
> good.
>
> Does anyone have strong feelings on this, either way?  If we don't get any
> strong -1s on this, I'm inclined to ask infra to set it up for us.
>

Not at all, at the beginning there was no heavy users traffic and hence the
users@ was of no *good* reason, but as Dan said that changed and hence we
can start proceeding to provide that.

Dan are you gonna start a [VOTE] :) ?


>
> Dan
>
>
> On 7 December 2011 08:03, Kevin Meyer - KMZ <ke...@kmz.co.za> wrote:
>
> > Hmm - so we now have +2 for an isis-users@iao [1]
> >
> >
> > On 6 Dec 2011 at 16:24, Rafael Chaves wrote:
> >
> > > I know this has already been discussed in the past:
> > >
> > > http://bit.ly/tpl3ny
> > >
> > > but here goes another vote for a users list. If you guys fear
> > > fragmentation, you could use the users list exclusively as a rule of
> > thumb,
> > > even for committer oriented subjects. What is the difference, you may
> > ask?
> > > For one, users of OSS projects are used to the split between dev and
> user
> > > lists (it does not matter the users of Isis are developers themselves,
> > that
> > > is not what the -dev suffix means). But whatever you prefer to call the
> > > main discussion list, the key point is that automatically generated
> > > messages (JIRA, SVN, Jenkins activity) should really go to a separate
> > list
> > > (be it a
> > > -dev list or what else Apache projects tend to use for that).
> > >
> > > Just 2 cents from a newcomer. Cheers,
> > >
> > > Rafael
> > > http://abstratt.com/blog
> >
> > [1]
> >
> >
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-isis-dev/201102.mbox/%3C588643.31396.qm@web27802.mail.ukl.yahoo.com%3E
> >
>



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- Mohammad Nour
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- Albert Einstein

Re: user list vs. automated messages

[Dan Haywood <da...@haywood-associates.co.uk>]

I don't have anything against doing this myself; indeed the fact that it's
being requested is evidence that the community is slowly growing, which is
good.

Does anyone have strong feelings on this, either way?  If we don't get any
strong -1s on this, I'm inclined to ask infra to set it up for us.

Dan


On 7 December 2011 08:03, Kevin Meyer - KMZ <ke...@kmz.co.za> wrote:

> Hmm - so we now have +2 for an isis-users@iao [1]
>
>
> On 6 Dec 2011 at 16:24, Rafael Chaves wrote:
>
> > I know this has already been discussed in the past:
> >
> > http://bit.ly/tpl3ny
> >
> > but here goes another vote for a users list. If you guys fear
> > fragmentation, you could use the users list exclusively as a rule of
> thumb,
> > even for committer oriented subjects. What is the difference, you may
> ask?
> > For one, users of OSS projects are used to the split between dev and user
> > lists (it does not matter the users of Isis are developers themselves,
> that
> > is not what the -dev suffix means). But whatever you prefer to call the
> > main discussion list, the key point is that automatically generated
> > messages (JIRA, SVN, Jenkins activity) should really go to a separate
> list
> > (be it a
> > -dev list or what else Apache projects tend to use for that).
> >
> > Just 2 cents from a newcomer. Cheers,
> >
> > Rafael
> > http://abstratt.com/blog
>
> [1]
>
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-isis-dev/201102.mbox/%3C588643.31396.qm@web27802.mail.ukl.yahoo.com%3E
>

Re: user list vs. automated messages

[Kevin Meyer - KMZ <ke...@kmz.co.za>]

Hmm - so we now have +2 for an isis-users@iao [1]


On 6 Dec 2011 at 16:24, Rafael Chaves wrote:

> I know this has already been discussed in the past:
> 
> http://bit.ly/tpl3ny
> 
> but here goes another vote for a users list. If you guys fear
> fragmentation, you could use the users list exclusively as a rule of thumb,
> even for committer oriented subjects. What is the difference, you may ask?
> For one, users of OSS projects are used to the split between dev and user
> lists (it does not matter the users of Isis are developers themselves, that
> is not what the -dev suffix means). But whatever you prefer to call the
> main discussion list, the key point is that automatically generated
> messages (JIRA, SVN, Jenkins activity) should really go to a separate list
> (be it a
> -dev list or what else Apache projects tend to use for that).
> 
> Just 2 cents from a newcomer. Cheers,
> 
> Rafael
> http://abstratt.com/blog

[1]
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-isis-dev/201102.mbox/%3C588643.31396.qm@web27802.mail.ukl.yahoo.com%3E