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Mailet subproject
Hi, does it exists a sort of jamesMailet subproject? If yes, could you
please provide coordinates? If not, would you like to open one with me on
SourceForge? This way, we shouldn't follow deadlines or timetables, but
everyone could develop good ideas and then we could submit these ideas to
this list.
WFYI (Waiting For Your Impressions),
Marco
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Re: Mailet subproject
Posted by Marco Tedone <mt...@jemos.org>.
Thank you Serge, that's is interesting.
Marco
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From: "Serge Knystautas" <se...@lokitech.com>
To: "James Users List" <ja...@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2003 10:21 PM
Subject: Re: Mailet subproject
> Marco Tedone wrote:
> > Hi, does it exists a sort of jamesMailet subproject? If yes, could you
> > please provide coordinates? If not, would you like to open one with me
on
> > SourceForge? This way, we shouldn't follow deadlines or timetables, but
> > everyone could develop good ideas and then we could submit these ideas
to
> > this list.
>
> There is a general desire by the PMC to create a mailet subproject (no
> time-table on this yet), and in the meantime one of the PMC members
> (Danny Angus) has setup www.mailet.org. He and someone else is helping
> to organize that and take contributions.
>
> --
> Serge Knystautas
> President
> Lokitech >> software . strategy . design >> http://www.lokitech.com
> p. 301.656.5501
> e. sergek@lokitech.com
>
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RE: Creating/Adding/Changing User (Password)
Posted by "Noel J. Bergman" <no...@devtech.com>.
> how do I use the cvs? I don't have one?
See: http://www.apache.org/dev/contributors.html
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Re: Creating/Adding/Changing User (Password)
Posted by joni santoso <st...@plasa.com>.
On Fri, 9 May 2003 00:01:50 -0400
"Noel J. Bergman" <no...@devtech.com> wrote:
>> Where can I download this RMI RemoteManager?
>
>>>From the CVS (see:
>>http://jakarta.apache.org/site/cvsindex.html)
>
Sorry, if this question is stupid but how do I use the
cvs? I don't have one? I click the jakarta-james it goes
to http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs/jakarta-james/ then i
click the src it goes to
http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs/jakarta-james/src/.
What should I do? If I do have to install a cvs what cvs I
should download?
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RE: Creating/Adding/Changing User (Password)
Posted by "Noel J. Bergman" <no...@devtech.com>.
> Where can I download this RMI RemoteManager?
>From the CVS (see: http://jakarta.apache.org/site/cvsindex.html)
> How to configure?
Read the docs.
> Please give me specific link.
http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/jakarta-james/proposals/rmi-remotemanager/
. But that isn't particularly useful. You need to learn to use the CVS.
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Re: Creating/Adding/Changing User (Password)
Posted by joni santoso <st...@plasa.com>.
Where can I download this RMI RemoteManager? How to
configure? I went to the download site, but I don't know
which one to download.
Please give me specific link.
Regards,
>
>In any event, for what you want to do, I repeat my
>suggestion that you
>review the RMI RemoteManager.
>
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RE: Creating/Adding/Changing User (Password)
Posted by "Noel J. Bergman" <no...@devtech.com>.
> > James is made up of components that run in a container
> > architecture, similar to how web apps run inside of a
> > Servlet container.
> Do you mean that I have to create something like mailet
> and configure it in environment.xml?
No. Mailets aren't configured in environment.xml. Mailets are in
config.xml.
In any event, for what you want to do, I repeat my suggestion that you
review the RMI RemoteManager.
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Re: Creating/Adding/Changing User (Password)
Posted by joni santoso <st...@plasa.com>.
On Thu, 8 May 2003 02:20:49 -0400
"Noel J. Bergman" <no...@devtech.com> wrote:
>> >Your code isn't running within an Avalon container.
>
>> What do you mean? Sorry, I don't know about Avalon I
>>just
>> add whatever jars it needs to compile.
>
>James is made up of components that run in a container
>architecture, similar
>to how web apps run inside of a Servlet container. You
>cannot just execute
>the classes outside of the proper environment.
Do you mean that I have to create something like mailet
and configure it in environment.xml?
>
>> > Please look at proposals/rmi-remotemanager for an
>>alternative
>> > approach that allows you to run code external to
>>Avalon.
>
>> Where can I get the proposal/rmi-remotemanager? I went
>>to
>> the site and read the javadocs but couldn't find it. Is
>>it
>> available along James?
>
>It is in the CVS, and out to be in the source
>distribution. It is not part
>of the standard binary distribution.
>
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RE: Creating/Adding/Changing User (Password)
Posted by "Noel J. Bergman" <no...@devtech.com>.
> >Your code isn't running within an Avalon container.
> What do you mean? Sorry, I don't know about Avalon I just
> add whatever jars it needs to compile.
James is made up of components that run in a container architecture, similar
to how web apps run inside of a Servlet container. You cannot just execute
the classes outside of the proper environment.
> > Please look at proposals/rmi-remotemanager for an alternative
> > approach that allows you to run code external to Avalon.
> Where can I get the proposal/rmi-remotemanager? I went to
> the site and read the javadocs but couldn't find it. Is it
> available along James?
It is in the CVS, and out to be in the source distribution. It is not part
of the standard binary distribution.
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Re: Creating/Adding/Changing User (Password)
Posted by joni santoso <st...@plasa.com>.
>Your code isn't running within an Avalon container.
> Please look at
>proposals/rmi-remotemanager for an alternative approach
>that allows you to
>run code external to Avalon.
>
What do you mean? Sorry, I don't know about Avalon I just
add whatever jars it needs to compile.
Where can I get the proposal/rmi-remotemanager? I went to
the site and read the javadocs but couldn't find it. Is it
available along James?
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RE: Creating/Adding/Changing User (Password)
Posted by "Noel J. Bergman" <no...@devtech.com>.
> I wonder why every time I run the codes it keeps producing
> error like this :
Your code isn't running within an Avalon container. Please look at
proposals/rmi-remotemanager for an alternative approach that allows you to
run code external to Avalon.
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Creating/Adding/Changing User (Password)
Posted by joni santoso <st...@plasa.com>.
Hi,
I read some postings on the archive about adding users but
I still couldn't find some snippets.
So I tried coding by myself.
I wonder why every time I run the codes it keeps producing
error like this :
C:\>java test
test
Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NullPointerException
at
org.apache.james.mailrepository.AvalonMailRepository.list(AvalonMailR
epository.java:385)
at test.main(test.java:25)
I use win2k advanced server and james 2.1.2.
if anyone can share his/her codes about adding/changing
users, I would be very thankful.
here the codes :
import org.apache.james.*;
import org.apache.mailet.*;
import org.apache.james.userrepository.*;
import org.apache.james.remotemanager.*;
import org.apache.james.mailrepository.*;
import java.util.Iterator;
public class test {
public static void main(String[] args) {
System.out.println("test");
/*try {
RemoteManager rm = new RemoteManager() ;
rm.initialize();
UsersFileRepository ufr = new UsersFileRepository();
Iterator i = ufr.list();
while (i.hasNext()) {
System.out.println(i.next());
}
System.out.println("done");
} catch (Exception e) {
System.out.println("Error : " + e);
}
*/
AvalonMailRepository amr = new AvalonMailRepository();
Iterator i = amr.list();
while (i.hasNext()) {
System.out.println(i.next());
}
System.out.println("done");
}
}
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Re: Mailet subproject
Posted by Serge Knystautas <se...@lokitech.com>.
Marco Tedone wrote:
> Hi, does it exists a sort of jamesMailet subproject? If yes, could you
> please provide coordinates? If not, would you like to open one with me on
> SourceForge? This way, we shouldn't follow deadlines or timetables, but
> everyone could develop good ideas and then we could submit these ideas to
> this list.
There is a general desire by the PMC to create a mailet subproject (no
time-table on this yet), and in the meantime one of the PMC members
(Danny Angus) has setup www.mailet.org. He and someone else is helping
to organize that and take contributions.
--
Serge Knystautas
President
Lokitech >> software . strategy . design >> http://www.lokitech.com
p. 301.656.5501
e. sergek@lokitech.com
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Re: [OT] Re: Mailet subproject
Posted by Micael <ca...@harbornet.com>.
Bingo! Thank you, Marco. This is what I needed. This, in my opinion,
would be a better opening page. The "news" on the actual opening page, for
my tastes, would be better relegated to secondary status. This is
sufficient to get me going without having to "sell my first born". Micael
At 09:05 PM 5/8/03 +0100, you wrote:
>Micael, I didn't reply before because it seemed to me obvious, but I think
>that came at this point, my contribution could be useful. Please have a look
>from the james home site to james documentation. The last two links explain
>(roughly) what Matchers and Mailets are, their lifecycle and how to deploy
>them on james.
>
>Here follows the link:
>
>http://james.apache.org/documentation_2_1.html
>
>Hope it will help,
>
>Marco
>
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>To: "James Users List" <ja...@jakarta.apache.org>
>Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2003 7:51 PM
>Subject: Re: [OT] Re: Mailet subproject
>
>
> > Serge, thanks, and ......
> >
> > Ah, those descriptions! LOL. I looked at the latter email first, because
> > it came first. I would not have thought to look for the Mailet definition
> > in the design description. Let me comment a bit on the descriptions, and
> > maybe that will provide something helpful to you while I get some helpful
> > information.
> >
> > Here is the opening wording:
> >
> > The Java Apache Mail Enterprise Server (a.k.a. Apache James) is a 100%
>pure
> > Java SMTP and POP3 Mail server and NNTP News server designed to be a
> > complete and portable enterprise mail engine solution based on currently
> > available open protocols.
> >
> > James is also a mail application platform.
> > The James project hosts the Apache Mailet API, and James provides an
> > implementation of this mail application platform API.
> >
> > James is based upon the Apache Avalon application framework. (For more
> > information about Avalon, please go to
> > <http://avalon.apache.org/>http://avalon.apache.org/)
> >
> > James requires Java 2 (either JRE 1.3 or 1.4 as of 2.0a3).
> >
> > This tells us that there is some API called the Mailet on Apache, which
> > sounds like "Applet", "Doclet", "Servlet" and even, now, "Portlet". So,
> > one begins to think of a transport application. I don't know if that is
> > right or not. The "Design Objectives" section description (which is not
> > the right place to put this definition, in my opinion), says: "A Mailet is
> > a discrete piece of mail-processing logic which is incorporated into a
> > Mailet-compliant mail-server's processing." From the perspective of a
> > newbie like myself, I know that I have email processing code on my
> > application and I know how to do that with JNDI or regular servlet based
> > technology using CLASSPATH, and similar devices. I know I have to access
>a
> > server to use the mail.jar JavaMail API classes. Where Mailet fits in
>this
> > from this description is completely dark to me.
> >
> > I have to guess. I know that James implements Mailet, whatever it
> > is. Then I go to your description in the design area (wrong area, again,
> > in my opinion, to have this info).
> >
> > The opening sentence is: "A Mailet is a discrete piece of mail-processing
> > logic which is incorporated into a Mailet-compliant mail-server's
> > processing." This says nothing, really. Does it? If something is
> > Mailet-compliant, then it has a "discrete piece of mail-processing logic"
> > called a "Mailet" incorporated into it. Mailets are in Mailet-compliant
> > mail servers. Okay, but what are they? The most I get here is that
> > Mailets are a "piece" of mail-processing logic. What this means is not
> > clear. I don't know if this means processing the mail at a low or high
> > level. It simply is too general to mean anything without knowing already
> > what it means. It does not inform. Really, it doesn't. I want to know,
> > badly. And, after close reading, I know nothing more. Then the
> > description says: "This easy-to-write, easy-to-use pattern allows
> > developers to build powerful customized mail systems." I am not sure what
> > the "pattern" is suppose to be. Whatever it is I can both "write" and
> > "use" it. And, how this relates to the "mail-processing logic" is not
> > clear. Again, is this "pattern" low level, e.g. Socket based, or what?
>If
> > you don't already know, this leaves all those issues open. Mailets sound
> > cool, whatever they are. And, I would really like to know. I just don't
> > want to have to spend the day finding out, or even the week. Next, the
> > description says: "Examples of the services a Mailet might provide
>include:
> > a mail-to-fax or mail-to-phone transformer, a filter, a language
> > translator, a mailing list manager, etc. Several Mailets are included in
> > the JAMES distribution (see documentation)." Now I know that a Mailet is
>a
> > "service provider" of some sort. The examples given are so different that
> > I still cannot get a hold on what a Mailet is. I sort of revert back in
>my
> > mind to where I started, viz. that a Mailet must be like a Servlet, simply
> > because the name is "Mailet". I don't know if James is the one to use
> > Mailet, or I am the one to use Mailet. Looks at first blush like James is
> > the user of Mailets and they are not intended to help me, except
> > indirectly, if I just want to use James. But, that is not like Servlets
>at
> > all. That is more like the data binding used to configure Tomcat, for
> > example. What a Mailet is still eludes me. I am not trying to be dark
> > here. I will eventually find out what they are, but I still have no real
> > idea, other than that they can be implemented to assist a mail server. I
> > don't know if this interfaces with a mail service using a mail server or
>not.
> >
> > Is that fair? I am trying to be fair and to be honest about the
>difficulties.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Micael
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > At 01:18 PM 5/8/03 -0400, you wrote:
> > >Micael wrote:
> > >>I am a newbie to this technology. What is the difference between a
> > >>Mailet and James? That is probably not even a sensical question. Can
> > >>someone offer a basic overview? One of the difficulties of getting
> > >>started is that experienced people do not remember the basic things they
> > >>learned are not known. I have looked in James and got too lost to keep
> > >>going. That is not because I lack intelligence or effort, and not
> > >>because you people are not helpful. There simply are no good overview
> > >>documents on email stuff that I can find. It is too bad. I would like
> > >>to contribute and be involved, but I don't have the time to spend weeks
> > >>on what should take at most hours. If you can help, it would be
> > >>appreciated. Thanks,
> > >
> > >On the home page we have a description of James and Mailets as follows:
> > >
> > >In the "What is it" section, we have this for James:
> > >"The Java Apache Mail Enterprise Server (a.k.a. Apache James) is a 100%
> > >pure Java SMTP and POP3 Mail server and NNTP News server designed to be a
> > >complete and portable enterprise mail engine solution based on currently
> > >available open protocols."
> > >
> > >In the "Design Objectives" section, we have this for mailets:
> > >"*Mailet support* - Apache James supports the Apache Mailet API. A Mailet
> > >is a discrete piece of mail-processing logic which is incorporated into a
> > >Mailet-compliant mail-server's processing. This easy-to-write,
>easy-to-use
> > >pattern allows developers to build powerful customized mail systems.
> > >Examples of the services a Mailet might provide include: a mail-to-fax or
> > >mail-to-phone transformer, a filter, a language translator, a mailing
>list
> > >manager, etc. Several Mailets are included in the JAMES distribution (see
> > >documentation)."
> > >
> > >Please let us know how you think this description could be included.
> > >
> > >--
> > >Serge Knystautas
> > >President
> > >Lokitech >> software . strategy . design >> http://www.lokitech.com
> > >p. 301.656.5501
> > >e. sergek@lokitech.com
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Re: [OT] Re: Mailet subproject
Posted by Marco Tedone <mt...@jemos.org>.
Micael, I didn't reply before because it seemed to me obvious, but I think
that came at this point, my contribution could be useful. Please have a look
from the james home site to james documentation. The last two links explain
(roughly) what Matchers and Mailets are, their lifecycle and how to deploy
them on james.
Here follows the link:
http://james.apache.org/documentation_2_1.html
Hope it will help,
Marco
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From: "Micael" <ca...@harbornet.com>
To: "James Users List" <ja...@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2003 7:51 PM
Subject: Re: [OT] Re: Mailet subproject
> Serge, thanks, and ......
>
> Ah, those descriptions! LOL. I looked at the latter email first, because
> it came first. I would not have thought to look for the Mailet definition
> in the design description. Let me comment a bit on the descriptions, and
> maybe that will provide something helpful to you while I get some helpful
> information.
>
> Here is the opening wording:
>
> The Java Apache Mail Enterprise Server (a.k.a. Apache James) is a 100%
pure
> Java SMTP and POP3 Mail server and NNTP News server designed to be a
> complete and portable enterprise mail engine solution based on currently
> available open protocols.
>
> James is also a mail application platform.
> The James project hosts the Apache Mailet API, and James provides an
> implementation of this mail application platform API.
>
> James is based upon the Apache Avalon application framework. (For more
> information about Avalon, please go to
> <http://avalon.apache.org/>http://avalon.apache.org/)
>
> James requires Java 2 (either JRE 1.3 or 1.4 as of 2.0a3).
>
> This tells us that there is some API called the Mailet on Apache, which
> sounds like "Applet", "Doclet", "Servlet" and even, now, "Portlet". So,
> one begins to think of a transport application. I don't know if that is
> right or not. The "Design Objectives" section description (which is not
> the right place to put this definition, in my opinion), says: "A Mailet is
> a discrete piece of mail-processing logic which is incorporated into a
> Mailet-compliant mail-server's processing." From the perspective of a
> newbie like myself, I know that I have email processing code on my
> application and I know how to do that with JNDI or regular servlet based
> technology using CLASSPATH, and similar devices. I know I have to access
a
> server to use the mail.jar JavaMail API classes. Where Mailet fits in
this
> from this description is completely dark to me.
>
> I have to guess. I know that James implements Mailet, whatever it
> is. Then I go to your description in the design area (wrong area, again,
> in my opinion, to have this info).
>
> The opening sentence is: "A Mailet is a discrete piece of mail-processing
> logic which is incorporated into a Mailet-compliant mail-server's
> processing." This says nothing, really. Does it? If something is
> Mailet-compliant, then it has a "discrete piece of mail-processing logic"
> called a "Mailet" incorporated into it. Mailets are in Mailet-compliant
> mail servers. Okay, but what are they? The most I get here is that
> Mailets are a "piece" of mail-processing logic. What this means is not
> clear. I don't know if this means processing the mail at a low or high
> level. It simply is too general to mean anything without knowing already
> what it means. It does not inform. Really, it doesn't. I want to know,
> badly. And, after close reading, I know nothing more. Then the
> description says: "This easy-to-write, easy-to-use pattern allows
> developers to build powerful customized mail systems." I am not sure what
> the "pattern" is suppose to be. Whatever it is I can both "write" and
> "use" it. And, how this relates to the "mail-processing logic" is not
> clear. Again, is this "pattern" low level, e.g. Socket based, or what?
If
> you don't already know, this leaves all those issues open. Mailets sound
> cool, whatever they are. And, I would really like to know. I just don't
> want to have to spend the day finding out, or even the week. Next, the
> description says: "Examples of the services a Mailet might provide
include:
> a mail-to-fax or mail-to-phone transformer, a filter, a language
> translator, a mailing list manager, etc. Several Mailets are included in
> the JAMES distribution (see documentation)." Now I know that a Mailet is
a
> "service provider" of some sort. The examples given are so different that
> I still cannot get a hold on what a Mailet is. I sort of revert back in
my
> mind to where I started, viz. that a Mailet must be like a Servlet, simply
> because the name is "Mailet". I don't know if James is the one to use
> Mailet, or I am the one to use Mailet. Looks at first blush like James is
> the user of Mailets and they are not intended to help me, except
> indirectly, if I just want to use James. But, that is not like Servlets
at
> all. That is more like the data binding used to configure Tomcat, for
> example. What a Mailet is still eludes me. I am not trying to be dark
> here. I will eventually find out what they are, but I still have no real
> idea, other than that they can be implemented to assist a mail server. I
> don't know if this interfaces with a mail service using a mail server or
not.
>
> Is that fair? I am trying to be fair and to be honest about the
difficulties.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Micael
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> At 01:18 PM 5/8/03 -0400, you wrote:
> >Micael wrote:
> >>I am a newbie to this technology. What is the difference between a
> >>Mailet and James? That is probably not even a sensical question. Can
> >>someone offer a basic overview? One of the difficulties of getting
> >>started is that experienced people do not remember the basic things they
> >>learned are not known. I have looked in James and got too lost to keep
> >>going. That is not because I lack intelligence or effort, and not
> >>because you people are not helpful. There simply are no good overview
> >>documents on email stuff that I can find. It is too bad. I would like
> >>to contribute and be involved, but I don't have the time to spend weeks
> >>on what should take at most hours. If you can help, it would be
> >>appreciated. Thanks,
> >
> >On the home page we have a description of James and Mailets as follows:
> >
> >In the "What is it" section, we have this for James:
> >"The Java Apache Mail Enterprise Server (a.k.a. Apache James) is a 100%
> >pure Java SMTP and POP3 Mail server and NNTP News server designed to be a
> >complete and portable enterprise mail engine solution based on currently
> >available open protocols."
> >
> >In the "Design Objectives" section, we have this for mailets:
> >"*Mailet support* - Apache James supports the Apache Mailet API. A Mailet
> >is a discrete piece of mail-processing logic which is incorporated into a
> >Mailet-compliant mail-server's processing. This easy-to-write,
easy-to-use
> >pattern allows developers to build powerful customized mail systems.
> >Examples of the services a Mailet might provide include: a mail-to-fax or
> >mail-to-phone transformer, a filter, a language translator, a mailing
list
> >manager, etc. Several Mailets are included in the JAMES distribution (see
> >documentation)."
> >
> >Please let us know how you think this description could be included.
> >
> >--
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Re: [OT] Re: Mailet subproject
Posted by Micael <ca...@harbornet.com>.
Serge, thanks, and ......
Ah, those descriptions! LOL. I looked at the latter email first, because
it came first. I would not have thought to look for the Mailet definition
in the design description. Let me comment a bit on the descriptions, and
maybe that will provide something helpful to you while I get some helpful
information.
Here is the opening wording:
The Java Apache Mail Enterprise Server (a.k.a. Apache James) is a 100% pure
Java SMTP and POP3 Mail server and NNTP News server designed to be a
complete and portable enterprise mail engine solution based on currently
available open protocols.
James is also a mail application platform.
The James project hosts the Apache Mailet API, and James provides an
implementation of this mail application platform API.
James is based upon the Apache Avalon application framework. (For more
information about Avalon, please go to
<http://avalon.apache.org/>http://avalon.apache.org/)
James requires Java 2 (either JRE 1.3 or 1.4 as of 2.0a3).
This tells us that there is some API called the Mailet on Apache, which
sounds like "Applet", "Doclet", "Servlet" and even, now, "Portlet". So,
one begins to think of a transport application. I don't know if that is
right or not. The "Design Objectives" section description (which is not
the right place to put this definition, in my opinion), says: "A Mailet is
a discrete piece of mail-processing logic which is incorporated into a
Mailet-compliant mail-server's processing." From the perspective of a
newbie like myself, I know that I have email processing code on my
application and I know how to do that with JNDI or regular servlet based
technology using CLASSPATH, and similar devices. I know I have to access a
server to use the mail.jar JavaMail API classes. Where Mailet fits in this
from this description is completely dark to me.
I have to guess. I know that James implements Mailet, whatever it
is. Then I go to your description in the design area (wrong area, again,
in my opinion, to have this info).
The opening sentence is: "A Mailet is a discrete piece of mail-processing
logic which is incorporated into a Mailet-compliant mail-server's
processing." This says nothing, really. Does it? If something is
Mailet-compliant, then it has a "discrete piece of mail-processing logic"
called a "Mailet" incorporated into it. Mailets are in Mailet-compliant
mail servers. Okay, but what are they? The most I get here is that
Mailets are a "piece" of mail-processing logic. What this means is not
clear. I don't know if this means processing the mail at a low or high
level. It simply is too general to mean anything without knowing already
what it means. It does not inform. Really, it doesn't. I want to know,
badly. And, after close reading, I know nothing more. Then the
description says: "This easy-to-write, easy-to-use pattern allows
developers to build powerful customized mail systems." I am not sure what
the "pattern" is suppose to be. Whatever it is I can both "write" and
"use" it. And, how this relates to the "mail-processing logic" is not
clear. Again, is this "pattern" low level, e.g. Socket based, or what? If
you don't already know, this leaves all those issues open. Mailets sound
cool, whatever they are. And, I would really like to know. I just don't
want to have to spend the day finding out, or even the week. Next, the
description says: "Examples of the services a Mailet might provide include:
a mail-to-fax or mail-to-phone transformer, a filter, a language
translator, a mailing list manager, etc. Several Mailets are included in
the JAMES distribution (see documentation)." Now I know that a Mailet is a
"service provider" of some sort. The examples given are so different that
I still cannot get a hold on what a Mailet is. I sort of revert back in my
mind to where I started, viz. that a Mailet must be like a Servlet, simply
because the name is "Mailet". I don't know if James is the one to use
Mailet, or I am the one to use Mailet. Looks at first blush like James is
the user of Mailets and they are not intended to help me, except
indirectly, if I just want to use James. But, that is not like Servlets at
all. That is more like the data binding used to configure Tomcat, for
example. What a Mailet is still eludes me. I am not trying to be dark
here. I will eventually find out what they are, but I still have no real
idea, other than that they can be implemented to assist a mail server. I
don't know if this interfaces with a mail service using a mail server or not.
Is that fair? I am trying to be fair and to be honest about the difficulties.
Thanks,
Micael
At 01:18 PM 5/8/03 -0400, you wrote:
>Micael wrote:
>>I am a newbie to this technology. What is the difference between a
>>Mailet and James? That is probably not even a sensical question. Can
>>someone offer a basic overview? One of the difficulties of getting
>>started is that experienced people do not remember the basic things they
>>learned are not known. I have looked in James and got too lost to keep
>>going. That is not because I lack intelligence or effort, and not
>>because you people are not helpful. There simply are no good overview
>>documents on email stuff that I can find. It is too bad. I would like
>>to contribute and be involved, but I don't have the time to spend weeks
>>on what should take at most hours. If you can help, it would be
>>appreciated. Thanks,
>
>On the home page we have a description of James and Mailets as follows:
>
>In the "What is it" section, we have this for James:
>"The Java Apache Mail Enterprise Server (a.k.a. Apache James) is a 100%
>pure Java SMTP and POP3 Mail server and NNTP News server designed to be a
>complete and portable enterprise mail engine solution based on currently
>available open protocols."
>
>In the "Design Objectives" section, we have this for mailets:
>"*Mailet support* - Apache James supports the Apache Mailet API. A Mailet
>is a discrete piece of mail-processing logic which is incorporated into a
>Mailet-compliant mail-server's processing. This easy-to-write, easy-to-use
>pattern allows developers to build powerful customized mail systems.
>Examples of the services a Mailet might provide include: a mail-to-fax or
>mail-to-phone transformer, a filter, a language translator, a mailing list
>manager, etc. Several Mailets are included in the JAMES distribution (see
>documentation)."
>
>Please let us know how you think this description could be included.
>
>--
>Serge Knystautas
>President
>Lokitech >> software . strategy . design >> http://www.lokitech.com
>p. 301.656.5501
>e. sergek@lokitech.com
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Re: [OT] Re: Mailet subproject
Posted by Serge Knystautas <se...@lokitech.com>.
Micael wrote:
> What "description" are you referring to? I would be happy to look at it
> and comment, if you identified it. Thanks.
Micael,
Read the emails, please. You replied to my email that was correcting a
typo in the big email with the descriptions I had sent 2 minutes prior.
Once more, that email just copies and pastes the descriptions on the
home page of the website.
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Re: [OT] Re: Mailet subproject
Posted by Micael <ca...@harbornet.com>.
Serge,
What "description" are you referring to? I would be happy to look at it
and comment, if you identified it. Thanks.
Micael
At 01:20 PM 5/8/03 -0400, you wrote:
>Serge Knystautas wrote:
>>Please let us know how you think this description could be included.
>
>I mean "...could be *improved*."
>
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Re: [OT] Re: Mailet subproject
Posted by Serge Knystautas <se...@lokitech.com>.
Serge Knystautas wrote:
> Please let us know how you think this description could be included.
I mean "...could be *improved*."
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Re: [OT] Re: Mailet subproject
Posted by Serge Knystautas <se...@lokitech.com>.
Micael wrote:
> I am a newbie to this technology. What is the difference between a
> Mailet and James? That is probably not even a sensical question. Can
> someone offer a basic overview? One of the difficulties of getting
> started is that experienced people do not remember the basic things they
> learned are not known. I have looked in James and got too lost to keep
> going. That is not because I lack intelligence or effort, and not
> because you people are not helpful. There simply are no good overview
> documents on email stuff that I can find. It is too bad. I would like
> to contribute and be involved, but I don't have the time to spend weeks
> on what should take at most hours. If you can help, it would be
> appreciated. Thanks,
On the home page we have a description of James and Mailets as follows:
In the "What is it" section, we have this for James:
"The Java Apache Mail Enterprise Server (a.k.a. Apache James) is a 100%
pure Java SMTP and POP3 Mail server and NNTP News server designed to be
a complete and portable enterprise mail engine solution based on
currently available open protocols."
In the "Design Objectives" section, we have this for mailets:
"*Mailet support* - Apache James supports the Apache Mailet API. A
Mailet is a discrete piece of mail-processing logic which is
incorporated into a Mailet-compliant mail-server's processing. This
easy-to-write, easy-to-use pattern allows developers to build powerful
customized mail systems. Examples of the services a Mailet might provide
include: a mail-to-fax or mail-to-phone transformer, a filter, a
language translator, a mailing list manager, etc. Several Mailets are
included in the JAMES distribution (see documentation)."
Please let us know how you think this description could be included.
--
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[OT] Re: Mailet subproject
Posted by Micael <ca...@harbornet.com>.
I am a newbie to this technology. What is the difference between a Mailet
and James? That is probably not even a sensical question. Can someone
offer a basic overview? One of the difficulties of getting started is that
experienced people do not remember the basic things they learned are not
known. I have looked in James and got too lost to keep going. That is not
because I lack intelligence or effort, and not because you people are not
helpful. There simply are no good overview documents on email stuff that I
can find. It is too bad. I would like to contribute and be involved, but
I don't have the time to spend weeks on what should take at most hours. If
you can help, it would be appreciated. Thanks,
Micael
At 10:24 PM 5/7/03 -0400, you wrote:
>Noel J. Bergman wrote:
>>>Hi, does it exists a sort of jamesMailet subproject?
>>I've been trying to promote one. I've asked that people interested in it
>>please speak up. The James Project Management Committee is amenable to the
>>creation of a Mailet sub-project. We want to know that there is sufficient
>>interest.
>
>I think one detractor to this though is that everything in this mailet
>sub-project would have to be ASF licensed as well as address license
>compabilibility with 3rd party libraries. A listing service would not
>have such restrictions and could promote commercial ones (should some emerge).
>
>>In the meantime, Danny has mailets.org.
>
>Err, mailet.org (not mailets.org).
>
>
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RE: Mailet subproject
Posted by Danny Angus <da...@apache.org>.
Hi,
> For non-ASL compatible mailets, mailet.org could
> setup a CVS,
Vincenzo and I would encourage people who want to have open source Mailet projects to create projects on sourceforge.net and have them listed and promoted @ mailet.org
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RE: Mailet subproject
Posted by "Noel J. Bergman" <no...@devtech.com>.
>>> Hi, does it exists a sort of jamesMailet subproject?
>> I've been trying to promote one. I've asked that people interested in it
>> please speak up. The James Project Management Committee is amenable to
the
>> creation of a Mailet sub-project. We want to know that there is
sufficient
>> interest.
> I think one detractor to this though is that everything in this mailet
> sub-project would have to be ASF licensed as well as address license
> compabilibility with 3rd party libraries.
True enough. For non-ASL compatible mailets, mailet.org could setup a CVS,
or there could be a sister site on Tigris.
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Re: Mailet subproject
Posted by Serge Knystautas <se...@lokitech.com>.
Noel J. Bergman wrote:
>>Hi, does it exists a sort of jamesMailet subproject?
>
> I've been trying to promote one. I've asked that people interested in it
> please speak up. The James Project Management Committee is amenable to the
> creation of a Mailet sub-project. We want to know that there is sufficient
> interest.
I think one detractor to this though is that everything in this mailet
sub-project would have to be ASF licensed as well as address license
compabilibility with 3rd party libraries. A listing service would not
have such restrictions and could promote commercial ones (should some
emerge).
> In the meantime, Danny has mailets.org.
Err, mailet.org (not mailets.org).
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Re: Mailet subproject
Posted by Marco Tedone <mt...@jemos.org>.
I would like simply to write some handful code for james and to share it
with the community, in the optic of the open source software.
Marco
----- Original Message -----
From: "Noel J. Bergman" <no...@devtech.com>
To: "James Users List" <ja...@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2003 10:53 PM
Subject: RE: Mailet subproject
> Marco,
>
> The Mailets sub-project would focus on the Mailet Specification as a
> portable interface, not just for James, and on portable matcher and mailet
> classes. Is that what you have in mind? Regardless, if you have existing
> matchers and/or mailets that you feel are of interest, you can either
> contribute them to the James Project, or you can submit them to
mailets.org.
>
> --- Noel
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Marco Tedone [mailto:mtedone@jemos.org]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2003 17:39
> To: James Users List
> Subject: Re: Mailet subproject
>
>
> Noel, I've being just writing Danny now, and I'll wait for his response.
> Should Mailet.org be the wrong place where to promote 'Little Components'
> ideas, I'll open a project on SourceForge. Little Components...Web
> Services...Some ideas are coming to my mind.
>
> Marco
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Noel J. Bergman" <no...@devtech.com>
> To: "James Users List" <ja...@jakarta.apache.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2003 10:33 PM
> Subject: RE: Mailet subproject
>
>
> > Marco,
> >
> > > Hi, does it exists a sort of jamesMailet subproject?
> >
> > I've been trying to promote one. I've asked that people interested in
it
> > please speak up. The James Project Management Committee is amenable to
> the
> > creation of a Mailet sub-project. We want to know that there is
> sufficient
> > interest.
> >
> > With respect to CVS Commit privileges, those come with some time.
> >
> > In the meantime, Danny has mailets.org.
> >
> > --- Noel
> >
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RE: Mailet subproject
Posted by "Noel J. Bergman" <no...@devtech.com>.
Marco,
The Mailets sub-project would focus on the Mailet Specification as a
portable interface, not just for James, and on portable matcher and mailet
classes. Is that what you have in mind? Regardless, if you have existing
matchers and/or mailets that you feel are of interest, you can either
contribute them to the James Project, or you can submit them to mailets.org.
--- Noel
-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2003 17:39
To: James Users List
Subject: Re: Mailet subproject
Noel, I've being just writing Danny now, and I'll wait for his response.
Should Mailet.org be the wrong place where to promote 'Little Components'
ideas, I'll open a project on SourceForge. Little Components...Web
Services...Some ideas are coming to my mind.
Marco
----- Original Message -----
From: "Noel J. Bergman" <no...@devtech.com>
To: "James Users List" <ja...@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2003 10:33 PM
Subject: RE: Mailet subproject
> Marco,
>
> > Hi, does it exists a sort of jamesMailet subproject?
>
> I've been trying to promote one. I've asked that people interested in it
> please speak up. The James Project Management Committee is amenable to
the
> creation of a Mailet sub-project. We want to know that there is
sufficient
> interest.
>
> With respect to CVS Commit privileges, those come with some time.
>
> In the meantime, Danny has mailets.org.
>
> --- Noel
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RE: Mailet subproject
Posted by Danny Angus <da...@apache.org>.
Marco,
Mailet.org is exactly the place to promote mailets you have written, but you might also want to start a sourceforge project to develop them as Mailet.org is intended to be a listing/review service and (possibly) include helpful articles about mailets, how to write and use them.
Any contributions are welcome from everybody.
d.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Marco Tedone [mailto:mtedone@jemos.org]
> Sent: 07 May 2003 22:39
> To: James Users List
> Subject: Re: Mailet subproject
>
>
> Noel, I've being just writing Danny now, and I'll wait for his response.
> Should Mailet.org be the wrong place where to promote 'Little Components'
> ideas, I'll open a project on SourceForge. Little Components...Web
> Services...Some ideas are coming to my mind.
>
> Marco
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Noel J. Bergman" <no...@devtech.com>
> To: "James Users List" <ja...@jakarta.apache.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2003 10:33 PM
> Subject: RE: Mailet subproject
>
>
> > Marco,
> >
> > > Hi, does it exists a sort of jamesMailet subproject?
> >
> > I've been trying to promote one. I've asked that people
> interested in it
> > please speak up. The James Project Management Committee is amenable to
> the
> > creation of a Mailet sub-project. We want to know that there is
> sufficient
> > interest.
> >
> > With respect to CVS Commit privileges, those come with some time.
> >
> > In the meantime, Danny has mailets.org.
> >
> > --- Noel
> >
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Re: Mailet subproject
Posted by Marco Tedone <mt...@jemos.org>.
Noel, I've being just writing Danny now, and I'll wait for his response.
Should Mailet.org be the wrong place where to promote 'Little Components'
ideas, I'll open a project on SourceForge. Little Components...Web
Services...Some ideas are coming to my mind.
Marco
----- Original Message -----
From: "Noel J. Bergman" <no...@devtech.com>
To: "James Users List" <ja...@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2003 10:33 PM
Subject: RE: Mailet subproject
> Marco,
>
> > Hi, does it exists a sort of jamesMailet subproject?
>
> I've been trying to promote one. I've asked that people interested in it
> please speak up. The James Project Management Committee is amenable to
the
> creation of a Mailet sub-project. We want to know that there is
sufficient
> interest.
>
> With respect to CVS Commit privileges, those come with some time.
>
> In the meantime, Danny has mailets.org.
>
> --- Noel
>
>
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RE: Mailet subproject
Posted by "Noel J. Bergman" <no...@devtech.com>.
Marco,
> Hi, does it exists a sort of jamesMailet subproject?
I've been trying to promote one. I've asked that people interested in it
please speak up. The James Project Management Committee is amenable to the
creation of a Mailet sub-project. We want to know that there is sufficient
interest.
With respect to CVS Commit privileges, those come with some time.
In the meantime, Danny has mailets.org.
--- Noel
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