HttpClient migration from 3.x to 5.x - Need info on support plan

[Kaluva S <sk...@gmail.com>]

We are planning to migrate our old legacy code which uses
*commons-httpclient-3.x* to *httpclient5.x* . But found that its going to
be complete rewrite as lot of classes/packages removed.

Tried migrating to *httpclient4.x* , seems to be having lesser changes
compared to *5.x* migration.

But want to know the support plan for 4.x and 5.x from apache/community. As
per maven repo, last release on 4.x was on *Oct - 2020* where as 5.x was *Jan
- 2022*

Can i expect fixes/code changes in 4.x for the next 4/5 years atleast if i
use it instead of 5.x?

Please share if anyone has idea on this.

Re: HttpClient migration from 3.x to 5.x - Need info on support plan

[Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com>]

The sooner the better for a 4.x cut off IMO. There is a lot of complex code
in total for versions 3, 4, 5, and very limited human resources.

Gary

On Wed, Oct 19, 2022, 15:50 Michael Osipov <mi...@apache.org> wrote:

> Am 2022-10-18 um 17:27 schrieb Oleg Kalnichevski:
> > On Tue, 2022-10-18 at 20:23 +0530, Kaluva S wrote:
> >> We are planning to migrate our old legacy code which uses
> >> *commons-httpclient-3.x* to *httpclient5.x* . But found that its
> >> going to
> >> be complete rewrite as lot of classes/packages removed.
> >>
> >> Tried migrating to *httpclient4.x* , seems to be having lesser
> >> changes
> >> compared to *5.x* migration.
> >>
> >> But want to know the support plan for 4.x and 5.x from
> >> apache/community. As
> >> per maven repo, last release on 4.x was on *Oct - 2020* where as 5.x
> >> was *Jan
> >> - 2022*
> >>
> >
> > Both branches will continue to be supported, especially 5.1 and 5.2.
> > The reason for last releases being so far in the past is simply we have
> > not been getting that many bug reports and there have been no major bug
> > fixes that would warrant an immediate release.
> >
> > 5.1 and 5.2 releases though can be expected soon.
> >
> >> Can i expect fixes/code changes in 4.x for the next 4/5 years atleast
> >> if i
> >> use it instead of 5.x?
> >>
> >> Please share if anyone has idea on this.
> >
> > We are all volunteers here. No one is gets paid for providing
> > HttpClient support. We can all go away any time. That is the whole
> > support plan.
> >
> > One thing I can guarantee however that there will be no feature
> > development for 4.5 any more. We will likely be doing fixes for severe
> > and security issues in 4.5 going forward.
>
> At some point in time we need to decide when to cut off 4.x. I don't see
> a reason to keep this branch alive for the next five years. Given that
> very little work on this project it would make sense to reduce the
> amount of supported branches.
>
> M
>
>
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Re: HttpClient migration from 3.x to 5.x - Need info on support plan

[Michael Osipov <mi...@apache.org>]

Am 2022-10-18 um 17:27 schrieb Oleg Kalnichevski:
> On Tue, 2022-10-18 at 20:23 +0530, Kaluva S wrote:
>> We are planning to migrate our old legacy code which uses
>> *commons-httpclient-3.x* to *httpclient5.x* . But found that its
>> going to
>> be complete rewrite as lot of classes/packages removed.
>>
>> Tried migrating to *httpclient4.x* , seems to be having lesser
>> changes
>> compared to *5.x* migration.
>>
>> But want to know the support plan for 4.x and 5.x from
>> apache/community. As
>> per maven repo, last release on 4.x was on *Oct - 2020* where as 5.x
>> was *Jan
>> - 2022*
>>
> 
> Both branches will continue to be supported, especially 5.1 and 5.2.
> The reason for last releases being so far in the past is simply we have
> not been getting that many bug reports and there have been no major bug
> fixes that would warrant an immediate release.
> 
> 5.1 and 5.2 releases though can be expected soon.
> 
>> Can i expect fixes/code changes in 4.x for the next 4/5 years atleast
>> if i
>> use it instead of 5.x?
>>
>> Please share if anyone has idea on this.
> 
> We are all volunteers here. No one is gets paid for providing
> HttpClient support. We can all go away any time. That is the whole
> support plan.
> 
> One thing I can guarantee however that there will be no feature
> development for 4.5 any more. We will likely be doing fixes for severe
> and security issues in 4.5 going forward.

At some point in time we need to decide when to cut off 4.x. I don't see 
a reason to keep this branch alive for the next five years. Given that 
very little work on this project it would make sense to reduce the 
amount of supported branches.

M


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Re: HttpClient migration from 3.x to 5.x - Need info on support plan

[Kaluva S <sk...@gmail.com>]

Thank you so much for the clarification Oleg. I got the info I need.

So I can safely migrate to 4.x without much hassle.

On Tue, Oct 18, 2022 at 8:57 PM Oleg Kalnichevski <ol...@apache.org> wrote:

> On Tue, 2022-10-18 at 20:23 +0530, Kaluva S wrote:
> > We are planning to migrate our old legacy code which uses
> > *commons-httpclient-3.x* to *httpclient5.x* . But found that its
> > going to
> > be complete rewrite as lot of classes/packages removed.
> >
> > Tried migrating to *httpclient4.x* , seems to be having lesser
> > changes
> > compared to *5.x* migration.
> >
> > But want to know the support plan for 4.x and 5.x from
> > apache/community. As
> > per maven repo, last release on 4.x was on *Oct - 2020* where as 5.x
> > was *Jan
> > - 2022*
> >
>
> Both branches will continue to be supported, especially 5.1 and 5.2.
> The reason for last releases being so far in the past is simply we have
> not been getting that many bug reports and there have been no major bug
> fixes that would warrant an immediate release.
>
> 5.1 and 5.2 releases though can be expected soon.
>
> > Can i expect fixes/code changes in 4.x for the next 4/5 years atleast
> > if i
> > use it instead of 5.x?
> >
> > Please share if anyone has idea on this.
>
> We are all volunteers here. No one is gets paid for providing
> HttpClient support. We can all go away any time. That is the whole
> support plan.
>
> One thing I can guarantee however that there will be no feature
> development for 4.5 any more. We will likely be doing fixes for severe
> and security issues in 4.5 going forward.
>
> Oleg
>
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Re: HttpClient migration from 3.x to 5.x - Need info on support plan

[Oleg Kalnichevski <ol...@apache.org>]

On Tue, 2022-10-18 at 20:23 +0530, Kaluva S wrote:
> We are planning to migrate our old legacy code which uses
> *commons-httpclient-3.x* to *httpclient5.x* . But found that its
> going to
> be complete rewrite as lot of classes/packages removed.
> 
> Tried migrating to *httpclient4.x* , seems to be having lesser
> changes
> compared to *5.x* migration.
> 
> But want to know the support plan for 4.x and 5.x from
> apache/community. As
> per maven repo, last release on 4.x was on *Oct - 2020* where as 5.x
> was *Jan
> - 2022*
> 

Both branches will continue to be supported, especially 5.1 and 5.2.
The reason for last releases being so far in the past is simply we have
not been getting that many bug reports and there have been no major bug
fixes that would warrant an immediate release.

5.1 and 5.2 releases though can be expected soon. 

> Can i expect fixes/code changes in 4.x for the next 4/5 years atleast
> if i
> use it instead of 5.x?
> 
> Please share if anyone has idea on this.

We are all volunteers here. No one is gets paid for providing
HttpClient support. We can all go away any time. That is the whole
support plan.

One thing I can guarantee however that there will be no feature
development for 4.5 any more. We will likely be doing fixes for severe
and security issues in 4.5 going forward. 

Oleg  

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