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Posted to user@ofbiz.apache.org by Sharan-F <sh...@gmail.com> on 2015/05/26 10:09:29 UTC
[MARKETING] Updating our OFBiz Website
Hi All
I'd like to start a discussion about changing and updating our main project
website. We have had our current side for quite a while now and I think that
it would be good to update it.
Here are some of my initial thoughts
1. Our logo takes up less space now and we have a lot of space at the top so
perhaps we could look at moving the navigation bar into this area
2. A lot of the links on the right hand side could be moved into a drop down
navigation bar to give us more space
3. The site itself contains a lot of words which I think makes it hard for
visitors to see what is important
4. If we want to focus on potential visitor types (e.g. developers and
business users) then we need to adapt the website and highlight what would
interest them and encourage them into trying OFBiz
5. At the moment he biggest thing we highlight is downloading OFBiz (yet why
would someone download if they are not sure that it meets their needs).
6. On my version of linux (14.04 LTS) the webpage doesn't fill the screen
(I'm not sure if that is just me!)
7. We have links to two versions of OFBiz demos (do we really need 2?)
without any instructions for users as to what they need to do. If for some
reason they are logged out they have no instructions how to log in again.
8. The 'News' section is very static and gets out of date quickly. We have
resurrected our blog so perhaps it would be better to replace this with a
blog feed instead.
What do people think? I'm happy to hear any other ideas that people may
have.
If feedback is positive then I'd like to start work on a new draft website
that could be presented to back the community. Only if accepted will we do
the changeover.
Also I'm not a graphical person or a website designer so would be looking
for some volunteers to help me put this together.
Thanks
Sharan
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Re: [MARKETING] Updating our OFBiz Website
Posted by Julien NICOLAS <ju...@nomaka.fr>.
Le 26/05/2015 16:42, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :
> Inline, I answer only when I have something to say (else rather OK)
>
> Le 26/05/2015 11:05, Michael Brohl a écrit :
>> 2. A lot of the links on the right hand side could be moved into a
>> drop down
>>> navigation bar to give us more space
>> Mmhh, not sure if this should be done because if you put the links
>> into a dropdown element they are out of sight, you have to open the
>> dropdown to see what's in it. Do we need more space?
>
> I agree about not using dropdowns for links
>
>> 5. At the moment he biggest thing we highlight is downloading OFBiz
>> (yet why
>>> would someone download if they are not sure that it meets their needs).
>>> 6. On my version of linux (14.04 LTS) the webpage doesn't fill the
>>> screen
>>> (I'm not sure if that is just me!)
>> We should definetely make the new website responsive, that means it
>> should look good and have a good usability on all devices (monitors,
>> smartphones etc.)
>
> +1 on responsive website!
>
>>> 7. We have links to two versions of OFBiz demos (do we really need 2?)
>>> without any instructions for users as to what they need to do. If
>>> for some
>>> reason they are logged out they have no instructions how to log in
>>> again.
>> We could add some funtionality in "demo mode": specify the demo user
>> login directly on the login screen and provide a link to a "demo
>> page" on the website where the demo is explained.
>
> They are integrated as URL parameters, it's even easier for users. I
> don't think they need to know the demo credential. Explanation about
> the demo would be good indeed.
>
>>> 8. The 'News' section is very static and gets out of date quickly.
>>> We have
>>> resurrected our blog so perhaps it would be better to replace this
>>> with a
>>> blog feed instead.
>> +1 That's enough news together with the twitter feed.
>
> Agreed
>
>>>
>>> What do people think? I'm happy to hear any other ideas that people may
>>> have.
>>>
>>> If feedback is positive then I'd like to start work on a new draft
>>> website
>>> that could be presented to back the community. Only if accepted will
>>> we do
>>> the changeover.
>> Overall, a +1 from me.
>>>
>>> Also I'm not a graphical person or a website designer so would be
>>> looking
>>> for some volunteers to help me put this together.
>> Let's do the conceptual work first, I think we can provide some help
>> on this when we have the requirements clear.
>
> If Julien is also working on it you will need to sync and... ask for
> feedback regularly...
Yes, for now it's just to see actual website, not to commit :)
But as soon as we can work on the new one, we need to define how to work
together.
Julien.
>
> Thanks for your effort!
>
> Jacques
>
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Sharan
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
Re: [MARKETING] Updating our OFBiz Website
Posted by Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>.
Inline, I answer only when I have something to say (else rather OK)
Le 26/05/2015 11:05, Michael Brohl a écrit :
> 2. A lot of the links on the right hand side could be moved into a drop down
>> navigation bar to give us more space
> Mmhh, not sure if this should be done because if you put the links into a dropdown element they are out of sight, you have to open the dropdown to
> see what's in it. Do we need more space?
I agree about not using dropdowns for links
> 5. At the moment he biggest thing we highlight is downloading OFBiz (yet why
>> would someone download if they are not sure that it meets their needs).
>> 6. On my version of linux (14.04 LTS) the webpage doesn't fill the screen
>> (I'm not sure if that is just me!)
> We should definetely make the new website responsive, that means it should look good and have a good usability on all devices (monitors, smartphones
> etc.)
+1 on responsive website!
>> 7. We have links to two versions of OFBiz demos (do we really need 2?)
>> without any instructions for users as to what they need to do. If for some
>> reason they are logged out they have no instructions how to log in again.
> We could add some funtionality in "demo mode": specify the demo user login directly on the login screen and provide a link to a "demo page" on the
> website where the demo is explained.
They are integrated as URL parameters, it's even easier for users. I don't think they need to know the demo credential. Explanation about the demo
would be good indeed.
>> 8. The 'News' section is very static and gets out of date quickly. We have
>> resurrected our blog so perhaps it would be better to replace this with a
>> blog feed instead.
> +1 That's enough news together with the twitter feed.
Agreed
>>
>> What do people think? I'm happy to hear any other ideas that people may
>> have.
>>
>> If feedback is positive then I'd like to start work on a new draft website
>> that could be presented to back the community. Only if accepted will we do
>> the changeover.
> Overall, a +1 from me.
>>
>> Also I'm not a graphical person or a website designer so would be looking
>> for some volunteers to help me put this together.
> Let's do the conceptual work first, I think we can provide some help on this when we have the requirements clear.
If Julien is also working on it you will need to sync and... ask for feedback regularly...
Thanks for your effort!
Jacques
>>
>> Thanks
>> Sharan
>>
>>
>>
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>
>
Re: [MARKETING] Updating our OFBiz Website
Posted by Michael Brohl <mi...@ecomify.de>.
Hi Sharan,
thanks for driving this forward! See my comments inline.
Regards,
Michael Brohl
ecomify GmbH
www.ecomify.de
Am 26.05.15 um 10:09 schrieb Sharan-F:
> Hi All
>
> I'd like to start a discussion about changing and updating our main project
> website. We have had our current side for quite a while now and I think that
> it would be good to update it.
>
> Here are some of my initial thoughts
>
> 1. Our logo takes up less space now and we have a lot of space at the top so
> perhaps we could look at moving the navigation bar into this area
+1
> 2. A lot of the links on the right hand side could be moved into a drop down
> navigation bar to give us more space
Mmhh, not sure if this should be done because if you put the links into
a dropdown element they are out of sight, you have to open the dropdown
to see what's in it. Do we need more space?
> 3. The site itself contains a lot of words which I think makes it hard for
> visitors to see what is important
I think the problem is not the number of words, which are not bad for
SEO, but the structure of the texts. We could restructure them to have
some kind of landing page for different subjects and related sub pages
with more detailed texts on the subject.
> 4. If we want to focus on potential visitor types (e.g. developers and
> business users) then we need to adapt the website and highlight what would
> interest them and encourage them into trying OFBiz
Yes, a first step could be to identify user groups, their use of OFBiz
and maybe some different uses cases.
> 5. At the moment he biggest thing we highlight is downloading OFBiz (yet why
> would someone download if they are not sure that it meets their needs).
> 6. On my version of linux (14.04 LTS) the webpage doesn't fill the screen
> (I'm not sure if that is just me!)
We should definetely make the new website responsive, that means it
should look good and have a good usability on all devices (monitors,
smartphones etc.)
> 7. We have links to two versions of OFBiz demos (do we really need 2?)
> without any instructions for users as to what they need to do. If for some
> reason they are logged out they have no instructions how to log in again.
We could add some funtionality in "demo mode": specify the demo user
login directly on the login screen and provide a link to a "demo page"
on the website where the demo is explained.
> 8. The 'News' section is very static and gets out of date quickly. We have
> resurrected our blog so perhaps it would be better to replace this with a
> blog feed instead.
+1 That's enough news together with the twitter feed.
>
> What do people think? I'm happy to hear any other ideas that people may
> have.
>
> If feedback is positive then I'd like to start work on a new draft website
> that could be presented to back the community. Only if accepted will we do
> the changeover.
Overall, a +1 from me.
>
> Also I'm not a graphical person or a website designer so would be looking
> for some volunteers to help me put this together.
Let's do the conceptual work first, I think we can provide some help on
this when we have the requirements clear.
>
> Thanks
> Sharan
>
>
>
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Re: [MARKETING] Updating our OFBiz Website
Posted by Sharan-F <sh...@gmail.com>.
Hi All
Thanks for the feedback.
Next Steps
- I will create a wiki page to capture the requirements we have so far.
(please feel free to add any comments to page once created)
- We will then see if we have enough information to begin looking at the
approach and outline planning around how it could be done.
Thanks
Sharan
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Re: [MARKETING] Updating our OFBiz Website
Posted by Pierre Smits <pi...@gmail.com>.
Great idea!
Best regards,
Pierre Smits
*ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>*
Services & Solutions for Cloud-
Based Manufacturing, Professional
Services and Retail & Trade
http://www.orrtiz.com
On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 9:06 AM, Sharan-F <sh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi All
>
> Is anyone available to help me start putting together some ideas or
> examples
> of what our new OFBiz website main page could look like ?
>
> Thanks
> Sharan
>
>
>
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>
RE: [MARKETING] Updating our OFBiz Website
Posted by Sharan-F <sh...@gmail.com>.
Thanks for your feedback Nick.
And I can see that it's not only Netsuite – look at the websites of other
open source ERPs like
https://www.odoo.com/
http://www.openbravo.com/
I can see that we have a great opportunity to improve our website so let's
do it.
Thanks
Sharan
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RE: [MARKETING] Updating our OFBiz Website
Posted by Nick Rosser <nr...@solveda.com>.
> What should be the balance between open source traditions vs promoting individual SI companies through listing their customers and resources or linking to their web sites?
Indeed, here lies a big issue. It's an open-source project with pure goals -- with a solution set that is "bet your business" -- with a mandate to not overly support any specific corporate entity -- but having to give some confidence to any viewer that there are significant resources available so they can execute on the most important decisions they will make (at least for full-blown ERP).
Take a look at netsuite.com. Notice how they organize their main navbar:
Products (for us, could be features / solutions or similar)
Customers
Solutions (note the "By Role", exactly to Adrian's point there is CEO / CFO / CIO)
Platform
Services (for OFBiz, this could be "Resources")
Partners (SI's?)
Company (History, Intro Committers and other key contributors?)
Nick
-----Original Message-----
From: Ron Wheeler [mailto:rwheeler@artifact-software.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 12:16 PM
To: user@ofbiz.apache.org
Subject: Re: [MARKETING] Updating our OFBiz Website
Good points.
How many of the new visitors are going to install OFBiz themselves as compared to the number who will ask an OFBiz System Integrator to do the job?
How many are coming here to verify the assertions made by System Integrators or to assess the maturity of their proposed system's base product (roadmap, release frequency, maintenance policies, strength of the management team) and activity of the community?
Many (most???) of the key contributors make their living by delivering a fork of OFBiz that they customize for each client so they may have a different perspective of what the site should do.
What should be the balance between open source traditions vs promoting individual SI companies through listing their customers and resources or linking to their web sites?
Ron
On 28/07/2015 11:58 AM, Nick Rosser wrote:
> Agree with all.
>
> >From our experiences anyone who contacts us about OFBiz services is typically a techy. They have dug around the OFBiz and BigFish sites and are looking for additional information in order to gauge how applicable OFBiz is for their business. As a tech their first hurdle will be to convince the bosses to consider OFBiz. I'm sure in most cases the bosses do some basic research and are totally unimpressed with our current informational web sites.
>
> As a business owner, whenever I'm looking for software solutions I will be swayed by:
>
> (a) who is using it now -- number of customers and who those customers are (have I heard of them)
>
> (b) who can support my tech / user team to get up and running
>
> (c) who can support my tech / user team into the future (strength of documentation, resources, community)
>
> Now for a more contentious topic that has been raised before -- a more compelling and prominent list, with some visuals, of who-is-using-OFBiz and Service Providers. IMHO, we have to remember that most of the other Apache projects are technical in nature, and the decisions for selection are made by techies, with approval from a techy boss. These offerings are also downloaded thousands of times (of hundreds of thousands) so having a who-is-using-this section is inappropriate.
>
> OFBiz is different, it's a bet-your-business decision and a decision typically approved by the business. I'd like to think we can do a much better job of promoting (marketing) the solution for the real decision makers (in Adrian's words, CFO / CIO).
>
> Nick
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Brohl [mailto:michael.brohl@ecomify.de]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 4:39 AM
> To: user@ofbiz.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [MARKETING] Updating our OFBiz Website
>
> I totally agree with that point with an addition - the business *and*
> technical stuff must be presented in a clear and easy to find way.
>
> We don't know who is looking at the site and for what purpose so
> everything should be covered:
>
> - the CEO/CFO who is looking for a new platform wants to see features,
> licenses, references who is using OFBiz, service providers etc.,
> everything you need to decide if OFBiz is for you on the business level
> and which risks and chances it brings
>
> - the CIO and his staff who has the task to evaluate new platforms for
> his company, he needs some of the above but also some more technical
> informations like architecture, used frameworks, documentation etc. to
> decide if the platform is also fitting to the company system landscape,
> the know-how of his staff etc.
>
> - the developer who is searching for technical documentation, data
> models, API, best practices etc.
>
> - the user who is searching for user centric documentation, best
> practices and help
>
> I think the main page should include these entry points with easy to
> understand titles.
>
> Michael Brohl
> ecomify GmbH
> www.ecomify.de
>
> Am 28.07.15 um 10:14 schrieb Adrian Crum:
>> It would be nice if our site update targeted end users - with links to
>> the existing developer-centric content.
>>
>> Our site appeals to geeks, not to CFOs or CEOs - those who need to
>> make platform decisions. Maybe we should rethink our presentation to
>> the outside world.
>>
>> Adrian Crum
>> Sandglass Software
>> www.sandglass-software.com
>>
>> On 7/28/2015 12:06 AM, Sharan-F wrote:
>>> Hi All
>>>
>>> Is anyone available to help me start putting together some ideas or
>>> examples
>>> of what our new OFBiz website main page could look like ?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Sharan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> View this message in context:
>>> http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.com/MARKETING-Updating-our-OFBiz-Website-tp4668990p4671121.html
>>> Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>>
>
>
--
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President
Artifact Software Inc
email: rwheeler@artifact-software.com
skype: ronaldmwheeler
phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102
Re: [MARKETING] Updating our OFBiz Website
Posted by Ron Wheeler <rw...@artifact-software.com>.
Good points.
How many of the new visitors are going to install OFBiz themselves as
compared to the number who will ask an OFBiz System Integrator to do the
job?
How many are coming here to verify the assertions made by System
Integrators or to assess the maturity of their proposed system's base
product (roadmap, release frequency, maintenance policies, strength of
the management team) and activity of the community?
Many (most???) of the key contributors make their living by delivering a
fork of OFBiz that they customize for each client so they may have a
different perspective of what the site should do.
What should be the balance between open source traditions vs promoting
individual SI companies through listing their customers and resources or
linking to their web sites?
Ron
On 28/07/2015 11:58 AM, Nick Rosser wrote:
> Agree with all.
>
> >From our experiences anyone who contacts us about OFBiz services is typically a techy. They have dug around the OFBiz and BigFish sites and are looking for additional information in order to gauge how applicable OFBiz is for their business. As a tech their first hurdle will be to convince the bosses to consider OFBiz. I'm sure in most cases the bosses do some basic research and are totally unimpressed with our current informational web sites.
>
> As a business owner, whenever I'm looking for software solutions I will be swayed by:
>
> (a) who is using it now -- number of customers and who those customers are (have I heard of them)
>
> (b) who can support my tech / user team to get up and running
>
> (c) who can support my tech / user team into the future (strength of documentation, resources, community)
>
> Now for a more contentious topic that has been raised before -- a more compelling and prominent list, with some visuals, of who-is-using-OFBiz and Service Providers. IMHO, we have to remember that most of the other Apache projects are technical in nature, and the decisions for selection are made by techies, with approval from a techy boss. These offerings are also downloaded thousands of times (of hundreds of thousands) so having a who-is-using-this section is inappropriate.
>
> OFBiz is different, it's a bet-your-business decision and a decision typically approved by the business. I'd like to think we can do a much better job of promoting (marketing) the solution for the real decision makers (in Adrian's words, CFO / CIO).
>
> Nick
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Brohl [mailto:michael.brohl@ecomify.de]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 4:39 AM
> To: user@ofbiz.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [MARKETING] Updating our OFBiz Website
>
> I totally agree with that point with an addition - the business *and*
> technical stuff must be presented in a clear and easy to find way.
>
> We don't know who is looking at the site and for what purpose so
> everything should be covered:
>
> - the CEO/CFO who is looking for a new platform wants to see features,
> licenses, references who is using OFBiz, service providers etc.,
> everything you need to decide if OFBiz is for you on the business level
> and which risks and chances it brings
>
> - the CIO and his staff who has the task to evaluate new platforms for
> his company, he needs some of the above but also some more technical
> informations like architecture, used frameworks, documentation etc. to
> decide if the platform is also fitting to the company system landscape,
> the know-how of his staff etc.
>
> - the developer who is searching for technical documentation, data
> models, API, best practices etc.
>
> - the user who is searching for user centric documentation, best
> practices and help
>
> I think the main page should include these entry points with easy to
> understand titles.
>
> Michael Brohl
> ecomify GmbH
> www.ecomify.de
>
> Am 28.07.15 um 10:14 schrieb Adrian Crum:
>> It would be nice if our site update targeted end users - with links to
>> the existing developer-centric content.
>>
>> Our site appeals to geeks, not to CFOs or CEOs - those who need to
>> make platform decisions. Maybe we should rethink our presentation to
>> the outside world.
>>
>> Adrian Crum
>> Sandglass Software
>> www.sandglass-software.com
>>
>> On 7/28/2015 12:06 AM, Sharan-F wrote:
>>> Hi All
>>>
>>> Is anyone available to help me start putting together some ideas or
>>> examples
>>> of what our new OFBiz website main page could look like ?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Sharan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> View this message in context:
>>> http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.com/MARKETING-Updating-our-OFBiz-Website-tp4668990p4671121.html
>>> Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>>
>
>
--
Ron Wheeler
President
Artifact Software Inc
email: rwheeler@artifact-software.com
skype: ronaldmwheeler
phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102
RE: [MARKETING] Updating our OFBiz Website
Posted by Nick Rosser <nr...@solveda.com>.
Agree with all.
>From our experiences anyone who contacts us about OFBiz services is typically a techy. They have dug around the OFBiz and BigFish sites and are looking for additional information in order to gauge how applicable OFBiz is for their business. As a tech their first hurdle will be to convince the bosses to consider OFBiz. I'm sure in most cases the bosses do some basic research and are totally unimpressed with our current informational web sites.
As a business owner, whenever I'm looking for software solutions I will be swayed by:
(a) who is using it now -- number of customers and who those customers are (have I heard of them)
(b) who can support my tech / user team to get up and running
(c) who can support my tech / user team into the future (strength of documentation, resources, community)
Now for a more contentious topic that has been raised before -- a more compelling and prominent list, with some visuals, of who-is-using-OFBiz and Service Providers. IMHO, we have to remember that most of the other Apache projects are technical in nature, and the decisions for selection are made by techies, with approval from a techy boss. These offerings are also downloaded thousands of times (of hundreds of thousands) so having a who-is-using-this section is inappropriate.
OFBiz is different, it's a bet-your-business decision and a decision typically approved by the business. I'd like to think we can do a much better job of promoting (marketing) the solution for the real decision makers (in Adrian's words, CFO / CIO).
Nick
-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Brohl [mailto:michael.brohl@ecomify.de]
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 4:39 AM
To: user@ofbiz.apache.org
Subject: Re: [MARKETING] Updating our OFBiz Website
I totally agree with that point with an addition - the business *and*
technical stuff must be presented in a clear and easy to find way.
We don't know who is looking at the site and for what purpose so
everything should be covered:
- the CEO/CFO who is looking for a new platform wants to see features,
licenses, references who is using OFBiz, service providers etc.,
everything you need to decide if OFBiz is for you on the business level
and which risks and chances it brings
- the CIO and his staff who has the task to evaluate new platforms for
his company, he needs some of the above but also some more technical
informations like architecture, used frameworks, documentation etc. to
decide if the platform is also fitting to the company system landscape,
the know-how of his staff etc.
- the developer who is searching for technical documentation, data
models, API, best practices etc.
- the user who is searching for user centric documentation, best
practices and help
I think the main page should include these entry points with easy to
understand titles.
Michael Brohl
ecomify GmbH
www.ecomify.de
Am 28.07.15 um 10:14 schrieb Adrian Crum:
> It would be nice if our site update targeted end users - with links to
> the existing developer-centric content.
>
> Our site appeals to geeks, not to CFOs or CEOs - those who need to
> make platform decisions. Maybe we should rethink our presentation to
> the outside world.
>
> Adrian Crum
> Sandglass Software
> www.sandglass-software.com
>
> On 7/28/2015 12:06 AM, Sharan-F wrote:
>> Hi All
>>
>> Is anyone available to help me start putting together some ideas or
>> examples
>> of what our new OFBiz website main page could look like ?
>>
>> Thanks
>> Sharan
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> View this message in context:
>> http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.com/MARKETING-Updating-our-OFBiz-Website-tp4668990p4671121.html
>> Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>
Re: [MARKETING] Updating our OFBiz Website
Posted by Sharan-F <sh...@gmail.com>.
Hi Michael
I created this page to summarise the requirements captured so far.
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/New+OFBiz+Website+Requirements
At the bottom I started to list the potential visitors we might have and
what they could be looking for. We could easily add the CFO / CIO etc
requirements to this to see what is common across those type of users.
Thanks
Sharan
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Re: [MARKETING] Updating our OFBiz Website
Posted by Michael Brohl <mi...@ecomify.de>.
I totally agree with that point with an addition - the business *and*
technical stuff must be presented in a clear and easy to find way.
We don't know who is looking at the site and for what purpose so
everything should be covered:
- the CEO/CFO who is looking for a new platform wants to see features,
licenses, references who is using OFBiz, service providers etc.,
everything you need to decide if OFBiz is for you on the business level
and which risks and chances it brings
- the CIO and his staff who has the task to evaluate new platforms for
his company, he needs some of the above but also some more technical
informations like architecture, used frameworks, documentation etc. to
decide if the platform is also fitting to the company system landscape,
the know-how of his staff etc.
- the developer who is searching for technical documentation, data
models, API, best practices etc.
- the user who is searching for user centric documentation, best
practices and help
I think the main page should include these entry points with easy to
understand titles.
Michael Brohl
ecomify GmbH
www.ecomify.de
Am 28.07.15 um 10:14 schrieb Adrian Crum:
> It would be nice if our site update targeted end users - with links to
> the existing developer-centric content.
>
> Our site appeals to geeks, not to CFOs or CEOs - those who need to
> make platform decisions. Maybe we should rethink our presentation to
> the outside world.
>
> Adrian Crum
> Sandglass Software
> www.sandglass-software.com
>
> On 7/28/2015 12:06 AM, Sharan-F wrote:
>> Hi All
>>
>> Is anyone available to help me start putting together some ideas or
>> examples
>> of what our new OFBiz website main page could look like ?
>>
>> Thanks
>> Sharan
>>
>>
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Re: [MARKETING] Updating our OFBiz Website
Posted by Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>.
That sounds like a good idea Adrian!
Jacques
Le 28/07/2015 10:14, Adrian Crum a écrit :
> It would be nice if our site update targeted end users - with links to the existing developer-centric content.
>
> Our site appeals to geeks, not to CFOs or CEOs - those who need to make platform decisions. Maybe we should rethink our presentation to the outside
> world.
>
> Adrian Crum
> Sandglass Software
> www.sandglass-software.com
>
> On 7/28/2015 12:06 AM, Sharan-F wrote:
>> Hi All
>>
>> Is anyone available to help me start putting together some ideas or examples
>> of what our new OFBiz website main page could look like ?
>>
>> Thanks
>> Sharan
>>
>>
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>
Re: [MARKETING] Updating our OFBiz Website
Posted by Adrian Crum <ad...@sandglass-software.com>.
It would be nice if our site update targeted end users - with links to
the existing developer-centric content.
Our site appeals to geeks, not to CFOs or CEOs - those who need to make
platform decisions. Maybe we should rethink our presentation to the
outside world.
Adrian Crum
Sandglass Software
www.sandglass-software.com
On 7/28/2015 12:06 AM, Sharan-F wrote:
> Hi All
>
> Is anyone available to help me start putting together some ideas or examples
> of what our new OFBiz website main page could look like ?
>
> Thanks
> Sharan
>
>
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Re: [MARKETING] Updating our OFBiz Website
Posted by Michael Brohl <mi...@ecomify.de>.
Hi Sharan,
I would like to help you on this task.
I'll put some ideas together in the next couple of days and post it
here, or do you have other plans to organize this?
Regards,
Michael Brohl
ecomify GmbH
www.ecomify.de
Am 28.07.15 um 09:06 schrieb Sharan-F:
> Hi All
>
> Is anyone available to help me start putting together some ideas or examples
> of what our new OFBiz website main page could look like ?
>
> Thanks
> Sharan
>
Re: [MARKETING] Updating our OFBiz Website
Posted by Taher Alkhateeb <sl...@gmail.com>.
Hi Sharan and everyone,
Okay so based on your feedback and everyone's input, I have the following ideas in mind:
main features
=============
- First, we introduce bootstrap to make it a responsive website and re-align everything with the grid system
- We introduce a modern design, this includes at a minimum a unified header, footer and main menu (and possibly a secondary menu) unified across the entire site
- A more powerful and flashy slider on the main page to showcase the framework. I prefer the mega sliders that fill up almost the entire page
- Big buttons and icons
- Much less text, much more pictures and animation
- We need artwork, some of which can be purchased for marginal costs (photos, graphics, etc ...)
Now to give a lot of space for your "marketing" pitch in the main page, a lot of things need to either be deleted or moved to other locations, so the website structure is of crucial importance. For example, we can redesign the main menu to look something like this:
main menu structure
===================
- Main
- Getting Started
- Download (which version to download and dependencies)
- Install (how to step by step for installation)
- My First Component (A hello world component with a single screen)
- Documentation
- User Documentation
- Technical Documentation
- Wiki
- API Reference
- Community
- Getting Involved
- Meetups and Events
- Mailing Lists
- Source Repository
- Issue Tracker
- About
- Features (put screenshots here)
- FAQ
- Members
- License
- Who uses OFBiz
Footer Features
===============
- social media links
- secondary links less often used
- possible replication of the main menu
That's what I have for now, I hope it's useful
Taher Alkhateeb
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To: user@ofbiz.apache.org
Sent: Tuesday, 28 July, 2015 3:26:35 PM
Subject: Re: [MARKETING] Updating our OFBiz Website
Hi Taher
I think there are a few reasons behind the re-design and I highlighted a few
in my initial mail in this thread. I started documenting things here
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/New+OFBiz+Website+Requirements
- If I needed to choose one then it would be to make it more accessible to
the different types of visitors including our existing community. At the
moment I don't think it really appeals to business people and our community
is a mix of technical and business.
- have no idea about frameworks or APIs we can use. Is there anyone else
that can answer this?
- I don't know anything about what limitations we have for artwork. I don't
even know where the ones we use now came from. Does anyone else know?
- I am thinking about unifying the whole site. I mentioned the main page
because that is the most visible but the whole website needs to be reviewed,
updated and re-organised if necessary.
Sorry I havent been able to answer them all but I hope it helps.
Thanks
Sharan
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Re: [MARKETING] Updating our OFBiz Website
Posted by Sharan-F <sh...@gmail.com>.
Hi Taher
I think there are a few reasons behind the re-design and I highlighted a few
in my initial mail in this thread. I started documenting things here
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/New+OFBiz+Website+Requirements
- If I needed to choose one then it would be to make it more accessible to
the different types of visitors including our existing community. At the
moment I don't think it really appeals to business people and our community
is a mix of technical and business.
- have no idea about frameworks or APIs we can use. Is there anyone else
that can answer this?
- I don't know anything about what limitations we have for artwork. I don't
even know where the ones we use now came from. Does anyone else know?
- I am thinking about unifying the whole site. I mentioned the main page
because that is the most visible but the whole website needs to be reviewed,
updated and re-organised if necessary.
Sorry I havent been able to answer them all but I hope it helps.
Thanks
Sharan
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Re: [MARKETING] Updating our OFBiz Website
Posted by Taher Alkhateeb <sl...@gmail.com>.
Hi Sharan,
A few questions to see if I can help:
- What is the purpose of the re-design?
- Can we use any frameworks or APIs beyond what's used right now (bootstrap, etc ...)
- Can we use trademarked artwork (stock photos and so on)
- Can we unify the whole website or is it just the main page? I ask because usually when we design a website we have unified regions, blocks, shared resources and so on
I think answering those questions might be a first step in brainstorming and would also show how much we can contribute in our areas of expertise.
Taher Alkhateeb
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To: user@ofbiz.apache.org
Sent: Tuesday, 28 July, 2015 10:06:29 AM
Subject: Re: [MARKETING] Updating our OFBiz Website
Hi All
Is anyone available to help me start putting together some ideas or examples
of what our new OFBiz website main page could look like ?
Thanks
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Re: [MARKETING] Updating our OFBiz Website
Posted by Sharan-F <sh...@gmail.com>.
Hi All
Is anyone available to help me start putting together some ideas or examples
of what our new OFBiz website main page could look like ?
Thanks
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Re: [MARKETING] Updating our OFBiz Website
Posted by Sharan-F <sh...@gmail.com>.
Hi All
I've put together a summary of some initial requirements on the wiki here
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/New+OFBiz+Website+Requirements
<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/New+OFBiz+Website+Requirements>
Do we have enough information to start putiting together an outline plan of
what needs to be done? If not then please feel free to highlight what
additional items are missing or needed.
Thanks
Sharan
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Re: [MARKETING] Updating our OFBiz Website
Posted by Sharan-F <sh...@gmail.com>.
Thank you everyone for your responses, support and ideas so far.
I've done some follow up based on Jacopo's query about ASF guidelines for
project websites and whatever we do needs to conform to the following.
http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs.html#navigation
<http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs.html#navigation>
Thanks
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Re: [MARKETING] Updating our OFBiz Website
Posted by Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>.
Le 26/05/2015 10:43, Jacopo Cappellato a écrit :
>> >2. A lot of the links on the right hand side could be moved into a drop down
>> >navigation bar to give us more space
> Or moved to a secondary page; but please consider that the links under "Apache Software Foundation" are requested by the ASF; or at least were requested and before moving them in a less prominent position we should check with the ASF.
>
I read again about that recently, it's still requested, could be on another page than main but would need to be a prominent one, I suggest to keep
them there as is
Jacques
Re: [MARKETING] Updating our OFBiz Website
Posted by Jacopo Cappellato <ja...@hotwaxsystems.com>.
Hi Sharan,
+1 on all points, with the following additional comments:
On May 26, 2015, at 10:09 AM, Sharan-F <sh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi All
>
> I'd like to start a discussion about changing and updating our main project
> website. We have had our current side for quite a while now and I think that
> it would be good to update it.
>
> Here are some of my initial thoughts
>
> 1. Our logo takes up less space now and we have a lot of space at the top so
> perhaps we could look at moving the navigation bar into this area
+1
We could also improve the quality/resolution of the current logo.
> 2. A lot of the links on the right hand side could be moved into a drop down
> navigation bar to give us more space
Or moved to a secondary page; but please consider that the links under "Apache Software Foundation" are requested by the ASF; or at least were requested and before moving them in a less prominent position we should check with the ASF.
> 3. The site itself contains a lot of words which I think makes it hard for
> visitors to see what is important
> 4. If we want to focus on potential visitor types (e.g. developers and
> business users) then we need to adapt the website and highlight what would
> interest them and encourage them into trying OFBiz
> 5. At the moment he biggest thing we highlight is downloading OFBiz (yet why
> would someone download if they are not sure that it meets their needs).
> 6. On my version of linux (14.04 LTS) the webpage doesn't fill the screen
> (I'm not sure if that is just me!)
> 7. We have links to two versions of OFBiz demos (do we really need 2?)
> without any instructions for users as to what they need to do. If for some
> reason they are logged out they have no instructions how to log in again.
We can keep the links to one and then move the others to a less prominent place/page.
>
> 8. The 'News' section is very static and gets out of date quickly. We have
> resurrected our blog so perhaps it would be better to replace this with a
> blog feed instead.
+1
Jacopo
>
> What do people think? I'm happy to hear any other ideas that people may
> have.
>
> If feedback is positive then I'd like to start work on a new draft website
> that could be presented to back the community. Only if accepted will we do
> the changeover.
>
> Also I'm not a graphical person or a website designer so would be looking
> for some volunteers to help me put this together.
>
> Thanks
> Sharan
>
>
>
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Re: [MARKETING] Updating our OFBiz Website
Posted by Julien NICOLAS <ju...@nomaka.fr>.
Le 26/05/2015 11:01, Jacopo Cappellato a écrit :
> On May 26, 2015, at 10:51 AM, Julien NICOLAS <ju...@nomaka.fr> wrote:
>
>> I can help you for that. I'm not web designer but I'll do my best to help you :)
>> In this way, it could be interesting to know what is the CMS used ?
>> Is it OFBiz ?
> Julien, are you asking how/where the source files for the website are stored?
> They are just static html pages and you can check them out from here:
>
> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/ofbiz/site
>
> (you can use https with your committer's account).
>
> You will find more information here: http://ofbiz.apache.org/source-repositories.html
>
> I hope it helps,
Perfect !
Thank you Jacopo :)
Julien
>
> Jacopo
>
Re: [MARKETING] Updating our OFBiz Website
Posted by Jacopo Cappellato <ja...@hotwaxsystems.com>.
On May 26, 2015, at 10:51 AM, Julien NICOLAS <ju...@nomaka.fr> wrote:
> I can help you for that. I'm not web designer but I'll do my best to help you :)
> In this way, it could be interesting to know what is the CMS used ?
> Is it OFBiz ?
Julien, are you asking how/where the source files for the website are stored?
They are just static html pages and you can check them out from here:
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/ofbiz/site
(you can use https with your committer's account).
You will find more information here: http://ofbiz.apache.org/source-repositories.html
I hope it helps,
Jacopo
Re: [MARKETING] Updating our OFBiz Website
Posted by Julien NICOLAS <ju...@nomaka.fr>.
Le 26/05/2015 10:09, Sharan-F a écrit :
> Hi All
>
> I'd like to start a discussion about changing and updating our main project
> website. We have had our current side for quite a while now and I think that
> it would be good to update it.
>
> Here are some of my initial thoughts
>
> 1. Our logo takes up less space now and we have a lot of space at the top so
> perhaps we could look at moving the navigation bar into this area
+1
> 2. A lot of the links on the right hand side could be moved into a drop down
> navigation bar to give us more space
+1
> 3. The site itself contains a lot of words which I think makes it hard for
> visitors to see what is important
We can keep all that words but highlight some of them.
> 4. If we want to focus on potential visitor types (e.g. developers and
> business users) then we need to adapt the website and highlight what would
> interest them and encourage them into trying OFBiz
If we use One page design for the main page, we can create section that
can be used to highlight each flavour of OFBiz (framework, ERP, e-Commerce).
Then we may redirect to a specific page that can contain details.
> 5. At the moment he biggest thing we highlight is downloading OFBiz (yet why
> would someone download if they are not sure that it meets their needs).
+1 (but it MUST be easy to find the download link)
> 6. On my version of linux (14.04 LTS) the webpage doesn't fill the screen
> (I'm not sure if that is just me!)
It's normal. You can choose to fill the screen but in this way it's more
difficult to be sure that the design works with all screen resolutions...
Except in some specific case but it's better to keep this :)
If you have some counter-examples to show want you imagine, just share it :)
> 7. We have links to two versions of OFBiz demos (do we really need 2?)
> without any instructions for users as to what they need to do. If for some
> reason they are logged out they have no instructions how to log in again.
+1. It could be enough to have the last stable version in demo (and
easiest for maintenance)
> 8. The 'News' section is very static and gets out of date quickly. We have
> resurrected our blog so perhaps it would be better to replace this with a
> blog feed instead.
+1
>
> What do people think? I'm happy to hear any other ideas that people may
> have.
>
> If feedback is positive then I'd like to start work on a new draft website
> that could be presented to back the community. Only if accepted will we do
> the changeover.
>
> Also I'm not a graphical person or a website designer so would be looking
> for some volunteers to help me put this together.
I can help you for that. I'm not web designer but I'll do my best to
help you :)
In this way, it could be interesting to know what is the CMS used ?
Is it OFBiz ?
Julien.
>
> Thanks
> Sharan
>
>
>
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Re: [MARKETING] Updating our OFBiz Website
Posted by Julien NICOLAS <ju...@nomaka.fr>.
Hello Sharan,
Sorry but it's very hard for me to find time... I would like to help but
for now it's just impossible.
I'll help as soon as I'll be available.
Have a nice day,
Julien.
Le 19/08/2015 11:14, Sharan-F a écrit :
> Hi Everyone
>
> Is anyone available to help me start putting together some ideas or examples
> of what our new OFBiz website main page could look like ?
>
> I know that we have another Community Day coming up next month so perhaps
> that could be used to focus the website effort. What do people think?
>
> Thanks
> Sharan
>
>
>
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Re: [MARKETING] Updating our OFBiz Website
Posted by FGomez <fg...@mail.com>.
Sharan,
I can participate too. Let me know when you are planning to start the
discussion.
Regards,
Fernando
Le 2015-08-24 11:48, Sharan-F a écrit :
> Hi Taher
>
> It looks like it's just you and me at the moment, so I'll contact you
> offline and we can arrange a date and time to chat.
>
> Thanks
> Sharan
>
>
>
>
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Re: [MARKETING] Updating our OFBiz Website
Posted by Taher Alkhateeb <sl...@gmail.com>.
Look forward ...
On Aug 24, 2015 6:53 PM, "Sharan-F" <sh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Taher
>
> It looks like it's just you and me at the moment, so I'll contact you
> offline and we can arrange a date and time to chat.
>
> Thanks
> Sharan
>
>
>
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Re: [MARKETING] Updating our OFBiz Website
Posted by Sharan-F <sh...@gmail.com>.
Hi Taher
It looks like it's just you and me at the moment, so I'll contact you
offline and we can arrange a date and time to chat.
Thanks
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Re: [MARKETING] Updating our OFBiz Website
Posted by Sharan-F <sh...@gmail.com>.
Hi Julien / Taher
Thanks for the responses.
My goal at this stage was just to prepare something like a simple
presentation graphic that could outline each of the potential ideas, that
way it could be shown to the community for feedback and discussion.
I think the idea of a group call could be really useful to get things
started so let's try that. The earliest it could be done is probably
sometime next week.
*So anyone *wanting to be involved in a group call to discuss the website,
please respond to this message.
Once we have the list of people I will try to get a time and date arranged
for a call.
Thanks
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Re: [MARKETING] Updating our OFBiz Website
Posted by Taher Alkhateeb <sl...@gmail.com>.
Hi Sharan,
I'd like to help. I think it would be hard to collaborate by email though. Perhaps we should conference on Skype or similar service to try and reach consensus before continuing the work by writing.
Taher Alkhateeb
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Hi Everyone
Is anyone available to help me start putting together some ideas or examples
of what our new OFBiz website main page could look like ?
I know that we have another Community Day coming up next month so perhaps
that could be used to focus the website effort. What do people think?
Thanks
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Re: [MARKETING] Updating our OFBiz Website
Posted by Sharan-F <sh...@gmail.com>.
Hi Everyone
Is anyone available to help me start putting together some ideas or examples
of what our new OFBiz website main page could look like ?
I know that we have another Community Day coming up next month so perhaps
that could be used to focus the website effort. What do people think?
Thanks
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Re: [MARKETING] Updating our OFBiz Website
Posted by Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>.
Le 26/05/2015 21:11, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :
> We should take more care of Openhub
> http://www.networkworld.com/article/2926175/opensource-subnet/open-hub-how-to-find-the-best-open-source-projects.html
> Try https://www.openhub.net/p?query=ERP&sort=users and other things (like other sortings and compare).
>
> We should get rid of Dockook also, people might think we use XSL instead of Groovy because of it https://www.openhub.net/p/Apache-OFBiz
This is not a good reason, moreover now that I have cleaned the way OpenHub sees OFBiz repo, with more reality by excluding most externals misleading
things from its parser
Jacques
>
> Jacques
Re: [MARKETING] Updating our OFBiz Website
Posted by Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>.
We should take more care of Openhub http://www.networkworld.com/article/2926175/opensource-subnet/open-hub-how-to-find-the-best-open-source-projects.html
Try https://www.openhub.net/p?query=ERP&sort=users and other things (like other sortings and compare).
We should get rid of Dockook also, people might think we use XSL instead of Groovy because of it https://www.openhub.net/p/Apache-OFBiz
Jjacques
Le 26/05/2015 17:32, gil portenseigne a écrit :
>
> On 26/05/2015 16:56, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>> Le 26/05/2015 15:20, Adrian Crum a écrit :
>>> +1
>>>
>>> I believe we should have separate sections for (potential) service providers and end users. Then the end user section can be linked to from
>>> end-user sites and it can be referenced in end user announcements etc.
>>>
>>> So, the main landing page would have something like:
>>>
>>> If you are a developer, go <a href="...">here</a>.
>>>
>>> If you are an end user, go <a href="...">here</a>.
>>
>> I like the idea
>>
>> Jacques
> +1
>
> An end user space with very marketing oriented data could be great. In an end user point of view i found current website not very attractive.
>
> The idea expressed in the thread of doing a WebResponsive design is nice !
>
> I'd be glad to help.
>
> Gil
>>
>>>
>>> Adrian Crum
>>> Sandglass Software
>>> www.sandglass-software.com
>>>
>>> On 5/26/2015 1:09 AM, Sharan-F wrote:
>>>> Hi All
>>>>
>>>> I'd like to start a discussion about changing and updating our main project
>>>> website. We have had our current side for quite a while now and I think that
>>>> it would be good to update it.
>>>>
>>>> Here are some of my initial thoughts
>>>>
>>>> 1. Our logo takes up less space now and we have a lot of space at the top so
>>>> perhaps we could look at moving the navigation bar into this area
>>>> 2. A lot of the links on the right hand side could be moved into a drop down
>>>> navigation bar to give us more space
>>>> 3. The site itself contains a lot of words which I think makes it hard for
>>>> visitors to see what is important
>>>> 4. If we want to focus on potential visitor types (e.g. developers and
>>>> business users) then we need to adapt the website and highlight what would
>>>> interest them and encourage them into trying OFBiz
>>>> 5. At the moment he biggest thing we highlight is downloading OFBiz (yet why
>>>> would someone download if they are not sure that it meets their needs).
>>>> 6. On my version of linux (14.04 LTS) the webpage doesn't fill the screen
>>>> (I'm not sure if that is just me!)
>>>> 7. We have links to two versions of OFBiz demos (do we really need 2?)
>>>> without any instructions for users as to what they need to do. If for some
>>>> reason they are logged out they have no instructions how to log in again.
>>>> 8. The 'News' section is very static and gets out of date quickly. We have
>>>> resurrected our blog so perhaps it would be better to replace this with a
>>>> blog feed instead.
>>>>
>>>> What do people think? I'm happy to hear any other ideas that people may
>>>> have.
>>>>
>>>> If feedback is positive then I'd like to start work on a new draft website
>>>> that could be presented to back the community. Only if accepted will we do
>>>> the changeover.
>>>>
>>>> Also I'm not a graphical person or a website designer so would be looking
>>>> for some volunteers to help me put this together.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Sharan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> View this message in context: http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.com/MARKETING-Updating-our-OFBiz-Website-tp4668990.html
>>>> Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>>>
>>>
>
Re: [MARKETING] Updating our OFBiz Website
Posted by gil portenseigne <gi...@nereide.fr>.
On 26/05/2015 16:56, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
> Le 26/05/2015 15:20, Adrian Crum a écrit :
>> +1
>>
>> I believe we should have separate sections for (potential) service
>> providers and end users. Then the end user section can be linked to
>> from end-user sites and it can be referenced in end user
>> announcements etc.
>>
>> So, the main landing page would have something like:
>>
>> If you are a developer, go <a href="...">here</a>.
>>
>> If you are an end user, go <a href="...">here</a>.
>
> I like the idea
>
> Jacques
+1
An end user space with very marketing oriented data could be great. In
an end user point of view i found current website not very attractive.
The idea expressed in the thread of doing a WebResponsive design is nice !
I'd be glad to help.
Gil
>
>>
>> Adrian Crum
>> Sandglass Software
>> www.sandglass-software.com
>>
>> On 5/26/2015 1:09 AM, Sharan-F wrote:
>>> Hi All
>>>
>>> I'd like to start a discussion about changing and updating our main
>>> project
>>> website. We have had our current side for quite a while now and I
>>> think that
>>> it would be good to update it.
>>>
>>> Here are some of my initial thoughts
>>>
>>> 1. Our logo takes up less space now and we have a lot of space at
>>> the top so
>>> perhaps we could look at moving the navigation bar into this area
>>> 2. A lot of the links on the right hand side could be moved into a
>>> drop down
>>> navigation bar to give us more space
>>> 3. The site itself contains a lot of words which I think makes it
>>> hard for
>>> visitors to see what is important
>>> 4. If we want to focus on potential visitor types (e.g. developers and
>>> business users) then we need to adapt the website and highlight what
>>> would
>>> interest them and encourage them into trying OFBiz
>>> 5. At the moment he biggest thing we highlight is downloading OFBiz
>>> (yet why
>>> would someone download if they are not sure that it meets their needs).
>>> 6. On my version of linux (14.04 LTS) the webpage doesn't fill the
>>> screen
>>> (I'm not sure if that is just me!)
>>> 7. We have links to two versions of OFBiz demos (do we really need 2?)
>>> without any instructions for users as to what they need to do. If
>>> for some
>>> reason they are logged out they have no instructions how to log in
>>> again.
>>> 8. The 'News' section is very static and gets out of date quickly.
>>> We have
>>> resurrected our blog so perhaps it would be better to replace this
>>> with a
>>> blog feed instead.
>>>
>>> What do people think? I'm happy to hear any other ideas that people may
>>> have.
>>>
>>> If feedback is positive then I'd like to start work on a new draft
>>> website
>>> that could be presented to back the community. Only if accepted will
>>> we do
>>> the changeover.
>>>
>>> Also I'm not a graphical person or a website designer so would be
>>> looking
>>> for some volunteers to help me put this together.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Sharan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> View this message in context:
>>> http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.com/MARKETING-Updating-our-OFBiz-Website-tp4668990.html
>>> Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>>
>>
Re: [MARKETING] Updating our OFBiz Website
Posted by Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>.
Le 26/05/2015 15:20, Adrian Crum a écrit :
> +1
>
> I believe we should have separate sections for (potential) service providers and end users. Then the end user section can be linked to from end-user
> sites and it can be referenced in end user announcements etc.
>
> So, the main landing page would have something like:
>
> If you are a developer, go <a href="...">here</a>.
>
> If you are an end user, go <a href="...">here</a>.
I like the idea
Jacques
>
> Adrian Crum
> Sandglass Software
> www.sandglass-software.com
>
> On 5/26/2015 1:09 AM, Sharan-F wrote:
>> Hi All
>>
>> I'd like to start a discussion about changing and updating our main project
>> website. We have had our current side for quite a while now and I think that
>> it would be good to update it.
>>
>> Here are some of my initial thoughts
>>
>> 1. Our logo takes up less space now and we have a lot of space at the top so
>> perhaps we could look at moving the navigation bar into this area
>> 2. A lot of the links on the right hand side could be moved into a drop down
>> navigation bar to give us more space
>> 3. The site itself contains a lot of words which I think makes it hard for
>> visitors to see what is important
>> 4. If we want to focus on potential visitor types (e.g. developers and
>> business users) then we need to adapt the website and highlight what would
>> interest them and encourage them into trying OFBiz
>> 5. At the moment he biggest thing we highlight is downloading OFBiz (yet why
>> would someone download if they are not sure that it meets their needs).
>> 6. On my version of linux (14.04 LTS) the webpage doesn't fill the screen
>> (I'm not sure if that is just me!)
>> 7. We have links to two versions of OFBiz demos (do we really need 2?)
>> without any instructions for users as to what they need to do. If for some
>> reason they are logged out they have no instructions how to log in again.
>> 8. The 'News' section is very static and gets out of date quickly. We have
>> resurrected our blog so perhaps it would be better to replace this with a
>> blog feed instead.
>>
>> What do people think? I'm happy to hear any other ideas that people may
>> have.
>>
>> If feedback is positive then I'd like to start work on a new draft website
>> that could be presented to back the community. Only if accepted will we do
>> the changeover.
>>
>> Also I'm not a graphical person or a website designer so would be looking
>> for some volunteers to help me put this together.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Sharan
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> View this message in context: http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.com/MARKETING-Updating-our-OFBiz-Website-tp4668990.html
>> Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>
>
Re: [MARKETING] Updating our OFBiz Website
Posted by Adrian Crum <ad...@sandglass-software.com>.
+1
I believe we should have separate sections for (potential) service
providers and end users. Then the end user section can be linked to from
end-user sites and it can be referenced in end user announcements etc.
So, the main landing page would have something like:
If you are a developer, go <a href="...">here</a>.
If you are an end user, go <a href="...">here</a>.
Adrian Crum
Sandglass Software
www.sandglass-software.com
On 5/26/2015 1:09 AM, Sharan-F wrote:
> Hi All
>
> I'd like to start a discussion about changing and updating our main project
> website. We have had our current side for quite a while now and I think that
> it would be good to update it.
>
> Here are some of my initial thoughts
>
> 1. Our logo takes up less space now and we have a lot of space at the top so
> perhaps we could look at moving the navigation bar into this area
> 2. A lot of the links on the right hand side could be moved into a drop down
> navigation bar to give us more space
> 3. The site itself contains a lot of words which I think makes it hard for
> visitors to see what is important
> 4. If we want to focus on potential visitor types (e.g. developers and
> business users) then we need to adapt the website and highlight what would
> interest them and encourage them into trying OFBiz
> 5. At the moment he biggest thing we highlight is downloading OFBiz (yet why
> would someone download if they are not sure that it meets their needs).
> 6. On my version of linux (14.04 LTS) the webpage doesn't fill the screen
> (I'm not sure if that is just me!)
> 7. We have links to two versions of OFBiz demos (do we really need 2?)
> without any instructions for users as to what they need to do. If for some
> reason they are logged out they have no instructions how to log in again.
> 8. The 'News' section is very static and gets out of date quickly. We have
> resurrected our blog so perhaps it would be better to replace this with a
> blog feed instead.
>
> What do people think? I'm happy to hear any other ideas that people may
> have.
>
> If feedback is positive then I'd like to start work on a new draft website
> that could be presented to back the community. Only if accepted will we do
> the changeover.
>
> Also I'm not a graphical person or a website designer so would be looking
> for some volunteers to help me put this together.
>
> Thanks
> Sharan
>
>
>
> --
> View this message in context: http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.com/MARKETING-Updating-our-OFBiz-Website-tp4668990.html
> Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>