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[DISCUSS] ATS code study groups
Hi all,
Sparky suggested that we should do a better job getting new developers familiar with the ATS code base. As such, Bryan and I was thinking of maybe doing a few 4H Zoom sessions, each presenting and discussing some larger portion of the ATS code base. Such as
1. The cache code
2. The Event System and processors
3. The HttpSM
4. Writing plugins / Plugin APIs
Or other areas people feel worth discussing. This would definitely be hardcode C/C++ madness, focusing on developers and definitely not users. We would need to get an expert in each of these areas to hold each session. But before we sign Alan up for this, I wanted to see if there’s a general interest in this idea?
Cheers,
-- Leif
Re: [E] Re: [DISCUSS] ATS code study groups
Posted by Walt Karas <wk...@verizonmedia.com.INVALID>.
The other option would be to write tutorials. If it's easier to do talks,
hopefully they would be recorded. We could scrape together money for a
tech writer and get written tutorials from the videos.
On Tue, Feb 2, 2021 at 4:35 PM Evan Zelkowitz <ez...@apache.org> wrote:
> Can put me down as interested in all of them, along with some
> coworkers who probably won't post on here
>
> On Tue, Feb 2, 2021 at 3:27 PM Leif Hedstrom <zw...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Sparky suggested that we should do a better job getting new developers
> familiar with the ATS code base. As such, Bryan and I was thinking of maybe
> doing a few 4H Zoom sessions, each presenting and discussing some larger
> portion of the ATS code base. Such as
> >
> > 1. The cache code
> > 2. The Event System and processors
> > 3. The HttpSM
> > 4. Writing plugins / Plugin APIs
> >
> > Or other areas people feel worth discussing. This would definitely be
> hardcode C/C++ madness, focusing on developers and definitely not users. We
> would need to get an expert in each of these areas to hold each session.
> But before we sign Alan up for this, I wanted to see if there’s a general
> interest in this idea?
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > -- Leif
>
Re: [DISCUSS] ATS code study groups
Posted by Evan Zelkowitz <ez...@apache.org>.
Can put me down as interested in all of them, along with some
coworkers who probably won't post on here
On Tue, Feb 2, 2021 at 3:27 PM Leif Hedstrom <zw...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Sparky suggested that we should do a better job getting new developers familiar with the ATS code base. As such, Bryan and I was thinking of maybe doing a few 4H Zoom sessions, each presenting and discussing some larger portion of the ATS code base. Such as
>
> 1. The cache code
> 2. The Event System and processors
> 3. The HttpSM
> 4. Writing plugins / Plugin APIs
>
> Or other areas people feel worth discussing. This would definitely be hardcode C/C++ madness, focusing on developers and definitely not users. We would need to get an expert in each of these areas to hold each session. But before we sign Alan up for this, I wanted to see if there’s a general interest in this idea?
>
> Cheers,
>
> -- Leif
Re: [DISCUSS] ATS code study groups
Posted by zzz <zz...@apache.org>.
FYI in case you don't know, @oknet hosted a great learning material -
atsinternals <https://github.com/oknet/atsinternals>, which can help to
understand ATS better. It can also help the session leader to prepare the
topic. The only complaint is only limited chapters were translated to
English.
Randy DuCharame <ra...@ad5gb.com.invalid> 于2021年2月3日周三 上午8:41写道：
> Time permitting, I'd be all in for this though lately I've been
> upside-down with work.
>
> That can't last forever though.
>
>
> >> Also, I will take volunteers to host and lead sessions. We can’t let AMC
> >> have all the fun!
> >>
> >> — Leif
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Feb 2, 2021, at 15:27, Leif Hedstrom <zw...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi all,
> >>>
> >>> Sparky suggested that we should do a better job getting new developers
> >> familiar with the ATS code base. As such, Bryan and I was thinking of
> maybe
> >> doing a few 4H Zoom sessions, each presenting and discussing some larger
> >> portion of the ATS code base. Such as
> >>> 1. The cache code
> >>> 2. The Event System and processors
> >>> 3. The HttpSM
> >>> 4. Writing plugins / Plugin APIs
> >>>
> >>> Or other areas people feel worth discussing. This would definitely be
> >> hardcode C/C++ madness, focusing on developers and definitely not
> users. We
> >> would need to get an expert in each of these areas to hold each session.
> >> But before we sign Alan up for this, I wanted to see if there’s a
> general
> >> interest in this idea?
> >>> Cheers,
> >>>
> >>> -- Leif
> >>>
> >>>
> --
> Randall DuCharme (Radio AD5GB)
> Powered by Open Source software.
>
>
Re: [DISCUSS] ATS code study groups
Posted by Randy DuCharame <ra...@ad5gb.com.INVALID>.
Time permitting, I'd be all in for this though lately I've been
upside-down with work.
That can't last forever though.
>> Also, I will take volunteers to host and lead sessions. We can’t let AMC
>> have all the fun!
>>
>> — Leif
>>
>>
>>> On Feb 2, 2021, at 15:27, Leif Hedstrom <zw...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Sparky suggested that we should do a better job getting new developers
>> familiar with the ATS code base. As such, Bryan and I was thinking of maybe
>> doing a few 4H Zoom sessions, each presenting and discussing some larger
>> portion of the ATS code base. Such as
>>> 1. The cache code
>>> 2. The Event System and processors
>>> 3. The HttpSM
>>> 4. Writing plugins / Plugin APIs
>>>
>>> Or other areas people feel worth discussing. This would definitely be
>> hardcode C/C++ madness, focusing on developers and definitely not users. We
>> would need to get an expert in each of these areas to hold each session.
>> But before we sign Alan up for this, I wanted to see if there’s a general
>> interest in this idea?
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> -- Leif
>>>
>>>
--
Randall DuCharme (Radio AD5GB)
Powered by Open Source software.
Re: [DISCUSS] ATS code study groups
Posted by Dan Tisdall <da...@gmail.com>.
I would love this! (I've been watching the project for a while but not
contributed anything yet)
On Wed, Feb 3, 2021 at 1:54 AM Leif Hedstrom <zw...@apache.org> wrote:
> Also, I will take volunteers to host and lead sessions. We can’t let AMC
> have all the fun!
>
> — Leif
>
>
> > On Feb 2, 2021, at 15:27, Leif Hedstrom <zw...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Sparky suggested that we should do a better job getting new developers
> familiar with the ATS code base. As such, Bryan and I was thinking of maybe
> doing a few 4H Zoom sessions, each presenting and discussing some larger
> portion of the ATS code base. Such as
> >
> > 1. The cache code
> > 2. The Event System and processors
> > 3. The HttpSM
> > 4. Writing plugins / Plugin APIs
> >
> > Or other areas people feel worth discussing. This would definitely be
> hardcode C/C++ madness, focusing on developers and definitely not users. We
> would need to get an expert in each of these areas to hold each session.
> But before we sign Alan up for this, I wanted to see if there’s a general
> interest in this idea?
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > -- Leif
>
>
Re: [DISCUSS] ATS code study groups
Posted by Leif Hedstrom <zw...@apache.org>.
Also, I will take volunteers to host and lead sessions. We can’t let AMC have all the fun!
— Leif
> On Feb 2, 2021, at 15:27, Leif Hedstrom <zw...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Sparky suggested that we should do a better job getting new developers familiar with the ATS code base. As such, Bryan and I was thinking of maybe doing a few 4H Zoom sessions, each presenting and discussing some larger portion of the ATS code base. Such as
>
> 1. The cache code
> 2. The Event System and processors
> 3. The HttpSM
> 4. Writing plugins / Plugin APIs
>
> Or other areas people feel worth discussing. This would definitely be hardcode C/C++ madness, focusing on developers and definitely not users. We would need to get an expert in each of these areas to hold each session. But before we sign Alan up for this, I wanted to see if there’s a general interest in this idea?
>
> Cheers,
>
> -- Leif
Re: [DISCUSS] ATS code study groups
Posted by Leif Hedstrom <zw...@apache.org>.
I’ve started this Confluence page on the Wiki, where we can start rounding up the volunteers. I suggest that we have no sessions shorter then 1h, and no session longer then 3h, meaning, a Tutorial Day could have 1-3 sessions.
Cheers,
— Leif
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TS/ATS+Code+Tutorial+Sessions <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TS/ATS+Code+Tutorial+Sessions>
> On Feb 2, 2021, at 3:26 PM, Leif Hedstrom <zw...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Sparky suggested that we should do a better job getting new developers familiar with the ATS code base. As such, Bryan and I was thinking of maybe doing a few 4H Zoom sessions, each presenting and discussing some larger portion of the ATS code base. Such as
>
> 1. The cache code
> 2. The Event System and processors
> 3. The HttpSM
> 4. Writing plugins / Plugin APIs
>
> Or other areas people feel worth discussing. This would definitely be hardcode C/C++ madness, focusing on developers and definitely not users. We would need to get an expert in each of these areas to hold each session. But before we sign Alan up for this, I wanted to see if there’s a general interest in this idea?
>
> Cheers,
>
> -- Leif
Re: [E] Re: [DISCUSS] ATS code study groups
Posted by Damian Meden <da...@verizonmedia.com.INVALID>.
I'm on board! totally interested. Count me in.
I also think, as was already said, having a video + tutorial would be
ideal!
Regards.
Damian
On Wed, Feb 3, 2021 at 8:16 AM Nick Kew <ni...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > On 2 Feb 2021, at 23:20, Leif Hedstrom <zw...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> >> On Feb 2, 2021, at 4:09 PM, Juncheng Yang <pe...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> I like the idea, it would be better if it will be recorded.
> >
> > They would be recorded.
> >
> > On Walts suggestions: We can do that (“tutorials”), I just worry that it
> will go nowhere fast, whereas an interaction Zoom session, with one driver,
> and many listeners and participants, we can cover a lot of code together.
> I’m not opposed to doing tutorials if that’s preferable.
>
> This all sounds excellent. Count me in!
>
> I guess if these are convened under the auspices of the project, the
> recordings should
> also become an official project resource. That opens the suggestion that
> written
> tutorial materials be hosted alongside them, managed by the community
> either by
> wiki or under full change-control.
>
> Those who are most comfortable presenting, present. Those who prefer
> writing, write.
>
> --
> Nick Kew
Re: [DISCUSS] ATS code study groups
Posted by Nick Kew <ni...@apache.org>.
> On 2 Feb 2021, at 23:20, Leif Hedstrom <zw...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> On Feb 2, 2021, at 4:09 PM, Juncheng Yang <pe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I like the idea, it would be better if it will be recorded.
>
> They would be recorded.
>
> On Walts suggestions: We can do that (“tutorials”), I just worry that it will go nowhere fast, whereas an interaction Zoom session, with one driver, and many listeners and participants, we can cover a lot of code together. I’m not opposed to doing tutorials if that’s preferable.
This all sounds excellent. Count me in!
I guess if these are convened under the auspices of the project, the recordings should
also become an official project resource. That opens the suggestion that written
tutorial materials be hosted alongside them, managed by the community either by
wiki or under full change-control.
Those who are most comfortable presenting, present. Those who prefer writing, write.
--
Nick Kew
Re: [DISCUSS] ATS code study groups
Posted by Leif Hedstrom <zw...@apache.org>.
> On Feb 2, 2021, at 4:09 PM, Juncheng Yang <pe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I like the idea, it would be better if it will be recorded.
They would be recorded.
On Walts suggestions: We can do that (“tutorials”), I just worry that it will go nowhere fast, whereas an interaction Zoom session, with one driver, and many listeners and participants, we can cover a lot of code together. I’m not opposed to doing tutorials if that’s preferable.
Cheers,
— Leif
>
>
> Best,
> Jason
>
>
>> On Feb 2, 2021, at 5:26 PM, Leif Hedstrom <zw...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Sparky suggested that we should do a better job getting new developers familiar with the ATS code base. As such, Bryan and I was thinking of maybe doing a few 4H Zoom sessions, each presenting and discussing some larger portion of the ATS code base. Such as
>>
>> 1. The cache code
>> 2. The Event System and processors
>> 3. The HttpSM
>> 4. Writing plugins / Plugin APIs
>>
>> Or other areas people feel worth discussing. This would definitely be hardcode C/C++ madness, focusing on developers and definitely not users. We would need to get an expert in each of these areas to hold each session. But before we sign Alan up for this, I wanted to see if there’s a general interest in this idea?
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> -- Leif
>
Re: [DISCUSS] ATS code study groups
Posted by Nick Dunkin <Ni...@vecima.com>.
This is an excellent idea. I have a whole team who could benefit.
Thanks
Nick
Sent from my iPhone
> On Feb 2, 2021, at 6:09 PM, Juncheng Yang <pe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I like the idea, it would be better if it will be recorded.
>
>
> Best,
> Jason
>
>
>> On Feb 2, 2021, at 5:26 PM, Leif Hedstrom <zw...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Sparky suggested that we should do a better job getting new developers familiar with the ATS code base. As such, Bryan and I was thinking of maybe doing a few 4H Zoom sessions, each presenting and discussing some larger portion of the ATS code base. Such as
>>
>> 1. The cache code
>> 2. The Event System and processors
>> 3. The HttpSM
>> 4. Writing plugins / Plugin APIs
>>
>> Or other areas people feel worth discussing. This would definitely be hardcode C/C++ madness, focusing on developers and definitely not users. We would need to get an expert in each of these areas to hold each session. But before we sign Alan up for this, I wanted to see if there’s a general interest in this idea?
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> -- Leif
>
Re: [DISCUSS] ATS code study groups
Posted by Juncheng Yang <pe...@gmail.com>.
I like the idea, it would be better if it will be recorded.
Best,
Jason
> On Feb 2, 2021, at 5:26 PM, Leif Hedstrom <zw...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Sparky suggested that we should do a better job getting new developers familiar with the ATS code base. As such, Bryan and I was thinking of maybe doing a few 4H Zoom sessions, each presenting and discussing some larger portion of the ATS code base. Such as
>
> 1. The cache code
> 2. The Event System and processors
> 3. The HttpSM
> 4. Writing plugins / Plugin APIs
>
> Or other areas people feel worth discussing. This would definitely be hardcode C/C++ madness, focusing on developers and definitely not users. We would need to get an expert in each of these areas to hold each session. But before we sign Alan up for this, I wanted to see if there’s a general interest in this idea?
>
> Cheers,
>
> -- Leif