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Posted to dev@geronimo.apache.org by Dave Colasurdo <da...@earthlink.net> on 2006/04/28 03:51:00 UTC

user-apps directory

This reminds me of a topic from a few weeks ago..  Is there a JIRA open 
to address separating the end user applications from the geronimo 
internal plumbing?

Specifically, /Geronimo-1.1/repository/geronimo/ seems like a strange 
spot for end user applications.  Searching for deployed applications 
seems a bit like looking for a needle in the haystack.

  /Geronimo-1.1/repository/ has nearly 40 directories
  /Geronimo-1.1/repository/geronimo has nearly 70 directories.

How about a simple /Geronimo-1.1/user-apps/ that contains only deployed 
user applications?

Thanks
-Dave-

David Jencks (JIRA) wrote:
> remove config-store directories from assemblies, now that they aren't used any more
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
>          Key: GERONIMO-1932
>          URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-1932
>      Project: Geronimo
>         Type: Bug
>     Security: public (Regular issues) 
>   Components: buildsystem  
>     Versions: 1.1    
>     Reporter: David Jencks
>  Assigned to: David Jencks 
>      Fix For: 1.1
> 
> 
> modify the assembly plugin to not create the bogus empty unused obsolete config-store directory
> 

Re: user-apps directory

Posted by Jeff Genender <jg...@apache.org>.
+1...great idea.

Matt Hogstrom wrote:
> Dain and I had talked about this on Friday.  I think the direction needs
> to be to NOT have user artifacts in the Geronimo repo its just the way
> it is right now.  I think the idea of making a groupId of user-apps is
> fine.  Perhaps something like installedJ2EEApps would catch someone's
> eye faster.
> 
> Dave Colasurdo wrote:
>> Keeping with the theme of talking to myself..
>>
>> I guess it is simpler to just change the groupid in the sample
>> deployment plans to user-apps.  Of course users are free to specify
>> any groupid they want .. but the default in the sample plans that we
>> provide (including our documentation) will result in the user
>> applications being separated from the geronimo plumbing by naming
>> convention without any code impact..
>>
>> -Dave-
>>
>>
>> Dave Colasurdo wrote:
>>
>>> This reminds me of a topic from a few weeks ago..  Is there a JIRA
>>> open to address separating the end user applications from the
>>> geronimo internal plumbing?
>>>
>>> Specifically, /Geronimo-1.1/repository/geronimo/ seems like a strange
>>> spot for end user applications.  Searching for deployed applications
>>> seems a bit like looking for a needle in the haystack.
>>>
>>>  /Geronimo-1.1/repository/ has nearly 40 directories
>>>  /Geronimo-1.1/repository/geronimo has nearly 70 directories.
>>>
>>> How about a simple /Geronimo-1.1/user-apps/ that contains only
>>> deployed user applications?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> -Dave-
>>>
>>> David Jencks (JIRA) wrote:
>>>
>>>> remove config-store directories from assemblies, now that they
>>>> aren't used any more
>>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>          Key: GERONIMO-1932
>>>>          URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-1932
>>>>      Project: Geronimo
>>>>         Type: Bug
>>>>     Security: public (Regular issues)   Components: buildsystem     
>>>> Versions: 1.1        Reporter: David Jencks
>>>>  Assigned to: David Jencks      Fix For: 1.1
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> modify the assembly plugin to not create the bogus empty unused
>>>> obsolete config-store directory
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>

Re: user-apps directory

Posted by Matt Hogstrom <ma...@hogstrom.org>.
Dain and I had talked about this on Friday.  I think the direction needs to be to NOT have user 
artifacts in the Geronimo repo its just the way it is right now.  I think the idea of making a 
groupId of user-apps is fine.  Perhaps something like installedJ2EEApps would catch someone's eye 
faster.

Dave Colasurdo wrote:
> Keeping with the theme of talking to myself..
> 
> I guess it is simpler to just change the groupid in the sample 
> deployment plans to user-apps.  Of course users are free to specify any 
> groupid they want .. but the default in the sample plans that we provide 
> (including our documentation) will result in the user applications being 
> separated from the geronimo plumbing by naming convention without any 
> code impact..
> 
> -Dave-
> 
> 
> Dave Colasurdo wrote:
> 
>> This reminds me of a topic from a few weeks ago..  Is there a JIRA 
>> open to address separating the end user applications from the geronimo 
>> internal plumbing?
>>
>> Specifically, /Geronimo-1.1/repository/geronimo/ seems like a strange 
>> spot for end user applications.  Searching for deployed applications 
>> seems a bit like looking for a needle in the haystack.
>>
>>  /Geronimo-1.1/repository/ has nearly 40 directories
>>  /Geronimo-1.1/repository/geronimo has nearly 70 directories.
>>
>> How about a simple /Geronimo-1.1/user-apps/ that contains only 
>> deployed user applications?
>>
>> Thanks
>> -Dave-
>>
>> David Jencks (JIRA) wrote:
>>
>>> remove config-store directories from assemblies, now that they aren't 
>>> used any more
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 
>>>
>>>
>>>          Key: GERONIMO-1932
>>>          URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-1932
>>>      Project: Geronimo
>>>         Type: Bug
>>>     Security: public (Regular issues)   Components: buildsystem      
>>> Versions: 1.1        Reporter: David Jencks
>>>  Assigned to: David Jencks      Fix For: 1.1
>>>
>>>
>>> modify the assembly plugin to not create the bogus empty unused 
>>> obsolete config-store directory
>>>
>>
>>
> 
> 
> 

Re: user-apps directory

Posted by Donald Woods <dr...@yahoo.com>.
Good thoughts.

I would also like to see all of the non-core apps (like Daytrader, 
Magicgball, LDAP demo and realm, ...) moved out from under 
asf/geronimo/trunk/applications (like has been done for Daytrader) into 
a common subproject like asf/geronimo/applications or samples.  This 
subproject could then also hold deployment plans for other applications 
(like JRoller and Petstore) and be setup to create a runnable 
application testsuite using the same steps as we have today in 
Magicgball to extract a server, start it and deploy apps to it.....

-Donald


Dave Colasurdo wrote:
> Keeping with the theme of talking to myself..
> 
> I guess it is simpler to just change the groupid in the sample 
> deployment plans to user-apps.  Of course users are free to specify any 
> groupid they want .. but the default in the sample plans that we provide 
> (including our documentation) will result in the user applications being 
> separated from the geronimo plumbing by naming convention without any 
> code impact..
> 
> -Dave-
> 
> 
> Dave Colasurdo wrote:
> 
>> This reminds me of a topic from a few weeks ago..  Is there a JIRA 
>> open to address separating the end user applications from the geronimo 
>> internal plumbing?
>>
>> Specifically, /Geronimo-1.1/repository/geronimo/ seems like a strange 
>> spot for end user applications.  Searching for deployed applications 
>> seems a bit like looking for a needle in the haystack.
>>
>>  /Geronimo-1.1/repository/ has nearly 40 directories
>>  /Geronimo-1.1/repository/geronimo has nearly 70 directories.
>>
>> How about a simple /Geronimo-1.1/user-apps/ that contains only 
>> deployed user applications?
>>
>> Thanks
>> -Dave-
>>
>> David Jencks (JIRA) wrote:
>>
>>> remove config-store directories from assemblies, now that they aren't 
>>> used any more
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 
>>>
>>>
>>>          Key: GERONIMO-1932
>>>          URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-1932
>>>      Project: Geronimo
>>>         Type: Bug
>>>     Security: public (Regular issues)   Components: buildsystem      
>>> Versions: 1.1        Reporter: David Jencks
>>>  Assigned to: David Jencks      Fix For: 1.1
>>>
>>>
>>> modify the assembly plugin to not create the bogus empty unused 
>>> obsolete config-store directory
>>>
>>
>>
> 
> 

Re: user-apps directory

Posted by Dave Colasurdo <da...@earthlink.net>.
Keeping with the theme of talking to myself..

I guess it is simpler to just change the groupid in the sample 
deployment plans to user-apps.  Of course users are free to specify any 
groupid they want .. but the default in the sample plans that we provide 
(including our documentation) will result in the user applications being 
separated from the geronimo plumbing by naming convention without any 
code impact..

-Dave-


Dave Colasurdo wrote:
> This reminds me of a topic from a few weeks ago..  Is there a JIRA open 
> to address separating the end user applications from the geronimo 
> internal plumbing?
> 
> Specifically, /Geronimo-1.1/repository/geronimo/ seems like a strange 
> spot for end user applications.  Searching for deployed applications 
> seems a bit like looking for a needle in the haystack.
> 
>  /Geronimo-1.1/repository/ has nearly 40 directories
>  /Geronimo-1.1/repository/geronimo has nearly 70 directories.
> 
> How about a simple /Geronimo-1.1/user-apps/ that contains only deployed 
> user applications?
> 
> Thanks
> -Dave-
> 
> David Jencks (JIRA) wrote:
>> remove config-store directories from assemblies, now that they aren't 
>> used any more
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 
>>
>>
>>          Key: GERONIMO-1932
>>          URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-1932
>>      Project: Geronimo
>>         Type: Bug
>>     Security: public (Regular issues)   Components: buildsystem      
>> Versions: 1.1        Reporter: David Jencks
>>  Assigned to: David Jencks      Fix For: 1.1
>>
>>
>> modify the assembly plugin to not create the bogus empty unused 
>> obsolete config-store directory
>>
> 
>