[NOISE] Licenses (was: Re: [jBoss-Dev] Re: jboss on tomcat update)

[Jon Stevens <jo...@latchkey.com>]

on 10/28/2000 4:46 PM, "marc fleury" <ma...@telkel.com> wrote:

> |That is how you interpret it, not how RMS interprets it.
> 
> I have a license and the wording is clear.
> What people say he said isn't the question.
> 
> |I cannot take Tomcat and combine it with JBoss and make a
> |distribution of it
> |that is available from Apache.org because JBoss is under a GPL license.
> |Period.
> 
> again that is an ASF decision (clean tree policy), not a license problem per
> se.

Huh? The clean tree policy is completely related to the license problems of
the GPL.

> |Marc, I'm definitely not afraid to tell you what I think and I'm tired of
> |discussing it. I'm burnt out on this war. It is completely stupid and it
> |looks like you are going to have to get yourself burnt before you see the
> |light. Sigh.
> 
> wow, religious overtones...  you are going to "burn me to see the light".
> 
> You and what army, Torquemada?

I'm not going to burn you. I didn't say that at all. I leave my quote above
so that you can re-read it again and maybe understand it the second time you
read it.

> |The only solution for you is to choose a NON GPL license for JBoss such as
> |MPL, BSD or APL. Period. You have no other choice unless you want to
> |completely loose control of JBoss and have all of your hard excellent work
> |completely ignored.
> 
> the *only* final solution to what problem?
> the fact we can't live in your tree? well heck 60% of the world's OSS code
> lives in GPL...

Again, you repeat this 60% value that has absolutely no context or any proof
to back it up. Wake up, not everything is GPL.

> we already integrate, repeat, we already integrate!!!!

No, you integrate with us because our license allows you to. We cannot
integrate with you. That is where you don't quite get it.

> |I just went through this same exact stupid war with Justin Wells for nearly
> |4 months over WebMacro and he ended up releasing WM under the APL license
> |after he saw us take away his control of his product by producing a far
> |superior product under a APL license.
> 
> hee hee threats...
> And you wonder why we are happy doing things our way...

Not a threat at all. It is a factual statement of what happened and I'm
warning you that you will probably have something similar happen to your
product.

Good luck.

-jon