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[Tom Jordahl <to...@macromedia.com>]

o?G?AXIS 1.2 Release Plan (Was: RE: Moving toward Axis 1.2
	 beta and release)
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 11:28:56 -0500
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Yeah, we are pretty lame about finalizing 1.2, but at least we have been in
RC forever, as opposed to beta like a few other projects that I was used.

I agree with Dims that the RC's are pretty much like releases.  I would like
to say that we will pick up the pace of 1.x releases, but I don't think we
will.  Having the TCK tests be able to run will go a looong way to making
1.3 easier to finalize.

--
Tom Jordahl
Macromedia Server Development

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Davanum Srinivas [mailto:davanum@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, January 14, 2005 11:02 AM
> To: axis-dev@ws.apache.org
> Subject: Re: AXIS 1.2 Release Plan (Was: RE: Moving toward Axis 1.2 beta
> and release)
> 
> Arent,
> 
> If u ask me, if we did not have to run the TCK's. each of the RC's are
> a release by themselves. On the plus side, we've finally automated
> running the TCK (starting from scratch on a box that has nothing on it
> :). So things should improve from now on. Once folks get back from
> their W3C meetings downunder, you should see a RC (the final one)
> 
> -- dims
> 
> On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 16:13:17 +0100, Banck, Arent-Jan
> <aj...@informatica.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hmm missed the 1 year 1.2 anniversary.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Tony Opatha [mailto:topatha@yahoo.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2003 9:25 PM
> > To: axis-dev@ws.apache.org; dims@yahoo.com; tomj@macromedia.com;
> > iasandcb@tmax.co.kr
> > Cc: axis-user@ws.apache.org; glen@thoughtcraft.com
> > Subject: AXIS 1.2 Release Plan (Was: RE: Moving toward Axis 1.2 beta and
> > release)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I think it is extremely important that we release:
> >
> > 0) AXIS 1.2 Beta by early Jan. '04
> >
> > 1) AXIS 1.2 Final Release by mid-Jan. '04
> >
> > 2) AXIS 1.3 Release by mid-Feb to mid-March '04
> >
> > AXIS 1.2 should be bug-fix release of AXIS 1.1 such that we have minimal
> > code changes in AXIS 1.1-based web services applications and clients.
> >
> > AXIS 1.3 should be a WS-I BP 1.0 conformant release. The sooner we can
> get a
> > beta and/or alpha version of AXIS 1.3 with BP enhancements it would be
> > useful for the AXIS dev community to test with other WS-I BP 1.0
> conforming
> > run-times. If there are some known bug-fixes that will help in AXIS 1.3
> BP
> > 1.0 conformance, I would recommend that they be included in AXIS 1.2.
> >
> > These dates seem to echo the discussions in attached e-mail.
> >
> > Hence, may we get some clarification from AXIS 1.2 release coordinator
> that
> > we can stick to above dates?
> >
> > Is there an AXIS 1.2 Beta distribution currently available? The earlier
> we
> > get that, the easier it will be to test it to confirm its stability.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> >
> > From: Davanum Srinivas [mailto:dims@yahoo.com]
> >
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 3:19 AM
> >
> > To: axis-dev@ws.apache.org
> >
> > Subject: Re: Moving toward Axis 1.2 beta and release
> >
> >
> >
> > At the end of the day, it's Glen's call as the Release Manager. Am +1 to
> 1.2
> > Mid Jan and 1.3 soon
> >
> > after with BP. Right now the major crunch is running the TCK's.
> >
> > thanks,
> >
> > dims
> >
> > --- Glen Daniels <gl...@thoughtcraft.com> wrote:
> >
> > > To tell you the truth, I would prefer that we didn't delay the
> release.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > "Bug fixes" in the 1.2 case include vastly improved document/literal
> >
> > > support, way faster WSDL processing, more logical type handling,
> support
> > for
> >
> > > Servlet 2.3 and session lifecycle events, cleaner code with better
> JavaDoc
> >
> > > and fewer dead lines.... and that's not even all. Seems like enough
> for a
> >
> > > release to me.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > I am very concerned tha
> >
> > t if we hold off we will get into a long cycle of
> >
> > > delays (as has happened before) which will hold this up until March or
> >
> > > April, and I'd frankly rather move towards releases earlier and more
> often
> >
> > > until we get the bug count down at least into the double digits.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > So I'm not in any way against working on all this stuff (and more
> > besides),
> >
> > > but I'd like to get 1.2 out in mid-January as planned, and I'd be more
> > than
> >
> > > happy with a BP-compliant 1.3 in March or so.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > --Glen
> >
> > >
> >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> >
> > > From: "Tom Jordahl" <to...@macromedia.com>
> >
> > > To: <ax...@ws.apache.org>
> >
> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 4:14 PM
> >
> > > Subject: RE: Moving toward Axis 1.2 beta and release
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > In talking with folks around here, we would be in favor of delaying
> the
> >
> > > 1.2
> >
> > > > release until we can claim WS-I Basic Profile 1.0 conformance.
> > Macromedia
> >
> > > > would be willing to help out with testing resources for this effort.
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > It will be late January before there are resources here to run the
> TCK,
> >
> > > and
> >
> > > > we would very much like to get BP 1.0 as a feature of the 1.2
> release.
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > The question I was asked is "What does 1.2 give me?" "Bug fixes"
> wasn't
> >
> > > > thought to be very compelling, while "WS-I BP 1.0 conformance" is
> >
> > > something
> >
> > > > that gets a much better reaction.
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > What do you think?
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > --
> >
> > > > Tom Jordahl
> >
> > > > Macromedia Server Development
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> >
> > > > From: Tom Jordahl [mailto:tomj@macromedia.com]
> >
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 10:28 AM
> >
> > > > To: 'axis-dev@ws.apache.org'
> >
> > > > Subject: Moving toward Axis 1.2 beta and release
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > Here is a proposal (discussed with Dims) about how Axis 1.2 should
> > proceed
> >
> > > > to move toward a 1.2 release.
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > - Create Axis 1.2 beta in the next 3 weeks
> >
> > > > - After beta, run the JAX-RPC/SAAJ TCK 1.1 and resolve failures
> >
> > > > - After we pass the TCK, we release 1.2
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > I am trying to get commitments from our teams here to run our JRun
> and
> >
> > > > ColdFusion regressions on the current 1.2 bits. And I will attempt
> to
> > get
> >
> > > > resources to execute the TCKs (on JRun) here as well.
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > Comments?
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > Can anyone else run the TCK at their organization?
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > --
> >
> > > > Tom Jordahl
> >
> > > > Macromedia Server Development
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > >
> >
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> 
> --
> Davanum Srinivas - http://webservices.apache.org/~dims/