RE: Borland, Fujitsu, HP, IONA, Nokia, and Oracle voted with Sun tolock Open Source out of Java.

[GOMEZ Henri <hg...@slib.fr>]

apart Fujitsu, did you ever see these corps in oss ?

As usually Sun take the bad decision, at the bad moment.

.NET/C# is emerging and try to attract OSS talents.

They feel they are strong enough today to have to continue
with oss community and that only majors firms will give
them the necessary user base.

What will be the next step ? Make you pay JDK ?

Did they decive us ? May be ? 

May be it's really time to see if the next standards
(for oss) should came from jcp, or from more open groups ?

I was just thinking about log4j case, which is an excellent
piece of code but wasn't use in latest jdk.

But you know what ? People use log4j because it came from
Apache and is synonim of quality.

So who should decide of next standards and apis for oss ?
w3c, ASF, exolab, enhydra but certainly no more jcp.
 
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Re: Borland, Fujitsu, HP, IONA, Nokia, and Oracle voted with Sun tolock Open Source out of Java.

[Pier Fumagalli <pi...@betaversion.org>]

"GOMEZ Henri" <hg...@slib.fr> wrote:

> So who should decide of next standards and apis for oss ?
> w3c,

Good candidate... Too bad that they don't own the word "JAVA".

> ASF,

We don't do API, we do products FWIW... This major shift should be a thing
to be seriously considered by the members....

> exolab,

After a long association with them I hope... NOT!

> enhydra

Not their focus...

> but certainly no more jcp.

Why not? That's all the Foundation is fighting for ATM... Complaining about
things like that will not change the world in which we are living in... What
the Foundation is doing is _right_, and thanks to the invaluable
contributions of people such as Jason Hunter, James Duncan Davidson, Sam
Ruby, Chuck Murcho we can say that we're slowly getting there...

Complaining on a mailing list doesn't help, maybe suggesting being
propositive and active on another might...

    Pier


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