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Posted to dev@pdfbox.apache.org by Andreas Lehmkühler <an...@lehmi.de> on 2009/11/26 22:40:10 UTC
Upgrading PDFBox to Java 5?
Hi,
what about upgrading to Java 5 with the upcoming 1.0 version?
We haven't talked much about that, but I think we should. Jukka tried to start a
discussion on [1], but no one jumped in. A long time ago (august 2008) there was
already some discussion [2] and Jeremias mentioned that he still has to use java
1.4. because of a customer who isn't able to upgrade his environment.
I think everybody might know the advantages of upgrading to Java 5
- Java 1.4 reached EOL in october 2008
- all those new java features like autoboxing, generics etc.
- third party libs used by pdfbox will upgrade/have upgraded to java 5 (e.g. lucene)
- there are some contributions to pdfbox using java 5 stuff, which have to be
converted before we can add them to the source
- ...
So, what do you think about that? Jeremias do you still rely on java 1.4
compliance, perhaps someone else?
BR
Andreas Lehmkühler
[1] http://markmail.org/message/aqvxuuz3yqx5327x
[2] http://markmail.org/thread/h4m5nw4bmz2nrciq
Re: Upgrading PDFBox to Java 5?
Posted by Andreas Lehmkühler <an...@lehmi.de>.
Hi,
Andreas Lehmkühler wrote:
> Hi,
>
> what about upgrading to Java 5 with the upcoming 1.0 version?
I guess we have a lazy consensus on upgrading pdfbox to use java 5 features and
therefore I filed an issue on jira [1].
> We haven't talked much about that, but I think we should. Jukka tried to
> start a discussion on [1], but no one jumped in. A long time ago (august
> 2008) there was already some discussion [2] and Jeremias mentioned that
> he still has to use java 1.4. because of a customer who isn't able to
> upgrade his environment.
>
> I think everybody might know the advantages of upgrading to Java 5
>
> - Java 1.4 reached EOL in october 2008
> - all those new java features like autoboxing, generics etc.
> - third party libs used by pdfbox will upgrade/have upgraded to java 5
> (e.g. lucene)
> - there are some contributions to pdfbox using java 5 stuff, which have
> to be converted before we can add them to the source
> - ...
>
> So, what do you think about that? Jeremias do you still rely on java 1.4
> compliance, perhaps someone else?
>
> BR
> Andreas Lehmkühler
>
> [1] http://markmail.org/message/aqvxuuz3yqx5327x
> [2] http://markmail.org/thread/h4m5nw4bmz2nrciq
BR
Andreas Lehmkühler
[1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PDFBOX-572
RE: Upgrading PDFBox to Java 5?
Posted by "Martinez, Mel - 1004 - MITLL" <m....@ll.mit.edu>.
+1
I pretty much concur with Jukka's comments. We deploy on 6 (finally) and it would not hurt me to require it, but I'm fine with only moving PDFBox development to 5.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jukka Zitting [mailto:jukka.zitting@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 8:00 AM
To: dev@pdfbox.apache.org
Subject: Re: Upgrading PDFBox to Java 5?
Hi,
On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 1:55 PM, Philipp Koch <ph...@day.com> wrote:
> i am all for java 5 but not for java 6.
+1
I would highly recommend using Java 6 instead of Java 5 for
deployment, but I don't see much benefit in actually requiring it. All
the nice new language features and most of the relevant library
improvements we get already from Java 5.
BR,
Jukka Zitting
Re: Upgrading PDFBox to Java 5?
Posted by Jukka Zitting <ju...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 1:55 PM, Philipp Koch <ph...@day.com> wrote:
> i am all for java 5 but not for java 6.
+1
I would highly recommend using Java 6 instead of Java 5 for
deployment, but I don't see much benefit in actually requiring it. All
the nice new language features and most of the relevant library
improvements we get already from Java 5.
BR,
Jukka Zitting
Re: Upgrading PDFBox to Java 5?
Posted by Philipp Koch <ph...@day.com>.
i am all for java 5 but not for java 6.
regards,
philipp
On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 1:45 PM, Daniel Wilson
<wi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>Since even Java 5 has reached EOL this month
>
> In that case, should we actually be looking at a move to Java 6?
>
> Daniel
>
> On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 2:13 AM, Jeremias Maerki <de...@jeremias-maerki.ch>wrote:
>
>> I'll have to ask my clients what the current situation is. Some of them
>> are quite slow to move on. Since even Java 5 has reached EOL this month
>> (notice that this is always Sun's EOL in terms of how support is handled),
>> I guess there are not so many reasons to keep Java 1.4 up. From a
>> developer's point of view the decision is clear. It's always the view
>> from a larger company for whom it's more difficult to make a Java
>> upgrade, that lets me act conservatively. But given on how broad a front
>> the moves from Java 1.4 to 5 are happening, I'm a +0.9 for a switch to
>> Java 5. ;-) Those still on Java 1.4 simply have to get into their gear
>> and finally do their homework if they want to keep up with new releases.
>>
>> On 26.11.2009 22:40:10 Andreas Lehmkühler wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > what about upgrading to Java 5 with the upcoming 1.0 version?
>> >
>> > We haven't talked much about that, but I think we should. Jukka tried to
>> start a
>> > discussion on [1], but no one jumped in. A long time ago (august 2008)
>> there was
>> > already some discussion [2] and Jeremias mentioned that he still has to
>> use java
>> > 1.4. because of a customer who isn't able to upgrade his environment.
>> >
>> > I think everybody might know the advantages of upgrading to Java 5
>> >
>> > - Java 1.4 reached EOL in october 2008
>> > - all those new java features like autoboxing, generics etc.
>> > - third party libs used by pdfbox will upgrade/have upgraded to java 5
>> (e.g. lucene)
>> > - there are some contributions to pdfbox using java 5 stuff, which have
>> to be
>> > converted before we can add them to the source
>> > - ...
>> >
>> > So, what do you think about that? Jeremias do you still rely on java 1.4
>> > compliance, perhaps someone else?
>> >
>> > BR
>> > Andreas Lehmkühler
>> >
>> > [1] http://markmail.org/message/aqvxuuz3yqx5327x
>> > [2] http://markmail.org/thread/h4m5nw4bmz2nrciq
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Jeremias Maerki
>>
>>
>
Re: Upgrading PDFBox to Java 5?
Posted by Ad...@swmc.com.
+1 for updating to Java 5 or 6
--Adam
From:
Daniel Wilson <wi...@gmail.com>
To:
dev@pdfbox.apache.org
Date:
11/27/2009 04:46
Subject:
Re: Upgrading PDFBox to Java 5?
>>Since even Java 5 has reached EOL this month
In that case, should we actually be looking at a move to Java 6?
Daniel
On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 2:13 AM, Jeremias Maerki
<de...@jeremias-maerki.ch>wrote:
> I'll have to ask my clients what the current situation is. Some of them
> are quite slow to move on. Since even Java 5 has reached EOL this month
> (notice that this is always Sun's EOL in terms of how support is
handled),
> I guess there are not so many reasons to keep Java 1.4 up. From a
> developer's point of view the decision is clear. It's always the view
> from a larger company for whom it's more difficult to make a Java
> upgrade, that lets me act conservatively. But given on how broad a front
> the moves from Java 1.4 to 5 are happening, I'm a +0.9 for a switch to
> Java 5. ;-) Those still on Java 1.4 simply have to get into their gear
> and finally do their homework if they want to keep up with new releases.
>
> On 26.11.2009 22:40:10 Andreas Lehmkühler wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > what about upgrading to Java 5 with the upcoming 1.0 version?
> >
> > We haven't talked much about that, but I think we should. Jukka tried
to
> start a
> > discussion on [1], but no one jumped in. A long time ago (august 2008)
> there was
> > already some discussion [2] and Jeremias mentioned that he still has
to
> use java
> > 1.4. because of a customer who isn't able to upgrade his environment.
> >
> > I think everybody might know the advantages of upgrading to Java 5
> >
> > - Java 1.4 reached EOL in october 2008
> > - all those new java features like autoboxing, generics etc.
> > - third party libs used by pdfbox will upgrade/have upgraded to java 5
> (e.g. lucene)
> > - there are some contributions to pdfbox using java 5 stuff, which
have
> to be
> > converted before we can add them to the source
> > - ...
> >
> > So, what do you think about that? Jeremias do you still rely on java
1.4
> > compliance, perhaps someone else?
> >
> > BR
> > Andreas Lehmkühler
> >
> > [1] http://markmail.org/message/aqvxuuz3yqx5327x
> > [2] http://markmail.org/thread/h4m5nw4bmz2nrciq
>
>
>
>
> Jeremias Maerki
>
>
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Re: Upgrading PDFBox to Java 5?
Posted by Daniel Wilson <wi...@gmail.com>.
>>Since even Java 5 has reached EOL this month
In that case, should we actually be looking at a move to Java 6?
Daniel
On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 2:13 AM, Jeremias Maerki <de...@jeremias-maerki.ch>wrote:
> I'll have to ask my clients what the current situation is. Some of them
> are quite slow to move on. Since even Java 5 has reached EOL this month
> (notice that this is always Sun's EOL in terms of how support is handled),
> I guess there are not so many reasons to keep Java 1.4 up. From a
> developer's point of view the decision is clear. It's always the view
> from a larger company for whom it's more difficult to make a Java
> upgrade, that lets me act conservatively. But given on how broad a front
> the moves from Java 1.4 to 5 are happening, I'm a +0.9 for a switch to
> Java 5. ;-) Those still on Java 1.4 simply have to get into their gear
> and finally do their homework if they want to keep up with new releases.
>
> On 26.11.2009 22:40:10 Andreas Lehmkühler wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > what about upgrading to Java 5 with the upcoming 1.0 version?
> >
> > We haven't talked much about that, but I think we should. Jukka tried to
> start a
> > discussion on [1], but no one jumped in. A long time ago (august 2008)
> there was
> > already some discussion [2] and Jeremias mentioned that he still has to
> use java
> > 1.4. because of a customer who isn't able to upgrade his environment.
> >
> > I think everybody might know the advantages of upgrading to Java 5
> >
> > - Java 1.4 reached EOL in october 2008
> > - all those new java features like autoboxing, generics etc.
> > - third party libs used by pdfbox will upgrade/have upgraded to java 5
> (e.g. lucene)
> > - there are some contributions to pdfbox using java 5 stuff, which have
> to be
> > converted before we can add them to the source
> > - ...
> >
> > So, what do you think about that? Jeremias do you still rely on java 1.4
> > compliance, perhaps someone else?
> >
> > BR
> > Andreas Lehmkühler
> >
> > [1] http://markmail.org/message/aqvxuuz3yqx5327x
> > [2] http://markmail.org/thread/h4m5nw4bmz2nrciq
>
>
>
>
> Jeremias Maerki
>
>
Re: Upgrading PDFBox to Java 5?
Posted by Jeremias Maerki <de...@jeremias-maerki.ch>.
I'll have to ask my clients what the current situation is. Some of them
are quite slow to move on. Since even Java 5 has reached EOL this month
(notice that this is always Sun's EOL in terms of how support is handled),
I guess there are not so many reasons to keep Java 1.4 up. From a
developer's point of view the decision is clear. It's always the view
from a larger company for whom it's more difficult to make a Java
upgrade, that lets me act conservatively. But given on how broad a front
the moves from Java 1.4 to 5 are happening, I'm a +0.9 for a switch to
Java 5. ;-) Those still on Java 1.4 simply have to get into their gear
and finally do their homework if they want to keep up with new releases.
On 26.11.2009 22:40:10 Andreas Lehmkühler wrote:
> Hi,
>
> what about upgrading to Java 5 with the upcoming 1.0 version?
>
> We haven't talked much about that, but I think we should. Jukka tried to start a
> discussion on [1], but no one jumped in. A long time ago (august 2008) there was
> already some discussion [2] and Jeremias mentioned that he still has to use java
> 1.4. because of a customer who isn't able to upgrade his environment.
>
> I think everybody might know the advantages of upgrading to Java 5
>
> - Java 1.4 reached EOL in october 2008
> - all those new java features like autoboxing, generics etc.
> - third party libs used by pdfbox will upgrade/have upgraded to java 5 (e.g. lucene)
> - there are some contributions to pdfbox using java 5 stuff, which have to be
> converted before we can add them to the source
> - ...
>
> So, what do you think about that? Jeremias do you still rely on java 1.4
> compliance, perhaps someone else?
>
> BR
> Andreas Lehmkühler
>
> [1] http://markmail.org/message/aqvxuuz3yqx5327x
> [2] http://markmail.org/thread/h4m5nw4bmz2nrciq
Jeremias Maerki
Re: Upgrading PDFBox to Java 5?
Posted by Yonas Jongkind <yo...@gmail.com>.
I am wildly in favor of converting to Java 5.
Y.
Life is good!
2009/11/26 Andreas Lehmkühler <an...@lehmi.de>
> Hi,
>
> what about upgrading to Java 5 with the upcoming 1.0 version?
>
> We haven't talked much about that, but I think we should. Jukka tried to
> start a discussion on [1], but no one jumped in. A long time ago (august
> 2008) there was already some discussion [2] and Jeremias mentioned that he
> still has to use java 1.4. because of a customer who isn't able to upgrade
> his environment.
>
> I think everybody might know the advantages of upgrading to Java 5
>
> - Java 1.4 reached EOL in october 2008
> - all those new java features like autoboxing, generics etc.
> - third party libs used by pdfbox will upgrade/have upgraded to java 5
> (e.g. lucene)
> - there are some contributions to pdfbox using java 5 stuff, which have to
> be converted before we can add them to the source
> - ...
>
> So, what do you think about that? Jeremias do you still rely on java 1.4
> compliance, perhaps someone else?
>
> BR
> Andreas Lehmkühler
>
> [1] http://markmail.org/message/aqvxuuz3yqx5327x
> [2] http://markmail.org/thread/h4m5nw4bmz2nrciq
>