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Update to ICLA to include github id
I propose to modify the ICLA to include the submitter's github id. These days, with GitHub, projects propose new committers and all they really know about them is the contributors' github id. This sometimes makes it challenging for Secretary to find the corresponding PMC vote, which delays things. If the github id is included in the ICLA, it's much easier to verify the project and the status of the contributor.
Craig
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Re: Update to ICLA to include github id
Posted by Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org>.
On Sat, May 8, 2021 at 8:57 PM Dave Fisher <wa...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> What’s the ask here? Once someone has an Apache id then they can map their ids using id.Apache.org? They also need to enable 2FA in GitHub.
>
> While more awkward any committer can use gitbox.com.
>
> Maybe, submitting an ICLA should also be requesting an apacheid?
FWIW -- the above is exactly what I'm confused about as well.
Thanks,
Roman.
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Re: Update to ICLA to include github id
Posted by Dave Fisher <wa...@apache.org>.
What’s the ask here? Once someone has an Apache id then they can map their ids using id.Apache.org? They also need to enable 2FA in GitHub.
While more awkward any committer can use gitbox.com.
Maybe, submitting an ICLA should also be requesting an apacheid?
Regards,
Dave
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> On May 8, 2021, at 7:21 PM, Craig Russell <ap...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Roman,
>
> I understand that GitHub now recommends (not enforced) that people use a single GitHub id for all of their interactions on the service, and to specifically delete all accounts except for the one account. They can then merge the deleted accounts to their one account.
>
> [So this is different from Google mail accounts, which Google encourages folks to have multiple accounts for different purposes.]
>
> If people have multiple GitHub accounts, the one on the ICLA would be the one that they plan to have associated with their Apache id in future.
>
> Apache will only allow an Apache id to be associated with one GitHub id so I think we are ok there. Happy to have operations verify this.
>
> Craig
>
>> On May 8, 2021, at 6:45 PM, Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, May 8, 2021 at 6:03 PM Craig Russell <ap...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I propose to modify the ICLA to include the submitter's github id. These days, with GitHub, projects propose new committers and all they really know about them is the contributors' github id. This sometimes makes it challenging for Secretary to find the corresponding PMC vote, which delays things. If the github id is included in the ICLA, it's much easier to verify the project and the status of the contributor.
>>
>> My immediate reaction: which one of half a dozed GH IDs do you mean?
>> (and yes, people have been train to segregate between different
>> employees, organizations, etc.)
>>
>> Also, I'm really not quite sure what verification step knowing ONE of
>> these IDs would help. Can you please elaborate?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Roman.
>>
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Re: Update to ICLA to include github id
Posted by Ismaël Mejía <ie...@gmail.com>.
+1 for optional Github Id
On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 3:07 PM Sheng Wu <wu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> +0.2 to have ONLY optional GitHub ID on the ICLA.
> As an account of a commercial vendor, I don't think all of the contributors
> would always use the same GitHub IDs,
> Sometimes, they change before they don't want people to know what they were
> doing in OSS. Or they just simply forget the ID/password.
>
> If this was starting from helping the secretary, why don't we recommend the
> PMCs to share the private mail list perm list when sending the invitation?
> And provide an ICLA submission mail template to include this link for the
> secretary?
>
> Sheng Wu 吴晟
> Twitter, wusheng1108
>
>
> Mike Drob <md...@apache.org> 于2021年5月10日周一 下午8:50写道：
>
> > -1 the ICLA is a document that lives forever in our records and I’m much
> > less confident in the permanence of GH ids
> >
> > On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 4:12 AM Jarek Potiuk <ja...@potiuk.com> wrote:
> >
> > > +1 for optional Github Id
> > >
> > > On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 11:08 AM Willem Jiang <wi...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > +1 to make it optional.
> > > >
> > > > Willem Jiang
> > > >
> > > > Twitter: willemjiang
> > > > Weibo: 姜宁willem
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 4:32 PM Bertrand Delacretaz
> > > > <bd...@apache.org> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sun, May 9, 2021 at 5:47 AM Justin Mclean <
> > justin@classsoftware.com
> > > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > ...Since recent projects trend to use GitHub and GitHub names
> > instead
> > > > of real
> > > > > > names. It can make it hard to match ICLAs to real people so I
> think
> > > it
> > > > > > makes sense to have it on the ICLA form. Best to probably make it
> > > > optional
> > > > > > as not everyone have a GitHub account...
> > > > >
> > > > > I agree that an optional GitHub username field might be useful but
> > IMO
> > > > > making it optional is a MUST.
> > > > >
> > > > > Requiring someone to have a GitHub account before they can get an
> > > > > Apache ID would be very wrong.
> > > > >
> > > > > -Bertrand
> > > > >
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Re: Update to ICLA to include github id
Posted by Matt Sicker <bo...@gmail.com>.
PMCs can already use the account request form directly with a link to
the vote thread. That doesn't help when the person submitting the ICLA
doesn't have one on file yet. It doesn't help when I get an ICLA
without a project and userid included. It doesn't help when PMCs make
vote threads for new committers using their GitHub username instead of
a real name. These are the general problems being solved here as far
as I can tell.
On Mon, 10 May 2021 at 08:07, Sheng Wu <wu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> +0.2 to have ONLY optional GitHub ID on the ICLA.
> As an account of a commercial vendor, I don't think all of the contributors
> would always use the same GitHub IDs,
> Sometimes, they change before they don't want people to know what they were
> doing in OSS. Or they just simply forget the ID/password.
>
> If this was starting from helping the secretary, why don't we recommend the
> PMCs to share the private mail list perm list when sending the invitation?
> And provide an ICLA submission mail template to include this link for the
> secretary?
>
> Sheng Wu 吴晟
> Twitter, wusheng1108
>
>
> Mike Drob <md...@apache.org> 于2021年5月10日周一 下午8:50写道：
>
> > -1 the ICLA is a document that lives forever in our records and I’m much
> > less confident in the permanence of GH ids
> >
> > On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 4:12 AM Jarek Potiuk <ja...@potiuk.com> wrote:
> >
> > > +1 for optional Github Id
> > >
> > > On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 11:08 AM Willem Jiang <wi...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > +1 to make it optional.
> > > >
> > > > Willem Jiang
> > > >
> > > > Twitter: willemjiang
> > > > Weibo: 姜宁willem
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 4:32 PM Bertrand Delacretaz
> > > > <bd...@apache.org> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sun, May 9, 2021 at 5:47 AM Justin Mclean <
> > justin@classsoftware.com
> > > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > ...Since recent projects trend to use GitHub and GitHub names
> > instead
> > > > of real
> > > > > > names. It can make it hard to match ICLAs to real people so I think
> > > it
> > > > > > makes sense to have it on the ICLA form. Best to probably make it
> > > > optional
> > > > > > as not everyone have a GitHub account...
> > > > >
> > > > > I agree that an optional GitHub username field might be useful but
> > IMO
> > > > > making it optional is a MUST.
> > > > >
> > > > > Requiring someone to have a GitHub account before they can get an
> > > > > Apache ID would be very wrong.
> > > > >
> > > > > -Bertrand
> > > > >
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Re: Update to ICLA to include github id
Posted by Sheng Wu <wu...@gmail.com>.
+0.2 to have ONLY optional GitHub ID on the ICLA.
As an account of a commercial vendor, I don't think all of the contributors
would always use the same GitHub IDs,
Sometimes, they change before they don't want people to know what they were
doing in OSS. Or they just simply forget the ID/password.
If this was starting from helping the secretary, why don't we recommend the
PMCs to share the private mail list perm list when sending the invitation?
And provide an ICLA submission mail template to include this link for the
secretary?
Sheng Wu 吴晟
Twitter, wusheng1108
Mike Drob <md...@apache.org> 于2021年5月10日周一 下午8:50写道：
> -1 the ICLA is a document that lives forever in our records and I’m much
> less confident in the permanence of GH ids
>
> On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 4:12 AM Jarek Potiuk <ja...@potiuk.com> wrote:
>
> > +1 for optional Github Id
> >
> > On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 11:08 AM Willem Jiang <wi...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > +1 to make it optional.
> > >
> > > Willem Jiang
> > >
> > > Twitter: willemjiang
> > > Weibo: 姜宁willem
> > >
> > > On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 4:32 PM Bertrand Delacretaz
> > > <bd...@apache.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, May 9, 2021 at 5:47 AM Justin Mclean <
> justin@classsoftware.com
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > > > > ...Since recent projects trend to use GitHub and GitHub names
> instead
> > > of real
> > > > > names. It can make it hard to match ICLAs to real people so I think
> > it
> > > > > makes sense to have it on the ICLA form. Best to probably make it
> > > optional
> > > > > as not everyone have a GitHub account...
> > > >
> > > > I agree that an optional GitHub username field might be useful but
> IMO
> > > > making it optional is a MUST.
> > > >
> > > > Requiring someone to have a GitHub account before they can get an
> > > > Apache ID would be very wrong.
> > > >
> > > > -Bertrand
> > > >
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Re: Update to ICLA to include github id
Posted by Mike Drob <md...@apache.org>.
-1 the ICLA is a document that lives forever in our records and I’m much
less confident in the permanence of GH ids
On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 4:12 AM Jarek Potiuk <ja...@potiuk.com> wrote:
> +1 for optional Github Id
>
> On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 11:08 AM Willem Jiang <wi...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > +1 to make it optional.
> >
> > Willem Jiang
> >
> > Twitter: willemjiang
> > Weibo: 姜宁willem
> >
> > On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 4:32 PM Bertrand Delacretaz
> > <bd...@apache.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Sun, May 9, 2021 at 5:47 AM Justin Mclean <justin@classsoftware.com
> >
> > wrote:
> > > > ...Since recent projects trend to use GitHub and GitHub names instead
> > of real
> > > > names. It can make it hard to match ICLAs to real people so I think
> it
> > > > makes sense to have it on the ICLA form. Best to probably make it
> > optional
> > > > as not everyone have a GitHub account...
> > >
> > > I agree that an optional GitHub username field might be useful but IMO
> > > making it optional is a MUST.
> > >
> > > Requiring someone to have a GitHub account before they can get an
> > > Apache ID would be very wrong.
> > >
> > > -Bertrand
> > >
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Re: Update to ICLA to include github id
Posted by Jarek Potiuk <ja...@potiuk.com>.
+1 for optional Github Id
On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 11:08 AM Willem Jiang <wi...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> +1 to make it optional.
>
> Willem Jiang
>
> Twitter: willemjiang
> Weibo: 姜宁willem
>
> On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 4:32 PM Bertrand Delacretaz
> <bd...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Sun, May 9, 2021 at 5:47 AM Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>
> wrote:
> > > ...Since recent projects trend to use GitHub and GitHub names instead
> of real
> > > names. It can make it hard to match ICLAs to real people so I think it
> > > makes sense to have it on the ICLA form. Best to probably make it
> optional
> > > as not everyone have a GitHub account...
> >
> > I agree that an optional GitHub username field might be useful but IMO
> > making it optional is a MUST.
> >
> > Requiring someone to have a GitHub account before they can get an
> > Apache ID would be very wrong.
> >
> > -Bertrand
> >
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Re: Update to ICLA to include github id
Posted by Willem Jiang <wi...@gmail.com>.
+1 to make it optional.
Willem Jiang
Twitter: willemjiang
Weibo: 姜宁willem
On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 4:32 PM Bertrand Delacretaz
<bd...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> On Sun, May 9, 2021 at 5:47 AM Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com> wrote:
> > ...Since recent projects trend to use GitHub and GitHub names instead of real
> > names. It can make it hard to match ICLAs to real people so I think it
> > makes sense to have it on the ICLA form. Best to probably make it optional
> > as not everyone have a GitHub account...
>
> I agree that an optional GitHub username field might be useful but IMO
> making it optional is a MUST.
>
> Requiring someone to have a GitHub account before they can get an
> Apache ID would be very wrong.
>
> -Bertrand
>
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Re: Update to ICLA to include github id
Posted by Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@apache.org>.
On Sun, May 9, 2021 at 5:47 AM Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com> wrote:
> ...Since recent projects trend to use GitHub and GitHub names instead of real
> names. It can make it hard to match ICLAs to real people so I think it
> makes sense to have it on the ICLA form. Best to probably make it optional
> as not everyone have a GitHub account...
I agree that an optional GitHub username field might be useful but IMO
making it optional is a MUST.
Requiring someone to have a GitHub account before they can get an
Apache ID would be very wrong.
-Bertrand
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Re: Update to ICLA to include github id
Posted by Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>.
Hi,
Since recent projects trend to use GitHub and GitHub names instead of real
names. It can make it hard to match ICLAs to real people so I think it
makes sense to have it on the ICLA form. Best to probably make it optional
as not everyone have a GitHub account.
Thanks
Justin
On Sun, 9 May 2021, 12:21 pm Craig Russell, <ap...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Roman,
>
> I understand that GitHub now recommends (not enforced) that people use a
> single GitHub id for all of their interactions on the service, and to
> specifically delete all accounts except for the one account. They can then
> merge the deleted accounts to their one account.
>
> [So this is different from Google mail accounts, which Google encourages
> folks to have multiple accounts for different purposes.]
>
> If people have multiple GitHub accounts, the one on the ICLA would be the
> one that they plan to have associated with their Apache id in future.
>
> Apache will only allow an Apache id to be associated with one GitHub id so
> I think we are ok there. Happy to have operations verify this.
>
> Craig
>
> > On May 8, 2021, at 6:45 PM, Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > On Sat, May 8, 2021 at 6:03 PM Craig Russell <ap...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> I propose to modify the ICLA to include the submitter's github id.
> These days, with GitHub, projects propose new committers and all they
> really know about them is the contributors' github id. This sometimes makes
> it challenging for Secretary to find the corresponding PMC vote, which
> delays things. If the github id is included in the ICLA, it's much easier
> to verify the project and the status of the contributor.
> >
> > My immediate reaction: which one of half a dozed GH IDs do you mean?
> > (and yes, people have been train to segregate between different
> > employees, organizations, etc.)
> >
> > Also, I'm really not quite sure what verification step knowing ONE of
> > these IDs would help. Can you please elaborate?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Roman.
> >
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>
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> clr@apache.org
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Re: Update to ICLA to include github id
Posted by Willem Jiang <wi...@gmail.com>.
On Sun, May 9, 2021 at 12:10 PM Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org> wrote:
>
> On Sat, May 8, 2021 at 7:21 PM Craig Russell <ap...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Roman,
> >
> > I understand that GitHub now recommends (not enforced) that people use a single
> > GitHub id for all of their interactions on the service, and to specifically delete all
> > accounts except for the one account. They can then merge the deleted accounts
> > to their one account.
>
> Where is this coming from? Do you have a URL? I'm simply asking because it goes
> directly against most employer's recommendations that I know of.
>
> > [So this is different from Google mail accounts, which Google encourages folks to have multiple accounts for different purposes.]
> >
> > If people have multiple GitHub accounts, the one on the ICLA would be the one that they plan to have associated with their Apache id in future.
> >
> > Apache will only allow an Apache id to be associated with one GitHub id so I think we are ok there. Happy to have operations verify this.
>
> There's a LOT of things to unpack here, but I'm still not sure what
> problem are we trying to solve.
I think it is quite useful for the new podling project.
As the contributor or the initial committer doesn't have Apache id at
that time, using the github id could help us track the contribution
in the first place.
>
> Thanks,
> Roman.
>
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Re: Update to ICLA to include github id
Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.
Note that LDAP currently allows for multiple githubUsername entries,
as does Whimsy.
There are over 60 people with more than 1 entry listed.
On Sun, 9 May 2021 at 05:16, Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com> wrote:
>
> https://docs.github.com/en/github/setting-up-and-managing-your-github-user-account/merging-multiple-user-accounts
>
> On Sun, 9 May 2021, 2:10 pm Roman Shaposhnik, <ro...@shaposhnik.org> wrote:
>
> > On Sat, May 8, 2021 at 7:21 PM Craig Russell <ap...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Roman,
> > >
> > > I understand that GitHub now recommends (not enforced) that people use a
> > single
> > > GitHub id for all of their interactions on the service, and to
> > specifically delete all
> > > accounts except for the one account. They can then merge the deleted
> > accounts
> > > to their one account.
> >
> > Where is this coming from? Do you have a URL? I'm simply asking because it
> > goes
> > directly against most employer's recommendations that I know of.
> >
> > > [So this is different from Google mail accounts, which Google encourages
> > folks to have multiple accounts for different purposes.]
> > >
> > > If people have multiple GitHub accounts, the one on the ICLA would be
> > the one that they plan to have associated with their Apache id in future.
> > >
> > > Apache will only allow an Apache id to be associated with one GitHub id
> > so I think we are ok there. Happy to have operations verify this.
> >
> > There's a LOT of things to unpack here, but I'm still not sure what
> > problem are we trying to solve.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Roman.
> >
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Re: Update to ICLA to include github id
Posted by Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>.
https://docs.github.com/en/github/setting-up-and-managing-your-github-user-account/merging-multiple-user-accounts
On Sun, 9 May 2021, 2:10 pm Roman Shaposhnik, <ro...@shaposhnik.org> wrote:
> On Sat, May 8, 2021 at 7:21 PM Craig Russell <ap...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Roman,
> >
> > I understand that GitHub now recommends (not enforced) that people use a
> single
> > GitHub id for all of their interactions on the service, and to
> specifically delete all
> > accounts except for the one account. They can then merge the deleted
> accounts
> > to their one account.
>
> Where is this coming from? Do you have a URL? I'm simply asking because it
> goes
> directly against most employer's recommendations that I know of.
>
> > [So this is different from Google mail accounts, which Google encourages
> folks to have multiple accounts for different purposes.]
> >
> > If people have multiple GitHub accounts, the one on the ICLA would be
> the one that they plan to have associated with their Apache id in future.
> >
> > Apache will only allow an Apache id to be associated with one GitHub id
> so I think we are ok there. Happy to have operations verify this.
>
> There's a LOT of things to unpack here, but I'm still not sure what
> problem are we trying to solve.
>
> Thanks,
> Roman.
>
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Re: Update to ICLA to include github id
Posted by Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org>.
On Sat, May 8, 2021 at 7:21 PM Craig Russell <ap...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Roman,
>
> I understand that GitHub now recommends (not enforced) that people use a single
> GitHub id for all of their interactions on the service, and to specifically delete all
> accounts except for the one account. They can then merge the deleted accounts
> to their one account.
Where is this coming from? Do you have a URL? I'm simply asking because it goes
directly against most employer's recommendations that I know of.
> [So this is different from Google mail accounts, which Google encourages folks to have multiple accounts for different purposes.]
>
> If people have multiple GitHub accounts, the one on the ICLA would be the one that they plan to have associated with their Apache id in future.
>
> Apache will only allow an Apache id to be associated with one GitHub id so I think we are ok there. Happy to have operations verify this.
There's a LOT of things to unpack here, but I'm still not sure what
problem are we trying to solve.
Thanks,
Roman.
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Re: Update to ICLA to include github id
Posted by Craig Russell <ap...@gmail.com>.
Hi Roman,
I understand that GitHub now recommends (not enforced) that people use a single GitHub id for all of their interactions on the service, and to specifically delete all accounts except for the one account. They can then merge the deleted accounts to their one account.
[So this is different from Google mail accounts, which Google encourages folks to have multiple accounts for different purposes.]
If people have multiple GitHub accounts, the one on the ICLA would be the one that they plan to have associated with their Apache id in future.
Apache will only allow an Apache id to be associated with one GitHub id so I think we are ok there. Happy to have operations verify this.
Craig
> On May 8, 2021, at 6:45 PM, Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org> wrote:
>
> On Sat, May 8, 2021 at 6:03 PM Craig Russell <ap...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I propose to modify the ICLA to include the submitter's github id. These days, with GitHub, projects propose new committers and all they really know about them is the contributors' github id. This sometimes makes it challenging for Secretary to find the corresponding PMC vote, which delays things. If the github id is included in the ICLA, it's much easier to verify the project and the status of the contributor.
>
> My immediate reaction: which one of half a dozed GH IDs do you mean?
> (and yes, people have been train to segregate between different
> employees, organizations, etc.)
>
> Also, I'm really not quite sure what verification step knowing ONE of
> these IDs would help. Can you please elaborate?
>
> Thanks,
> Roman.
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Re: Update to ICLA to include github id
Posted by Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org>.
On Sat, May 8, 2021 at 6:03 PM Craig Russell <ap...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I propose to modify the ICLA to include the submitter's github id. These days, with GitHub, projects propose new committers and all they really know about them is the contributors' github id. This sometimes makes it challenging for Secretary to find the corresponding PMC vote, which delays things. If the github id is included in the ICLA, it's much easier to verify the project and the status of the contributor.
My immediate reaction: which one of half a dozed GH IDs do you mean?
(and yes, people have been train to segregate between different
employees, organizations, etc.)
Also, I'm really not quite sure what verification step knowing ONE of
these IDs would help. Can you please elaborate?
Thanks,
Roman.
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Re: Update to ICLA to include github id
Posted by Matthew Sacks <ma...@matthewsacks.com>.
I'm for this generally but what about committers without a github? IE
gitlab, bitbucket, etc?
On Sat, May 8, 2021 at 6:03 PM Craig Russell <ap...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I propose to modify the ICLA to include the submitter's github id. These
> days, with GitHub, projects propose new committers and all they really know
> about them is the contributors' github id. This sometimes makes it
> challenging for Secretary to find the corresponding PMC vote, which delays
> things. If the github id is included in the ICLA, it's much easier to
> verify the project and the status of the contributor.
>
> Craig
>
> Craig L Russell
> clr@apache.org
>
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Thank you, Matthew