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Podling Crail Report Reminder - March 2020

Dear podling,

This email was sent by an automated system on behalf of the Apache
Incubator PMC. It is an initial reminder to give you plenty of time to
prepare your quarterly board report.

The board meeting is scheduled for Wed, 18 March 2020, 10:30 am PDT.
The report for your podling will form a part of the Incubator PMC
report. The Incubator PMC requires your report to be submitted 2 weeks
before the board meeting, to allow sufficient time for review and
submission (Wed, March 04).

Please submit your report with sufficient time to allow the Incubator
PMC, and subsequently board members to review and digest. Again, the
very latest you should submit your report is 2 weeks prior to the board
meeting.

Candidate names should not be made public before people are actually
elected, so please do not include the names of potential committers or
PPMC members in your report.

Thanks,

The Apache Incubator PMC

Submitting your Report

----------------------

Your report should contain the following:

*   Your project name
*   A brief description of your project, which assumes no knowledge of
    the project or necessarily of its field
*   A list of the three most important issues to address in the move
    towards graduation.
*   Any issues that the Incubator PMC or ASF Board might wish/need to be
    aware of
*   How has the community developed since the last report
*   How has the project developed since the last report.
*   How does the podling rate their own maturity.

This should be appended to the Incubator Wiki page at:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/March2020

Note: This is manually populated. You may need to wait a little before
this page is created from a template.

Note: The format of the report has changed to use markdown.

Mentors
-------

Mentors should review reports for their project(s) and sign them off on
the Incubator wiki page. Signing off reports shows that you are
following the project - projects that are not signed may raise alarms
for the Incubator PMC.

Incubator PMC

Re: Podling Crail Report Reminder - March 2020

Posted by bernard metzler <bm...@gmx.ch>.
On 3/2/2020 9:54 PM, Julian Hyde wrote:
> Pretty much everything is appropriate for the dev list. (The main
> exception being "personnel matters", e.g. voting for new committers.)
> Even banal coordination, like "I've written the report but can't seem
> to post it. Here it is. Can y'all review? Jonas, can you post it for
> me?" belongs on the list. The dev list is the town square (or the
> local coffee shop) of a project.
>

Thanks Julian, got your point.
Let's improve that.

Bernard.



> On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 12:41 PM bernard metzler <bm...@gmx.ch> wrote:
>>
>> On 3/2/2020 7:33 PM, Julian Hyde wrote:
>>> Thanks for getting the report done on time.
>>>
>>> Next time, consider doing it everything on the dev list. It may seem
>>> like a small thing, but Jonas and Bernard are clearly talking in a
>>> back-channel, and that is alienating to the rest of us on dev. We
>>> start wondering how much else we are missing.
>>>
>>> Julian
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 7:05 AM bernard metzler <bm...@gmx.ch> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 3/2/2020 15:55, Jonas Pfefferle wrote:
>>>>> Bernard wrote the new podling report and I just added it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Jonas
>>>>>
>>>> Thanks Jonas! I lost my Confluence password, and reset attempts
>>>> are currently ending up in 'internal error'.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Bernard.
>>>>
>> Hi Julian, you are saying we shall better discuss the
>>  content on dev
>> before entering the report?
>>
>> Would make lots of sense to me. I asked that myself, but I was unsure
>> if that's appropriate.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Bernard.


Re: Podling Crail Report Reminder - March 2020

Posted by Julian Hyde <jh...@apache.org>.
Pretty much everything is appropriate for the dev list. (The main
exception being "personnel matters", e.g. voting for new committers.)
Even banal coordination, like "I've written the report but can't seem
to post it. Here it is. Can y'all review? Jonas, can you post it for
me?" belongs on the list. The dev list is the town square (or the
local coffee shop) of a project.

On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 12:41 PM bernard metzler <bm...@gmx.ch> wrote:
>
> On 3/2/2020 7:33 PM, Julian Hyde wrote:
> > Thanks for getting the report done on time.
> >
> > Next time, consider doing it everything on the dev list. It may seem
> > like a small thing, but Jonas and Bernard are clearly talking in a
> > back-channel, and that is alienating to the rest of us on dev. We
> > start wondering how much else we are missing.
> >
> > Julian
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 7:05 AM bernard metzler <bm...@gmx.ch> wrote:
> >>
> >> On 3/2/2020 15:55, Jonas Pfefferle wrote:
> >>> Bernard wrote the new podling report and I just added it.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Jonas
> >>>
> >> Thanks Jonas! I lost my Confluence password, and reset attempts
> >> are currently ending up in 'internal error'.
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >> Bernard.
> >>
> Hi Julian, you are saying we shall better discuss the
>  content on dev
> before entering the report?
>
> Would make lots of sense to me. I asked that myself, but I was unsure
> if that's appropriate.
>
> Thanks,
> Bernard.

Re: Podling Crail Report Reminder - March 2020

Posted by bernard metzler <bm...@gmx.ch>.
On 3/2/2020 7:33 PM, Julian Hyde wrote:
> Thanks for getting the report done on time.
>
> Next time, consider doing it everything on the dev list. It may seem
> like a small thing, but Jonas and Bernard are clearly talking in a
> back-channel, and that is alienating to the rest of us on dev. We
> start wondering how much else we are missing.
>
> Julian
>
> On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 7:05 AM bernard metzler <bm...@gmx.ch> wrote:
>>
>> On 3/2/2020 15:55, Jonas Pfefferle wrote:
>>> Bernard wrote the new podling report and I just added it.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Jonas
>>>
>> Thanks Jonas! I lost my Confluence password, and reset attempts
>> are currently ending up in 'internal error'.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Bernard.
>>
Hi Julian, you are saying we shall better discuss the
 content on dev
before entering the report?

Would make lots of sense to me. I asked that myself, but I was unsure
if that's appropriate.

Thanks,
Bernard.

Re: Podling Crail Report Reminder - March 2020

Posted by Julian Hyde <jh...@apache.org>.
Thanks for getting the report done on time.

Next time, consider doing it everything on the dev list. It may seem
like a small thing, but Jonas and Bernard are clearly talking in a
back-channel, and that is alienating to the rest of us on dev. We
start wondering how much else we are missing.

Julian

On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 7:05 AM bernard metzler <bm...@gmx.ch> wrote:
>
> On 3/2/2020 15:55, Jonas Pfefferle wrote:
> > Bernard wrote the new podling report and I just added it.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Jonas
> >
> Thanks Jonas! I lost my Confluence password, and reset attempts
> are currently ending up in 'internal error'.
>
> Thanks
> Bernard.
>

Re: Podling Crail Report Reminder - March 2020

Posted by bernard metzler <bm...@gmx.ch>.
On 3/2/2020 15:55, Jonas Pfefferle wrote:
> Bernard wrote the new podling report and I just added it.
>
> Thanks,
> Jonas
>
Thanks Jonas! I lost my Confluence password, and reset attempts
are currently ending up in 'internal error'.

Thanks
Bernard.


Re: Podling Crail Report Reminder - March 2020

Posted by Jonas Pfefferle <pe...@japf.ch>.
Bernard wrote the new podling report and I just added it.

Thanks,
Jonas

  On Sun, 1 Mar 2020 17:54:39 -0800
  Julian Hyde <jh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Can someone volunteer to write this? In order to submit by Thursday, 
>let’s get a draft onto dev by Monday or Tuesday. 
> 
> Julian
> 
>> On Mar 1, 2020, at 12:10, jmclean@apache.org wrote:
>> 
>> Dear podling,
>> 
>> This email was sent by an automated system on behalf of the Apache
>> Incubator PMC. It is an initial reminder to give you plenty of time 
>>to
>> prepare your quarterly board report.
>> 
>> The board meeting is scheduled for Wed, 18 March 2020, 10:30 am PDT.
>> The report for your podling will form a part of the Incubator PMC
>> report. The Incubator PMC requires your report to be submitted 2 
>>weeks
>> before the board meeting, to allow sufficient time for review and
>> submission (Wed, March 04).
>> 
>> Please submit your report with sufficient time to allow the 
>>Incubator
>> PMC, and subsequently board members to review and digest. Again, the
>> very latest you should submit your report is 2 weeks prior to the 
>>board
>> meeting.
>> 
>> Candidate names should not be made public before people are actually
>> elected, so please do not include the names of potential committers 
>>or
>> PPMC members in your report.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> The Apache Incubator PMC
>> 
>> Submitting your Report
>> 
>> ----------------------
>> 
>> Your report should contain the following:
>> 
>> *   Your project name
>> *   A brief description of your project, which assumes no knowledge 
>>of
>>    the project or necessarily of its field
>> *   A list of the three most important issues to address in the move
>>    towards graduation.
>> *   Any issues that the Incubator PMC or ASF Board might wish/need 
>>to be
>>    aware of
>> *   How has the community developed since the last report
>> *   How has the project developed since the last report.
>> *   How does the podling rate their own maturity.
>> 
>> This should be appended to the Incubator Wiki page at:
>> 
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/March2020
>> 
>> Note: This is manually populated. You may need to wait a little 
>>before
>> this page is created from a template.
>> 
>> Note: The format of the report has changed to use markdown.
>> 
>> Mentors
>> -------
>> 
>> Mentors should review reports for their project(s) and sign them off 
>>on
>> the Incubator wiki page. Signing off reports shows that you are
>> following the project - projects that are not signed may raise 
>>alarms
>> for the Incubator PMC.
>> 
>> Incubator PMC



Re: Podling Crail Report Reminder - March 2020

Posted by Julian Hyde <jh...@gmail.com>.
Can someone volunteer to write this? In order to submit by Thursday, let’s get a draft onto dev by Monday or Tuesday. 

Julian

> On Mar 1, 2020, at 12:10, jmclean@apache.org wrote:
> 
> Dear podling,
> 
> This email was sent by an automated system on behalf of the Apache
> Incubator PMC. It is an initial reminder to give you plenty of time to
> prepare your quarterly board report.
> 
> The board meeting is scheduled for Wed, 18 March 2020, 10:30 am PDT.
> The report for your podling will form a part of the Incubator PMC
> report. The Incubator PMC requires your report to be submitted 2 weeks
> before the board meeting, to allow sufficient time for review and
> submission (Wed, March 04).
> 
> Please submit your report with sufficient time to allow the Incubator
> PMC, and subsequently board members to review and digest. Again, the
> very latest you should submit your report is 2 weeks prior to the board
> meeting.
> 
> Candidate names should not be made public before people are actually
> elected, so please do not include the names of potential committers or
> PPMC members in your report.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> The Apache Incubator PMC
> 
> Submitting your Report
> 
> ----------------------
> 
> Your report should contain the following:
> 
> *   Your project name
> *   A brief description of your project, which assumes no knowledge of
>    the project or necessarily of its field
> *   A list of the three most important issues to address in the move
>    towards graduation.
> *   Any issues that the Incubator PMC or ASF Board might wish/need to be
>    aware of
> *   How has the community developed since the last report
> *   How has the project developed since the last report.
> *   How does the podling rate their own maturity.
> 
> This should be appended to the Incubator Wiki page at:
> 
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/March2020
> 
> Note: This is manually populated. You may need to wait a little before
> this page is created from a template.
> 
> Note: The format of the report has changed to use markdown.
> 
> Mentors
> -------
> 
> Mentors should review reports for their project(s) and sign them off on
> the Incubator wiki page. Signing off reports shows that you are
> following the project - projects that are not signed may raise alarms
> for the Incubator PMC.
> 
> Incubator PMC