Interested in GSOC

[lee yun <yu...@gmail.com>]

Kathey Marsden:

Nice to write to you!  I'm a prospective GSOC student from China. I'm glad
to see Derby has been accepted as a mentor organization for this year's
GSOC, and you are the mentor for the subject "derby-testandfix ".
Congratulations!

After having travelled around the links about Derby provided on the wiki
page of SummerOfCode2009 on Apache, I would love to devote this summer on
Derby project.

I'm familiar with java and TDD which I insist on in my development, and I
still wonder:

1. What's the main part of code about Derby in GSOC, the kernel engine or
the outside utils?

2. Are there any other mentors? I have just seen only yourself in the mentor
list, may I know what's your favorite time period for this program.

3. Which skills is needed in the task, Junit, java, and anything else?

4. It's said, "Small projects and incremental check-ins mean your code can
make an impact right away and you have a wide choice of code areas to focus
on." Does it mean I will get access control of  the VCS  for Derby?

5. Besides java, should we use python in coding? Few months ago, I have
touched this language, and fallen in love with this language and would like
to improve my skills on python in development.

6. What can I do before I apply? Any necessary  documents for my future
work?

Thanks for your reply!

Best Regards
Yun Lee

Re: Interested in GSOC

[yun lee <yu...@gmail.com>]

Kathey:

Thanks for your welcome and advices! They are useful!

2009/3/21 Kathey Marsden <km...@sbcglobal.net>:
> lee yun wrote:
>>
>> Kathey Marsden:
>>
>> Nice to write to you!  I'm a prospective GSOC student from China. I'm
glad
>> to see Derby has been accepted as a mentor organization for this year's
>> GSOC, and you are the mentor for the subject "derby-testandfix ".
>> Congratulations!
>
> Thank you for your interest in GSoC and Derby!
>>
>> After having travelled around the links about Derby provided on the wiki
>> page of SummerOfCode2009 on Apache, I would love to devote this summer on
>> Derby project.
>>
>> I'm familiar with java and TDD which I insist on in my development, and I
>> still wonder:
>>
>> 1. What's the main part of code about Derby in GSOC, the kernel engine or
>> the outside utils?
>>
> You can choose an area of interest, but I recommend you start with one or
> two of the newcomer bugs so that you can get experience with setting up
your
> build and test environment, interacting with the community and submitting
> patches.
>
https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=true&&pid=10594&customfield_12310200=Newcomer&resolution=-1&sorter/field=issuekey&sorter/order=DESC

It's useful, I will adopt it to get involved.

>
> Have you studied database in school or have experience with databases?

As a post graduate on CS, I have studied database, and done some MIS
projects with sql server.  However, I haven't developed a project on a
database itself before, Derby will be the first one----- an exciting touch!

>>
>> 2. Are there any other mentors? I have just seen only yourself in the
>> mentor list, may I know what's your favorite time period for this
program.
>>
> There are two other projects and mentors listed at
> http://wiki.apache.org/general/SummerOfCode2009#derby-project
> but I am the only mentor for the fixandtest project.   If you have done an
> in depth study of database in school, you might find the
> derby-optimizerFixes project interesting as well.
>

Yes, I have found the other two now,  The subject
'derby-sequence-generators' has been accepted by the last year's GSOCer
Suran Jayathilaka  as school project. The subject 'derby-optimizerFixes'
seems more challenging, and I also like it. It prompts, " The successful
applicant for this project should have already demonstrated familiar with
the Derby development process (for example, by contributing fixes to
existing Derby issues), and should present a proposal which substantiates
the applicants willingness and ability to work on an intricate piece of
software." As what you suggested, I will build the working framework and run
Derby on my computer first, then I will chose some simple issue to work on,
with these experiences I can make a proper choice.

>
> By time period, do you mean time of day?
> For that I am usually available M-F 9-5 PDT, sometimes earlier, sometimes
> later.   You can usually find me on the derby IRC channel
> irc://freenode/derby during that time.

As I live in Beijing, +700 UTC,  e-mail maybe will be our main interactive
tool.:)

>
> You should subscribe to the Derby mailing lists
> http://db.apache.org/derby/derby_mail.html
> and can ask technical questions there any time of day.

I have subscribe it!

>
>> 3. Which skills is needed in the task, Junit, java, and anything else?
>
> Java, junit, and some database study or experience would be good.
>
>> 0
>> 4. It's said, "Small projects and incremental check-ins mean your code
can
>> make an impact right away and you have a wide choice of code areas to
focus
>> on." Does it mean I will get access control of  the VCS  for Derby?
>>
> You will post patches to Jira and a committer will review them and commit
> your work to the repository.
>>
>> 5. Besides java, should we use python in coding? Few months ago, I have
>> touched this language, and fallen in love with this language and would
like
>> to improve my skills on python in development.
>>
> Sorry, no python opportunities that I can think of in Derby.
>>
>> 6. What can I do before I apply? Any necessary  documents for my future
>> work?
>>
> You should get involved in the community and show that you can build and
> test Derby and contribute.  See the following web page and wiki for
> information on getting started.
> http://db.apache.org/derby/derby_comm.html
>
http://wiki.apache.org/db-derby/DerbyDev#head-afd6437de673800ea92ef5384c45bbb0d9abfc4a
>
> In your application call out specific issues you would like to work on and
> what work you have already done on Derby.    Please let me know your
> background with databases and I can recommend some issues. Also let me
know
> if you would like me to review your application.

I will submit my application for this GSOC after I finish some issues and
notify you right then. Thanks again for your help and encourage!

>
> Welcome !
>
> Kathey
>
>

Best regards

Yun

Re: Interested in GSOC

[Kathey Marsden <km...@sbcglobal.net>]

lee yun wrote:
> Kathey Marsden:
>
> Nice to write to you!  I'm a prospective GSOC student from China. I'm 
> glad to see Derby has been accepted as a mentor organization for this 
> year's GSOC, and you are the mentor for the subject "derby-testandfix 
> ". Congratulations!
Thank you for your interest in GSoC and Derby!
>
> After having travelled around the links about Derby provided on the 
> wiki page of SummerOfCode2009 on Apache, I would love to devote this 
> summer on Derby project.
>
> I'm familiar with java and TDD which I insist on in my development, 
> and I still wonder:
>
> 1. What's the main part of code about Derby in GSOC, the kernel engine 
> or the outside utils?
>
You can choose an area of interest, but I recommend you start with one 
or two of the newcomer bugs so that you can get experience with setting 
up your build and test environment, interacting with the community and 
submitting patches.
https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=true&&pid=10594&customfield_12310200=Newcomer&resolution=-1&sorter/field=issuekey&sorter/order=DESC

Have you studied database in school or have experience with databases? 

> 2. Are there any other mentors? I have just seen only yourself in the 
> mentor list, may I know what's your favorite time period for this program.
>
There are two other projects and mentors listed at 
http://wiki.apache.org/general/SummerOfCode2009#derby-project
but I am the only mentor for the fixandtest project.   If you have done 
an in depth study of database in school, you might find the 
derby-optimizerFixes project interesting as well.


 By time period, do you mean time of day?
For that I am usually available M-F 9-5 PDT, sometimes earlier, 
sometimes later.   You can usually find me on the derby IRC channel 
irc://freenode/derby during that time.

You should subscribe to the Derby mailing lists
http://db.apache.org/derby/derby_mail.html
 and can ask technical questions there any time of day.

> 3. Which skills is needed in the task, Junit, java, and anything else?

Java, junit, and some database study or experience would be good.

> 0
> 4. It's said, "Small projects and incremental check-ins mean your code 
> can make an impact right away and you have a wide choice of code areas 
> to focus on." Does it mean I will get access control of  the VCS  for 
> Derby?
>
You will post patches to Jira and a committer will review them and 
commit your work to the repository.
> 5. Besides java, should we use python in coding? Few months ago, I 
> have touched this language, and fallen in love with this language and 
> would like to improve my skills on python in development.
>
Sorry, no python opportunities that I can think of in Derby.
> 6. What can I do before I apply? Any necessary  documents for my 
> future work?
>
You should get involved in the community and show that you can build and 
test Derby and contribute.  See the following web page and wiki for 
information on getting started.
http://db.apache.org/derby/derby_comm.html
http://wiki.apache.org/db-derby/DerbyDev#head-afd6437de673800ea92ef5384c45bbb0d9abfc4a

In your application call out specific issues you would like to work on 
and what work you have already done on Derby.    Please let me know your 
background with databases and I can recommend some issues. Also let me 
know if you would like me to review your application.

Welcome !

Kathey