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Posted to dev@httpd.apache.org by Brandon Long <bl...@uiuc.edu> on 1995/12/08 02:46:46 UTC
Re: fairy nuff (fwd)
Beth asked me to forward this information to you, not sure if it'll help
much now . . .
>From our "OneStep" downloader, the following statistics for what was
downloaded apply. This doesn't include our ftp server, and since the
OneStep downloader is a hand-holder as it is, I expect the source
percentage is lower then otherwise.
Total: 4707 100
source: 683 14.5
aix 3.2.5: 225 4.8
hpux 9.0.5: 356 7.6
irix 4.0.5: 51 1.1
irix 5.3: 242 5.1
linux 1.2.13: 1441 30.6
osf 3.0: 121 2.6
solaris2.4_sparc: 660 14.0
solaris2.4_x86: 51 1.1
solaris2.3_sparc: 182 3.9
sunos 4.1.3: 610 13.6
ultrix 4.0: 85 1.8
Now, we don't have access to some machines which could be fairly
high downloaders, like BSD/OS, FreeBSD, and NetBSD. I know a lot of
the source downloaders are from random sysv compatible machines as well.
Brandon
----- Forwarded message from Beth Frank -----
Hi Brandon,
If we have any stats on how many binaries vs.
source are picked up would you please send it to the
apache list?
-Beth
Forwarded message:
> From: Rob Hartill <ha...@ooo.lanl.gov>
> Subject: Re: fairy nuff
> Date: Thu, 30 Nov 95 9:37:04 MST
>
> > Ok.
> > What's the problem that is holding us up?
> > The system binaries are a complete shambles. We should give up on them:
>
> No, but I agree with you that they needn't hold up the release of the
> source.
>
> > 1. Release of a 1.0.0 source distribution to go ahead now.
> > 2. Discussion of a binary release to proceed separately, with agreement on
> > binary distribution to be achieved by 1.1 at the latest.
> >
> > Thus I amend Rob's timetable as follows:
> > 1. Everyone stop building binaries now.
> > 2. We build a final source distribution (including manual) by tomorrow.
> > (Preferably by end of today.)
> > 3. We allow three working days for the distribution to be propogated to
> > mirror and archive (NCSA, sunsite) sites, and for the online documentation
> > to be finalised.
> > 4. We announce the new release.
> >
> > We shall do it my way, unless someone else can convince me their way
> > is better.
>
> I second this. +1
>
> Back to the binaries. My boss asked me the other day how popular
> Apache was (thinking 1.0 had been released weeks ago {hmm, I wonder
> where he got that idea from :-) }). He thought that NCSA would
> continue to dominate the server "market" because they offered binaries
> (which he knew we didn't (yet)).
>
> Binaries are needed. I've had direct requests for binaries. People do
> want them. Some bozo at HP was threatening to bad mouth Apache
> in his "small company" because he couldn't compile it and there wasn't
> a binary available for him to pick up. I shut that clown up, but if
> someone from HP can't use their own compiler, or find local help to
> compile the thing, you can imagine the trouble other bozos^H^H^H^H^Husers
> will face.
>
> It would be very interesting to find out how many people use the
> NCSA binaries. I doubt if there are any figures for this, and there's
> no way to check from Andy's (Netcraft's) server survey. Some time ago
> I suggested we name the binaries differently so that we could spot them
> using HEAD. Can we do this please?
>
> Apache 1.0.0*
> Apache 1.0.0x
> Apache 1.0.0(precompiled)
> Apache 1.0.0(binary)
>
> or something similar.
>
>
> rob
>
--
Elizabeth(Beth) Frank
NCSA Server Development Team
efrank@ncsa.uiuc.edu
----- End of forwarded message from Beth Frank -----
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