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Posted to dev@turbine.apache.org by "Gonzalo A. Diethelm" <go...@aditiva.com> on 2001/10/25 23:01:22 UTC

Java logging package

Has anybody looked into using or adapting Java's (1.4) standard
logging package into Turbine? Is this something desirable?

http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4/docs/guide/util/logging/overview.html


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Gonzalo A. Diethelm
gonzalo.diethelm@aditiva.com


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Re: Java logging package

Posted by Kasper Nielsen <ne...@kav.dk>.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gonzalo A. Diethelm" <go...@aditiva.com>
To: <tu...@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 11:01 PM
Subject: Java logging package


> Has anybody looked into using or adapting Java's (1.4) standard
> logging package into Turbine?

> Is this something desirable?
No!
This may come as a surprise but some people are not using the beta version
of jdk 1.4, and we need to make sure these people are also able to use
turbine.

- Kasper



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RE: Java logging package

Posted by Ilia Iourovitski <ii...@ydyn.com>.
jakarta-commons-sandbox/logging is going in this direction.
The main inconvenience of Toque using log4j is that Avalon/Cocoon is using
LogKit.

Ilia

-----Original Message-----
From: Jason van Zyl [mailto:jvanzyl@zenplex.com]
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 6:50 AM
To: turbine-dev@jakarta.apache.org
Subject: Re: Java logging package


On 10/25/01 5:01 PM, "Gonzalo A. Diethelm" <go...@aditiva.com>
wrote:

> Has anybody looked into using or adapting Java's (1.4) standard
> logging package into Turbine? Is this something desirable?
>
> http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4/docs/guide/util/logging/overview.html

I believe this will be possible with log4j, and I also believe that someone
has made a set of adapters so this will be possible.

But you must realize that many of the recent changes in the JSR  27 (logging
API) have been altered due to pressure by the log4j community. The APIs are
very close but I still feel that log4j is better. The logging API will also
require Java 1.4 which I don't feel many people will be prepared to jump to
immediately.

--

jvz.

Jason van Zyl

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Re: Java logging package

Posted by Jason van Zyl <jv...@zenplex.com>.
On 10/25/01 5:01 PM, "Gonzalo A. Diethelm" <go...@aditiva.com>
wrote:

> Has anybody looked into using or adapting Java's (1.4) standard
> logging package into Turbine? Is this something desirable?
> 
> http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4/docs/guide/util/logging/overview.html

I believe this will be possible with log4j, and I also believe that someone
has made a set of adapters so this will be possible.

But you must realize that many of the recent changes in the JSR  27 (logging
API) have been altered due to pressure by the log4j community. The APIs are
very close but I still feel that log4j is better. The logging API will also
require Java 1.4 which I don't feel many people will be prepared to jump to
immediately. 

-- 

jvz.

Jason van Zyl

http://tambora.zenplex.org
http://jakarta.apache.org/turbine
http://jakarta.apache.org/velocity
http://jakarta.apache.org/alexandria
http://jakarta.apache.org/commons



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Re: Java logging package

Posted by Jon Stevens <jo...@latchkey.com>.
on 10/25/01 2:01 PM, "Gonzalo A. Diethelm" <go...@aditiva.com>
wrote:

> Has anybody looked into using or adapting Java's (1.4) standard
> logging package into Turbine? Is this something desirable?
> 
> http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4/docs/guide/util/logging/overview.html
> 

On top of what Kasper said...

Please read:

http://jakarta.apache.org/log4j/docs/critique.html
http://jakarta.apache.org/log4j/docs/critique2.html

I would much rather support Log4J. There is no need to use the JDK 1.4
logging when we have the great Log4J project right under our noses. Eat your
own dog food.

-jon


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