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Posted to user@ofbiz.apache.org by Ashish Vijaywargiya <vi...@gmail.com> on 2010/02/15 09:40:07 UTC
Re: New OFBiz stable release
I think its time to start thinking on the things that should be taken
care in / before release branch 10.04.
Bug fixing should be the major area which should be taken care
extensively in next two months.
What about new features etc. etc.?
Please comment.
Thanks!
--
Ashish
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 6:47 AM, David E Jones <de...@me.com> wrote:
>
> There is no set date yet. The last release was in April 2009 (hence the version number of 09.04 on it), and the one before that was about 2 years before. Chances are it won't be another 2 years before another release, but probably at least a year... so perhaps we'll do another release branch in around 4 months.
>
> -David
>
>
> On Dec 14, 2009, at 3:37 PM, Juan Pablo wrote:
>
>> Hello Community.
>>
>> I'm testing the last trunk version and the demo version published in
>> Internet (http://demo.ofbiz.org). They've got new functionality: help on
>> line, new themes, new features in accounting, manufacturing and ordermgr
>> components. The last stable versión is actually 9.04. So, ¿When will Ofbiz
>> try a new stable release version?.
>>
>> Gracias/Thank You.
>>
>> --
>> Juan Pablo
>
>
Re: New OFBiz stable release
Posted by Erwan de FERRIERES <er...@nereide.fr>.
On 23/02/2010 05:11, Anil Patel wrote:
> So, are we set for next Ofbiz Branch named 10.04 ?
>
> If we decide on _date_, I can have a team of developers scheduled to start testing branch code. This will allow to quickly stabilize ofbiz release for common ecommerce use.
>
> How about EOD March 31st 10 GMT?
>
> Thanks and Regards
> Anil Patel
> HotWax Media Inc
> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz"
>
If we are planning on creating a new release, then the migration to
tomcat 6.0.24 should be included, as there was security issues.
<https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3424>
Also, if we have a new release, should we deprecate the 4.0 version ?
Cheers,
--
Erwan de FERRIERES
www.nereide.biz
Re: New OFBiz stable release
Posted by Matt Warnock <mw...@ridgecrestherbals.com>.
On Tue, 2010-04-06 at 16:48 -0400, Anil Patel wrote:
> Hi,
> We are into April 1020. How does everybody feel about creating new release branch 10.4?
Wow, I need to set my clock back 1000 years or so... Have you got a hot
tub time machine? Or was this sent by RFC 1149?
Sorry, just made me laugh... :)
>
> IMO, we should create one sooner then later.
>
> Thanks and Regards
> Anil Patel
> HotWax Media Inc
> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz"
>
> On Mar 21, 2010, at 2:45 AM, Ashish Vijaywargiya wrote:
>
> > Probably it will be created in the end of march or first week of April.
> >
> > --
> > Ashish
> >
> > On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 7:22 PM, james_sg <sn...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> Is OFBiz branch 10.04 on course?
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> James
> >>
> >>
> >> David E Jones-4 wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> One quick thing to note, that seems to be confused here: the release
> >>> branch is a tool for stabilization. It's great to do testing and fixing in
> >>> the trunk, but the goal for a release branch is not to be tested and
> >>> bug-free from day one, but rather to be stable so that real testing and
> >>> bug fixing can be done in the release branch without worrying about new
> >>> things possibly breaking something, or any other conflicting priorities.
> >>>
> >>> -David
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 1:22 PM, Anil Patel wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Makes sense to me. If we are decided on date, we still have a month to
> >>>> go. Gives plenty of time, may be :)
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks and Regards
> >>>> Anil Patel
> >>>> HotWax Media Inc
> >>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz"
> >>>>
> >>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 10:40 AM, Adrian Crum wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> It would be nice to get the new security code included in the branch -
> >>>>> even if it is disabled. That will give release users an introduction to
> >>>>> it and give them a chance to work on an upgrade strategy.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -Adrian
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Anil Patel wrote:
> >>>>>> So, are we set for next Ofbiz Branch named 10.04 ?
> >>>>>> If we decide on _date_, I can have a team of developers scheduled to
> >>>>>> start testing branch code. This will allow to quickly stabilize ofbiz
> >>>>>> release for common ecommerce use.
> >>>>>> How about EOD March 31st 10 GMT?
> >>>>>> Thanks and Regards
> >>>>>> Anil Patel
> >>>>>> HotWax Media Inc
> >>>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz"
> >>>>>> On Feb 15, 2010, at 6:40 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
> >>>>>>> I agree but after Jacopo's message on dev ML about new release
> >>>>>>> strategy (on which I mostly agree) I will at least delay it...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Jacques
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> From: "Bruno Busco" <br...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>> In order to have this kind of issue scheduling could you please
> >>>>>>>> create
> >>>>>>>> a new OFBIZ version in jira and set the Fix Version of these issue on
> >>>>>>>> that?
> >>>>>>>> I do not see any clearer way to answer to Ashish question.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> -Bruno
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> 2010/2/15 Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>:
> >>>>>>>>> I expect to fulfill
> >>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3442
> >>>>>>>>> and maybe
> >>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3445
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> In other word to use layer lookups instead of popup lookups
> >>>>>>>>> everywhere it's
> >>>>>>>>> possible in OFBiz.
> >>>>>>>>> From my 1st serie of tests it seems to work well almost everywhere,
> >>>>>>>>> WIP...
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Jacques
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> From: "Ashish Vijaywargiya" <vi...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>>> I think its time to start thinking on the things that should be
> >>>>>>>>>> taken
> >>>>>>>>>> care in / before release branch 10.04.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Bug fixing should be the major area which should be taken care
> >>>>>>>>>> extensively in next two months.
> >>>>>>>>>> What about new features etc. etc.?
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Please comment.
> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>> Ashish
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 6:47 AM, David E Jones <de...@me.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> There is no set date yet. The last release was in April 2009
> >>>>>>>>>>> (hence the
> >>>>>>>>>>> version number of 09.04 on it), and the one before that was about
> >>>>>>>>>>> 2 years
> >>>>>>>>>>> before. Chances are it won't be another 2 years before another
> >>>>>>>>>>> release, but
> >>>>>>>>>>> probably at least a year... so perhaps we'll do another release
> >>>>>>>>>>> branch in
> >>>>>>>>>>> around 4 months.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> -David
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 14, 2009, at 3:37 PM, Juan Pablo wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Community.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> I'm testing the last trunk version and the demo version published
> >>>>>>>>>>>> in
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Internet (http://demo.ofbiz.org). They've got new functionality:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> help on
> >>>>>>>>>>>> line, new themes, new features in accounting, manufacturing and
> >>>>>>>>>>>> ordermgr
> >>>>>>>>>>>> components. The last stable versión is actually 9.04. So, ¿When
> >>>>>>>>>>>> will
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Ofbiz
> >>>>>>>>>>>> try a new stable release version?.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Gracias/Thank You.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Juan Pablo
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> --
> >> View this message in context: http://n4.nabble.com/New-OFBiz-stable-release-tp963922p1675843.html
> >> Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
> >>
--
Matt Warnock <mw...@ridgecrestherbals.com>
RidgeCrest Herbals, Inc.
Re: New OFBiz stable release
Posted by Anil Patel <an...@hotwaxmedia.com>.
Hi,
We are into April 1020. How does everybody feel about creating new release branch 10.4?
IMO, we should create one sooner then later.
Thanks and Regards
Anil Patel
HotWax Media Inc
Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz"
On Mar 21, 2010, at 2:45 AM, Ashish Vijaywargiya wrote:
> Probably it will be created in the end of march or first week of April.
>
> --
> Ashish
>
> On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 7:22 PM, james_sg <sn...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Is OFBiz branch 10.04 on course?
>>
>> Regards,
>> James
>>
>>
>> David E Jones-4 wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> One quick thing to note, that seems to be confused here: the release
>>> branch is a tool for stabilization. It's great to do testing and fixing in
>>> the trunk, but the goal for a release branch is not to be tested and
>>> bug-free from day one, but rather to be stable so that real testing and
>>> bug fixing can be done in the release branch without worrying about new
>>> things possibly breaking something, or any other conflicting priorities.
>>>
>>> -David
>>>
>>>
>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 1:22 PM, Anil Patel wrote:
>>>
>>>> Makes sense to me. If we are decided on date, we still have a month to
>>>> go. Gives plenty of time, may be :)
>>>>
>>>> Thanks and Regards
>>>> Anil Patel
>>>> HotWax Media Inc
>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz"
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 10:40 AM, Adrian Crum wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> It would be nice to get the new security code included in the branch -
>>>>> even if it is disabled. That will give release users an introduction to
>>>>> it and give them a chance to work on an upgrade strategy.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Adrian
>>>>>
>>>>> Anil Patel wrote:
>>>>>> So, are we set for next Ofbiz Branch named 10.04 ?
>>>>>> If we decide on _date_, I can have a team of developers scheduled to
>>>>>> start testing branch code. This will allow to quickly stabilize ofbiz
>>>>>> release for common ecommerce use.
>>>>>> How about EOD March 31st 10 GMT?
>>>>>> Thanks and Regards
>>>>>> Anil Patel
>>>>>> HotWax Media Inc
>>>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz"
>>>>>> On Feb 15, 2010, at 6:40 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>>>>>> I agree but after Jacopo's message on dev ML about new release
>>>>>>> strategy (on which I mostly agree) I will at least delay it...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: "Bruno Busco" <br...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> In order to have this kind of issue scheduling could you please
>>>>>>>> create
>>>>>>>> a new OFBIZ version in jira and set the Fix Version of these issue on
>>>>>>>> that?
>>>>>>>> I do not see any clearer way to answer to Ashish question.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -Bruno
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2010/2/15 Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>:
>>>>>>>>> I expect to fulfill
>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3442
>>>>>>>>> and maybe
>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3445
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In other word to use layer lookups instead of popup lookups
>>>>>>>>> everywhere it's
>>>>>>>>> possible in OFBiz.
>>>>>>>>> From my 1st serie of tests it seems to work well almost everywhere,
>>>>>>>>> WIP...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> From: "Ashish Vijaywargiya" <vi...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> I think its time to start thinking on the things that should be
>>>>>>>>>> taken
>>>>>>>>>> care in / before release branch 10.04.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Bug fixing should be the major area which should be taken care
>>>>>>>>>> extensively in next two months.
>>>>>>>>>> What about new features etc. etc.?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Please comment.
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Ashish
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 6:47 AM, David E Jones <de...@me.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> There is no set date yet. The last release was in April 2009
>>>>>>>>>>> (hence the
>>>>>>>>>>> version number of 09.04 on it), and the one before that was about
>>>>>>>>>>> 2 years
>>>>>>>>>>> before. Chances are it won't be another 2 years before another
>>>>>>>>>>> release, but
>>>>>>>>>>> probably at least a year... so perhaps we'll do another release
>>>>>>>>>>> branch in
>>>>>>>>>>> around 4 months.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 14, 2009, at 3:37 PM, Juan Pablo wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Community.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm testing the last trunk version and the demo version published
>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>> Internet (http://demo.ofbiz.org). They've got new functionality:
>>>>>>>>>>>> help on
>>>>>>>>>>>> line, new themes, new features in accounting, manufacturing and
>>>>>>>>>>>> ordermgr
>>>>>>>>>>>> components. The last stable versión is actually 9.04. So, ¿When
>>>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ofbiz
>>>>>>>>>>>> try a new stable release version?.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Gracias/Thank You.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> Juan Pablo
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> View this message in context: http://n4.nabble.com/New-OFBiz-stable-release-tp963922p1675843.html
>> Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>
Re: New OFBiz stable release
Posted by Scott Gray <sc...@hotwaxmedia.com>.
I don't think the ordering is important, they are both valid and independent discussions to be having.
Regards
Scott
On 6/04/2010, at 3:01 PM, BJ Freeman wrote:
> my understanding we muse first get 9.04 to a full release before making
> a release candidate 10.4.
> there is discussion on the dev list
> Japaco ask for input on 9.04
>
> =========================
> BJ Freeman
> http://bjfreeman.elance.com
> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=93>
> Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/>
>
> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist
>
> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man
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>
>
> Anil Patel sent the following on 4/6/2010 1:48 PM:
>> Hi,
>> We are into April 1020. How does everybody feel about creating new release branch 10.4?
>>
>> IMO, we should create one sooner then later.
>>
>> Thanks and Regards
>> Anil Patel
>> HotWax Media Inc
>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz"
>>
>> On Mar 21, 2010, at 2:45 AM, Ashish Vijaywargiya wrote:
>>
>>> Probably it will be created in the end of march or first week of April.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Ashish
>>>
>>> On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 7:22 PM, james_sg <sn...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> Is OFBiz branch 10.04 on course?
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> James
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> David E Jones-4 wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> One quick thing to note, that seems to be confused here: the release
>>>>> branch is a tool for stabilization. It's great to do testing and fixing in
>>>>> the trunk, but the goal for a release branch is not to be tested and
>>>>> bug-free from day one, but rather to be stable so that real testing and
>>>>> bug fixing can be done in the release branch without worrying about new
>>>>> things possibly breaking something, or any other conflicting priorities.
>>>>>
>>>>> -David
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 1:22 PM, Anil Patel wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Makes sense to me. If we are decided on date, we still have a month to
>>>>>> go. Gives plenty of time, may be :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks and Regards
>>>>>> Anil Patel
>>>>>> HotWax Media Inc
>>>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 10:40 AM, Adrian Crum wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It would be nice to get the new security code included in the branch -
>>>>>>> even if it is disabled. That will give release users an introduction to
>>>>>>> it and give them a chance to work on an upgrade strategy.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Adrian
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anil Patel wrote:
>>>>>>>> So, are we set for next Ofbiz Branch named 10.04 ?
>>>>>>>> If we decide on _date_, I can have a team of developers scheduled to
>>>>>>>> start testing branch code. This will allow to quickly stabilize ofbiz
>>>>>>>> release for common ecommerce use.
>>>>>>>> How about EOD March 31st 10 GMT?
>>>>>>>> Thanks and Regards
>>>>>>>> Anil Patel
>>>>>>>> HotWax Media Inc
>>>>>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz"
>>>>>>>> On Feb 15, 2010, at 6:40 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>>>>>>>> I agree but after Jacopo's message on dev ML about new release
>>>>>>>>> strategy (on which I mostly agree) I will at least delay it...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> From: "Bruno Busco" <br...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> In order to have this kind of issue scheduling could you please
>>>>>>>>>> create
>>>>>>>>>> a new OFBIZ version in jira and set the Fix Version of these issue on
>>>>>>>>>> that?
>>>>>>>>>> I do not see any clearer way to answer to Ashish question.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -Bruno
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 2010/2/15 Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>:
>>>>>>>>>>> I expect to fulfill
>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3442
>>>>>>>>>>> and maybe
>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3445
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> In other word to use layer lookups instead of popup lookups
>>>>>>>>>>> everywhere it's
>>>>>>>>>>> possible in OFBiz.
>>>>>>>>>>> From my 1st serie of tests it seems to work well almost everywhere,
>>>>>>>>>>> WIP...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Ashish Vijaywargiya" <vi...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I think its time to start thinking on the things that should be
>>>>>>>>>>>> taken
>>>>>>>>>>>> care in / before release branch 10.04.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Bug fixing should be the major area which should be taken care
>>>>>>>>>>>> extensively in next two months.
>>>>>>>>>>>> What about new features etc. etc.?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Please comment.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ashish
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 6:47 AM, David E Jones <de...@me.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is no set date yet. The last release was in April 2009
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (hence the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> version number of 09.04 on it), and the one before that was about
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2 years
>>>>>>>>>>>>> before. Chances are it won't be another 2 years before another
>>>>>>>>>>>>> release, but
>>>>>>>>>>>>> probably at least a year... so perhaps we'll do another release
>>>>>>>>>>>>> branch in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> around 4 months.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 14, 2009, at 3:37 PM, Juan Pablo wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Community.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm testing the last trunk version and the demo version published
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Internet (http://demo.ofbiz.org). They've got new functionality:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> help on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> line, new themes, new features in accounting, manufacturing and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ordermgr
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> components. The last stable versión is actually 9.04. So, ¿When
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ofbiz
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> try a new stable release version?.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gracias/Thank You.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Juan Pablo
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> View this message in context: http://n4.nabble.com/New-OFBiz-stable-release-tp963922p1675843.html
>>>> Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>>>
>>
>>
>
>
Re: New OFBiz stable release
Posted by BJ Freeman <bj...@free-man.net>.
my understanding we muse first get 9.04 to a full release before making
a release candidate 10.4.
there is discussion on the dev list
Japaco ask for input on 9.04
=========================
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http://bjfreeman.elance.com
Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=93>
Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/>
Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist
Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man
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Anil Patel sent the following on 4/6/2010 1:48 PM:
> Hi,
> We are into April 1020. How does everybody feel about creating new release branch 10.4?
>
> IMO, we should create one sooner then later.
>
> Thanks and Regards
> Anil Patel
> HotWax Media Inc
> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz"
>
> On Mar 21, 2010, at 2:45 AM, Ashish Vijaywargiya wrote:
>
>> Probably it will be created in the end of march or first week of April.
>>
>> --
>> Ashish
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 7:22 PM, james_sg <sn...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Is OFBiz branch 10.04 on course?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> James
>>>
>>>
>>> David E Jones-4 wrote:
>>>>
>>>> One quick thing to note, that seems to be confused here: the release
>>>> branch is a tool for stabilization. It's great to do testing and fixing in
>>>> the trunk, but the goal for a release branch is not to be tested and
>>>> bug-free from day one, but rather to be stable so that real testing and
>>>> bug fixing can be done in the release branch without worrying about new
>>>> things possibly breaking something, or any other conflicting priorities.
>>>>
>>>> -David
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 1:22 PM, Anil Patel wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Makes sense to me. If we are decided on date, we still have a month to
>>>>> go. Gives plenty of time, may be :)
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks and Regards
>>>>> Anil Patel
>>>>> HotWax Media Inc
>>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz"
>>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 10:40 AM, Adrian Crum wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> It would be nice to get the new security code included in the branch -
>>>>>> even if it is disabled. That will give release users an introduction to
>>>>>> it and give them a chance to work on an upgrade strategy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Adrian
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anil Patel wrote:
>>>>>>> So, are we set for next Ofbiz Branch named 10.04 ?
>>>>>>> If we decide on _date_, I can have a team of developers scheduled to
>>>>>>> start testing branch code. This will allow to quickly stabilize ofbiz
>>>>>>> release for common ecommerce use.
>>>>>>> How about EOD March 31st 10 GMT?
>>>>>>> Thanks and Regards
>>>>>>> Anil Patel
>>>>>>> HotWax Media Inc
>>>>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz"
>>>>>>> On Feb 15, 2010, at 6:40 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>>>>>>> I agree but after Jacopo's message on dev ML about new release
>>>>>>>> strategy (on which I mostly agree) I will at least delay it...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> From: "Bruno Busco" <br...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> In order to have this kind of issue scheduling could you please
>>>>>>>>> create
>>>>>>>>> a new OFBIZ version in jira and set the Fix Version of these issue on
>>>>>>>>> that?
>>>>>>>>> I do not see any clearer way to answer to Ashish question.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -Bruno
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2010/2/15 Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>:
>>>>>>>>>> I expect to fulfill
>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3442
>>>>>>>>>> and maybe
>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3445
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> In other word to use layer lookups instead of popup lookups
>>>>>>>>>> everywhere it's
>>>>>>>>>> possible in OFBiz.
>>>>>>>>>> From my 1st serie of tests it seems to work well almost everywhere,
>>>>>>>>>> WIP...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> From: "Ashish Vijaywargiya" <vi...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> I think its time to start thinking on the things that should be
>>>>>>>>>>> taken
>>>>>>>>>>> care in / before release branch 10.04.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Bug fixing should be the major area which should be taken care
>>>>>>>>>>> extensively in next two months.
>>>>>>>>>>> What about new features etc. etc.?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Please comment.
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> Ashish
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 6:47 AM, David E Jones <de...@me.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> There is no set date yet. The last release was in April 2009
>>>>>>>>>>>> (hence the
>>>>>>>>>>>> version number of 09.04 on it), and the one before that was about
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2 years
>>>>>>>>>>>> before. Chances are it won't be another 2 years before another
>>>>>>>>>>>> release, but
>>>>>>>>>>>> probably at least a year... so perhaps we'll do another release
>>>>>>>>>>>> branch in
>>>>>>>>>>>> around 4 months.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 14, 2009, at 3:37 PM, Juan Pablo wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Community.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm testing the last trunk version and the demo version published
>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Internet (http://demo.ofbiz.org). They've got new functionality:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> help on
>>>>>>>>>>>>> line, new themes, new features in accounting, manufacturing and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ordermgr
>>>>>>>>>>>>> components. The last stable versión is actually 9.04. So, ¿When
>>>>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ofbiz
>>>>>>>>>>>>> try a new stable release version?.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gracias/Thank You.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Juan Pablo
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> --
>>> View this message in context: http://n4.nabble.com/New-OFBiz-stable-release-tp963922p1675843.html
>>> Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>>
>
>
Re: New OFBiz stable release
Posted by Ashish Vijaywargiya <vi...@gmail.com>.
Probably it will be created in the end of march or first week of April.
--
Ashish
On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 7:22 PM, james_sg <sn...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Is OFBiz branch 10.04 on course?
>
> Regards,
> James
>
>
> David E Jones-4 wrote:
>>
>>
>> One quick thing to note, that seems to be confused here: the release
>> branch is a tool for stabilization. It's great to do testing and fixing in
>> the trunk, but the goal for a release branch is not to be tested and
>> bug-free from day one, but rather to be stable so that real testing and
>> bug fixing can be done in the release branch without worrying about new
>> things possibly breaking something, or any other conflicting priorities.
>>
>> -David
>>
>>
>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 1:22 PM, Anil Patel wrote:
>>
>>> Makes sense to me. If we are decided on date, we still have a month to
>>> go. Gives plenty of time, may be :)
>>>
>>> Thanks and Regards
>>> Anil Patel
>>> HotWax Media Inc
>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz"
>>>
>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 10:40 AM, Adrian Crum wrote:
>>>
>>>> It would be nice to get the new security code included in the branch -
>>>> even if it is disabled. That will give release users an introduction to
>>>> it and give them a chance to work on an upgrade strategy.
>>>>
>>>> -Adrian
>>>>
>>>> Anil Patel wrote:
>>>>> So, are we set for next Ofbiz Branch named 10.04 ?
>>>>> If we decide on _date_, I can have a team of developers scheduled to
>>>>> start testing branch code. This will allow to quickly stabilize ofbiz
>>>>> release for common ecommerce use.
>>>>> How about EOD March 31st 10 GMT?
>>>>> Thanks and Regards
>>>>> Anil Patel
>>>>> HotWax Media Inc
>>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz"
>>>>> On Feb 15, 2010, at 6:40 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>>>>> I agree but after Jacopo's message on dev ML about new release
>>>>>> strategy (on which I mostly agree) I will at least delay it...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From: "Bruno Busco" <br...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> In order to have this kind of issue scheduling could you please
>>>>>>> create
>>>>>>> a new OFBIZ version in jira and set the Fix Version of these issue on
>>>>>>> that?
>>>>>>> I do not see any clearer way to answer to Ashish question.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Bruno
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2010/2/15 Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>:
>>>>>>>> I expect to fulfill
>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3442
>>>>>>>> and maybe
>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3445
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In other word to use layer lookups instead of popup lookups
>>>>>>>> everywhere it's
>>>>>>>> possible in OFBiz.
>>>>>>>> From my 1st serie of tests it seems to work well almost everywhere,
>>>>>>>> WIP...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> From: "Ashish Vijaywargiya" <vi...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> I think its time to start thinking on the things that should be
>>>>>>>>> taken
>>>>>>>>> care in / before release branch 10.04.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Bug fixing should be the major area which should be taken care
>>>>>>>>> extensively in next two months.
>>>>>>>>> What about new features etc. etc.?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Please comment.
>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Ashish
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 6:47 AM, David E Jones <de...@me.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> There is no set date yet. The last release was in April 2009
>>>>>>>>>> (hence the
>>>>>>>>>> version number of 09.04 on it), and the one before that was about
>>>>>>>>>> 2 years
>>>>>>>>>> before. Chances are it won't be another 2 years before another
>>>>>>>>>> release, but
>>>>>>>>>> probably at least a year... so perhaps we'll do another release
>>>>>>>>>> branch in
>>>>>>>>>> around 4 months.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 14, 2009, at 3:37 PM, Juan Pablo wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Community.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm testing the last trunk version and the demo version published
>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>> Internet (http://demo.ofbiz.org). They've got new functionality:
>>>>>>>>>>> help on
>>>>>>>>>>> line, new themes, new features in accounting, manufacturing and
>>>>>>>>>>> ordermgr
>>>>>>>>>>> components. The last stable versión is actually 9.04. So, ¿When
>>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>>> Ofbiz
>>>>>>>>>>> try a new stable release version?.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Gracias/Thank You.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> Juan Pablo
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
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>
Re: New OFBiz stable release
Posted by james_sg <sn...@hotmail.com>.
Hi all,
Is OFBiz branch 10.04 on course?
Regards,
James
David E Jones-4 wrote:
>
>
> One quick thing to note, that seems to be confused here: the release
> branch is a tool for stabilization. It's great to do testing and fixing in
> the trunk, but the goal for a release branch is not to be tested and
> bug-free from day one, but rather to be stable so that real testing and
> bug fixing can be done in the release branch without worrying about new
> things possibly breaking something, or any other conflicting priorities.
>
> -David
>
>
> On Feb 23, 2010, at 1:22 PM, Anil Patel wrote:
>
>> Makes sense to me. If we are decided on date, we still have a month to
>> go. Gives plenty of time, may be :)
>>
>> Thanks and Regards
>> Anil Patel
>> HotWax Media Inc
>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz"
>>
>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 10:40 AM, Adrian Crum wrote:
>>
>>> It would be nice to get the new security code included in the branch -
>>> even if it is disabled. That will give release users an introduction to
>>> it and give them a chance to work on an upgrade strategy.
>>>
>>> -Adrian
>>>
>>> Anil Patel wrote:
>>>> So, are we set for next Ofbiz Branch named 10.04 ?
>>>> If we decide on _date_, I can have a team of developers scheduled to
>>>> start testing branch code. This will allow to quickly stabilize ofbiz
>>>> release for common ecommerce use.
>>>> How about EOD March 31st 10 GMT?
>>>> Thanks and Regards
>>>> Anil Patel
>>>> HotWax Media Inc
>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz"
>>>> On Feb 15, 2010, at 6:40 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>>>> I agree but after Jacopo's message on dev ML about new release
>>>>> strategy (on which I mostly agree) I will at least delay it...
>>>>>
>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>
>>>>> From: "Bruno Busco" <br...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> In order to have this kind of issue scheduling could you please
>>>>>> create
>>>>>> a new OFBIZ version in jira and set the Fix Version of these issue on
>>>>>> that?
>>>>>> I do not see any clearer way to answer to Ashish question.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Bruno
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2010/2/15 Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>:
>>>>>>> I expect to fulfill
>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3442
>>>>>>> and maybe
>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3445
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In other word to use layer lookups instead of popup lookups
>>>>>>> everywhere it's
>>>>>>> possible in OFBiz.
>>>>>>> From my 1st serie of tests it seems to work well almost everywhere,
>>>>>>> WIP...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: "Ashish Vijaywargiya" <vi...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> I think its time to start thinking on the things that should be
>>>>>>>> taken
>>>>>>>> care in / before release branch 10.04.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Bug fixing should be the major area which should be taken care
>>>>>>>> extensively in next two months.
>>>>>>>> What about new features etc. etc.?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Please comment.
>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Ashish
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 6:47 AM, David E Jones <de...@me.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> There is no set date yet. The last release was in April 2009
>>>>>>>>> (hence the
>>>>>>>>> version number of 09.04 on it), and the one before that was about
>>>>>>>>> 2 years
>>>>>>>>> before. Chances are it won't be another 2 years before another
>>>>>>>>> release, but
>>>>>>>>> probably at least a year... so perhaps we'll do another release
>>>>>>>>> branch in
>>>>>>>>> around 4 months.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Dec 14, 2009, at 3:37 PM, Juan Pablo wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hello Community.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm testing the last trunk version and the demo version published
>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>> Internet (http://demo.ofbiz.org). They've got new functionality:
>>>>>>>>>> help on
>>>>>>>>>> line, new themes, new features in accounting, manufacturing and
>>>>>>>>>> ordermgr
>>>>>>>>>> components. The last stable versión is actually 9.04. So, ¿When
>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>> Ofbiz
>>>>>>>>>> try a new stable release version?.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Gracias/Thank You.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Juan Pablo
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>
>
>
>
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Re: New OFBiz stable release
Posted by David E Jones <de...@me.com>.
In what way?
I think this is totally consistent with the Release Plan document, but maybe you're seeing something I'm not?
-David
On Feb 23, 2010, at 1:46 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
> Doesn't this contradict previous statements or non-statements about bug fixes in Release 9.04?
> Regards,
> Ruth
>
> David E Jones wrote:
>> One quick thing to note, that seems to be confused here: the release branch is a tool for stabilization. It's great to do testing and fixing in the trunk, but the goal for a release branch is not to be tested and bug-free from day one, but rather to be stable so that real testing and bug fixing can be done in the release branch without worrying about new things possibly breaking something, or any other conflicting priorities.
>>
>> -David
>>
>>
>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 1:22 PM, Anil Patel wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Makes sense to me. If we are decided on date, we still have a month to go. Gives plenty of time, may be :)
>>>
>>> Thanks and Regards
>>> Anil Patel
>>> HotWax Media Inc
>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz"
>>>
>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 10:40 AM, Adrian Crum wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> It would be nice to get the new security code included in the branch - even if it is disabled. That will give release users an introduction to it and give them a chance to work on an upgrade strategy.
>>>>
>>>> -Adrian
>>>>
>>>> Anil Patel wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> So, are we set for next Ofbiz Branch named 10.04 ?
>>>>> If we decide on _date_, I can have a team of developers scheduled to start testing branch code. This will allow to quickly stabilize ofbiz release for common ecommerce use.
>>>>> How about EOD March 31st 10 GMT?
>>>>> Thanks and Regards
>>>>> Anil Patel
>>>>> HotWax Media Inc
>>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz"
>>>>> On Feb 15, 2010, at 6:40 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I agree but after Jacopo's message on dev ML about new release strategy (on which I mostly agree) I will at least delay it...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From: "Bruno Busco" <br...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In order to have this kind of issue scheduling could you please create
>>>>>>> a new OFBIZ version in jira and set the Fix Version of these issue on
>>>>>>> that?
>>>>>>> I do not see any clearer way to answer to Ashish question.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Bruno
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2010/2/15 Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I expect to fulfill
>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3442
>>>>>>>> and maybe
>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3445
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In other word to use layer lookups instead of popup lookups everywhere it's
>>>>>>>> possible in OFBiz.
>>>>>>>> From my 1st serie of tests it seems to work well almost everywhere, WIP...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> From: "Ashish Vijaywargiya" <vi...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I think its time to start thinking on the things that should be taken
>>>>>>>>> care in / before release branch 10.04.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Bug fixing should be the major area which should be taken care
>>>>>>>>> extensively in next two months.
>>>>>>>>> What about new features etc. etc.?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Please comment.
>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Ashish
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 6:47 AM, David E Jones <de...@me.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> There is no set date yet. The last release was in April 2009 (hence the
>>>>>>>>>> version number of 09.04 on it), and the one before that was about 2 years
>>>>>>>>>> before. Chances are it won't be another 2 years before another release, but
>>>>>>>>>> probably at least a year... so perhaps we'll do another release branch in
>>>>>>>>>> around 4 months.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 14, 2009, at 3:37 PM, Juan Pablo wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Community.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm testing the last trunk version and the demo version published in
>>>>>>>>>>> Internet (http://demo.ofbiz.org). They've got new functionality: help on
>>>>>>>>>>> line, new themes, new features in accounting, manufacturing and ordermgr
>>>>>>>>>>> components. The last stable versión is actually 9.04. So, ¿When will
>>>>>>>>>>> Ofbiz
>>>>>>>>>>> try a new stable release version?.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Gracias/Thank You.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> Juan Pablo
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>
>>
>>
Re: New OFBiz stable release
Posted by Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>.
Anil,
Just scratching the surface: this looks like a very good idea to me.
Thanks for the initiative, I may help when I will get more time.
Jacques
From: "Anil Patel" <an...@hotwaxmedia.com>
> This makes me think, What does a stable release mean to people?
>
> Ofbiz is such a big software with so many different ways of using it, for me its nearly impossible to say with confidence that its
> ready for release. Instead I will prefer to say, "We have tested following processes in Ofbiz and found them working ok".
>
> Are users of Ofbiz interested in helping with building list of Business Processes that they will like to see tested and declared
> functional. If you (users) help build the list, this will ensure that you get what you want.
>
> Following are good place to start:
>
> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBREQDES/Universal+Business+Process+Library+Index
>
> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBREQDES/OFBiz+EZBiz
>
> Essentially I am asking users to help build acceptance test documents. You (users) decide what you will take :)
>
> Does this make sense?
>
> Thanks and Regards
> Anil Patel
> HotWax Media Inc
> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz"
>
> On Feb 23, 2010, at 5:29 PM, Tim Ruppert wrote:
>
>> What I'm telling you is that we may never be at a completely stable release, by your definition, unless we stop moving - which as
>> I committer, I do not think will ever happen. What I can say is that we would like to make branch - and stabilize it - and by
>> some chance - get to a point where we might have a proper release. Does that sound interesting to you?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Ruppert
>>
>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 2:36 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Tim:
>>>
>>> I'm hardly ever "right". And with all due respect, could we just stick to the original topic?
>>>
>>> Just to clear the air and set the record straight: What I was asking for was a clear and unambiguous statement from the project
>>> concerning what is meant by "stable release" so that non-committers can choose for themselves which release and/or trunk version
>>> they wish to get started with.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Ruth
>>>
>>> Tim Ruppert wrote:
>>>> Many, many committers continually add bug fixes to releases - check the commit logs. I can't speak for everyone, but I think
>>>> that many of us are sitting here waiting for a new release so that this can become more of the process that people are
>>>> pushing - including trying to encourage people to use the releases - instead of just the trunk - which seemed to be something
>>>> you were asking for earlier.
>>>> So, be behind this - it's in your best interests and what you've been clamoring for - instead of just trying to be "right" all
>>>> of the time ....
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Ruppert
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 2:08 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hello Anil:
>>>>>
>>>>> How about a recent thread called "Rethinking our release strategy" dated Feb 15th, 2010 which I shall partially repeat here
>>>>> for your convenience:
>>>>>
>>>>>> * because of this, no real maintenance plan, test strategy etc..
>>>>> has been created around it (9.04) from the community of users and
>>>>> interested parties (in fact we were not really able to officially
>>>>> release it)
>>>>>
>>>>>> * a lot of new users start eveluating OFBiz from that instead of
>>>>> the trunk
>>>>>> * it is rather old, several new features are missing and also
>>>>> code improvements (that could fix bugs etc)
>>>>>> I thought all the bug fixes were retrofitted to the release? Is this not
>>>>> true?
>>>>>> * because of this, it tends to be less stable than the trunk
>>>>>> How could the release be less stable than the trunk if bug fixes are
>>>>> applied to the release and the trunk?
>>>>>> The main cons of this situations are the following:
>>>>>> 1) not real interest in maintaining a release branch means that
>>>>> we will not be able to spend time on it and officially release it:
>>>>> the OFBiz community will miss the advantage of using the marketing
>>>>> channel represented by a new release
>>>>>> 2) new users will get the wrong impression that the project is
>>>>> slowing improving if they just get the releases
>>>>>
>>>>> For a true sense of the thread, please see this quote in context. I'll give you a hint, no one from the project came out and
>>>>> said that bug fixes are applied to Releases. The implication (and thus non-statement) is that the "trunk" is it as far as bug
>>>>> fixes are concerned.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Ruth
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Anil Patel wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Ruth,
>>>>>> I don't know which statement are you talking about. Can you please put that statement or non-statement here for ready
>>>>>> reference? Thanks and Regards
>>>>>> Anil Patel
>>>>>> HotWax Media Inc
>>>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 3:46 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Doesn't this contradict previous statements or non-statements about bug fixes in Release 9.04?
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> Ruth
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> David E Jones wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> One quick thing to note, that seems to be confused here: the release branch is a tool for stabilization. It's great to do
>>>>>>>> testing and fixing in the trunk, but the goal for a release branch is not to be tested and bug-free from day one, but
>>>>>>>> rather to be stable so that real testing and bug fixing can be done in the release branch without worrying about new things
>>>>>>>> possibly breaking something, or any other conflicting priorities.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 1:22 PM, Anil Patel wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Makes sense to me. If we are decided on date, we still have a month to go. Gives plenty of time, may be :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks and Regards
>>>>>>>>> Anil Patel
>>>>>>>>> HotWax Media Inc
>>>>>>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz"
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 10:40 AM, Adrian Crum wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It would be nice to get the new security code included in the branch - even if it is disabled. That will give release
>>>>>>>>>> users an introduction to it and give them a chance to work on an upgrade strategy.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -Adrian
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Anil Patel wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> So, are we set for next Ofbiz Branch named 10.04 ?
>>>>>>>>>>> If we decide on _date_, I can have a team of developers scheduled to start testing branch code. This will allow to
>>>>>>>>>>> quickly stabilize ofbiz release for common ecommerce use.
>>>>>>>>>>> How about EOD March 31st 10 GMT?
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks and Regards
>>>>>>>>>>> Anil Patel
>>>>>>>>>>> HotWax Media Inc
>>>>>>>>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz"
>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 15, 2010, at 6:40 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree but after Jacopo's message on dev ML about new release strategy (on which I mostly agree) I will at least delay
>>>>>>>>>>>> it...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Bruno Busco" <br...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> In order to have this kind of issue scheduling could you please create
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a new OFBIZ version in jira and set the Fix Version of these issue on
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I do not see any clearer way to answer to Ashish question.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Bruno
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2010/2/15 Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I expect to fulfill
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3442
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and maybe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3445
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In other word to use layer lookups instead of popup lookups everywhere it's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> possible in OFBiz.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From my 1st serie of tests it seems to work well almost everywhere, WIP...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Ashish Vijaywargiya" <vi...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think its time to start thinking on the things that should be taken
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> care in / before release branch 10.04.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bug fixing should be the major area which should be taken care
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> extensively in next two months.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What about new features etc. etc.?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please comment.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ashish
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 6:47 AM, David E Jones <de...@me.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is no set date yet. The last release was in April 2009 (hence the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> version number of 09.04 on it), and the one before that was about 2 years
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> before. Chances are it won't be another 2 years before another release, but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> probably at least a year... so perhaps we'll do another release branch in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> around 4 months.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 14, 2009, at 3:37 PM, Juan Pablo wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Community.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm testing the last trunk version and the demo version published in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Internet (http://demo.ofbiz.org). They've got new functionality: help on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> line, new themes, new features in accounting, manufacturing and ordermgr
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> components. The last stable versión is actually 9.04. So, ¿When will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ofbiz
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> try a new stable release version?.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gracias/Thank You.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Juan Pablo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>
>
Re: New OFBiz stable release
Posted by Anil Patel <an...@hotwaxmedia.com>.
This makes me think, What does a stable release mean to people?
Ofbiz is such a big software with so many different ways of using it, for me its nearly impossible to say with confidence that its ready for release. Instead I will prefer to say, "We have tested following processes in Ofbiz and found them working ok".
Are users of Ofbiz interested in helping with building list of Business Processes that they will like to see tested and declared functional. If you (users) help build the list, this will ensure that you get what you want.
Following are good place to start:
http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBREQDES/Universal+Business+Process+Library+Index
http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBREQDES/OFBiz+EZBiz
Essentially I am asking users to help build acceptance test documents. You (users) decide what you will take :)
Does this make sense?
Thanks and Regards
Anil Patel
HotWax Media Inc
Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz"
On Feb 23, 2010, at 5:29 PM, Tim Ruppert wrote:
> What I'm telling you is that we may never be at a completely stable release, by your definition, unless we stop moving - which as I committer, I do not think will ever happen. What I can say is that we would like to make branch - and stabilize it - and by some chance - get to a point where we might have a proper release. Does that sound interesting to you?
>
> Cheers,
> Ruppert
>
> On Feb 23, 2010, at 2:36 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
>
>> Hi Tim:
>>
>> I'm hardly ever "right". And with all due respect, could we just stick to the original topic?
>>
>> Just to clear the air and set the record straight: What I was asking for was a clear and unambiguous statement from the project concerning what is meant by "stable release" so that non-committers can choose for themselves which release and/or trunk version they wish to get started with.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Ruth
>>
>> Tim Ruppert wrote:
>>> Many, many committers continually add bug fixes to releases - check the commit logs. I can't speak for everyone, but I think that many of us are sitting here waiting for a new release so that this can become more of the process that people are pushing - including trying to encourage people to use the releases - instead of just the trunk - which seemed to be something you were asking for earlier.
>>> So, be behind this - it's in your best interests and what you've been clamoring for - instead of just trying to be "right" all of the time ....
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Ruppert
>>>
>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 2:08 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hello Anil:
>>>>
>>>> How about a recent thread called "Rethinking our release strategy" dated Feb 15th, 2010 which I shall partially repeat here for your convenience:
>>>>
>>>>> * because of this, no real maintenance plan, test strategy etc..
>>>> has been created around it (9.04) from the community of users and
>>>> interested parties (in fact we were not really able to officially
>>>> release it)
>>>>
>>>>> * a lot of new users start eveluating OFBiz from that instead of
>>>> the trunk
>>>>> * it is rather old, several new features are missing and also
>>>> code improvements (that could fix bugs etc)
>>>>> I thought all the bug fixes were retrofitted to the release? Is this not
>>>> true?
>>>>> * because of this, it tends to be less stable than the trunk
>>>>> How could the release be less stable than the trunk if bug fixes are
>>>> applied to the release and the trunk?
>>>>> The main cons of this situations are the following:
>>>>> 1) not real interest in maintaining a release branch means that
>>>> we will not be able to spend time on it and officially release it:
>>>> the OFBiz community will miss the advantage of using the marketing
>>>> channel represented by a new release
>>>>> 2) new users will get the wrong impression that the project is
>>>> slowing improving if they just get the releases
>>>>
>>>> For a true sense of the thread, please see this quote in context. I'll give you a hint, no one from the project came out and said that bug fixes are applied to Releases. The implication (and thus non-statement) is that the "trunk" is it as far as bug fixes are concerned.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Ruth
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Anil Patel wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Ruth,
>>>>> I don't know which statement are you talking about. Can you please put that statement or non-statement here for ready reference? Thanks and Regards
>>>>> Anil Patel
>>>>> HotWax Media Inc
>>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz"
>>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 3:46 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Doesn't this contradict previous statements or non-statements about bug fixes in Release 9.04?
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Ruth
>>>>>>
>>>>>> David E Jones wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> One quick thing to note, that seems to be confused here: the release branch is a tool for stabilization. It's great to do testing and fixing in the trunk, but the goal for a release branch is not to be tested and bug-free from day one, but rather to be stable so that real testing and bug fixing can be done in the release branch without worrying about new things possibly breaking something, or any other conflicting priorities.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 1:22 PM, Anil Patel wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Makes sense to me. If we are decided on date, we still have a month to go. Gives plenty of time, may be :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks and Regards
>>>>>>>> Anil Patel
>>>>>>>> HotWax Media Inc
>>>>>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 10:40 AM, Adrian Crum wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It would be nice to get the new security code included in the branch - even if it is disabled. That will give release users an introduction to it and give them a chance to work on an upgrade strategy.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -Adrian
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Anil Patel wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So, are we set for next Ofbiz Branch named 10.04 ?
>>>>>>>>>> If we decide on _date_, I can have a team of developers scheduled to start testing branch code. This will allow to quickly stabilize ofbiz release for common ecommerce use.
>>>>>>>>>> How about EOD March 31st 10 GMT?
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks and Regards
>>>>>>>>>> Anil Patel
>>>>>>>>>> HotWax Media Inc
>>>>>>>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz"
>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 15, 2010, at 6:40 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I agree but after Jacopo's message on dev ML about new release strategy (on which I mostly agree) I will at least delay it...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Bruno Busco" <br...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> In order to have this kind of issue scheduling could you please create
>>>>>>>>>>>> a new OFBIZ version in jira and set the Fix Version of these issue on
>>>>>>>>>>>> that?
>>>>>>>>>>>> I do not see any clearer way to answer to Ashish question.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> -Bruno
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2010/2/15 Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I expect to fulfill
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3442
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and maybe
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3445
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> In other word to use layer lookups instead of popup lookups everywhere it's
>>>>>>>>>>>>> possible in OFBiz.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> From my 1st serie of tests it seems to work well almost everywhere, WIP...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Ashish Vijaywargiya" <vi...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think its time to start thinking on the things that should be taken
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> care in / before release branch 10.04.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bug fixing should be the major area which should be taken care
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> extensively in next two months.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What about new features etc. etc.?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please comment.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ashish
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 6:47 AM, David E Jones <de...@me.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is no set date yet. The last release was in April 2009 (hence the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> version number of 09.04 on it), and the one before that was about 2 years
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> before. Chances are it won't be another 2 years before another release, but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> probably at least a year... so perhaps we'll do another release branch in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> around 4 months.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 14, 2009, at 3:37 PM, Juan Pablo wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Community.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm testing the last trunk version and the demo version published in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Internet (http://demo.ofbiz.org). They've got new functionality: help on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> line, new themes, new features in accounting, manufacturing and ordermgr
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> components. The last stable versión is actually 9.04. So, ¿When will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ofbiz
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> try a new stable release version?.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gracias/Thank You.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Juan Pablo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>
Re: New OFBiz stable release
Posted by Anil Patel <an...@hotwaxmedia.com>.
BJ,
All these work OOTB even today. Will you take that statement?
We need real details that will allow writing Unit Tests and Selenium tests and at times have developer do tests and be able to reproduce results.
Thanks and Regards
Anil Patel
HotWax Media Inc
Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz"
On Feb 23, 2010, at 5:49 PM, BJ Freeman wrote:
> the top level tests
> 1) does an order, that is complete, come out in the GL properly
> 2) same for Purchase Order.
> 3) does a years worth for transactions balance.
>
>
> Anil Patel sent the following on 2/23/2010 2:43 PM:
>> This makes me think, What does a stable release mean to people?
>>
>> Ofbiz is such a big software with so many different ways of using it, for me its nearly impossible to say with confidence that its ready for release. Instead I will prefer to say, "We have tested following processes in Ofbiz and found them working ok".
>>
>> Are users of Ofbiz interested in helping with building list of Business Processes that they will like to see tested and declared functional. If you (users) help build the list, this will ensure that you get what you want.
>>
>> Following are good place to start:
>>
>> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBREQDES/Universal+Business+Process+Library+Index
>>
>> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBREQDES/OFBiz+EZBiz
>>
>> Essentially I am asking users to help build acceptance test documents. You (users) decide what you will take :)
>>
>> Does this make sense?
>>
>> Thanks and Regards
>> Anil Patel
>> HotWax Media Inc
>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz"
>>
>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 5:29 PM, Tim Ruppert wrote:
>>
>>> What I'm telling you is that we may never be at a completely stable release, by your definition, unless we stop moving - which as I committer, I do not think will ever happen. What I can say is that we would like to make branch - and stabilize it - and by some chance - get to a point where we might have a proper release. Does that sound interesting to you?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Ruppert
>>>
>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 2:36 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Tim:
>>>>
>>>> I'm hardly ever "right". And with all due respect, could we just stick to the original topic?
>>>>
>>>> Just to clear the air and set the record straight: What I was asking for was a clear and unambiguous statement from the project concerning what is meant by "stable release" so that non-committers can choose for themselves which release and/or trunk version they wish to get started with.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Ruth
>>>>
>>>> Tim Ruppert wrote:
>>>>> Many, many committers continually add bug fixes to releases - check the commit logs. I can't speak for everyone, but I think that many of us are sitting here waiting for a new release so that this can become more of the process that people are pushing - including trying to encourage people to use the releases - instead of just the trunk - which seemed to be something you were asking for earlier.
>>>>> So, be behind this - it's in your best interests and what you've been clamoring for - instead of just trying to be "right" all of the time ....
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Ruppert
>>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 2:08 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello Anil:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How about a recent thread called "Rethinking our release strategy" dated Feb 15th, 2010 which I shall partially repeat here for your convenience:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> * because of this, no real maintenance plan, test strategy etc..
>>>>>> has been created around it (9.04) from the community of users and
>>>>>> interested parties (in fact we were not really able to officially
>>>>>> release it)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> * a lot of new users start eveluating OFBiz from that instead of
>>>>>> the trunk
>>>>>>> * it is rather old, several new features are missing and also
>>>>>> code improvements (that could fix bugs etc)
>>>>>>> I thought all the bug fixes were retrofitted to the release? Is this not
>>>>>> true?
>>>>>>> * because of this, it tends to be less stable than the trunk
>>>>>>> How could the release be less stable than the trunk if bug fixes are
>>>>>> applied to the release and the trunk?
>>>>>>> The main cons of this situations are the following:
>>>>>>> 1) not real interest in maintaining a release branch means that
>>>>>> we will not be able to spend time on it and officially release it:
>>>>>> the OFBiz community will miss the advantage of using the marketing
>>>>>> channel represented by a new release
>>>>>>> 2) new users will get the wrong impression that the project is
>>>>>> slowing improving if they just get the releases
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For a true sense of the thread, please see this quote in context. I'll give you a hint, no one from the project came out and said that bug fixes are applied to Releases. The implication (and thus non-statement) is that the "trunk" is it as far as bug fixes are concerned.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Ruth
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anil Patel wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ruth,
>>>>>>> I don't know which statement are you talking about. Can you please put that statement or non-statement here for ready reference? Thanks and Regards
>>>>>>> Anil Patel
>>>>>>> HotWax Media Inc
>>>>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 3:46 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Doesn't this contradict previous statements or non-statements about bug fixes in Release 9.04?
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>> Ruth
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> David E Jones wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> One quick thing to note, that seems to be confused here: the release branch is a tool for stabilization. It's great to do testing and fixing in the trunk, but the goal for a release branch is not to be tested and bug-free from day one, but rather to be stable so that real testing and bug fixing can be done in the release branch without worrying about new things possibly breaking something, or any other conflicting priorities.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 1:22 PM, Anil Patel wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Makes sense to me. If we are decided on date, we still have a month to go. Gives plenty of time, may be :)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks and Regards
>>>>>>>>>> Anil Patel
>>>>>>>>>> HotWax Media Inc
>>>>>>>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz"
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 10:40 AM, Adrian Crum wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It would be nice to get the new security code included in the branch - even if it is disabled. That will give release users an introduction to it and give them a chance to work on an upgrade strategy.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> -Adrian
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Anil Patel wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> So, are we set for next Ofbiz Branch named 10.04 ?
>>>>>>>>>>>> If we decide on _date_, I can have a team of developers scheduled to start testing branch code. This will allow to quickly stabilize ofbiz release for common ecommerce use.
>>>>>>>>>>>> How about EOD March 31st 10 GMT?
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks and Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>> Anil Patel
>>>>>>>>>>>> HotWax Media Inc
>>>>>>>>>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz"
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 15, 2010, at 6:40 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree but after Jacopo's message on dev ML about new release strategy (on which I mostly agree) I will at least delay it...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Bruno Busco" <br...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In order to have this kind of issue scheduling could you please create
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a new OFBIZ version in jira and set the Fix Version of these issue on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I do not see any clearer way to answer to Ashish question.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Bruno
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2010/2/15 Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I expect to fulfill
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3442
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and maybe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3445
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In other word to use layer lookups instead of popup lookups everywhere it's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> possible in OFBiz.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From my 1st serie of tests it seems to work well almost everywhere, WIP...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Ashish Vijaywargiya" <vi...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think its time to start thinking on the things that should be taken
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> care in / before release branch 10.04.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bug fixing should be the major area which should be taken care
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> extensively in next two months.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What about new features etc. etc.?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please comment.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ashish
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 6:47 AM, David E Jones <de...@me.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is no set date yet. The last release was in April 2009 (hence the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> version number of 09.04 on it), and the one before that was about 2 years
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> before. Chances are it won't be another 2 years before another release, but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> probably at least a year... so perhaps we'll do another release branch in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> around 4 months.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 14, 2009, at 3:37 PM, Juan Pablo wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Community.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm testing the last trunk version and the demo version published in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Internet (http://demo.ofbiz.org). They've got new functionality: help on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> line, new themes, new features in accounting, manufacturing and ordermgr
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> components. The last stable versión is actually 9.04. So, ¿When will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ofbiz
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> try a new stable release version?.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gracias/Thank You.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Juan Pablo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>
>>
>
Re: New OFBiz stable release
Posted by Anil Patel <an...@hotwaxmedia.com>.
Look for contents in
OrderTest.xml
accountingtests.xml
invoicetests.xml
paymenttests.xml
Please give details what is not covered here and you will like see added.
Thanks and Regards
Anil Patel
HotWax Media Inc
Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz"
On Feb 23, 2010, at 6:45 PM, BJ Freeman wrote:
> can you give me a lead in to those, what is the top Junit for those three.
>
> Anil Patel sent the following on 2/23/2010 2:54 PM:
>> BJ,
>> All these work OOTB even today. Will you take that statement?
>>
>> We need real details that will allow writing Unit Tests and Selenium tests and at times have developer do tests and be able to reproduce results.
>>
>> Thanks and Regards
>> Anil Patel
>> HotWax Media Inc
>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz"
>>
>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 5:49 PM, BJ Freeman wrote:
>>
>>> the top level tests
>>> 1) does an order, that is complete, come out in the GL properly
>>> 2) same for Purchase Order.
>>> 3) does a years worth for transactions balance.
>>>
>>>
>>> Anil Patel sent the following on 2/23/2010 2:43 PM:
>>>> This makes me think, What does a stable release mean to people?
>>>>
>>>> Ofbiz is such a big software with so many different ways of using it, for me its nearly impossible to say with confidence that its ready for release. Instead I will prefer to say, "We have tested following processes in Ofbiz and found them working ok".
>>>>
>>>> Are users of Ofbiz interested in helping with building list of Business Processes that they will like to see tested and declared functional. If you (users) help build the list, this will ensure that you get what you want.
>>>>
>>>> Following are good place to start:
>>>>
>>>> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBREQDES/Universal+Business+Process+Library+Index
>>>>
>>>> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBREQDES/OFBiz+EZBiz
>>>>
>>>> Essentially I am asking users to help build acceptance test documents. You (users) decide what you will take :)
>>>>
>>>> Does this make sense?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks and Regards
>>>> Anil Patel
>>>> HotWax Media Inc
>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz"
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 5:29 PM, Tim Ruppert wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> What I'm telling you is that we may never be at a completely stable release, by your definition, unless we stop moving - which as I committer, I do not think will ever happen. What I can say is that we would like to make branch - and stabilize it - and by some chance - get to a point where we might have a proper release. Does that sound interesting to you?
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Ruppert
>>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 2:36 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Tim:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm hardly ever "right". And with all due respect, could we just stick to the original topic?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just to clear the air and set the record straight: What I was asking for was a clear and unambiguous statement from the project concerning what is meant by "stable release" so that non-committers can choose for themselves which release and/or trunk version they wish to get started with.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Ruth
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tim Ruppert wrote:
>>>>>>> Many, many committers continually add bug fixes to releases - check the commit logs. I can't speak for everyone, but I think that many of us are sitting here waiting for a new release so that this can become more of the process that people are pushing - including trying to encourage people to use the releases - instead of just the trunk - which seemed to be something you were asking for earlier.
>>>>>>> So, be behind this - it's in your best interests and what you've been clamoring for - instead of just trying to be "right" all of the time ....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> Ruppert
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 2:08 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hello Anil:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> How about a recent thread called "Rethinking our release strategy" dated Feb 15th, 2010 which I shall partially repeat here for your convenience:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> * because of this, no real maintenance plan, test strategy etc..
>>>>>>>> has been created around it (9.04) from the community of users and
>>>>>>>> interested parties (in fact we were not really able to officially
>>>>>>>> release it)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> * a lot of new users start eveluating OFBiz from that instead of
>>>>>>>> the trunk
>>>>>>>>> * it is rather old, several new features are missing and also
>>>>>>>> code improvements (that could fix bugs etc)
>>>>>>>>> I thought all the bug fixes were retrofitted to the release? Is this not
>>>>>>>> true?
>>>>>>>>> * because of this, it tends to be less stable than the trunk
>>>>>>>>> How could the release be less stable than the trunk if bug fixes are
>>>>>>>> applied to the release and the trunk?
>>>>>>>>> The main cons of this situations are the following:
>>>>>>>>> 1) not real interest in maintaining a release branch means that
>>>>>>>> we will not be able to spend time on it and officially release it:
>>>>>>>> the OFBiz community will miss the advantage of using the marketing
>>>>>>>> channel represented by a new release
>>>>>>>>> 2) new users will get the wrong impression that the project is
>>>>>>>> slowing improving if they just get the releases
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> For a true sense of the thread, please see this quote in context. I'll give you a hint, no one from the project came out and said that bug fixes are applied to Releases. The implication (and thus non-statement) is that the "trunk" is it as far as bug fixes are concerned.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>> Ruth
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Anil Patel wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ruth,
>>>>>>>>> I don't know which statement are you talking about. Can you please put that statement or non-statement here for ready reference? Thanks and Regards
>>>>>>>>> Anil Patel
>>>>>>>>> HotWax Media Inc
>>>>>>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz"
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 3:46 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Doesn't this contradict previous statements or non-statements about bug fixes in Release 9.04?
>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>> Ruth
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> David E Jones wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> One quick thing to note, that seems to be confused here: the release branch is a tool for stabilization. It's great to do testing and fixing in the trunk, but the goal for a release branch is not to be tested and bug-free from day one, but rather to be stable so that real testing and bug fixing can be done in the release branch without worrying about new things possibly breaking something, or any other conflicting priorities.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 1:22 PM, Anil Patel wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Makes sense to me. If we are decided on date, we still have a month to go. Gives plenty of time, may be :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks and Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>> Anil Patel
>>>>>>>>>>>> HotWax Media Inc
>>>>>>>>>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz"
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 10:40 AM, Adrian Crum wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It would be nice to get the new security code included in the branch - even if it is disabled. That will give release users an introduction to it and give them a chance to work on an upgrade strategy.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Adrian
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anil Patel wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, are we set for next Ofbiz Branch named 10.04 ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If we decide on _date_, I can have a team of developers scheduled to start testing branch code. This will allow to quickly stabilize ofbiz release for common ecommerce use.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How about EOD March 31st 10 GMT?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks and Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anil Patel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> HotWax Media Inc
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 15, 2010, at 6:40 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree but after Jacopo's message on dev ML about new release strategy (on which I mostly agree) I will at least delay it...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Bruno Busco" <br...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In order to have this kind of issue scheduling could you please create
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a new OFBIZ version in jira and set the Fix Version of these issue on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I do not see any clearer way to answer to Ashish question.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Bruno
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2010/2/15 Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I expect to fulfill
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3442
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and maybe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3445
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In other word to use layer lookups instead of popup lookups everywhere it's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> possible in OFBiz.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From my 1st serie of tests it seems to work well almost everywhere, WIP...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Ashish Vijaywargiya" <vi...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think its time to start thinking on the things that should be taken
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> care in / before release branch 10.04.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bug fixing should be the major area which should be taken care
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> extensively in next two months.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What about new features etc. etc.?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please comment.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ashish
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 6:47 AM, David E Jones <de...@me.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is no set date yet. The last release was in April 2009 (hence the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> version number of 09.04 on it), and the one before that was about 2 years
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> before. Chances are it won't be another 2 years before another release, but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> probably at least a year... so perhaps we'll do another release branch in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> around 4 months.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 14, 2009, at 3:37 PM, Juan Pablo wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Community.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm testing the last trunk version and the demo version published in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Internet (http://demo.ofbiz.org). They've got new functionality: help on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> line, new themes, new features in accounting, manufacturing and ordermgr
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> components. The last stable versión is actually 9.04. So, ¿When will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ofbiz
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> try a new stable release version?.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gracias/Thank You.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Juan Pablo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>
Re: New OFBiz stable release
Posted by BJ Freeman <bj...@free-man.net>.
can you give me a lead in to those, what is the top Junit for those three.
Anil Patel sent the following on 2/23/2010 2:54 PM:
> BJ,
> All these work OOTB even today. Will you take that statement?
>
> We need real details that will allow writing Unit Tests and Selenium tests and at times have developer do tests and be able to reproduce results.
>
> Thanks and Regards
> Anil Patel
> HotWax Media Inc
> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz"
>
> On Feb 23, 2010, at 5:49 PM, BJ Freeman wrote:
>
>> the top level tests
>> 1) does an order, that is complete, come out in the GL properly
>> 2) same for Purchase Order.
>> 3) does a years worth for transactions balance.
>>
>>
>> Anil Patel sent the following on 2/23/2010 2:43 PM:
>>> This makes me think, What does a stable release mean to people?
>>>
>>> Ofbiz is such a big software with so many different ways of using it, for me its nearly impossible to say with confidence that its ready for release. Instead I will prefer to say, "We have tested following processes in Ofbiz and found them working ok".
>>>
>>> Are users of Ofbiz interested in helping with building list of Business Processes that they will like to see tested and declared functional. If you (users) help build the list, this will ensure that you get what you want.
>>>
>>> Following are good place to start:
>>>
>>> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBREQDES/Universal+Business+Process+Library+Index
>>>
>>> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBREQDES/OFBiz+EZBiz
>>>
>>> Essentially I am asking users to help build acceptance test documents. You (users) decide what you will take :)
>>>
>>> Does this make sense?
>>>
>>> Thanks and Regards
>>> Anil Patel
>>> HotWax Media Inc
>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz"
>>>
>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 5:29 PM, Tim Ruppert wrote:
>>>
>>>> What I'm telling you is that we may never be at a completely stable release, by your definition, unless we stop moving - which as I committer, I do not think will ever happen. What I can say is that we would like to make branch - and stabilize it - and by some chance - get to a point where we might have a proper release. Does that sound interesting to you?
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Ruppert
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 2:36 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Tim:
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm hardly ever "right". And with all due respect, could we just stick to the original topic?
>>>>>
>>>>> Just to clear the air and set the record straight: What I was asking for was a clear and unambiguous statement from the project concerning what is meant by "stable release" so that non-committers can choose for themselves which release and/or trunk version they wish to get started with.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Ruth
>>>>>
>>>>> Tim Ruppert wrote:
>>>>>> Many, many committers continually add bug fixes to releases - check the commit logs. I can't speak for everyone, but I think that many of us are sitting here waiting for a new release so that this can become more of the process that people are pushing - including trying to encourage people to use the releases - instead of just the trunk - which seemed to be something you were asking for earlier.
>>>>>> So, be behind this - it's in your best interests and what you've been clamoring for - instead of just trying to be "right" all of the time ....
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Ruppert
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 2:08 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello Anil:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How about a recent thread called "Rethinking our release strategy" dated Feb 15th, 2010 which I shall partially repeat here for your convenience:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> * because of this, no real maintenance plan, test strategy etc..
>>>>>>> has been created around it (9.04) from the community of users and
>>>>>>> interested parties (in fact we were not really able to officially
>>>>>>> release it)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> * a lot of new users start eveluating OFBiz from that instead of
>>>>>>> the trunk
>>>>>>>> * it is rather old, several new features are missing and also
>>>>>>> code improvements (that could fix bugs etc)
>>>>>>>> I thought all the bug fixes were retrofitted to the release? Is this not
>>>>>>> true?
>>>>>>>> * because of this, it tends to be less stable than the trunk
>>>>>>>> How could the release be less stable than the trunk if bug fixes are
>>>>>>> applied to the release and the trunk?
>>>>>>>> The main cons of this situations are the following:
>>>>>>>> 1) not real interest in maintaining a release branch means that
>>>>>>> we will not be able to spend time on it and officially release it:
>>>>>>> the OFBiz community will miss the advantage of using the marketing
>>>>>>> channel represented by a new release
>>>>>>>> 2) new users will get the wrong impression that the project is
>>>>>>> slowing improving if they just get the releases
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For a true sense of the thread, please see this quote in context. I'll give you a hint, no one from the project came out and said that bug fixes are applied to Releases. The implication (and thus non-statement) is that the "trunk" is it as far as bug fixes are concerned.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> Ruth
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anil Patel wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ruth,
>>>>>>>> I don't know which statement are you talking about. Can you please put that statement or non-statement here for ready reference? Thanks and Regards
>>>>>>>> Anil Patel
>>>>>>>> HotWax Media Inc
>>>>>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 3:46 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Doesn't this contradict previous statements or non-statements about bug fixes in Release 9.04?
>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>> Ruth
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> David E Jones wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> One quick thing to note, that seems to be confused here: the release branch is a tool for stabilization. It's great to do testing and fixing in the trunk, but the goal for a release branch is not to be tested and bug-free from day one, but rather to be stable so that real testing and bug fixing can be done in the release branch without worrying about new things possibly breaking something, or any other conflicting priorities.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 1:22 PM, Anil Patel wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Makes sense to me. If we are decided on date, we still have a month to go. Gives plenty of time, may be :)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks and Regards
>>>>>>>>>>> Anil Patel
>>>>>>>>>>> HotWax Media Inc
>>>>>>>>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz"
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 10:40 AM, Adrian Crum wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> It would be nice to get the new security code included in the branch - even if it is disabled. That will give release users an introduction to it and give them a chance to work on an upgrade strategy.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> -Adrian
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Anil Patel wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, are we set for next Ofbiz Branch named 10.04 ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> If we decide on _date_, I can have a team of developers scheduled to start testing branch code. This will allow to quickly stabilize ofbiz release for common ecommerce use.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> How about EOD March 31st 10 GMT?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks and Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anil Patel
>>>>>>>>>>>>> HotWax Media Inc
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz"
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 15, 2010, at 6:40 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree but after Jacopo's message on dev ML about new release strategy (on which I mostly agree) I will at least delay it...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Bruno Busco" <br...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In order to have this kind of issue scheduling could you please create
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a new OFBIZ version in jira and set the Fix Version of these issue on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I do not see any clearer way to answer to Ashish question.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Bruno
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2010/2/15 Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I expect to fulfill
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3442
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and maybe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3445
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In other word to use layer lookups instead of popup lookups everywhere it's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> possible in OFBiz.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From my 1st serie of tests it seems to work well almost everywhere, WIP...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Ashish Vijaywargiya" <vi...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think its time to start thinking on the things that should be taken
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> care in / before release branch 10.04.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bug fixing should be the major area which should be taken care
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> extensively in next two months.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What about new features etc. etc.?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please comment.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ashish
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 6:47 AM, David E Jones <de...@me.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is no set date yet. The last release was in April 2009 (hence the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> version number of 09.04 on it), and the one before that was about 2 years
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> before. Chances are it won't be another 2 years before another release, but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> probably at least a year... so perhaps we'll do another release branch in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> around 4 months.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 14, 2009, at 3:37 PM, Juan Pablo wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Community.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm testing the last trunk version and the demo version published in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Internet (http://demo.ofbiz.org). They've got new functionality: help on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> line, new themes, new features in accounting, manufacturing and ordermgr
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> components. The last stable versión is actually 9.04. So, ¿When will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ofbiz
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> try a new stable release version?.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gracias/Thank You.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Juan Pablo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>
>
>
Re: selenium testing storing scripts
Posted by BJ Freeman <bj...@free-man.net>.
I use Microsoft product that uses vba.
so I will be seeing what selenium can do against that
I will be converting my vba code to java to be incorporated into Junits.
my thought was to use the jira for those that captured under selenium
IDE to put in a file with an explanation.
at this point I think that putting energy into selenium is the next step
to have ofbiz fully debugged.
Erwan de FERRIERES sent the following on 2/24/2010 10:25 AM:
> On 24/02/2010 19:07, BJ Freeman wrote:
>> assuming every user provide a selenium script of what they do to build a
>> library for testing, where could we put these. Maybe a jira?
>>
>>
> There are already 2 seleniumXml in OFBiz, but creating an umbrella JIRA
> issue could be a good start to list the already done job.
>
> At Nereide, we've already a bunch of them, waiting to be integrated. The
> only thing that make me wait is that SeleniumXml is not as powerful as
> our IC server...
>
> As I said before, we can't log actions, and there is no possibility to
> keep track of what has be done (results in error, screenshots, etc...)
>
> I tried to improve the seleniumXml framework, but I am running out of
> time at the moment. Moreover the manner I developed this improvement is
> maybe not the best (should use JUnit), and I would really like to work
> with others on this particular point of OFBiz improvement.
>
> Regards,
>
Re: New OFBiz stable release
Posted by Erwan de FERRIERES <er...@nereide.fr>.
Le 24/02/2010 09:19, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :
> Hi BJ,
>
> Then Selenium should be the way...
>
> Jacques
>
it's this way I found the bug in AP/AR....
But :
* There is not enough selenium tests in OFBiz
* logging/historic functions are not implemented
I tried to improve the seleniumXml behaviour in this JIRA issue, but
it's maybe not the best way to do it.
I have also been looking to the different logging frameworks, most of
them are using JUnit 4 to manage the error and success states.
So, I would be really happy to work with others to improve this
implementation. Feel free to join !
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3438
Regards,
--
Erwan de FERRIERES
www.nereide.biz
Re: selenium testing storing scripts
Posted by BJ Freeman <bj...@free-man.net>.
Thanks Erwan for your contributions to the Jira
also your test report.
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3511
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BJ Freeman sent the following on 2/24/2010 10:07 AM:
> assuming every user provide a selenium script of what they do to build a
> library for testing, where could we put these. Maybe a jira?
>
>
> BJ Freeman sent the following on 2/24/2010 8:09 AM:
>> Thanks I guess it is time to think about changing over from my Windows
>> based testing tool to selenium.
>> found some youtube tutorials.
>> under
>> selenium testing
>> Maybe make some video on ofbiz to get more involvement.
>>
>> see what i can salvage.
>> I guess to make the java code so can fit into the Junit tests framework.
>>
>>
>> Jacques Le Roux sent the following on 2/24/2010 12:19 AM:
>>> Hi BJ,
>>>
>>> Then Selenium should be the way...
>>>
>>> Jacques
>>>
>>> From: "BJ Freeman" <bj...@free-man.net>
>>>> Those type of tests were not what I had in mind.
>>>> they are modular so are not dependent on the previous modules.
>>>> first the order is read in using all the services that would be used to
>>>> receive an order, no stuffing data into an entity.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I am talking about starting with a order then doing all the operation
>>>> till it is complete then checking the GL to see if it has correct amount.
>>>>
>>>> the data I use has also been run through an accounting application in
>>>> parallel to match the results.
>>>>
>>>> for the whole year the test unit reads in orders stored in files.
>>>> checking the GL data as each order is completed. The test takes a couple
>>>> of weeks.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Anil Patel sent the following on 2/23/2010 4:16 PM:
>>>>> Look for contents in
>>>>> OrderTest.xml
>>>>> accountingtests.xml
>>>>> invoicetests.xml
>>>>> paymenttests.xml
>>>>>
>>>>> Please give details what is not covered here and you will like see
>>>>> added.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks and Regards
>>>>> Anil Patel
>>>>> HotWax Media Inc
>>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz"
>>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 6:45 PM, BJ Freeman wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> can you give me a lead in to those, what is the top Junit for those
>>>>>> three.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anil Patel sent the following on 2/23/2010 2:54 PM:
>>>>>>> BJ,
>>>>>>> All these work OOTB even today. Will you take that statement?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We need real details that will allow writing Unit Tests and
>>>>>>> Selenium tests and at times have developer do tests and be able to
>>>>>>> reproduce results.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks and Regards
>>>>>>> Anil Patel
>>>>>>> HotWax Media Inc
>>>>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 5:49 PM, BJ Freeman wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> the top level tests
>>>>>>>> 1) does an order, that is complete, come out in the GL properly
>>>>>>>> 2) same for Purchase Order.
>>>>>>>> 3) does a years worth for transactions balance.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Anil Patel sent the following on 2/23/2010 2:43 PM:
>>>>>>>>> This makes me think, What does a stable release mean to people?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ofbiz is such a big software with so many different ways of using
>>>>>>>>> it, for me its nearly impossible to say with confidence that its
>>>>>>>>> ready for release. Instead I will prefer to say, "We have tested
>>>>>>>>> following processes in Ofbiz and found them working ok".
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Are users of Ofbiz interested in helping with building list of
>>>>>>>>> Business Processes that they will like to see tested and declared
>>>>>>>>> functional. If you (users) help build the list, this will ensure
>>>>>>>>> that you get what you want.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Following are good place to start:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBREQDES/Universal+Business+Process+Library+Index
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBREQDES/OFBiz+EZBiz
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Essentially I am asking users to help build acceptance test
>>>>>>>>> documents. You (users) decide what you will take :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Does this make sense?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks and Regards
>>>>>>>>> Anil Patel
>>>>>>>>> HotWax Media Inc
>>>>>>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz"
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 5:29 PM, Tim Ruppert wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> What I'm telling you is that we may never be at a completely
>>>>>>>>>> stable release, by your definition, unless we stop moving -
>>>>>>>>>> which as I committer, I do not think will ever happen. What I
>>>>>>>>>> can say is that we would like to make branch - and stabilize it
>>>>>>>>>> - and by some chance - get to a point where we might have a
>>>>>>>>>> proper release. Does that sound interesting to you?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>> Ruppert
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 2:36 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Tim:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm hardly ever "right". And with all due respect, could we
>>>>>>>>>>> just stick to the original topic?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Just to clear the air and set the record straight: What I was
>>>>>>>>>>> asking for was a clear and unambiguous statement from the
>>>>>>>>>>> project concerning what is meant by "stable release" so that
>>>>>>>>>>> non-committers can choose for themselves which release and/or
>>>>>>>>>>> trunk version they wish to get started with.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>> Ruth
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Tim Ruppert wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Many, many committers continually add bug fixes to releases -
>>>>>>>>>>>> check the commit logs. I can't speak for everyone, but I
>>>>>>>>>>>> think that many of us are sitting here waiting for a new
>>>>>>>>>>>> release so that this can become more of the process that
>>>>>>>>>>>> people are pushing - including trying to encourage people to
>>>>>>>>>>>> use the releases - instead of just the trunk - which seemed to
>>>>>>>>>>>> be something you were asking for earlier.
>>>>>>>>>>>> So, be behind this - it's in your best interests and what
>>>>>>>>>>>> you've been clamoring for - instead of just trying to be
>>>>>>>>>>>> "right" all of the time ....
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ruppert
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 2:08 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Anil:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> How about a recent thread called "Rethinking our release
>>>>>>>>>>>>> strategy" dated Feb 15th, 2010 which I shall partially repeat
>>>>>>>>>>>>> here for your convenience:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * because of this, no real maintenance plan, test strategy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> etc..
>>>>>>>>>>>>> has been created around it (9.04) from the community of users
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> interested parties (in fact we were not really able to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> officially
>>>>>>>>>>>>> release it)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * a lot of new users start eveluating OFBiz from that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> instead of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the trunk
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * it is rather old, several new features are missing and also
>>>>>>>>>>>>> code improvements (that could fix bugs etc)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I thought all the bug fixes were retrofitted to the release?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is this not
>>>>>>>>>>>>> true?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * because of this, it tends to be less stable than the trunk
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How could the release be less stable than the trunk if bug
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fixes are
>>>>>>>>>>>>> applied to the release and the trunk?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The main cons of this situations are the following:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1) not real interest in maintaining a release branch means that
>>>>>>>>>>>>> we will not be able to spend time on it and officially
>>>>>>>>>>>>> release it:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the OFBiz community will miss the advantage of using the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> marketing
>>>>>>>>>>>>> channel represented by a new release
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2) new users will get the wrong impression that the project is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> slowing improving if they just get the releases
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> For a true sense of the thread, please see this quote in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> context. I'll give you a hint, no one from the project came
>>>>>>>>>>>>> out and said that bug fixes are applied to Releases. The
>>>>>>>>>>>>> implication (and thus non-statement) is that the "trunk" is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it as far as bug fixes are concerned.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ruth
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anil Patel wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ruth,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know which statement are you talking about. Can you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> please put that statement or non-statement here for ready
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reference? Thanks and Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anil Patel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> HotWax Media Inc
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "ofbiz"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 3:46 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Doesn't this contradict previous statements or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> non-statements about bug fixes in Release 9.04?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ruth
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David E Jones wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> One quick thing to note, that seems to be confused here:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the release branch is a tool for stabilization. It's great
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to do testing and fixing in the trunk, but the goal for a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release branch is not to be tested and bug-free from day
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one, but rather to be stable so that real testing and bug
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fixing can be done in the release branch without worrying
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about new things possibly breaking something, or any other
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> conflicting priorities.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 1:22 PM, Anil Patel wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Makes sense to me. If we are decided on date, we still
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have a month to go. Gives plenty of time, may be :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks and Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anil Patel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> HotWax Media Inc
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Keyword "ofbiz"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 10:40 AM, Adrian Crum wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It would be nice to get the new security code included
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the branch - even if it is disabled. That will give
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release users an introduction to it and give them a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chance to work on an upgrade strategy.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Adrian
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anil Patel wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, are we set for next Ofbiz Branch named 10.04 ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If we decide on _date_, I can have a team of developers
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> scheduled to start testing branch code. This will allow
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to quickly stabilize ofbiz release for common ecommerce
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> use.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How about EOD March 31st 10 GMT?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks and Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anil Patel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> HotWax Media Inc
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Keyword "ofbiz"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 15, 2010, at 6:40 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree but after Jacopo's message on dev ML about new
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release strategy (on which I mostly agree) I will at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> least delay it...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Bruno Busco" <br...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In order to have this kind of issue scheduling could
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you please create
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a new OFBIZ version in jira and set the Fix Version
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of these issue on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I do not see any clearer way to answer to Ashish
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> question.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Bruno
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2010/2/15 Jacques Le Roux
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <ja...@les7arts.com>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I expect to fulfill
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3442
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and maybe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3445
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In other word to use layer lookups instead of popup
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lookups everywhere it's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> possible in OFBiz.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From my 1st serie of tests it seems to work well
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> almost everywhere, WIP...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Ashish Vijaywargiya"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <vi...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think its time to start thinking on the things
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that should be taken
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> care in / before release branch 10.04.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bug fixing should be the major area which should be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> taken care
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> extensively in next two months.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What about new features etc. etc.?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please comment.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ashish
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 6:47 AM, David E Jones
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <de...@me.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is no set date yet. The last release was in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> April 2009 (hence the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> version number of 09.04 on it), and the one before
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that was about 2 years
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> before. Chances are it won't be another 2 years
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> before another release, but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> probably at least a year... so perhaps we'll do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> another release branch in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> around 4 months.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 14, 2009, at 3:37 PM, Juan Pablo wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Community.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm testing the last trunk version and the demo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> version published in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Internet (http://demo.ofbiz.org). They've got new
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> functionality: help on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> line, new themes, new features in accounting,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> manufacturing and ordermgr
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> components. The last stable versión is actually
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 9.04. So, ¿When will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ofbiz
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> try a new stable release version?.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gracias/Thank You.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Juan Pablo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
Re: selenium testing was New OFBiz stable release
Posted by BJ Freeman <bj...@free-man.net>.
Thanks I guess it is time to think about changing over from my Windows
based testing tool to selenium.
found some youtube tutorials.
under
selenium testing
Maybe make some video on ofbiz to get more involvement.
see what i can salvage.
I guess to make the java code so can fit into the Junit tests framework.
Jacques Le Roux sent the following on 2/24/2010 12:19 AM:
> Hi BJ,
>
> Then Selenium should be the way...
>
> Jacques
>
> From: "BJ Freeman" <bj...@free-man.net>
>> Those type of tests were not what I had in mind.
>> they are modular so are not dependent on the previous modules.
>> first the order is read in using all the services that would be used to
>> receive an order, no stuffing data into an entity.
>>
>>
>> I am talking about starting with a order then doing all the operation
>> till it is complete then checking the GL to see if it has correct amount.
>>
>> the data I use has also been run through an accounting application in
>> parallel to match the results.
>>
>> for the whole year the test unit reads in orders stored in files.
>> checking the GL data as each order is completed. The test takes a couple
>> of weeks.
>>
>>
>>
>> Anil Patel sent the following on 2/23/2010 4:16 PM:
>>> Look for contents in
>>> OrderTest.xml
>>> accountingtests.xml
>>> invoicetests.xml
>>> paymenttests.xml
>>>
>>> Please give details what is not covered here and you will like see
>>> added.
>>>
>>> Thanks and Regards
>>> Anil Patel
>>> HotWax Media Inc
>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz"
>>>
>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 6:45 PM, BJ Freeman wrote:
>>>
>>>> can you give me a lead in to those, what is the top Junit for those
>>>> three.
>>>>
>>>> Anil Patel sent the following on 2/23/2010 2:54 PM:
>>>>> BJ,
>>>>> All these work OOTB even today. Will you take that statement?
>>>>>
>>>>> We need real details that will allow writing Unit Tests and
>>>>> Selenium tests and at times have developer do tests and be able to
>>>>> reproduce results.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks and Regards
>>>>> Anil Patel
>>>>> HotWax Media Inc
>>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz"
>>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 5:49 PM, BJ Freeman wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> the top level tests
>>>>>> 1) does an order, that is complete, come out in the GL properly
>>>>>> 2) same for Purchase Order.
>>>>>> 3) does a years worth for transactions balance.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anil Patel sent the following on 2/23/2010 2:43 PM:
>>>>>>> This makes me think, What does a stable release mean to people?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ofbiz is such a big software with so many different ways of using
>>>>>>> it, for me its nearly impossible to say with confidence that its
>>>>>>> ready for release. Instead I will prefer to say, "We have tested
>>>>>>> following processes in Ofbiz and found them working ok".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Are users of Ofbiz interested in helping with building list of
>>>>>>> Business Processes that they will like to see tested and declared
>>>>>>> functional. If you (users) help build the list, this will ensure
>>>>>>> that you get what you want.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Following are good place to start:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBREQDES/Universal+Business+Process+Library+Index
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBREQDES/OFBiz+EZBiz
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Essentially I am asking users to help build acceptance test
>>>>>>> documents. You (users) decide what you will take :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Does this make sense?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks and Regards
>>>>>>> Anil Patel
>>>>>>> HotWax Media Inc
>>>>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 5:29 PM, Tim Ruppert wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What I'm telling you is that we may never be at a completely
>>>>>>>> stable release, by your definition, unless we stop moving -
>>>>>>>> which as I committer, I do not think will ever happen. What I
>>>>>>>> can say is that we would like to make branch - and stabilize it
>>>>>>>> - and by some chance - get to a point where we might have a
>>>>>>>> proper release. Does that sound interesting to you?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>> Ruppert
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 2:36 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Tim:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm hardly ever "right". And with all due respect, could we
>>>>>>>>> just stick to the original topic?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Just to clear the air and set the record straight: What I was
>>>>>>>>> asking for was a clear and unambiguous statement from the
>>>>>>>>> project concerning what is meant by "stable release" so that
>>>>>>>>> non-committers can choose for themselves which release and/or
>>>>>>>>> trunk version they wish to get started with.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>> Ruth
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Tim Ruppert wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Many, many committers continually add bug fixes to releases -
>>>>>>>>>> check the commit logs. I can't speak for everyone, but I
>>>>>>>>>> think that many of us are sitting here waiting for a new
>>>>>>>>>> release so that this can become more of the process that
>>>>>>>>>> people are pushing - including trying to encourage people to
>>>>>>>>>> use the releases - instead of just the trunk - which seemed to
>>>>>>>>>> be something you were asking for earlier.
>>>>>>>>>> So, be behind this - it's in your best interests and what
>>>>>>>>>> you've been clamoring for - instead of just trying to be
>>>>>>>>>> "right" all of the time ....
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>> Ruppert
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 2:08 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Anil:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> How about a recent thread called "Rethinking our release
>>>>>>>>>>> strategy" dated Feb 15th, 2010 which I shall partially repeat
>>>>>>>>>>> here for your convenience:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> * because of this, no real maintenance plan, test strategy
>>>>>>>>>>>> etc..
>>>>>>>>>>> has been created around it (9.04) from the community of users
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> interested parties (in fact we were not really able to
>>>>>>>>>>> officially
>>>>>>>>>>> release it)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> * a lot of new users start eveluating OFBiz from that
>>>>>>>>>>>> instead of
>>>>>>>>>>> the trunk
>>>>>>>>>>>> * it is rather old, several new features are missing and also
>>>>>>>>>>> code improvements (that could fix bugs etc)
>>>>>>>>>>>> I thought all the bug fixes were retrofitted to the release?
>>>>>>>>>>>> Is this not
>>>>>>>>>>> true?
>>>>>>>>>>>> * because of this, it tends to be less stable than the trunk
>>>>>>>>>>>> How could the release be less stable than the trunk if bug
>>>>>>>>>>>> fixes are
>>>>>>>>>>> applied to the release and the trunk?
>>>>>>>>>>>> The main cons of this situations are the following:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 1) not real interest in maintaining a release branch means that
>>>>>>>>>>> we will not be able to spend time on it and officially
>>>>>>>>>>> release it:
>>>>>>>>>>> the OFBiz community will miss the advantage of using the
>>>>>>>>>>> marketing
>>>>>>>>>>> channel represented by a new release
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2) new users will get the wrong impression that the project is
>>>>>>>>>>> slowing improving if they just get the releases
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> For a true sense of the thread, please see this quote in
>>>>>>>>>>> context. I'll give you a hint, no one from the project came
>>>>>>>>>>> out and said that bug fixes are applied to Releases. The
>>>>>>>>>>> implication (and thus non-statement) is that the "trunk" is
>>>>>>>>>>> it as far as bug fixes are concerned.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>> Ruth
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Anil Patel wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ruth,
>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know which statement are you talking about. Can you
>>>>>>>>>>>> please put that statement or non-statement here for ready
>>>>>>>>>>>> reference? Thanks and Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>> Anil Patel
>>>>>>>>>>>> HotWax Media Inc
>>>>>>>>>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword
>>>>>>>>>>>> "ofbiz"
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 3:46 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Doesn't this contradict previous statements or
>>>>>>>>>>>>> non-statements about bug fixes in Release 9.04?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ruth
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> David E Jones wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> One quick thing to note, that seems to be confused here:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the release branch is a tool for stabilization. It's great
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to do testing and fixing in the trunk, but the goal for a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release branch is not to be tested and bug-free from day
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one, but rather to be stable so that real testing and bug
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fixing can be done in the release branch without worrying
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about new things possibly breaking something, or any other
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> conflicting priorities.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 1:22 PM, Anil Patel wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Makes sense to me. If we are decided on date, we still
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have a month to go. Gives plenty of time, may be :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks and Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anil Patel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> HotWax Media Inc
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Keyword "ofbiz"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 10:40 AM, Adrian Crum wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It would be nice to get the new security code included
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the branch - even if it is disabled. That will give
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release users an introduction to it and give them a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chance to work on an upgrade strategy.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Adrian
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anil Patel wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, are we set for next Ofbiz Branch named 10.04 ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If we decide on _date_, I can have a team of developers
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> scheduled to start testing branch code. This will allow
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to quickly stabilize ofbiz release for common ecommerce
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> use.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How about EOD March 31st 10 GMT?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks and Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anil Patel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> HotWax Media Inc
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Keyword "ofbiz"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 15, 2010, at 6:40 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree but after Jacopo's message on dev ML about new
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release strategy (on which I mostly agree) I will at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> least delay it...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Bruno Busco" <br...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In order to have this kind of issue scheduling could
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you please create
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a new OFBIZ version in jira and set the Fix Version
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of these issue on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I do not see any clearer way to answer to Ashish
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> question.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Bruno
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2010/2/15 Jacques Le Roux
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <ja...@les7arts.com>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I expect to fulfill
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3442
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and maybe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3445
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In other word to use layer lookups instead of popup
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lookups everywhere it's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> possible in OFBiz.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From my 1st serie of tests it seems to work well
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> almost everywhere, WIP...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Ashish Vijaywargiya"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <vi...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think its time to start thinking on the things
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that should be taken
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> care in / before release branch 10.04.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bug fixing should be the major area which should be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> taken care
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> extensively in next two months.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What about new features etc. etc.?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please comment.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ashish
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 6:47 AM, David E Jones
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <de...@me.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is no set date yet. The last release was in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> April 2009 (hence the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> version number of 09.04 on it), and the one before
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that was about 2 years
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> before. Chances are it won't be another 2 years
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> before another release, but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> probably at least a year... so perhaps we'll do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> another release branch in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> around 4 months.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 14, 2009, at 3:37 PM, Juan Pablo wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Community.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm testing the last trunk version and the demo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> version published in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Internet (http://demo.ofbiz.org). They've got new
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> functionality: help on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> line, new themes, new features in accounting,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> manufacturing and ordermgr
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> components. The last stable versión is actually
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 9.04. So, ¿When will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ofbiz
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> try a new stable release version?.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gracias/Thank You.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Juan Pablo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
>
Re: selenium testing storing scripts
Posted by Erwan de FERRIERES <er...@nereide.fr>.
On 24/02/2010 19:07, BJ Freeman wrote:
> assuming every user provide a selenium script of what they do to build a
> library for testing, where could we put these. Maybe a jira?
>
>
There are already 2 seleniumXml in OFBiz, but creating an umbrella JIRA
issue could be a good start to list the already done job.
At Nereide, we've already a bunch of them, waiting to be integrated. The
only thing that make me wait is that SeleniumXml is not as powerful as
our IC server...
As I said before, we can't log actions, and there is no possibility to
keep track of what has be done (results in error, screenshots, etc...)
I tried to improve the seleniumXml framework, but I am running out of
time at the moment. Moreover the manner I developed this improvement is
maybe not the best (should use JUnit), and I would really like to work
with others on this particular point of OFBiz improvement.
Regards,
--
Erwan de FERRIERES
www.nereide.biz
Re: New OFBiz stable release
Posted by Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>.
Hi BJ,
Then Selenium should be the way...
Jacques
From: "BJ Freeman" <bj...@free-man.net>
> Those type of tests were not what I had in mind.
> they are modular so are not dependent on the previous modules.
> first the order is read in using all the services that would be used to
> receive an order, no stuffing data into an entity.
>
>
> I am talking about starting with a order then doing all the operation
> till it is complete then checking the GL to see if it has correct amount.
>
> the data I use has also been run through an accounting application in
> parallel to match the results.
>
> for the whole year the test unit reads in orders stored in files.
> checking the GL data as each order is completed. The test takes a couple
> of weeks.
>
>
>
> Anil Patel sent the following on 2/23/2010 4:16 PM:
>> Look for contents in
>> OrderTest.xml
>> accountingtests.xml
>> invoicetests.xml
>> paymenttests.xml
>>
>> Please give details what is not covered here and you will like see added.
>>
>> Thanks and Regards
>> Anil Patel
>> HotWax Media Inc
>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz"
>>
>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 6:45 PM, BJ Freeman wrote:
>>
>>> can you give me a lead in to those, what is the top Junit for those three.
>>>
>>> Anil Patel sent the following on 2/23/2010 2:54 PM:
>>>> BJ,
>>>> All these work OOTB even today. Will you take that statement?
>>>>
>>>> We need real details that will allow writing Unit Tests and Selenium tests and at times have developer do tests and be able to
>>>> reproduce results.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks and Regards
>>>> Anil Patel
>>>> HotWax Media Inc
>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz"
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 5:49 PM, BJ Freeman wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> the top level tests
>>>>> 1) does an order, that is complete, come out in the GL properly
>>>>> 2) same for Purchase Order.
>>>>> 3) does a years worth for transactions balance.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Anil Patel sent the following on 2/23/2010 2:43 PM:
>>>>>> This makes me think, What does a stable release mean to people?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ofbiz is such a big software with so many different ways of using it, for me its nearly impossible to say with confidence
>>>>>> that its ready for release. Instead I will prefer to say, "We have tested following processes in Ofbiz and found them
>>>>>> working ok".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are users of Ofbiz interested in helping with building list of Business Processes that they will like to see tested and
>>>>>> declared functional. If you (users) help build the list, this will ensure that you get what you want.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Following are good place to start:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBREQDES/Universal+Business+Process+Library+Index
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBREQDES/OFBiz+EZBiz
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Essentially I am asking users to help build acceptance test documents. You (users) decide what you will take :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Does this make sense?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks and Regards
>>>>>> Anil Patel
>>>>>> HotWax Media Inc
>>>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 5:29 PM, Tim Ruppert wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What I'm telling you is that we may never be at a completely stable release, by your definition, unless we stop moving -
>>>>>>> which as I committer, I do not think will ever happen. What I can say is that we would like to make branch - and stabilize
>>>>>>> it - and by some chance - get to a point where we might have a proper release. Does that sound interesting to you?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> Ruppert
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 2:36 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Tim:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm hardly ever "right". And with all due respect, could we just stick to the original topic?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Just to clear the air and set the record straight: What I was asking for was a clear and unambiguous statement from the
>>>>>>>> project concerning what is meant by "stable release" so that non-committers can choose for themselves which release and/or
>>>>>>>> trunk version they wish to get started with.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>> Ruth
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Tim Ruppert wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Many, many committers continually add bug fixes to releases - check the commit logs. I can't speak for everyone, but I
>>>>>>>>> think that many of us are sitting here waiting for a new release so that this can become more of the process that people
>>>>>>>>> are pushing - including trying to encourage people to use the releases - instead of just the trunk - which seemed to be
>>>>>>>>> something you were asking for earlier.
>>>>>>>>> So, be behind this - it's in your best interests and what you've been clamoring for - instead of just trying to be "right"
>>>>>>>>> all of the time ....
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>> Ruppert
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 2:08 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hello Anil:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> How about a recent thread called "Rethinking our release strategy" dated Feb 15th, 2010 which I shall partially repeat
>>>>>>>>>> here for your convenience:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> * because of this, no real maintenance plan, test strategy etc..
>>>>>>>>>> has been created around it (9.04) from the community of users and
>>>>>>>>>> interested parties (in fact we were not really able to officially
>>>>>>>>>> release it)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> * a lot of new users start eveluating OFBiz from that instead of
>>>>>>>>>> the trunk
>>>>>>>>>>> * it is rather old, several new features are missing and also
>>>>>>>>>> code improvements (that could fix bugs etc)
>>>>>>>>>>> I thought all the bug fixes were retrofitted to the release? Is this not
>>>>>>>>>> true?
>>>>>>>>>>> * because of this, it tends to be less stable than the trunk
>>>>>>>>>>> How could the release be less stable than the trunk if bug fixes are
>>>>>>>>>> applied to the release and the trunk?
>>>>>>>>>>> The main cons of this situations are the following:
>>>>>>>>>>> 1) not real interest in maintaining a release branch means that
>>>>>>>>>> we will not be able to spend time on it and officially release it:
>>>>>>>>>> the OFBiz community will miss the advantage of using the marketing
>>>>>>>>>> channel represented by a new release
>>>>>>>>>>> 2) new users will get the wrong impression that the project is
>>>>>>>>>> slowing improving if they just get the releases
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> For a true sense of the thread, please see this quote in context. I'll give you a hint, no one from the project came out
>>>>>>>>>> and said that bug fixes are applied to Releases. The implication (and thus non-statement) is that the "trunk" is it as
>>>>>>>>>> far as bug fixes are concerned.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>> Ruth
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Anil Patel wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Ruth,
>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know which statement are you talking about. Can you please put that statement or non-statement here for ready
>>>>>>>>>>> reference? Thanks and Regards
>>>>>>>>>>> Anil Patel
>>>>>>>>>>> HotWax Media Inc
>>>>>>>>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz"
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 3:46 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Doesn't this contradict previous statements or non-statements about bug fixes in Release 9.04?
>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ruth
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> David E Jones wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> One quick thing to note, that seems to be confused here: the release branch is a tool for stabilization. It's great to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> do testing and fixing in the trunk, but the goal for a release branch is not to be tested and bug-free from day one,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> but rather to be stable so that real testing and bug fixing can be done in the release branch without worrying about
>>>>>>>>>>>>> new things possibly breaking something, or any other conflicting priorities.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 1:22 PM, Anil Patel wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Makes sense to me. If we are decided on date, we still have a month to go. Gives plenty of time, may be :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks and Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anil Patel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> HotWax Media Inc
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 10:40 AM, Adrian Crum wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It would be nice to get the new security code included in the branch - even if it is disabled. That will give
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release users an introduction to it and give them a chance to work on an upgrade strategy.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Adrian
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anil Patel wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, are we set for next Ofbiz Branch named 10.04 ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If we decide on _date_, I can have a team of developers scheduled to start testing branch code. This will allow to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quickly stabilize ofbiz release for common ecommerce use.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How about EOD March 31st 10 GMT?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks and Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anil Patel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> HotWax Media Inc
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 15, 2010, at 6:40 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree but after Jacopo's message on dev ML about new release strategy (on which I mostly agree) I will at least
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> delay it...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Bruno Busco" <br...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In order to have this kind of issue scheduling could you please create
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a new OFBIZ version in jira and set the Fix Version of these issue on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I do not see any clearer way to answer to Ashish question.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Bruno
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2010/2/15 Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I expect to fulfill
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3442
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and maybe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3445
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In other word to use layer lookups instead of popup lookups everywhere it's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> possible in OFBiz.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From my 1st serie of tests it seems to work well almost everywhere, WIP...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Ashish Vijaywargiya" <vi...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think its time to start thinking on the things that should be taken
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> care in / before release branch 10.04.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bug fixing should be the major area which should be taken care
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> extensively in next two months.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What about new features etc. etc.?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please comment.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ashish
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 6:47 AM, David E Jones <de...@me.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is no set date yet. The last release was in April 2009 (hence the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> version number of 09.04 on it), and the one before that was about 2 years
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> before. Chances are it won't be another 2 years before another release, but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> probably at least a year... so perhaps we'll do another release branch in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> around 4 months.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 14, 2009, at 3:37 PM, Juan Pablo wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Community.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm testing the last trunk version and the demo version published in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Internet (http://demo.ofbiz.org). They've got new functionality: help on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> line, new themes, new features in accounting, manufacturing and ordermgr
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> components. The last stable versión is actually 9.04. So, ¿When will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ofbiz
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> try a new stable release version?.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gracias/Thank You.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Juan Pablo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>
Re: selenium testing storing scripts
Posted by BJ Freeman <bj...@free-man.net>.
assuming every user provide a selenium script of what they do to build a
library for testing, where could we put these. Maybe a jira?
BJ Freeman sent the following on 2/24/2010 8:09 AM:
> Thanks I guess it is time to think about changing over from my Windows
> based testing tool to selenium.
> found some youtube tutorials.
> under
> selenium testing
> Maybe make some video on ofbiz to get more involvement.
>
> see what i can salvage.
> I guess to make the java code so can fit into the Junit tests framework.
>
>
> Jacques Le Roux sent the following on 2/24/2010 12:19 AM:
>> Hi BJ,
>>
>> Then Selenium should be the way...
>>
>> Jacques
>>
>> From: "BJ Freeman" <bj...@free-man.net>
>>> Those type of tests were not what I had in mind.
>>> they are modular so are not dependent on the previous modules.
>>> first the order is read in using all the services that would be used to
>>> receive an order, no stuffing data into an entity.
>>>
>>>
>>> I am talking about starting with a order then doing all the operation
>>> till it is complete then checking the GL to see if it has correct amount.
>>>
>>> the data I use has also been run through an accounting application in
>>> parallel to match the results.
>>>
>>> for the whole year the test unit reads in orders stored in files.
>>> checking the GL data as each order is completed. The test takes a couple
>>> of weeks.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Anil Patel sent the following on 2/23/2010 4:16 PM:
>>>> Look for contents in
>>>> OrderTest.xml
>>>> accountingtests.xml
>>>> invoicetests.xml
>>>> paymenttests.xml
>>>>
>>>> Please give details what is not covered here and you will like see
>>>> added.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks and Regards
>>>> Anil Patel
>>>> HotWax Media Inc
>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz"
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 6:45 PM, BJ Freeman wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> can you give me a lead in to those, what is the top Junit for those
>>>>> three.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anil Patel sent the following on 2/23/2010 2:54 PM:
>>>>>> BJ,
>>>>>> All these work OOTB even today. Will you take that statement?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We need real details that will allow writing Unit Tests and
>>>>>> Selenium tests and at times have developer do tests and be able to
>>>>>> reproduce results.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks and Regards
>>>>>> Anil Patel
>>>>>> HotWax Media Inc
>>>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 5:49 PM, BJ Freeman wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the top level tests
>>>>>>> 1) does an order, that is complete, come out in the GL properly
>>>>>>> 2) same for Purchase Order.
>>>>>>> 3) does a years worth for transactions balance.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anil Patel sent the following on 2/23/2010 2:43 PM:
>>>>>>>> This makes me think, What does a stable release mean to people?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ofbiz is such a big software with so many different ways of using
>>>>>>>> it, for me its nearly impossible to say with confidence that its
>>>>>>>> ready for release. Instead I will prefer to say, "We have tested
>>>>>>>> following processes in Ofbiz and found them working ok".
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Are users of Ofbiz interested in helping with building list of
>>>>>>>> Business Processes that they will like to see tested and declared
>>>>>>>> functional. If you (users) help build the list, this will ensure
>>>>>>>> that you get what you want.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Following are good place to start:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBREQDES/Universal+Business+Process+Library+Index
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBREQDES/OFBiz+EZBiz
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Essentially I am asking users to help build acceptance test
>>>>>>>> documents. You (users) decide what you will take :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Does this make sense?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks and Regards
>>>>>>>> Anil Patel
>>>>>>>> HotWax Media Inc
>>>>>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 5:29 PM, Tim Ruppert wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What I'm telling you is that we may never be at a completely
>>>>>>>>> stable release, by your definition, unless we stop moving -
>>>>>>>>> which as I committer, I do not think will ever happen. What I
>>>>>>>>> can say is that we would like to make branch - and stabilize it
>>>>>>>>> - and by some chance - get to a point where we might have a
>>>>>>>>> proper release. Does that sound interesting to you?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>> Ruppert
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 2:36 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Tim:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm hardly ever "right". And with all due respect, could we
>>>>>>>>>> just stick to the original topic?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Just to clear the air and set the record straight: What I was
>>>>>>>>>> asking for was a clear and unambiguous statement from the
>>>>>>>>>> project concerning what is meant by "stable release" so that
>>>>>>>>>> non-committers can choose for themselves which release and/or
>>>>>>>>>> trunk version they wish to get started with.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>> Ruth
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Tim Ruppert wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Many, many committers continually add bug fixes to releases -
>>>>>>>>>>> check the commit logs. I can't speak for everyone, but I
>>>>>>>>>>> think that many of us are sitting here waiting for a new
>>>>>>>>>>> release so that this can become more of the process that
>>>>>>>>>>> people are pushing - including trying to encourage people to
>>>>>>>>>>> use the releases - instead of just the trunk - which seemed to
>>>>>>>>>>> be something you were asking for earlier.
>>>>>>>>>>> So, be behind this - it's in your best interests and what
>>>>>>>>>>> you've been clamoring for - instead of just trying to be
>>>>>>>>>>> "right" all of the time ....
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>> Ruppert
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 2:08 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Anil:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> How about a recent thread called "Rethinking our release
>>>>>>>>>>>> strategy" dated Feb 15th, 2010 which I shall partially repeat
>>>>>>>>>>>> here for your convenience:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> * because of this, no real maintenance plan, test strategy
>>>>>>>>>>>>> etc..
>>>>>>>>>>>> has been created around it (9.04) from the community of users
>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>> interested parties (in fact we were not really able to
>>>>>>>>>>>> officially
>>>>>>>>>>>> release it)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> * a lot of new users start eveluating OFBiz from that
>>>>>>>>>>>>> instead of
>>>>>>>>>>>> the trunk
>>>>>>>>>>>>> * it is rather old, several new features are missing and also
>>>>>>>>>>>> code improvements (that could fix bugs etc)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I thought all the bug fixes were retrofitted to the release?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is this not
>>>>>>>>>>>> true?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> * because of this, it tends to be less stable than the trunk
>>>>>>>>>>>>> How could the release be less stable than the trunk if bug
>>>>>>>>>>>>> fixes are
>>>>>>>>>>>> applied to the release and the trunk?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The main cons of this situations are the following:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1) not real interest in maintaining a release branch means that
>>>>>>>>>>>> we will not be able to spend time on it and officially
>>>>>>>>>>>> release it:
>>>>>>>>>>>> the OFBiz community will miss the advantage of using the
>>>>>>>>>>>> marketing
>>>>>>>>>>>> channel represented by a new release
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2) new users will get the wrong impression that the project is
>>>>>>>>>>>> slowing improving if they just get the releases
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> For a true sense of the thread, please see this quote in
>>>>>>>>>>>> context. I'll give you a hint, no one from the project came
>>>>>>>>>>>> out and said that bug fixes are applied to Releases. The
>>>>>>>>>>>> implication (and thus non-statement) is that the "trunk" is
>>>>>>>>>>>> it as far as bug fixes are concerned.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ruth
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Anil Patel wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ruth,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know which statement are you talking about. Can you
>>>>>>>>>>>>> please put that statement or non-statement here for ready
>>>>>>>>>>>>> reference? Thanks and Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anil Patel
>>>>>>>>>>>>> HotWax Media Inc
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "ofbiz"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 3:46 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Doesn't this contradict previous statements or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> non-statements about bug fixes in Release 9.04?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ruth
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David E Jones wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> One quick thing to note, that seems to be confused here:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the release branch is a tool for stabilization. It's great
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to do testing and fixing in the trunk, but the goal for a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release branch is not to be tested and bug-free from day
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one, but rather to be stable so that real testing and bug
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fixing can be done in the release branch without worrying
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about new things possibly breaking something, or any other
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> conflicting priorities.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 1:22 PM, Anil Patel wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Makes sense to me. If we are decided on date, we still
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have a month to go. Gives plenty of time, may be :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks and Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anil Patel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> HotWax Media Inc
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Keyword "ofbiz"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 10:40 AM, Adrian Crum wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It would be nice to get the new security code included
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the branch - even if it is disabled. That will give
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release users an introduction to it and give them a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chance to work on an upgrade strategy.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Adrian
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anil Patel wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, are we set for next Ofbiz Branch named 10.04 ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If we decide on _date_, I can have a team of developers
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> scheduled to start testing branch code. This will allow
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to quickly stabilize ofbiz release for common ecommerce
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> use.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How about EOD March 31st 10 GMT?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks and Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anil Patel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> HotWax Media Inc
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Keyword "ofbiz"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 15, 2010, at 6:40 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree but after Jacopo's message on dev ML about new
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release strategy (on which I mostly agree) I will at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> least delay it...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Bruno Busco" <br...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In order to have this kind of issue scheduling could
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you please create
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a new OFBIZ version in jira and set the Fix Version
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of these issue on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I do not see any clearer way to answer to Ashish
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> question.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Bruno
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2010/2/15 Jacques Le Roux
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <ja...@les7arts.com>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I expect to fulfill
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3442
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and maybe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3445
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In other word to use layer lookups instead of popup
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lookups everywhere it's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> possible in OFBiz.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From my 1st serie of tests it seems to work well
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> almost everywhere, WIP...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Ashish Vijaywargiya"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <vi...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think its time to start thinking on the things
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that should be taken
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> care in / before release branch 10.04.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bug fixing should be the major area which should be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> taken care
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> extensively in next two months.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What about new features etc. etc.?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please comment.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ashish
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 6:47 AM, David E Jones
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <de...@me.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is no set date yet. The last release was in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> April 2009 (hence the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> version number of 09.04 on it), and the one before
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that was about 2 years
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> before. Chances are it won't be another 2 years
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> before another release, but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> probably at least a year... so perhaps we'll do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> another release branch in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> around 4 months.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 14, 2009, at 3:37 PM, Juan Pablo wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Community.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm testing the last trunk version and the demo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> version published in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Internet (http://demo.ofbiz.org). They've got new
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> functionality: help on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> line, new themes, new features in accounting,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> manufacturing and ordermgr
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> components. The last stable versión is actually
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 9.04. So, ¿When will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ofbiz
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> try a new stable release version?.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gracias/Thank You.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Juan Pablo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>
>
Re: New OFBiz stable release
Posted by BJ Freeman <bj...@free-man.net>.
Those type of tests were not what I had in mind.
they are modular so are not dependent on the previous modules.
first the order is read in using all the services that would be used to
receive an order, no stuffing data into an entity.
I am talking about starting with a order then doing all the operation
till it is complete then checking the GL to see if it has correct amount.
the data I use has also been run through an accounting application in
parallel to match the results.
for the whole year the test unit reads in orders stored in files.
checking the GL data as each order is completed. The test takes a couple
of weeks.
Anil Patel sent the following on 2/23/2010 4:16 PM:
> Look for contents in
> OrderTest.xml
> accountingtests.xml
> invoicetests.xml
> paymenttests.xml
>
> Please give details what is not covered here and you will like see added.
>
> Thanks and Regards
> Anil Patel
> HotWax Media Inc
> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz"
>
> On Feb 23, 2010, at 6:45 PM, BJ Freeman wrote:
>
>> can you give me a lead in to those, what is the top Junit for those three.
>>
>> Anil Patel sent the following on 2/23/2010 2:54 PM:
>>> BJ,
>>> All these work OOTB even today. Will you take that statement?
>>>
>>> We need real details that will allow writing Unit Tests and Selenium tests and at times have developer do tests and be able to reproduce results.
>>>
>>> Thanks and Regards
>>> Anil Patel
>>> HotWax Media Inc
>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz"
>>>
>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 5:49 PM, BJ Freeman wrote:
>>>
>>>> the top level tests
>>>> 1) does an order, that is complete, come out in the GL properly
>>>> 2) same for Purchase Order.
>>>> 3) does a years worth for transactions balance.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Anil Patel sent the following on 2/23/2010 2:43 PM:
>>>>> This makes me think, What does a stable release mean to people?
>>>>>
>>>>> Ofbiz is such a big software with so many different ways of using it, for me its nearly impossible to say with confidence that its ready for release. Instead I will prefer to say, "We have tested following processes in Ofbiz and found them working ok".
>>>>>
>>>>> Are users of Ofbiz interested in helping with building list of Business Processes that they will like to see tested and declared functional. If you (users) help build the list, this will ensure that you get what you want.
>>>>>
>>>>> Following are good place to start:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBREQDES/Universal+Business+Process+Library+Index
>>>>>
>>>>> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBREQDES/OFBiz+EZBiz
>>>>>
>>>>> Essentially I am asking users to help build acceptance test documents. You (users) decide what you will take :)
>>>>>
>>>>> Does this make sense?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks and Regards
>>>>> Anil Patel
>>>>> HotWax Media Inc
>>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz"
>>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 5:29 PM, Tim Ruppert wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> What I'm telling you is that we may never be at a completely stable release, by your definition, unless we stop moving - which as I committer, I do not think will ever happen. What I can say is that we would like to make branch - and stabilize it - and by some chance - get to a point where we might have a proper release. Does that sound interesting to you?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Ruppert
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 2:36 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Tim:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm hardly ever "right". And with all due respect, could we just stick to the original topic?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just to clear the air and set the record straight: What I was asking for was a clear and unambiguous statement from the project concerning what is meant by "stable release" so that non-committers can choose for themselves which release and/or trunk version they wish to get started with.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> Ruth
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tim Ruppert wrote:
>>>>>>>> Many, many committers continually add bug fixes to releases - check the commit logs. I can't speak for everyone, but I think that many of us are sitting here waiting for a new release so that this can become more of the process that people are pushing - including trying to encourage people to use the releases - instead of just the trunk - which seemed to be something you were asking for earlier.
>>>>>>>> So, be behind this - it's in your best interests and what you've been clamoring for - instead of just trying to be "right" all of the time ....
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>> Ruppert
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 2:08 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hello Anil:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> How about a recent thread called "Rethinking our release strategy" dated Feb 15th, 2010 which I shall partially repeat here for your convenience:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> * because of this, no real maintenance plan, test strategy etc..
>>>>>>>>> has been created around it (9.04) from the community of users and
>>>>>>>>> interested parties (in fact we were not really able to officially
>>>>>>>>> release it)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> * a lot of new users start eveluating OFBiz from that instead of
>>>>>>>>> the trunk
>>>>>>>>>> * it is rather old, several new features are missing and also
>>>>>>>>> code improvements (that could fix bugs etc)
>>>>>>>>>> I thought all the bug fixes were retrofitted to the release? Is this not
>>>>>>>>> true?
>>>>>>>>>> * because of this, it tends to be less stable than the trunk
>>>>>>>>>> How could the release be less stable than the trunk if bug fixes are
>>>>>>>>> applied to the release and the trunk?
>>>>>>>>>> The main cons of this situations are the following:
>>>>>>>>>> 1) not real interest in maintaining a release branch means that
>>>>>>>>> we will not be able to spend time on it and officially release it:
>>>>>>>>> the OFBiz community will miss the advantage of using the marketing
>>>>>>>>> channel represented by a new release
>>>>>>>>>> 2) new users will get the wrong impression that the project is
>>>>>>>>> slowing improving if they just get the releases
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> For a true sense of the thread, please see this quote in context. I'll give you a hint, no one from the project came out and said that bug fixes are applied to Releases. The implication (and thus non-statement) is that the "trunk" is it as far as bug fixes are concerned.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>> Ruth
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Anil Patel wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Ruth,
>>>>>>>>>> I don't know which statement are you talking about. Can you please put that statement or non-statement here for ready reference? Thanks and Regards
>>>>>>>>>> Anil Patel
>>>>>>>>>> HotWax Media Inc
>>>>>>>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz"
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 3:46 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Doesn't this contradict previous statements or non-statements about bug fixes in Release 9.04?
>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>> Ruth
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> David E Jones wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> One quick thing to note, that seems to be confused here: the release branch is a tool for stabilization. It's great to do testing and fixing in the trunk, but the goal for a release branch is not to be tested and bug-free from day one, but rather to be stable so that real testing and bug fixing can be done in the release branch without worrying about new things possibly breaking something, or any other conflicting priorities.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 1:22 PM, Anil Patel wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Makes sense to me. If we are decided on date, we still have a month to go. Gives plenty of time, may be :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks and Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anil Patel
>>>>>>>>>>>>> HotWax Media Inc
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 10:40 AM, Adrian Crum wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It would be nice to get the new security code included in the branch - even if it is disabled. That will give release users an introduction to it and give them a chance to work on an upgrade strategy.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Adrian
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anil Patel wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, are we set for next Ofbiz Branch named 10.04 ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If we decide on _date_, I can have a team of developers scheduled to start testing branch code. This will allow to quickly stabilize ofbiz release for common ecommerce use.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How about EOD March 31st 10 GMT?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks and Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anil Patel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> HotWax Media Inc
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 15, 2010, at 6:40 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree but after Jacopo's message on dev ML about new release strategy (on which I mostly agree) I will at least delay it...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Bruno Busco" <br...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In order to have this kind of issue scheduling could you please create
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a new OFBIZ version in jira and set the Fix Version of these issue on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I do not see any clearer way to answer to Ashish question.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Bruno
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2010/2/15 Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I expect to fulfill
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3442
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and maybe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3445
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In other word to use layer lookups instead of popup lookups everywhere it's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> possible in OFBiz.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From my 1st serie of tests it seems to work well almost everywhere, WIP...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Ashish Vijaywargiya" <vi...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think its time to start thinking on the things that should be taken
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> care in / before release branch 10.04.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bug fixing should be the major area which should be taken care
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> extensively in next two months.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What about new features etc. etc.?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please comment.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ashish
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 6:47 AM, David E Jones <de...@me.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is no set date yet. The last release was in April 2009 (hence the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> version number of 09.04 on it), and the one before that was about 2 years
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> before. Chances are it won't be another 2 years before another release, but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> probably at least a year... so perhaps we'll do another release branch in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> around 4 months.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 14, 2009, at 3:37 PM, Juan Pablo wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Community.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm testing the last trunk version and the demo version published in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Internet (http://demo.ofbiz.org). They've got new functionality: help on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> line, new themes, new features in accounting, manufacturing and ordermgr
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> components. The last stable versión is actually 9.04. So, ¿When will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ofbiz
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> try a new stable release version?.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gracias/Thank You.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Juan Pablo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>
>
>
Re: New OFBiz stable release
Posted by BJ Freeman <bj...@free-man.net>.
the top level tests
1) does an order, that is complete, come out in the GL properly
2) same for Purchase Order.
3) does a years worth for transactions balance.
Anil Patel sent the following on 2/23/2010 2:43 PM:
> This makes me think, What does a stable release mean to people?
>
> Ofbiz is such a big software with so many different ways of using it, for me its nearly impossible to say with confidence that its ready for release. Instead I will prefer to say, "We have tested following processes in Ofbiz and found them working ok".
>
> Are users of Ofbiz interested in helping with building list of Business Processes that they will like to see tested and declared functional. If you (users) help build the list, this will ensure that you get what you want.
>
> Following are good place to start:
>
> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBREQDES/Universal+Business+Process+Library+Index
>
> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBREQDES/OFBiz+EZBiz
>
> Essentially I am asking users to help build acceptance test documents. You (users) decide what you will take :)
>
> Does this make sense?
>
> Thanks and Regards
> Anil Patel
> HotWax Media Inc
> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz"
>
> On Feb 23, 2010, at 5:29 PM, Tim Ruppert wrote:
>
>> What I'm telling you is that we may never be at a completely stable release, by your definition, unless we stop moving - which as I committer, I do not think will ever happen. What I can say is that we would like to make branch - and stabilize it - and by some chance - get to a point where we might have a proper release. Does that sound interesting to you?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Ruppert
>>
>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 2:36 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Tim:
>>>
>>> I'm hardly ever "right". And with all due respect, could we just stick to the original topic?
>>>
>>> Just to clear the air and set the record straight: What I was asking for was a clear and unambiguous statement from the project concerning what is meant by "stable release" so that non-committers can choose for themselves which release and/or trunk version they wish to get started with.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Ruth
>>>
>>> Tim Ruppert wrote:
>>>> Many, many committers continually add bug fixes to releases - check the commit logs. I can't speak for everyone, but I think that many of us are sitting here waiting for a new release so that this can become more of the process that people are pushing - including trying to encourage people to use the releases - instead of just the trunk - which seemed to be something you were asking for earlier.
>>>> So, be behind this - it's in your best interests and what you've been clamoring for - instead of just trying to be "right" all of the time ....
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Ruppert
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 2:08 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hello Anil:
>>>>>
>>>>> How about a recent thread called "Rethinking our release strategy" dated Feb 15th, 2010 which I shall partially repeat here for your convenience:
>>>>>
>>>>>> * because of this, no real maintenance plan, test strategy etc..
>>>>> has been created around it (9.04) from the community of users and
>>>>> interested parties (in fact we were not really able to officially
>>>>> release it)
>>>>>
>>>>>> * a lot of new users start eveluating OFBiz from that instead of
>>>>> the trunk
>>>>>> * it is rather old, several new features are missing and also
>>>>> code improvements (that could fix bugs etc)
>>>>>> I thought all the bug fixes were retrofitted to the release? Is this not
>>>>> true?
>>>>>> * because of this, it tends to be less stable than the trunk
>>>>>> How could the release be less stable than the trunk if bug fixes are
>>>>> applied to the release and the trunk?
>>>>>> The main cons of this situations are the following:
>>>>>> 1) not real interest in maintaining a release branch means that
>>>>> we will not be able to spend time on it and officially release it:
>>>>> the OFBiz community will miss the advantage of using the marketing
>>>>> channel represented by a new release
>>>>>> 2) new users will get the wrong impression that the project is
>>>>> slowing improving if they just get the releases
>>>>>
>>>>> For a true sense of the thread, please see this quote in context. I'll give you a hint, no one from the project came out and said that bug fixes are applied to Releases. The implication (and thus non-statement) is that the "trunk" is it as far as bug fixes are concerned.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Ruth
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Anil Patel wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Ruth,
>>>>>> I don't know which statement are you talking about. Can you please put that statement or non-statement here for ready reference? Thanks and Regards
>>>>>> Anil Patel
>>>>>> HotWax Media Inc
>>>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 3:46 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Doesn't this contradict previous statements or non-statements about bug fixes in Release 9.04?
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> Ruth
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> David E Jones wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> One quick thing to note, that seems to be confused here: the release branch is a tool for stabilization. It's great to do testing and fixing in the trunk, but the goal for a release branch is not to be tested and bug-free from day one, but rather to be stable so that real testing and bug fixing can be done in the release branch without worrying about new things possibly breaking something, or any other conflicting priorities.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 1:22 PM, Anil Patel wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Makes sense to me. If we are decided on date, we still have a month to go. Gives plenty of time, may be :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks and Regards
>>>>>>>>> Anil Patel
>>>>>>>>> HotWax Media Inc
>>>>>>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz"
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 10:40 AM, Adrian Crum wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It would be nice to get the new security code included in the branch - even if it is disabled. That will give release users an introduction to it and give them a chance to work on an upgrade strategy.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -Adrian
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Anil Patel wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> So, are we set for next Ofbiz Branch named 10.04 ?
>>>>>>>>>>> If we decide on _date_, I can have a team of developers scheduled to start testing branch code. This will allow to quickly stabilize ofbiz release for common ecommerce use.
>>>>>>>>>>> How about EOD March 31st 10 GMT?
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks and Regards
>>>>>>>>>>> Anil Patel
>>>>>>>>>>> HotWax Media Inc
>>>>>>>>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz"
>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 15, 2010, at 6:40 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree but after Jacopo's message on dev ML about new release strategy (on which I mostly agree) I will at least delay it...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Bruno Busco" <br...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> In order to have this kind of issue scheduling could you please create
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a new OFBIZ version in jira and set the Fix Version of these issue on
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I do not see any clearer way to answer to Ashish question.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Bruno
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2010/2/15 Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I expect to fulfill
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3442
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and maybe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3445
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In other word to use layer lookups instead of popup lookups everywhere it's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> possible in OFBiz.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From my 1st serie of tests it seems to work well almost everywhere, WIP...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Ashish Vijaywargiya" <vi...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think its time to start thinking on the things that should be taken
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> care in / before release branch 10.04.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bug fixing should be the major area which should be taken care
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> extensively in next two months.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What about new features etc. etc.?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please comment.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ashish
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 6:47 AM, David E Jones <de...@me.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is no set date yet. The last release was in April 2009 (hence the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> version number of 09.04 on it), and the one before that was about 2 years
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> before. Chances are it won't be another 2 years before another release, but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> probably at least a year... so perhaps we'll do another release branch in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> around 4 months.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 14, 2009, at 3:37 PM, Juan Pablo wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Community.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm testing the last trunk version and the demo version published in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Internet (http://demo.ofbiz.org). They've got new functionality: help on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> line, new themes, new features in accounting, manufacturing and ordermgr
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> components. The last stable versión is actually 9.04. So, ¿When will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ofbiz
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> try a new stable release version?.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gracias/Thank You.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Juan Pablo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>
>
Re: New OFBiz stable release
Posted by Tim Ruppert <ti...@hotwaxmedia.com>.
What I'm telling you is that we may never be at a completely stable release, by your definition, unless we stop moving - which as I committer, I do not think will ever happen. What I can say is that we would like to make branch - and stabilize it - and by some chance - get to a point where we might have a proper release. Does that sound interesting to you?
Cheers,
Ruppert
On Feb 23, 2010, at 2:36 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
> Hi Tim:
>
> I'm hardly ever "right". And with all due respect, could we just stick to the original topic?
>
> Just to clear the air and set the record straight: What I was asking for was a clear and unambiguous statement from the project concerning what is meant by "stable release" so that non-committers can choose for themselves which release and/or trunk version they wish to get started with.
>
> Regards,
> Ruth
>
> Tim Ruppert wrote:
>> Many, many committers continually add bug fixes to releases - check the commit logs. I can't speak for everyone, but I think that many of us are sitting here waiting for a new release so that this can become more of the process that people are pushing - including trying to encourage people to use the releases - instead of just the trunk - which seemed to be something you were asking for earlier.
>> So, be behind this - it's in your best interests and what you've been clamoring for - instead of just trying to be "right" all of the time ....
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Ruppert
>>
>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 2:08 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Hello Anil:
>>>
>>> How about a recent thread called "Rethinking our release strategy" dated Feb 15th, 2010 which I shall partially repeat here for your convenience:
>>>
>>> > * because of this, no real maintenance plan, test strategy etc..
>>> has been created around it (9.04) from the community of users and
>>> interested parties (in fact we were not really able to officially
>>> release it)
>>>
>>> > * a lot of new users start eveluating OFBiz from that instead of
>>> the trunk
>>> > * it is rather old, several new features are missing and also
>>> code improvements (that could fix bugs etc)
>>> > I thought all the bug fixes were retrofitted to the release? Is this not
>>> true?
>>> > * because of this, it tends to be less stable than the trunk
>>> > How could the release be less stable than the trunk if bug fixes are
>>> applied to the release and the trunk?
>>> > The main cons of this situations are the following:
>>> > 1) not real interest in maintaining a release branch means that
>>> we will not be able to spend time on it and officially release it:
>>> the OFBiz community will miss the advantage of using the marketing
>>> channel represented by a new release
>>> > 2) new users will get the wrong impression that the project is
>>> slowing improving if they just get the releases
>>>
>>> For a true sense of the thread, please see this quote in context. I'll give you a hint, no one from the project came out and said that bug fixes are applied to Releases. The implication (and thus non-statement) is that the "trunk" is it as far as bug fixes are concerned.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Ruth
>>>
>>>
>>> Anil Patel wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ruth,
>>>> I don't know which statement are you talking about. Can you please put that statement or non-statement here for ready reference? Thanks and Regards
>>>> Anil Patel
>>>> HotWax Media Inc
>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz"
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 3:46 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Doesn't this contradict previous statements or non-statements about bug fixes in Release 9.04?
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Ruth
>>>>>
>>>>> David E Jones wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> One quick thing to note, that seems to be confused here: the release branch is a tool for stabilization. It's great to do testing and fixing in the trunk, but the goal for a release branch is not to be tested and bug-free from day one, but rather to be stable so that real testing and bug fixing can be done in the release branch without worrying about new things possibly breaking something, or any other conflicting priorities.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 1:22 PM, Anil Patel wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Makes sense to me. If we are decided on date, we still have a month to go. Gives plenty of time, may be :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks and Regards
>>>>>>> Anil Patel
>>>>>>> HotWax Media Inc
>>>>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 10:40 AM, Adrian Crum wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It would be nice to get the new security code included in the branch - even if it is disabled. That will give release users an introduction to it and give them a chance to work on an upgrade strategy.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -Adrian
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Anil Patel wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So, are we set for next Ofbiz Branch named 10.04 ?
>>>>>>>>> If we decide on _date_, I can have a team of developers scheduled to start testing branch code. This will allow to quickly stabilize ofbiz release for common ecommerce use.
>>>>>>>>> How about EOD March 31st 10 GMT?
>>>>>>>>> Thanks and Regards
>>>>>>>>> Anil Patel
>>>>>>>>> HotWax Media Inc
>>>>>>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz"
>>>>>>>>> On Feb 15, 2010, at 6:40 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I agree but after Jacopo's message on dev ML about new release strategy (on which I mostly agree) I will at least delay it...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> From: "Bruno Busco" <br...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> In order to have this kind of issue scheduling could you please create
>>>>>>>>>>> a new OFBIZ version in jira and set the Fix Version of these issue on
>>>>>>>>>>> that?
>>>>>>>>>>> I do not see any clearer way to answer to Ashish question.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> -Bruno
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 2010/2/15 Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I expect to fulfill
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3442
>>>>>>>>>>>> and maybe
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3445
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> In other word to use layer lookups instead of popup lookups everywhere it's
>>>>>>>>>>>> possible in OFBiz.
>>>>>>>>>>>> From my 1st serie of tests it seems to work well almost everywhere, WIP...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Ashish Vijaywargiya" <vi...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think its time to start thinking on the things that should be taken
>>>>>>>>>>>>> care in / before release branch 10.04.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bug fixing should be the major area which should be taken care
>>>>>>>>>>>>> extensively in next two months.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> What about new features etc. etc.?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please comment.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ashish
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 6:47 AM, David E Jones <de...@me.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is no set date yet. The last release was in April 2009 (hence the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> version number of 09.04 on it), and the one before that was about 2 years
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> before. Chances are it won't be another 2 years before another release, but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> probably at least a year... so perhaps we'll do another release branch in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> around 4 months.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 14, 2009, at 3:37 PM, Juan Pablo wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Community.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm testing the last trunk version and the demo version published in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Internet (http://demo.ofbiz.org). They've got new functionality: help on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> line, new themes, new features in accounting, manufacturing and ordermgr
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> components. The last stable versión is actually 9.04. So, ¿When will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ofbiz
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> try a new stable release version?.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gracias/Thank You.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Juan Pablo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
Re: New OFBiz stable release
Posted by Ruth Hoffman <rh...@aesolves.com>.
Hi Tim:
I'm hardly ever "right". And with all due respect, could we just stick
to the original topic?
Just to clear the air and set the record straight: What I was asking for
was a clear and unambiguous statement from the project concerning what
is meant by "stable release" so that non-committers can choose for
themselves which release and/or trunk version they wish to get started with.
Regards,
Ruth
Tim Ruppert wrote:
> Many, many committers continually add bug fixes to releases - check the commit logs. I can't speak for everyone, but I think that many of us are sitting here waiting for a new release so that this can become more of the process that people are pushing - including trying to encourage people to use the releases - instead of just the trunk - which seemed to be something you were asking for earlier.
>
> So, be behind this - it's in your best interests and what you've been clamoring for - instead of just trying to be "right" all of the time ....
>
> Cheers,
> Ruppert
>
> On Feb 23, 2010, at 2:08 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
>
>
>> Hello Anil:
>>
>> How about a recent thread called "Rethinking our release strategy" dated Feb 15th, 2010 which I shall partially repeat here for your convenience:
>>
>> > * because of this, no real maintenance plan, test strategy etc..
>> has been created around it (9.04) from the community of users and
>> interested parties (in fact we were not really able to officially
>> release it)
>>
>> > * a lot of new users start eveluating OFBiz from that instead of
>> the trunk
>> > * it is rather old, several new features are missing and also
>> code improvements (that could fix bugs etc)
>> > I thought all the bug fixes were retrofitted to the release? Is this not
>> true?
>> > * because of this, it tends to be less stable than the trunk
>> > How could the release be less stable than the trunk if bug fixes are
>> applied to the release and the trunk?
>> > The main cons of this situations are the following:
>> > 1) not real interest in maintaining a release branch means that
>> we will not be able to spend time on it and officially release it:
>> the OFBiz community will miss the advantage of using the marketing
>> channel represented by a new release
>> > 2) new users will get the wrong impression that the project is
>> slowing improving if they just get the releases
>>
>> For a true sense of the thread, please see this quote in context. I'll give you a hint, no one from the project came out and said that bug fixes are applied to Releases. The implication (and thus non-statement) is that the "trunk" is it as far as bug fixes are concerned.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Ruth
>>
>>
>> Anil Patel wrote:
>>
>>> Ruth,
>>> I don't know which statement are you talking about. Can you please put that statement or non-statement here for ready reference?
>>> Thanks and Regards
>>> Anil Patel
>>> HotWax Media Inc
>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz"
>>>
>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 3:46 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Doesn't this contradict previous statements or non-statements about bug fixes in Release 9.04?
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Ruth
>>>>
>>>> David E Jones wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> One quick thing to note, that seems to be confused here: the release branch is a tool for stabilization. It's great to do testing and fixing in the trunk, but the goal for a release branch is not to be tested and bug-free from day one, but rather to be stable so that real testing and bug fixing can be done in the release branch without worrying about new things possibly breaking something, or any other conflicting priorities.
>>>>>
>>>>> -David
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 1:22 PM, Anil Patel wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Makes sense to me. If we are decided on date, we still have a month to go. Gives plenty of time, may be :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks and Regards
>>>>>> Anil Patel
>>>>>> HotWax Media Inc
>>>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 10:40 AM, Adrian Crum wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It would be nice to get the new security code included in the branch - even if it is disabled. That will give release users an introduction to it and give them a chance to work on an upgrade strategy.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Adrian
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anil Patel wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So, are we set for next Ofbiz Branch named 10.04 ?
>>>>>>>> If we decide on _date_, I can have a team of developers scheduled to start testing branch code. This will allow to quickly stabilize ofbiz release for common ecommerce use.
>>>>>>>> How about EOD March 31st 10 GMT?
>>>>>>>> Thanks and Regards
>>>>>>>> Anil Patel
>>>>>>>> HotWax Media Inc
>>>>>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz"
>>>>>>>> On Feb 15, 2010, at 6:40 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I agree but after Jacopo's message on dev ML about new release strategy (on which I mostly agree) I will at least delay it...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> From: "Bruno Busco" <br...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> In order to have this kind of issue scheduling could you please create
>>>>>>>>>> a new OFBIZ version in jira and set the Fix Version of these issue on
>>>>>>>>>> that?
>>>>>>>>>> I do not see any clearer way to answer to Ashish question.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -Bruno
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 2010/2/15 Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I expect to fulfill
>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3442
>>>>>>>>>>> and maybe
>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3445
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> In other word to use layer lookups instead of popup lookups everywhere it's
>>>>>>>>>>> possible in OFBiz.
>>>>>>>>>>> From my 1st serie of tests it seems to work well almost everywhere, WIP...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Ashish Vijaywargiya" <vi...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I think its time to start thinking on the things that should be taken
>>>>>>>>>>>> care in / before release branch 10.04.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Bug fixing should be the major area which should be taken care
>>>>>>>>>>>> extensively in next two months.
>>>>>>>>>>>> What about new features etc. etc.?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Please comment.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ashish
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 6:47 AM, David E Jones <de...@me.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is no set date yet. The last release was in April 2009 (hence the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> version number of 09.04 on it), and the one before that was about 2 years
>>>>>>>>>>>>> before. Chances are it won't be another 2 years before another release, but
>>>>>>>>>>>>> probably at least a year... so perhaps we'll do another release branch in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> around 4 months.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 14, 2009, at 3:37 PM, Juan Pablo wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Community.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm testing the last trunk version and the demo version published in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Internet (http://demo.ofbiz.org). They've got new functionality: help on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> line, new themes, new features in accounting, manufacturing and ordermgr
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> components. The last stable versión is actually 9.04. So, ¿When will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ofbiz
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> try a new stable release version?.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gracias/Thank You.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Juan Pablo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
Re: New OFBiz stable release
Posted by Tim Ruppert <ti...@hotwaxmedia.com>.
Many, many committers continually add bug fixes to releases - check the commit logs. I can't speak for everyone, but I think that many of us are sitting here waiting for a new release so that this can become more of the process that people are pushing - including trying to encourage people to use the releases - instead of just the trunk - which seemed to be something you were asking for earlier.
So, be behind this - it's in your best interests and what you've been clamoring for - instead of just trying to be "right" all of the time ....
Cheers,
Ruppert
On Feb 23, 2010, at 2:08 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
> Hello Anil:
>
> How about a recent thread called "Rethinking our release strategy" dated Feb 15th, 2010 which I shall partially repeat here for your convenience:
>
> > * because of this, no real maintenance plan, test strategy etc..
> has been created around it (9.04) from the community of users and
> interested parties (in fact we were not really able to officially
> release it)
>
> > * a lot of new users start eveluating OFBiz from that instead of
> the trunk
> > * it is rather old, several new features are missing and also
> code improvements (that could fix bugs etc)
> > I thought all the bug fixes were retrofitted to the release? Is this not
> true?
> > * because of this, it tends to be less stable than the trunk
> > How could the release be less stable than the trunk if bug fixes are
> applied to the release and the trunk?
> > The main cons of this situations are the following:
> > 1) not real interest in maintaining a release branch means that
> we will not be able to spend time on it and officially release it:
> the OFBiz community will miss the advantage of using the marketing
> channel represented by a new release
> > 2) new users will get the wrong impression that the project is
> slowing improving if they just get the releases
>
> For a true sense of the thread, please see this quote in context. I'll give you a hint, no one from the project came out and said that bug fixes are applied to Releases. The implication (and thus non-statement) is that the "trunk" is it as far as bug fixes are concerned.
>
> Regards,
> Ruth
>
>
> Anil Patel wrote:
>> Ruth,
>> I don't know which statement are you talking about. Can you please put that statement or non-statement here for ready reference?
>> Thanks and Regards
>> Anil Patel
>> HotWax Media Inc
>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz"
>>
>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 3:46 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Doesn't this contradict previous statements or non-statements about bug fixes in Release 9.04?
>>> Regards,
>>> Ruth
>>>
>>> David E Jones wrote:
>>>
>>>> One quick thing to note, that seems to be confused here: the release branch is a tool for stabilization. It's great to do testing and fixing in the trunk, but the goal for a release branch is not to be tested and bug-free from day one, but rather to be stable so that real testing and bug fixing can be done in the release branch without worrying about new things possibly breaking something, or any other conflicting priorities.
>>>>
>>>> -David
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 1:22 PM, Anil Patel wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Makes sense to me. If we are decided on date, we still have a month to go. Gives plenty of time, may be :)
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks and Regards
>>>>> Anil Patel
>>>>> HotWax Media Inc
>>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz"
>>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 10:40 AM, Adrian Crum wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> It would be nice to get the new security code included in the branch - even if it is disabled. That will give release users an introduction to it and give them a chance to work on an upgrade strategy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Adrian
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anil Patel wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So, are we set for next Ofbiz Branch named 10.04 ?
>>>>>>> If we decide on _date_, I can have a team of developers scheduled to start testing branch code. This will allow to quickly stabilize ofbiz release for common ecommerce use.
>>>>>>> How about EOD March 31st 10 GMT?
>>>>>>> Thanks and Regards
>>>>>>> Anil Patel
>>>>>>> HotWax Media Inc
>>>>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz"
>>>>>>> On Feb 15, 2010, at 6:40 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I agree but after Jacopo's message on dev ML about new release strategy (on which I mostly agree) I will at least delay it...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> From: "Bruno Busco" <br...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In order to have this kind of issue scheduling could you please create
>>>>>>>>> a new OFBIZ version in jira and set the Fix Version of these issue on
>>>>>>>>> that?
>>>>>>>>> I do not see any clearer way to answer to Ashish question.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -Bruno
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2010/2/15 Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I expect to fulfill
>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3442
>>>>>>>>>> and maybe
>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3445
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> In other word to use layer lookups instead of popup lookups everywhere it's
>>>>>>>>>> possible in OFBiz.
>>>>>>>>>> From my 1st serie of tests it seems to work well almost everywhere, WIP...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> From: "Ashish Vijaywargiya" <vi...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I think its time to start thinking on the things that should be taken
>>>>>>>>>>> care in / before release branch 10.04.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Bug fixing should be the major area which should be taken care
>>>>>>>>>>> extensively in next two months.
>>>>>>>>>>> What about new features etc. etc.?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Please comment.
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> Ashish
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 6:47 AM, David E Jones <de...@me.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> There is no set date yet. The last release was in April 2009 (hence the
>>>>>>>>>>>> version number of 09.04 on it), and the one before that was about 2 years
>>>>>>>>>>>> before. Chances are it won't be another 2 years before another release, but
>>>>>>>>>>>> probably at least a year... so perhaps we'll do another release branch in
>>>>>>>>>>>> around 4 months.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 14, 2009, at 3:37 PM, Juan Pablo wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Community.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm testing the last trunk version and the demo version published in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Internet (http://demo.ofbiz.org). They've got new functionality: help on
>>>>>>>>>>>>> line, new themes, new features in accounting, manufacturing and ordermgr
>>>>>>>>>>>>> components. The last stable versión is actually 9.04. So, ¿When will
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ofbiz
>>>>>>>>>>>>> try a new stable release version?.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gracias/Thank You.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Juan Pablo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>>
Re: New OFBiz stable release
Posted by Ruth Hoffman <rh...@aesolves.com>.
Hello Anil:
How about a recent thread called "Rethinking our release strategy" dated
Feb 15th, 2010 which I shall partially repeat here for your convenience:
> * because of this, no real maintenance plan, test strategy etc..
has been created around it (9.04) from the community of users and
interested parties (in fact we were not really able to officially
release it)
> * a lot of new users start eveluating OFBiz from that instead of
the trunk
> * it is rather old, several new features are missing and also
code improvements (that could fix bugs etc)
>
I thought all the bug fixes were retrofitted to the release? Is this not
true?
> * because of this, it tends to be less stable than the trunk
>
How could the release be less stable than the trunk if bug fixes are
applied to the release and the trunk?
> The main cons of this situations are the following:
> 1) not real interest in maintaining a release branch means that
we will not be able to spend time on it and officially release it:
the OFBiz community will miss the advantage of using the marketing
channel represented by a new release
> 2) new users will get the wrong impression that the project is
slowing improving if they just get the releases
For a true sense of the thread, please see this quote in context. I'll
give you a hint, no one from the project came out and said that bug
fixes are applied to Releases. The implication (and thus non-statement)
is that the "trunk" is it as far as bug fixes are concerned.
Regards,
Ruth
Anil Patel wrote:
> Ruth,
> I don't know which statement are you talking about. Can you please put that statement or non-statement here for ready reference?
>
> Thanks and Regards
> Anil Patel
> HotWax Media Inc
> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz"
>
> On Feb 23, 2010, at 3:46 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
>
>
>> Doesn't this contradict previous statements or non-statements about bug fixes in Release 9.04?
>> Regards,
>> Ruth
>>
>> David E Jones wrote:
>>
>>> One quick thing to note, that seems to be confused here: the release branch is a tool for stabilization. It's great to do testing and fixing in the trunk, but the goal for a release branch is not to be tested and bug-free from day one, but rather to be stable so that real testing and bug fixing can be done in the release branch without worrying about new things possibly breaking something, or any other conflicting priorities.
>>>
>>> -David
>>>
>>>
>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 1:22 PM, Anil Patel wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Makes sense to me. If we are decided on date, we still have a month to go. Gives plenty of time, may be :)
>>>>
>>>> Thanks and Regards
>>>> Anil Patel
>>>> HotWax Media Inc
>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz"
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 10:40 AM, Adrian Crum wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> It would be nice to get the new security code included in the branch - even if it is disabled. That will give release users an introduction to it and give them a chance to work on an upgrade strategy.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Adrian
>>>>>
>>>>> Anil Patel wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> So, are we set for next Ofbiz Branch named 10.04 ?
>>>>>> If we decide on _date_, I can have a team of developers scheduled to start testing branch code. This will allow to quickly stabilize ofbiz release for common ecommerce use.
>>>>>> How about EOD March 31st 10 GMT?
>>>>>> Thanks and Regards
>>>>>> Anil Patel
>>>>>> HotWax Media Inc
>>>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz"
>>>>>> On Feb 15, 2010, at 6:40 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I agree but after Jacopo's message on dev ML about new release strategy (on which I mostly agree) I will at least delay it...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: "Bruno Busco" <br...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In order to have this kind of issue scheduling could you please create
>>>>>>>> a new OFBIZ version in jira and set the Fix Version of these issue on
>>>>>>>> that?
>>>>>>>> I do not see any clearer way to answer to Ashish question.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -Bruno
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2010/2/15 Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I expect to fulfill
>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3442
>>>>>>>>> and maybe
>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3445
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In other word to use layer lookups instead of popup lookups everywhere it's
>>>>>>>>> possible in OFBiz.
>>>>>>>>> From my 1st serie of tests it seems to work well almost everywhere, WIP...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> From: "Ashish Vijaywargiya" <vi...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I think its time to start thinking on the things that should be taken
>>>>>>>>>> care in / before release branch 10.04.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Bug fixing should be the major area which should be taken care
>>>>>>>>>> extensively in next two months.
>>>>>>>>>> What about new features etc. etc.?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Please comment.
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Ashish
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 6:47 AM, David E Jones <de...@me.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> There is no set date yet. The last release was in April 2009 (hence the
>>>>>>>>>>> version number of 09.04 on it), and the one before that was about 2 years
>>>>>>>>>>> before. Chances are it won't be another 2 years before another release, but
>>>>>>>>>>> probably at least a year... so perhaps we'll do another release branch in
>>>>>>>>>>> around 4 months.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 14, 2009, at 3:37 PM, Juan Pablo wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Community.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm testing the last trunk version and the demo version published in
>>>>>>>>>>>> Internet (http://demo.ofbiz.org). They've got new functionality: help on
>>>>>>>>>>>> line, new themes, new features in accounting, manufacturing and ordermgr
>>>>>>>>>>>> components. The last stable versión is actually 9.04. So, ¿When will
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ofbiz
>>>>>>>>>>>> try a new stable release version?.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Gracias/Thank You.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> Juan Pablo
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
>
Re: New OFBiz stable release
Posted by Tim Ruppert <ti...@hotwaxmedia.com>.
Thanks BJ - having the real information is always helpful
Cheers,
Ruppert
On Feb 23, 2010, at 2:47 PM, BJ Freeman wrote:
> If one follows the dev and commits, you will see that patches that fixed
> bugs in trunk were, when plausible, back ported to 9.04
> Also bugs fixes were put in 9.04 all you have to do is look at 9.04 history.
> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revision&revision=772899
> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revision&revision=772835
> as a matter of fact here is one for 4.0
> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revision&revision=666828
> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revision&revision=602587
>
> if you keep a history of the commits you can find these.
> or just search the commits archive for 09.04
>
>
> Ruth Hoffman sent the following on 2/23/2010 1:08 PM:
>> Hello Anil:
>>
>> How about a recent thread called "Rethinking our release strategy" dated
>> Feb 15th, 2010 which I shall partially repeat here for your convenience:
>>
>>> * because of this, no real maintenance plan, test strategy etc..
>> has been created around it (9.04) from the community of users and
>> interested parties (in fact we were not really able to officially
>> release it)
>>
>>> * a lot of new users start eveluating OFBiz from that instead of
>> the trunk
>>> * it is rather old, several new features are missing and also
>> code improvements (that could fix bugs etc)
>>> I thought all the bug fixes were retrofitted to the release? Is
>> this not
>> true?
>>> * because of this, it tends to be less stable than the trunk
>>> How could the release be less stable than the trunk if bug
>> fixes are
>> applied to the release and the trunk?
>>> The main cons of this situations are the following:
>>> 1) not real interest in maintaining a release branch means that
>> we will not be able to spend time on it and officially release it:
>> the OFBiz community will miss the advantage of using the marketing
>> channel represented by a new release
>>> 2) new users will get the wrong impression that the project is
>> slowing improving if they just get the releases
>>
>> For a true sense of the thread, please see this quote in context. I'll
>> give you a hint, no one from the project came out and said that bug
>> fixes are applied to Releases. The implication (and thus non-statement)
>> is that the "trunk" is it as far as bug fixes are concerned.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Ruth
>>
>>
>> Anil Patel wrote:
>>> Ruth,
>>> I don't know which statement are you talking about. Can you please put
>>> that statement or non-statement here for ready reference?
>>> Thanks and Regards
>>> Anil Patel
>>> HotWax Media Inc
>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz"
>>>
>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 3:46 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Doesn't this contradict previous statements or non-statements about
>>>> bug fixes in Release 9.04?
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Ruth
>>>>
>>>> David E Jones wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> One quick thing to note, that seems to be confused here: the release
>>>>> branch is a tool for stabilization. It's great to do testing and
>>>>> fixing in the trunk, but the goal for a release branch is not to be
>>>>> tested and bug-free from day one, but rather to be stable so that
>>>>> real testing and bug fixing can be done in the release branch
>>>>> without worrying about new things possibly breaking something, or
>>>>> any other conflicting priorities.
>>>>>
>>>>> -David
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 1:22 PM, Anil Patel wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Makes sense to me. If we are decided on date, we still have a month
>>>>>> to go. Gives plenty of time, may be :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks and Regards
>>>>>> Anil Patel
>>>>>> HotWax Media Inc
>>>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 10:40 AM, Adrian Crum wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It would be nice to get the new security code included in the
>>>>>>> branch - even if it is disabled. That will give release users an
>>>>>>> introduction to it and give them a chance to work on an upgrade
>>>>>>> strategy.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Adrian
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anil Patel wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So, are we set for next Ofbiz Branch named 10.04 ?
>>>>>>>> If we decide on _date_, I can have a team of developers scheduled
>>>>>>>> to start testing branch code. This will allow to quickly
>>>>>>>> stabilize ofbiz release for common ecommerce use.
>>>>>>>> How about EOD March 31st 10 GMT?
>>>>>>>> Thanks and Regards
>>>>>>>> Anil Patel
>>>>>>>> HotWax Media Inc
>>>>>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz"
>>>>>>>> On Feb 15, 2010, at 6:40 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I agree but after Jacopo's message on dev ML about new release
>>>>>>>>> strategy (on which I mostly agree) I will at least delay it...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> From: "Bruno Busco" <br...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> In order to have this kind of issue scheduling could you please
>>>>>>>>>> create
>>>>>>>>>> a new OFBIZ version in jira and set the Fix Version of these
>>>>>>>>>> issue on
>>>>>>>>>> that?
>>>>>>>>>> I do not see any clearer way to answer to Ashish question.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -Bruno
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 2010/2/15 Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I expect to fulfill
>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3442
>>>>>>>>>>> and maybe
>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3445
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> In other word to use layer lookups instead of popup lookups
>>>>>>>>>>> everywhere it's
>>>>>>>>>>> possible in OFBiz.
>>>>>>>>>>> From my 1st serie of tests it seems to work well almost
>>>>>>>>>>> everywhere, WIP...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Ashish Vijaywargiya" <vi...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I think its time to start thinking on the things that should
>>>>>>>>>>>> be taken
>>>>>>>>>>>> care in / before release branch 10.04.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Bug fixing should be the major area which should be taken care
>>>>>>>>>>>> extensively in next two months.
>>>>>>>>>>>> What about new features etc. etc.?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Please comment.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ashish
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 6:47 AM, David E Jones <de...@me.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is no set date yet. The last release was in April 2009
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (hence the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> version number of 09.04 on it), and the one before that was
>>>>>>>>>>>>> about 2 years
>>>>>>>>>>>>> before. Chances are it won't be another 2 years before
>>>>>>>>>>>>> another release, but
>>>>>>>>>>>>> probably at least a year... so perhaps we'll do another
>>>>>>>>>>>>> release branch in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> around 4 months.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 14, 2009, at 3:37 PM, Juan Pablo wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Community.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm testing the last trunk version and the demo version
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> published in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Internet (http://demo.ofbiz.org). They've got new
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> functionality: help on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> line, new themes, new features in accounting, manufacturing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and ordermgr
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> components. The last stable versión is actually 9.04. So,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ¿When will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ofbiz
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> try a new stable release version?.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gracias/Thank You.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Juan Pablo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
Re: New OFBiz stable release
Posted by BJ Freeman <bj...@free-man.net>.
If one follows the dev and commits, you will see that patches that fixed
bugs in trunk were, when plausible, back ported to 9.04
Also bugs fixes were put in 9.04 all you have to do is look at 9.04 history.
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revision&revision=772899
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revision&revision=772835
as a matter of fact here is one for 4.0
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revision&revision=666828
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revision&revision=602587
if you keep a history of the commits you can find these.
or just search the commits archive for 09.04
Ruth Hoffman sent the following on 2/23/2010 1:08 PM:
> Hello Anil:
>
> How about a recent thread called "Rethinking our release strategy" dated
> Feb 15th, 2010 which I shall partially repeat here for your convenience:
>
> > * because of this, no real maintenance plan, test strategy etc..
> has been created around it (9.04) from the community of users and
> interested parties (in fact we were not really able to officially
> release it)
>
> > * a lot of new users start eveluating OFBiz from that instead of
> the trunk
> > * it is rather old, several new features are missing and also
> code improvements (that could fix bugs etc)
> > I thought all the bug fixes were retrofitted to the release? Is
> this not
> true?
> > * because of this, it tends to be less stable than the trunk
> > How could the release be less stable than the trunk if bug
> fixes are
> applied to the release and the trunk?
> > The main cons of this situations are the following:
> > 1) not real interest in maintaining a release branch means that
> we will not be able to spend time on it and officially release it:
> the OFBiz community will miss the advantage of using the marketing
> channel represented by a new release
> > 2) new users will get the wrong impression that the project is
> slowing improving if they just get the releases
>
> For a true sense of the thread, please see this quote in context. I'll
> give you a hint, no one from the project came out and said that bug
> fixes are applied to Releases. The implication (and thus non-statement)
> is that the "trunk" is it as far as bug fixes are concerned.
>
> Regards,
> Ruth
>
>
> Anil Patel wrote:
>> Ruth,
>> I don't know which statement are you talking about. Can you please put
>> that statement or non-statement here for ready reference?
>> Thanks and Regards
>> Anil Patel
>> HotWax Media Inc
>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz"
>>
>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 3:46 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Doesn't this contradict previous statements or non-statements about
>>> bug fixes in Release 9.04?
>>> Regards,
>>> Ruth
>>>
>>> David E Jones wrote:
>>>
>>>> One quick thing to note, that seems to be confused here: the release
>>>> branch is a tool for stabilization. It's great to do testing and
>>>> fixing in the trunk, but the goal for a release branch is not to be
>>>> tested and bug-free from day one, but rather to be stable so that
>>>> real testing and bug fixing can be done in the release branch
>>>> without worrying about new things possibly breaking something, or
>>>> any other conflicting priorities.
>>>>
>>>> -David
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 1:22 PM, Anil Patel wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Makes sense to me. If we are decided on date, we still have a month
>>>>> to go. Gives plenty of time, may be :)
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks and Regards
>>>>> Anil Patel
>>>>> HotWax Media Inc
>>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz"
>>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 10:40 AM, Adrian Crum wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> It would be nice to get the new security code included in the
>>>>>> branch - even if it is disabled. That will give release users an
>>>>>> introduction to it and give them a chance to work on an upgrade
>>>>>> strategy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Adrian
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anil Patel wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So, are we set for next Ofbiz Branch named 10.04 ?
>>>>>>> If we decide on _date_, I can have a team of developers scheduled
>>>>>>> to start testing branch code. This will allow to quickly
>>>>>>> stabilize ofbiz release for common ecommerce use.
>>>>>>> How about EOD March 31st 10 GMT?
>>>>>>> Thanks and Regards
>>>>>>> Anil Patel
>>>>>>> HotWax Media Inc
>>>>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz"
>>>>>>> On Feb 15, 2010, at 6:40 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I agree but after Jacopo's message on dev ML about new release
>>>>>>>> strategy (on which I mostly agree) I will at least delay it...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> From: "Bruno Busco" <br...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In order to have this kind of issue scheduling could you please
>>>>>>>>> create
>>>>>>>>> a new OFBIZ version in jira and set the Fix Version of these
>>>>>>>>> issue on
>>>>>>>>> that?
>>>>>>>>> I do not see any clearer way to answer to Ashish question.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -Bruno
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2010/2/15 Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I expect to fulfill
>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3442
>>>>>>>>>> and maybe
>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3445
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> In other word to use layer lookups instead of popup lookups
>>>>>>>>>> everywhere it's
>>>>>>>>>> possible in OFBiz.
>>>>>>>>>> From my 1st serie of tests it seems to work well almost
>>>>>>>>>> everywhere, WIP...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> From: "Ashish Vijaywargiya" <vi...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I think its time to start thinking on the things that should
>>>>>>>>>>> be taken
>>>>>>>>>>> care in / before release branch 10.04.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Bug fixing should be the major area which should be taken care
>>>>>>>>>>> extensively in next two months.
>>>>>>>>>>> What about new features etc. etc.?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Please comment.
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> Ashish
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 6:47 AM, David E Jones <de...@me.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> There is no set date yet. The last release was in April 2009
>>>>>>>>>>>> (hence the
>>>>>>>>>>>> version number of 09.04 on it), and the one before that was
>>>>>>>>>>>> about 2 years
>>>>>>>>>>>> before. Chances are it won't be another 2 years before
>>>>>>>>>>>> another release, but
>>>>>>>>>>>> probably at least a year... so perhaps we'll do another
>>>>>>>>>>>> release branch in
>>>>>>>>>>>> around 4 months.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 14, 2009, at 3:37 PM, Juan Pablo wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Community.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm testing the last trunk version and the demo version
>>>>>>>>>>>>> published in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Internet (http://demo.ofbiz.org). They've got new
>>>>>>>>>>>>> functionality: help on
>>>>>>>>>>>>> line, new themes, new features in accounting, manufacturing
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and ordermgr
>>>>>>>>>>>>> components. The last stable versión is actually 9.04. So,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ¿When will
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ofbiz
>>>>>>>>>>>>> try a new stable release version?.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gracias/Thank You.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Juan Pablo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
Re: New OFBiz stable release
Posted by Anil Patel <an...@hotwaxmedia.com>.
Ruth,
I don't know which statement are you talking about. Can you please put that statement or non-statement here for ready reference?
Thanks and Regards
Anil Patel
HotWax Media Inc
Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz"
On Feb 23, 2010, at 3:46 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
> Doesn't this contradict previous statements or non-statements about bug fixes in Release 9.04?
> Regards,
> Ruth
>
> David E Jones wrote:
>> One quick thing to note, that seems to be confused here: the release branch is a tool for stabilization. It's great to do testing and fixing in the trunk, but the goal for a release branch is not to be tested and bug-free from day one, but rather to be stable so that real testing and bug fixing can be done in the release branch without worrying about new things possibly breaking something, or any other conflicting priorities.
>>
>> -David
>>
>>
>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 1:22 PM, Anil Patel wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Makes sense to me. If we are decided on date, we still have a month to go. Gives plenty of time, may be :)
>>>
>>> Thanks and Regards
>>> Anil Patel
>>> HotWax Media Inc
>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz"
>>>
>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 10:40 AM, Adrian Crum wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> It would be nice to get the new security code included in the branch - even if it is disabled. That will give release users an introduction to it and give them a chance to work on an upgrade strategy.
>>>>
>>>> -Adrian
>>>>
>>>> Anil Patel wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> So, are we set for next Ofbiz Branch named 10.04 ?
>>>>> If we decide on _date_, I can have a team of developers scheduled to start testing branch code. This will allow to quickly stabilize ofbiz release for common ecommerce use.
>>>>> How about EOD March 31st 10 GMT?
>>>>> Thanks and Regards
>>>>> Anil Patel
>>>>> HotWax Media Inc
>>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz"
>>>>> On Feb 15, 2010, at 6:40 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I agree but after Jacopo's message on dev ML about new release strategy (on which I mostly agree) I will at least delay it...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From: "Bruno Busco" <br...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In order to have this kind of issue scheduling could you please create
>>>>>>> a new OFBIZ version in jira and set the Fix Version of these issue on
>>>>>>> that?
>>>>>>> I do not see any clearer way to answer to Ashish question.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Bruno
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2010/2/15 Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I expect to fulfill
>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3442
>>>>>>>> and maybe
>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3445
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In other word to use layer lookups instead of popup lookups everywhere it's
>>>>>>>> possible in OFBiz.
>>>>>>>> From my 1st serie of tests it seems to work well almost everywhere, WIP...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> From: "Ashish Vijaywargiya" <vi...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I think its time to start thinking on the things that should be taken
>>>>>>>>> care in / before release branch 10.04.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Bug fixing should be the major area which should be taken care
>>>>>>>>> extensively in next two months.
>>>>>>>>> What about new features etc. etc.?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Please comment.
>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Ashish
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 6:47 AM, David E Jones <de...@me.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> There is no set date yet. The last release was in April 2009 (hence the
>>>>>>>>>> version number of 09.04 on it), and the one before that was about 2 years
>>>>>>>>>> before. Chances are it won't be another 2 years before another release, but
>>>>>>>>>> probably at least a year... so perhaps we'll do another release branch in
>>>>>>>>>> around 4 months.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 14, 2009, at 3:37 PM, Juan Pablo wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Community.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm testing the last trunk version and the demo version published in
>>>>>>>>>>> Internet (http://demo.ofbiz.org). They've got new functionality: help on
>>>>>>>>>>> line, new themes, new features in accounting, manufacturing and ordermgr
>>>>>>>>>>> components. The last stable versión is actually 9.04. So, ¿When will
>>>>>>>>>>> Ofbiz
>>>>>>>>>>> try a new stable release version?.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Gracias/Thank You.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> Juan Pablo
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>
>>
>>
Re: New OFBiz stable release
Posted by Adrian Crum <ad...@hlmksw.com>.
Your approach reminds me of conspiracy theorists: When faced with
overwhelming evidence to the contrary, they continue to believe in their
conspiracies.
If thinking that way makes you happy, then so be it.
-Adrian
Ruth Hoffman wrote:
> Hi Adrian:
>
> With all due respect, (and I do have much respect for the contributions
> you and other committer's have made to the project) this statement just
> confirms my "developer's playground" theory. I wish you guys could see
> yourselves the way the rest of the world does.
>
> I think I've said enough.
>
> Good luck with the release and all the rewards that it brings.
>
> Regards,
> Ruth
>
> Adrian Crum wrote:
>> I don't think it contradicts anything. David summarized the release
>> strategy in response to the general theme of this thread - which is to
>> stabilize (or bug fix) the trunk before a release branch is created.
>>
>> The point is, that effort isn't really necessary. We can create a
>> release branch at any time - warts and all, and then do the bug fixing
>> in the release.
>>
>> If there appears to be any contradiction, it might be due to some
>> members of the community misunderstanding the release strategy - which
>> has remained unchanged for years.
>>
>> I hope that helps.
>>
>> -Adrian
>>
>> Ruth Hoffman wrote:
>>> Doesn't this contradict previous statements or non-statements about
>>> bug fixes in Release 9.04?
>>> Regards,
>>> Ruth
>>>
>>> David E Jones wrote:
>>>> One quick thing to note, that seems to be confused here: the release
>>>> branch is a tool for stabilization. It's great to do testing and
>>>> fixing in the trunk, but the goal for a release branch is not to be
>>>> tested and bug-free from day one, but rather to be stable so that
>>>> real testing and bug fixing can be done in the release branch
>>>> without worrying about new things possibly breaking something, or
>>>> any other conflicting priorities.
>>>>
>>>> -David
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 1:22 PM, Anil Patel wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Makes sense to me. If we are decided on date, we still have a month
>>>>> to go. Gives plenty of time, may be :)
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks and Regards
>>>>> Anil Patel
>>>>> HotWax Media Inc
>>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz"
>>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 10:40 AM, Adrian Crum wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> It would be nice to get the new security code included in the
>>>>>> branch - even if it is disabled. That will give release users an
>>>>>> introduction to it and give them a chance to work on an upgrade
>>>>>> strategy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Adrian
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anil Patel wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So, are we set for next Ofbiz Branch named 10.04 ?
>>>>>>> If we decide on _date_, I can have a team of developers scheduled
>>>>>>> to start testing branch code. This will allow to quickly
>>>>>>> stabilize ofbiz release for common ecommerce use.
>>>>>>> How about EOD March 31st 10 GMT?
>>>>>>> Thanks and Regards
>>>>>>> Anil Patel
>>>>>>> HotWax Media Inc
>>>>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz"
>>>>>>> On Feb 15, 2010, at 6:40 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I agree but after Jacopo's message on dev ML about new release
>>>>>>>> strategy (on which I mostly agree) I will at least delay it...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> From: "Bruno Busco" <br...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In order to have this kind of issue scheduling could you please
>>>>>>>>> create
>>>>>>>>> a new OFBIZ version in jira and set the Fix Version of these
>>>>>>>>> issue on
>>>>>>>>> that?
>>>>>>>>> I do not see any clearer way to answer to Ashish question.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -Bruno
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2010/2/15 Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I expect to fulfill
>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3442
>>>>>>>>>> and maybe
>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3445
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> In other word to use layer lookups instead of popup lookups
>>>>>>>>>> everywhere it's
>>>>>>>>>> possible in OFBiz.
>>>>>>>>>> From my 1st serie of tests it seems to work well almost
>>>>>>>>>> everywhere, WIP...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> From: "Ashish Vijaywargiya" <vi...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I think its time to start thinking on the things that should
>>>>>>>>>>> be taken
>>>>>>>>>>> care in / before release branch 10.04.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Bug fixing should be the major area which should be taken care
>>>>>>>>>>> extensively in next two months.
>>>>>>>>>>> What about new features etc. etc.?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Please comment.
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> Ashish
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 6:47 AM, David E Jones <de...@me.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> There is no set date yet. The last release was in April 2009
>>>>>>>>>>>> (hence the
>>>>>>>>>>>> version number of 09.04 on it), and the one before that was
>>>>>>>>>>>> about 2 years
>>>>>>>>>>>> before. Chances are it won't be another 2 years before
>>>>>>>>>>>> another release, but
>>>>>>>>>>>> probably at least a year... so perhaps we'll do another
>>>>>>>>>>>> release branch in
>>>>>>>>>>>> around 4 months.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 14, 2009, at 3:37 PM, Juan Pablo wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Community.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm testing the last trunk version and the demo version
>>>>>>>>>>>>> published in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Internet (http://demo.ofbiz.org). They've got new
>>>>>>>>>>>>> functionality: help on
>>>>>>>>>>>>> line, new themes, new features in accounting, manufacturing
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and ordermgr
>>>>>>>>>>>>> components. The last stable versión is actually 9.04. So,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ¿When will
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ofbiz
>>>>>>>>>>>>> try a new stable release version?.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gracias/Thank You.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Juan Pablo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
Re: New OFBiz stable release
Posted by Ruth Hoffman <rh...@aesolves.com>.
Hi Adrian:
With all due respect, (and I do have much respect for the contributions
you and other committer's have made to the project) this statement just
confirms my "developer's playground" theory. I wish you guys could see
yourselves the way the rest of the world does.
I think I've said enough.
Good luck with the release and all the rewards that it brings.
Regards,
Ruth
Adrian Crum wrote:
> I don't think it contradicts anything. David summarized the release
> strategy in response to the general theme of this thread - which is to
> stabilize (or bug fix) the trunk before a release branch is created.
>
> The point is, that effort isn't really necessary. We can create a
> release branch at any time - warts and all, and then do the bug fixing
> in the release.
>
> If there appears to be any contradiction, it might be due to some
> members of the community misunderstanding the release strategy - which
> has remained unchanged for years.
>
> I hope that helps.
>
> -Adrian
>
> Ruth Hoffman wrote:
>> Doesn't this contradict previous statements or non-statements about
>> bug fixes in Release 9.04?
>> Regards,
>> Ruth
>>
>> David E Jones wrote:
>>> One quick thing to note, that seems to be confused here: the release
>>> branch is a tool for stabilization. It's great to do testing and
>>> fixing in the trunk, but the goal for a release branch is not to be
>>> tested and bug-free from day one, but rather to be stable so that
>>> real testing and bug fixing can be done in the release branch
>>> without worrying about new things possibly breaking something, or
>>> any other conflicting priorities.
>>>
>>> -David
>>>
>>>
>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 1:22 PM, Anil Patel wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Makes sense to me. If we are decided on date, we still have a month
>>>> to go. Gives plenty of time, may be :)
>>>>
>>>> Thanks and Regards
>>>> Anil Patel
>>>> HotWax Media Inc
>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz"
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 10:40 AM, Adrian Crum wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> It would be nice to get the new security code included in the
>>>>> branch - even if it is disabled. That will give release users an
>>>>> introduction to it and give them a chance to work on an upgrade
>>>>> strategy.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Adrian
>>>>>
>>>>> Anil Patel wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> So, are we set for next Ofbiz Branch named 10.04 ?
>>>>>> If we decide on _date_, I can have a team of developers scheduled
>>>>>> to start testing branch code. This will allow to quickly
>>>>>> stabilize ofbiz release for common ecommerce use.
>>>>>> How about EOD March 31st 10 GMT?
>>>>>> Thanks and Regards
>>>>>> Anil Patel
>>>>>> HotWax Media Inc
>>>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz"
>>>>>> On Feb 15, 2010, at 6:40 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I agree but after Jacopo's message on dev ML about new release
>>>>>>> strategy (on which I mostly agree) I will at least delay it...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: "Bruno Busco" <br...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In order to have this kind of issue scheduling could you please
>>>>>>>> create
>>>>>>>> a new OFBIZ version in jira and set the Fix Version of these
>>>>>>>> issue on
>>>>>>>> that?
>>>>>>>> I do not see any clearer way to answer to Ashish question.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -Bruno
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2010/2/15 Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I expect to fulfill
>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3442
>>>>>>>>> and maybe
>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3445
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In other word to use layer lookups instead of popup lookups
>>>>>>>>> everywhere it's
>>>>>>>>> possible in OFBiz.
>>>>>>>>> From my 1st serie of tests it seems to work well almost
>>>>>>>>> everywhere, WIP...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> From: "Ashish Vijaywargiya" <vi...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I think its time to start thinking on the things that should
>>>>>>>>>> be taken
>>>>>>>>>> care in / before release branch 10.04.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Bug fixing should be the major area which should be taken care
>>>>>>>>>> extensively in next two months.
>>>>>>>>>> What about new features etc. etc.?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Please comment.
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Ashish
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 6:47 AM, David E Jones <de...@me.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> There is no set date yet. The last release was in April 2009
>>>>>>>>>>> (hence the
>>>>>>>>>>> version number of 09.04 on it), and the one before that was
>>>>>>>>>>> about 2 years
>>>>>>>>>>> before. Chances are it won't be another 2 years before
>>>>>>>>>>> another release, but
>>>>>>>>>>> probably at least a year... so perhaps we'll do another
>>>>>>>>>>> release branch in
>>>>>>>>>>> around 4 months.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 14, 2009, at 3:37 PM, Juan Pablo wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Community.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm testing the last trunk version and the demo version
>>>>>>>>>>>> published in
>>>>>>>>>>>> Internet (http://demo.ofbiz.org). They've got new
>>>>>>>>>>>> functionality: help on
>>>>>>>>>>>> line, new themes, new features in accounting, manufacturing
>>>>>>>>>>>> and ordermgr
>>>>>>>>>>>> components. The last stable versión is actually 9.04. So,
>>>>>>>>>>>> ¿When will
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ofbiz
>>>>>>>>>>>> try a new stable release version?.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Gracias/Thank You.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> Juan Pablo
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
Re: New OFBiz stable release
Posted by BJ Freeman <bj...@free-man.net>.
I partially agree with your ruth.
before 4.0
was release I stopped the trunk and made my own.
I worked at testing and stablialising.
the problem was there was no way to feed this back to the community
because the trunk had advance to the ponit my fixes would not work.
Now we have branches.
the idea is for those that want something bug free to test it and get
the bugs out.
it is stable only in that fact new code is not added to it. It is bug
free only to the level that it is tested and bugs reported.
the developers are not interested in testing. even in big corporations
like Boeing and Microsoft Testing is a whole different department. I
have been involved with both.
I believe what you wish is for a "finished" product.
That will never be Ofbiz, IMHO.
Your right in that this is a product for a Developer to take and make
something of, not of a end user to take and use.
Ruth Hoffman sent the following on 2/23/2010 1:43 PM:
> Hi Adrian:
>
> With all due respect, (and I do have much respect for the contributions
> you and other committer's have made to the project) this statement just
> confirms my "developer's playground" theory. I wish you guys could see
> yourselves the way the rest of the world does.
>
> I think I've said enough.
>
> Good luck with the release and all the rewards that it brings.
>
> Regards,
> Ruth
>
> Adrian Crum wrote:
>> I don't think it contradicts anything. David summarized the release
>> strategy in response to the general theme of this thread - which is to
>> stabilize (or bug fix) the trunk before a release branch is created.
>>
>> The point is, that effort isn't really necessary. We can create a
>> release branch at any time - warts and all, and then do the bug fixing
>> in the release.
>>
>> If there appears to be any contradiction, it might be due to some
>> members of the community misunderstanding the release strategy - which
>> has remained unchanged for years.
>>
>> I hope that helps.
>>
>> -Adrian
>>
>> Ruth Hoffman wrote:
>>> Doesn't this contradict previous statements or non-statements about
>>> bug fixes in Release 9.04?
>>> Regards,
>>> Ruth
>>>
>>> David E Jones wrote:
>>>> One quick thing to note, that seems to be confused here: the release
>>>> branch is a tool for stabilization. It's great to do testing and
>>>> fixing in the trunk, but the goal for a release branch is not to be
>>>> tested and bug-free from day one, but rather to be stable so that
>>>> real testing and bug fixing can be done in the release branch
>>>> without worrying about new things possibly breaking something, or
>>>> any other conflicting priorities.
>>>>
>>>> -David
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 1:22 PM, Anil Patel wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Makes sense to me. If we are decided on date, we still have a month
>>>>> to go. Gives plenty of time, may be :)
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks and Regards
>>>>> Anil Patel
>>>>> HotWax Media Inc
>>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz"
>>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 10:40 AM, Adrian Crum wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> It would be nice to get the new security code included in the
>>>>>> branch - even if it is disabled. That will give release users an
>>>>>> introduction to it and give them a chance to work on an upgrade
>>>>>> strategy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Adrian
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anil Patel wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So, are we set for next Ofbiz Branch named 10.04 ?
>>>>>>> If we decide on _date_, I can have a team of developers scheduled
>>>>>>> to start testing branch code. This will allow to quickly
>>>>>>> stabilize ofbiz release for common ecommerce use.
>>>>>>> How about EOD March 31st 10 GMT?
>>>>>>> Thanks and Regards
>>>>>>> Anil Patel
>>>>>>> HotWax Media Inc
>>>>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz"
>>>>>>> On Feb 15, 2010, at 6:40 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I agree but after Jacopo's message on dev ML about new release
>>>>>>>> strategy (on which I mostly agree) I will at least delay it...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> From: "Bruno Busco" <br...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In order to have this kind of issue scheduling could you please
>>>>>>>>> create
>>>>>>>>> a new OFBIZ version in jira and set the Fix Version of these
>>>>>>>>> issue on
>>>>>>>>> that?
>>>>>>>>> I do not see any clearer way to answer to Ashish question.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -Bruno
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2010/2/15 Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I expect to fulfill
>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3442
>>>>>>>>>> and maybe
>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3445
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> In other word to use layer lookups instead of popup lookups
>>>>>>>>>> everywhere it's
>>>>>>>>>> possible in OFBiz.
>>>>>>>>>> From my 1st serie of tests it seems to work well almost
>>>>>>>>>> everywhere, WIP...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> From: "Ashish Vijaywargiya" <vi...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I think its time to start thinking on the things that should
>>>>>>>>>>> be taken
>>>>>>>>>>> care in / before release branch 10.04.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Bug fixing should be the major area which should be taken care
>>>>>>>>>>> extensively in next two months.
>>>>>>>>>>> What about new features etc. etc.?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Please comment.
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> Ashish
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 6:47 AM, David E Jones <de...@me.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> There is no set date yet. The last release was in April 2009
>>>>>>>>>>>> (hence the
>>>>>>>>>>>> version number of 09.04 on it), and the one before that was
>>>>>>>>>>>> about 2 years
>>>>>>>>>>>> before. Chances are it won't be another 2 years before
>>>>>>>>>>>> another release, but
>>>>>>>>>>>> probably at least a year... so perhaps we'll do another
>>>>>>>>>>>> release branch in
>>>>>>>>>>>> around 4 months.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 14, 2009, at 3:37 PM, Juan Pablo wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Community.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm testing the last trunk version and the demo version
>>>>>>>>>>>>> published in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Internet (http://demo.ofbiz.org). They've got new
>>>>>>>>>>>>> functionality: help on
>>>>>>>>>>>>> line, new themes, new features in accounting, manufacturing
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and ordermgr
>>>>>>>>>>>>> components. The last stable versión is actually 9.04. So,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ¿When will
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ofbiz
>>>>>>>>>>>>> try a new stable release version?.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gracias/Thank You.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Juan Pablo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
Re: New OFBiz stable release
Posted by Adrian Crum <ad...@hlmksw.com>.
I don't think it contradicts anything. David summarized the release
strategy in response to the general theme of this thread - which is to
stabilize (or bug fix) the trunk before a release branch is created.
The point is, that effort isn't really necessary. We can create a
release branch at any time - warts and all, and then do the bug fixing
in the release.
If there appears to be any contradiction, it might be due to some
members of the community misunderstanding the release strategy - which
has remained unchanged for years.
I hope that helps.
-Adrian
Ruth Hoffman wrote:
> Doesn't this contradict previous statements or non-statements about bug
> fixes in Release 9.04?
> Regards,
> Ruth
>
> David E Jones wrote:
>> One quick thing to note, that seems to be confused here: the release
>> branch is a tool for stabilization. It's great to do testing and
>> fixing in the trunk, but the goal for a release branch is not to be
>> tested and bug-free from day one, but rather to be stable so that real
>> testing and bug fixing can be done in the release branch without
>> worrying about new things possibly breaking something, or any other
>> conflicting priorities.
>>
>> -David
>>
>>
>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 1:22 PM, Anil Patel wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Makes sense to me. If we are decided on date, we still have a month
>>> to go. Gives plenty of time, may be :)
>>>
>>> Thanks and Regards
>>> Anil Patel
>>> HotWax Media Inc
>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz"
>>>
>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 10:40 AM, Adrian Crum wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> It would be nice to get the new security code included in the branch
>>>> - even if it is disabled. That will give release users an
>>>> introduction to it and give them a chance to work on an upgrade
>>>> strategy.
>>>>
>>>> -Adrian
>>>>
>>>> Anil Patel wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> So, are we set for next Ofbiz Branch named 10.04 ?
>>>>> If we decide on _date_, I can have a team of developers scheduled
>>>>> to start testing branch code. This will allow to quickly stabilize
>>>>> ofbiz release for common ecommerce use.
>>>>> How about EOD March 31st 10 GMT?
>>>>> Thanks and Regards
>>>>> Anil Patel
>>>>> HotWax Media Inc
>>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz"
>>>>> On Feb 15, 2010, at 6:40 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I agree but after Jacopo's message on dev ML about new release
>>>>>> strategy (on which I mostly agree) I will at least delay it...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From: "Bruno Busco" <br...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In order to have this kind of issue scheduling could you please
>>>>>>> create
>>>>>>> a new OFBIZ version in jira and set the Fix Version of these
>>>>>>> issue on
>>>>>>> that?
>>>>>>> I do not see any clearer way to answer to Ashish question.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Bruno
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2010/2/15 Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I expect to fulfill
>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3442
>>>>>>>> and maybe
>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3445
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In other word to use layer lookups instead of popup lookups
>>>>>>>> everywhere it's
>>>>>>>> possible in OFBiz.
>>>>>>>> From my 1st serie of tests it seems to work well almost
>>>>>>>> everywhere, WIP...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> From: "Ashish Vijaywargiya" <vi...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I think its time to start thinking on the things that should be
>>>>>>>>> taken
>>>>>>>>> care in / before release branch 10.04.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Bug fixing should be the major area which should be taken care
>>>>>>>>> extensively in next two months.
>>>>>>>>> What about new features etc. etc.?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Please comment.
>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Ashish
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 6:47 AM, David E Jones <de...@me.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> There is no set date yet. The last release was in April 2009
>>>>>>>>>> (hence the
>>>>>>>>>> version number of 09.04 on it), and the one before that was
>>>>>>>>>> about 2 years
>>>>>>>>>> before. Chances are it won't be another 2 years before another
>>>>>>>>>> release, but
>>>>>>>>>> probably at least a year... so perhaps we'll do another
>>>>>>>>>> release branch in
>>>>>>>>>> around 4 months.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 14, 2009, at 3:37 PM, Juan Pablo wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Community.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm testing the last trunk version and the demo version
>>>>>>>>>>> published in
>>>>>>>>>>> Internet (http://demo.ofbiz.org). They've got new
>>>>>>>>>>> functionality: help on
>>>>>>>>>>> line, new themes, new features in accounting, manufacturing
>>>>>>>>>>> and ordermgr
>>>>>>>>>>> components. The last stable versión is actually 9.04. So,
>>>>>>>>>>> ¿When will
>>>>>>>>>>> Ofbiz
>>>>>>>>>>> try a new stable release version?.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Gracias/Thank You.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> Juan Pablo
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
Re: New OFBiz stable release
Posted by Colin Rooney <co...@openbiz.ie>.
As someone who has a great interest in OfBiz but has unfortunately not
much involvement might I suggest that there maybe be a slight
misunderstanding here. My understanding was that OfBiz was following a
fairly typical release management strategy.
At some point a Release Branch is created from Trunk (when it's deemed
enough new functionality exists).
This Release Branch is just that a branch... it changes as patches are
applied throughout its life.
But a Release, such as 9.04 for example, is an instance in time of the
Release Branch. A tagged release as they say.
While the Release Branch is not "static", no new functionality is added
just bug fixes. Now today, it will be an improvement over the tagged
9.04, but unlike trunk it gets more an more "stable" as time goes by as
only patches are applied. I suspect some people are equating static with
stable?
Trunk you would expect to be equally as (un)stable from one moment to
the next... bugs are fixed but equally new functionality and so bugs are
created.
I would think to implement with least problems;
* if you only know how to implement binary (unlikely I think with
something like ofbiz) then implement the binary 9.04,
* if you can compile then implement the latest version of the Release
branch.
* if you are a guru, who can handle the additional "risk" and want the
latest and greatest implement trunk.
With Kind Regards,
Colin Rooney
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Ruth Hoffman wrote:
> Doesn't this contradict previous statements or non-statements about bug
> fixes in Release 9.04?
> Regards,
> Ruth
>
> David E Jones wrote:
>> One quick thing to note, that seems to be confused here: the release
>> branch is a tool for stabilization. It's great to do testing and
>> fixing in the trunk, but the goal for a release branch is not to be
>> tested and bug-free from day one, but rather to be stable so that real
>> testing and bug fixing can be done in the release branch without
>> worrying about new things possibly breaking something, or any other
>> conflicting priorities.
>>
>> -David
>>
>>
>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 1:22 PM, Anil Patel wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Makes sense to me. If we are decided on date, we still have a month
>>> to go. Gives plenty of time, may be :)
>>>
>>> Thanks and Regards
>>> Anil Patel
>>> HotWax Media Inc
>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz"
>>>
>>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 10:40 AM, Adrian Crum wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> It would be nice to get the new security code included in the branch
>>>> - even if it is disabled. That will give release users an
>>>> introduction to it and give them a chance to work on an upgrade
>>>> strategy.
>>>>
>>>> -Adrian
>>>>
>>>> Anil Patel wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> So, are we set for next Ofbiz Branch named 10.04 ?
>>>>> If we decide on _date_, I can have a team of developers scheduled
>>>>> to start testing branch code. This will allow to quickly stabilize
>>>>> ofbiz release for common ecommerce use.
>>>>> How about EOD March 31st 10 GMT?
>>>>> Thanks and Regards
>>>>> Anil Patel
>>>>> HotWax Media Inc
>>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz"
>>>>> On Feb 15, 2010, at 6:40 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I agree but after Jacopo's message on dev ML about new release
>>>>>> strategy (on which I mostly agree) I will at least delay it...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From: "Bruno Busco" <br...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In order to have this kind of issue scheduling could you please
>>>>>>> create
>>>>>>> a new OFBIZ version in jira and set the Fix Version of these
>>>>>>> issue on
>>>>>>> that?
>>>>>>> I do not see any clearer way to answer to Ashish question.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Bruno
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2010/2/15 Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I expect to fulfill
>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3442
>>>>>>>> and maybe
>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3445
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In other word to use layer lookups instead of popup lookups
>>>>>>>> everywhere it's
>>>>>>>> possible in OFBiz.
>>>>>>>> From my 1st serie of tests it seems to work well almost
>>>>>>>> everywhere, WIP...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> From: "Ashish Vijaywargiya" <vi...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I think its time to start thinking on the things that should be
>>>>>>>>> taken
>>>>>>>>> care in / before release branch 10.04.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Bug fixing should be the major area which should be taken care
>>>>>>>>> extensively in next two months.
>>>>>>>>> What about new features etc. etc.?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Please comment.
>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Ashish
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 6:47 AM, David E Jones <de...@me.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> There is no set date yet. The last release was in April 2009
>>>>>>>>>> (hence the
>>>>>>>>>> version number of 09.04 on it), and the one before that was
>>>>>>>>>> about 2 years
>>>>>>>>>> before. Chances are it won't be another 2 years before another
>>>>>>>>>> release, but
>>>>>>>>>> probably at least a year... so perhaps we'll do another
>>>>>>>>>> release branch in
>>>>>>>>>> around 4 months.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 14, 2009, at 3:37 PM, Juan Pablo wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Community.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm testing the last trunk version and the demo version
>>>>>>>>>>> published in
>>>>>>>>>>> Internet (http://demo.ofbiz.org). They've got new
>>>>>>>>>>> functionality: help on
>>>>>>>>>>> line, new themes, new features in accounting, manufacturing
>>>>>>>>>>> and ordermgr
>>>>>>>>>>> components. The last stable versión is actually 9.04. So,
>>>>>>>>>>> ¿When will
>>>>>>>>>>> Ofbiz
>>>>>>>>>>> try a new stable release version?.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Gracias/Thank You.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> Juan Pablo
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
Re: New OFBiz stable release
Posted by Ruth Hoffman <rh...@aesolves.com>.
Doesn't this contradict previous statements or non-statements about bug
fixes in Release 9.04?
Regards,
Ruth
David E Jones wrote:
> One quick thing to note, that seems to be confused here: the release branch is a tool for stabilization. It's great to do testing and fixing in the trunk, but the goal for a release branch is not to be tested and bug-free from day one, but rather to be stable so that real testing and bug fixing can be done in the release branch without worrying about new things possibly breaking something, or any other conflicting priorities.
>
> -David
>
>
> On Feb 23, 2010, at 1:22 PM, Anil Patel wrote:
>
>
>> Makes sense to me. If we are decided on date, we still have a month to go. Gives plenty of time, may be :)
>>
>> Thanks and Regards
>> Anil Patel
>> HotWax Media Inc
>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz"
>>
>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 10:40 AM, Adrian Crum wrote:
>>
>>
>>> It would be nice to get the new security code included in the branch - even if it is disabled. That will give release users an introduction to it and give them a chance to work on an upgrade strategy.
>>>
>>> -Adrian
>>>
>>> Anil Patel wrote:
>>>
>>>> So, are we set for next Ofbiz Branch named 10.04 ?
>>>> If we decide on _date_, I can have a team of developers scheduled to start testing branch code. This will allow to quickly stabilize ofbiz release for common ecommerce use.
>>>> How about EOD March 31st 10 GMT?
>>>> Thanks and Regards
>>>> Anil Patel
>>>> HotWax Media Inc
>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz"
>>>> On Feb 15, 2010, at 6:40 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I agree but after Jacopo's message on dev ML about new release strategy (on which I mostly agree) I will at least delay it...
>>>>>
>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>
>>>>> From: "Bruno Busco" <br...@gmail.com>
>>>>>
>>>>>> In order to have this kind of issue scheduling could you please create
>>>>>> a new OFBIZ version in jira and set the Fix Version of these issue on
>>>>>> that?
>>>>>> I do not see any clearer way to answer to Ashish question.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Bruno
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2010/2/15 Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I expect to fulfill
>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3442
>>>>>>> and maybe
>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3445
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In other word to use layer lookups instead of popup lookups everywhere it's
>>>>>>> possible in OFBiz.
>>>>>>> From my 1st serie of tests it seems to work well almost everywhere, WIP...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: "Ashish Vijaywargiya" <vi...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think its time to start thinking on the things that should be taken
>>>>>>>> care in / before release branch 10.04.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Bug fixing should be the major area which should be taken care
>>>>>>>> extensively in next two months.
>>>>>>>> What about new features etc. etc.?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Please comment.
>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Ashish
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 6:47 AM, David E Jones <de...@me.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> There is no set date yet. The last release was in April 2009 (hence the
>>>>>>>>> version number of 09.04 on it), and the one before that was about 2 years
>>>>>>>>> before. Chances are it won't be another 2 years before another release, but
>>>>>>>>> probably at least a year... so perhaps we'll do another release branch in
>>>>>>>>> around 4 months.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Dec 14, 2009, at 3:37 PM, Juan Pablo wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hello Community.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm testing the last trunk version and the demo version published in
>>>>>>>>>> Internet (http://demo.ofbiz.org). They've got new functionality: help on
>>>>>>>>>> line, new themes, new features in accounting, manufacturing and ordermgr
>>>>>>>>>> components. The last stable versión is actually 9.04. So, ¿When will
>>>>>>>>>> Ofbiz
>>>>>>>>>> try a new stable release version?.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Gracias/Thank You.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Juan Pablo
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>
>
>
Re: New OFBiz stable release
Posted by David E Jones <de...@me.com>.
One quick thing to note, that seems to be confused here: the release branch is a tool for stabilization. It's great to do testing and fixing in the trunk, but the goal for a release branch is not to be tested and bug-free from day one, but rather to be stable so that real testing and bug fixing can be done in the release branch without worrying about new things possibly breaking something, or any other conflicting priorities.
-David
On Feb 23, 2010, at 1:22 PM, Anil Patel wrote:
> Makes sense to me. If we are decided on date, we still have a month to go. Gives plenty of time, may be :)
>
> Thanks and Regards
> Anil Patel
> HotWax Media Inc
> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz"
>
> On Feb 23, 2010, at 10:40 AM, Adrian Crum wrote:
>
>> It would be nice to get the new security code included in the branch - even if it is disabled. That will give release users an introduction to it and give them a chance to work on an upgrade strategy.
>>
>> -Adrian
>>
>> Anil Patel wrote:
>>> So, are we set for next Ofbiz Branch named 10.04 ?
>>> If we decide on _date_, I can have a team of developers scheduled to start testing branch code. This will allow to quickly stabilize ofbiz release for common ecommerce use.
>>> How about EOD March 31st 10 GMT?
>>> Thanks and Regards
>>> Anil Patel
>>> HotWax Media Inc
>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz"
>>> On Feb 15, 2010, at 6:40 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>>> I agree but after Jacopo's message on dev ML about new release strategy (on which I mostly agree) I will at least delay it...
>>>>
>>>> Jacques
>>>>
>>>> From: "Bruno Busco" <br...@gmail.com>
>>>>> In order to have this kind of issue scheduling could you please create
>>>>> a new OFBIZ version in jira and set the Fix Version of these issue on
>>>>> that?
>>>>> I do not see any clearer way to answer to Ashish question.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Bruno
>>>>>
>>>>> 2010/2/15 Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>:
>>>>>> I expect to fulfill
>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3442
>>>>>> and maybe
>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3445
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In other word to use layer lookups instead of popup lookups everywhere it's
>>>>>> possible in OFBiz.
>>>>>> From my 1st serie of tests it seems to work well almost everywhere, WIP...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From: "Ashish Vijaywargiya" <vi...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> I think its time to start thinking on the things that should be taken
>>>>>>> care in / before release branch 10.04.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bug fixing should be the major area which should be taken care
>>>>>>> extensively in next two months.
>>>>>>> What about new features etc. etc.?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Please comment.
>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Ashish
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 6:47 AM, David E Jones <de...@me.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> There is no set date yet. The last release was in April 2009 (hence the
>>>>>>>> version number of 09.04 on it), and the one before that was about 2 years
>>>>>>>> before. Chances are it won't be another 2 years before another release, but
>>>>>>>> probably at least a year... so perhaps we'll do another release branch in
>>>>>>>> around 4 months.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Dec 14, 2009, at 3:37 PM, Juan Pablo wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hello Community.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm testing the last trunk version and the demo version published in
>>>>>>>>> Internet (http://demo.ofbiz.org). They've got new functionality: help on
>>>>>>>>> line, new themes, new features in accounting, manufacturing and ordermgr
>>>>>>>>> components. The last stable versión is actually 9.04. So, ¿When will
>>>>>>>>> Ofbiz
>>>>>>>>> try a new stable release version?.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Gracias/Thank You.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Juan Pablo
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>
Re: New OFBiz stable release
Posted by Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>.
Yes, I'd like to commit at least all about the layered lookups
Jacques
From: "Bruno Busco" <br...@gmail.com>
> JIRA says we have this in progress:
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=true&pid=12310500&status=3
>
> I guess there is more.
> I have created the "Release Candidate Branch 10.04" version in JIRA.
>
> We could schedule issues/tasks we want to include in the relase to this JIRA
> version so that we all have a clear idea (and may be we could help).
>
> -Bruno
>
> 2010/3/14 Anil Patel <an...@hotwaxmedia.com>
>
>> Hi,
>> We are approaching 10.04 date range.
>>
>> How is everybody feeling?
>> Are we up for new release branch?
>> Are we interested in completing some code changes before creating release
>> branch? I mean if somebody has definite plans then it will not hurt to wait
>> a bit.
>>
>> I will love to see release branch created towards end of March or beginning
>> of April.
>>
>> Thanks and Regards
>> Anil Patel
>> HotWax Media Inc
>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz"
>>
>> On Feb 24, 2010, at 11:36 AM, Bruno Busco wrote:
>>
>> > I think that we are all close to the same idea.
>> >
>> > Only a little bit is missing:
>> > what we call now "Release branch" should be renamed to "Release
>> > Candidate branch".
>> > This would mean that what is contained in that branch is somewhat that
>> > is going through the release process (testing, bug fixing,
>> > documenting, etc.) and so it is candidate to become a Release.
>> >
>> > When we are happy with the tests done on the RC branch we will tag the
>> > branch and create the real Release.
>> > The bug fixing on the RC branch can continue and when we rae happy
>> > again we can tag it again.
>> >
>> > What is the issue on doing this?
>> > Isn't it the standard way to handle releases?
>> >
>> > About releases, branches and tags names:
>> > I propose to use a name as "RC_10.4" for the next release candidate
>> branch.
>> > After a while when no major issues will reported on this branch the
>> > release can be done that is the "OFBIZ_10.4" tag can be done on the RC
>> > branch.
>> > After some bug fixes on the RC_10.4 branch we will tag it again as
>> > "OFBIZ_10.4.1", "OFBIZ_10.4.2", etc.
>> > The third number will mean that the release is actually a "mantained",
>> > "bug fixed", release of the 10.4.
>> >
>> > Does this make sense?
>> >
>> > -Bruno
>> >
>> >
>> > 2010/2/24 Matt Warnock <mw...@ridgecrestherbals.com>:
>> >> On Wed, 2010-02-24 at 08:22 +0100, Jacopo Cappellato wrote:
>> >>> Are you planning to fix them or to donate some resources (developers
>> and/or money) in order to fix them? Or are you asking other to do this?
>> >>> BTW, do you really think that commercial or open source releases are
>> done when companies think there are no bugs? Really?
>> >>
>> >> Well in my experience it is unusual for most software, and it isn't
>> >> often in Debian (once about 4 years between releases), but yes, that is
>> >> EXACTLY when a new Debian Stable is released. :)
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Matt Warnock <mw...@ridgecrestherbals.com>
>> >> RidgeCrest Herbals, Inc.
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
>
Re: New OFBiz stable release
Posted by Bruno Busco <br...@gmail.com>.
JIRA says we have this in progress:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=true&pid=12310500&status=3
I guess there is more.
I have created the "Release Candidate Branch 10.04" version in JIRA.
We could schedule issues/tasks we want to include in the relase to this JIRA
version so that we all have a clear idea (and may be we could help).
-Bruno
2010/3/14 Anil Patel <an...@hotwaxmedia.com>
> Hi,
> We are approaching 10.04 date range.
>
> How is everybody feeling?
> Are we up for new release branch?
> Are we interested in completing some code changes before creating release
> branch? I mean if somebody has definite plans then it will not hurt to wait
> a bit.
>
> I will love to see release branch created towards end of March or beginning
> of April.
>
> Thanks and Regards
> Anil Patel
> HotWax Media Inc
> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz"
>
> On Feb 24, 2010, at 11:36 AM, Bruno Busco wrote:
>
> > I think that we are all close to the same idea.
> >
> > Only a little bit is missing:
> > what we call now "Release branch" should be renamed to "Release
> > Candidate branch".
> > This would mean that what is contained in that branch is somewhat that
> > is going through the release process (testing, bug fixing,
> > documenting, etc.) and so it is candidate to become a Release.
> >
> > When we are happy with the tests done on the RC branch we will tag the
> > branch and create the real Release.
> > The bug fixing on the RC branch can continue and when we rae happy
> > again we can tag it again.
> >
> > What is the issue on doing this?
> > Isn't it the standard way to handle releases?
> >
> > About releases, branches and tags names:
> > I propose to use a name as "RC_10.4" for the next release candidate
> branch.
> > After a while when no major issues will reported on this branch the
> > release can be done that is the "OFBIZ_10.4" tag can be done on the RC
> > branch.
> > After some bug fixes on the RC_10.4 branch we will tag it again as
> > "OFBIZ_10.4.1", "OFBIZ_10.4.2", etc.
> > The third number will mean that the release is actually a "mantained",
> > "bug fixed", release of the 10.4.
> >
> > Does this make sense?
> >
> > -Bruno
> >
> >
> > 2010/2/24 Matt Warnock <mw...@ridgecrestherbals.com>:
> >> On Wed, 2010-02-24 at 08:22 +0100, Jacopo Cappellato wrote:
> >>> Are you planning to fix them or to donate some resources (developers
> and/or money) in order to fix them? Or are you asking other to do this?
> >>> BTW, do you really think that commercial or open source releases are
> done when companies think there are no bugs? Really?
> >>
> >> Well in my experience it is unusual for most software, and it isn't
> >> often in Debian (once about 4 years between releases), but yes, that is
> >> EXACTLY when a new Debian Stable is released. :)
> >>
> >> --
> >> Matt Warnock <mw...@ridgecrestherbals.com>
> >> RidgeCrest Herbals, Inc.
> >>
> >>
>
>
Re: New OFBiz stable release
Posted by Anil Patel <an...@hotwaxmedia.com>.
Hi,
We are approaching 10.04 date range.
How is everybody feeling?
Are we up for new release branch?
Are we interested in completing some code changes before creating release branch? I mean if somebody has definite plans then it will not hurt to wait a bit.
I will love to see release branch created towards end of March or beginning of April.
Thanks and Regards
Anil Patel
HotWax Media Inc
Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz"
On Feb 24, 2010, at 11:36 AM, Bruno Busco wrote:
> I think that we are all close to the same idea.
>
> Only a little bit is missing:
> what we call now "Release branch" should be renamed to "Release
> Candidate branch".
> This would mean that what is contained in that branch is somewhat that
> is going through the release process (testing, bug fixing,
> documenting, etc.) and so it is candidate to become a Release.
>
> When we are happy with the tests done on the RC branch we will tag the
> branch and create the real Release.
> The bug fixing on the RC branch can continue and when we rae happy
> again we can tag it again.
>
> What is the issue on doing this?
> Isn't it the standard way to handle releases?
>
> About releases, branches and tags names:
> I propose to use a name as "RC_10.4" for the next release candidate branch.
> After a while when no major issues will reported on this branch the
> release can be done that is the "OFBIZ_10.4" tag can be done on the RC
> branch.
> After some bug fixes on the RC_10.4 branch we will tag it again as
> "OFBIZ_10.4.1", "OFBIZ_10.4.2", etc.
> The third number will mean that the release is actually a "mantained",
> "bug fixed", release of the 10.4.
>
> Does this make sense?
>
> -Bruno
>
>
> 2010/2/24 Matt Warnock <mw...@ridgecrestherbals.com>:
>> On Wed, 2010-02-24 at 08:22 +0100, Jacopo Cappellato wrote:
>>> Are you planning to fix them or to donate some resources (developers and/or money) in order to fix them? Or are you asking other to do this?
>>> BTW, do you really think that commercial or open source releases are done when companies think there are no bugs? Really?
>>
>> Well in my experience it is unusual for most software, and it isn't
>> often in Debian (once about 4 years between releases), but yes, that is
>> EXACTLY when a new Debian Stable is released. :)
>>
>> --
>> Matt Warnock <mw...@ridgecrestherbals.com>
>> RidgeCrest Herbals, Inc.
>>
>>
Re: New OFBiz stable release
Posted by Suresh Yellamaraju <sy...@gmail.com>.
"After a while when no major issues will reported on this branch the release
can be done that is the "OFBIZ_10.4" tag can be done on the RC branch. After
some bug fixes on the RC_10.4 branch we will tag it again as "OFBIZ_10.4.1",
"OFBIZ_10.4.2", etc."
I think almost all of this makes sense.
I am new and not a programmer on this project. I also understand SVN makes
branches and tags implementation-wise similar. Having said that, would it be
convenient for people to locate the code, if "OFBIZ_10.4" were a release
than a tag? So, one can create as many tags as desired, but the significant
milestones are branched, so there are a smaller number of them like
"OFBIZ_10.4", "OFBIZ_11.4", ... and so they are easier to locate and
checkout. On creation of this branch, the subsequent like "OFBIZ_10.4.1",
"OFBIZ_10.4.2", etc.can be minor tagged releases out of this "OFBIZ_10.4"
release branch.
Also this might be semantics considering SVN, but as a programmer I might be
looking for a release in the releases section than as a tag in a release
candidate branch.
Regards
Suresh
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 11:36 AM, Bruno Busco <br...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I think that we are all close to the same idea.
>
> Only a little bit is missing:
> what we call now "Release branch" should be renamed to "Release
> Candidate branch".
> This would mean that what is contained in that branch is somewhat that
> is going through the release process (testing, bug fixing,
> documenting, etc.) and so it is candidate to become a Release.
>
> When we are happy with the tests done on the RC branch we will tag the
> branch and create the real Release.
> The bug fixing on the RC branch can continue and when we rae happy
> again we can tag it again.
>
> What is the issue on doing this?
> Isn't it the standard way to handle releases?
>
> About releases, branches and tags names:
> I propose to use a name as "RC_10.4" for the next release candidate branch.
> After a while when no major issues will reported on this branch the
> release can be done that is the "OFBIZ_10.4" tag can be done on the RC
> branch.
> After some bug fixes on the RC_10.4 branch we will tag it again as
> "OFBIZ_10.4.1", "OFBIZ_10.4.2", etc.
> The third number will mean that the release is actually a "mantained",
> "bug fixed", release of the 10.4.
>
> Does this make sense?
>
> -Bruno
>
>
> 2010/2/24 Matt Warnock <mw...@ridgecrestherbals.com>:
> > On Wed, 2010-02-24 at 08:22 +0100, Jacopo Cappellato wrote:
> >> Are you planning to fix them or to donate some resources (developers
> and/or money) in order to fix them? Or are you asking other to do this?
> >> BTW, do you really think that commercial or open source releases are
> done when companies think there are no bugs? Really?
> >
> > Well in my experience it is unusual for most software, and it isn't
> > often in Debian (once about 4 years between releases), but yes, that is
> > EXACTLY when a new Debian Stable is released. :)
> >
> > --
> > Matt Warnock <mw...@ridgecrestherbals.com>
> > RidgeCrest Herbals, Inc.
> >
> >
>
Re: New OFBiz stable release
Posted by Bruno Busco <br...@gmail.com>.
I think that we are all close to the same idea.
Only a little bit is missing:
what we call now "Release branch" should be renamed to "Release
Candidate branch".
This would mean that what is contained in that branch is somewhat that
is going through the release process (testing, bug fixing,
documenting, etc.) and so it is candidate to become a Release.
When we are happy with the tests done on the RC branch we will tag the
branch and create the real Release.
The bug fixing on the RC branch can continue and when we rae happy
again we can tag it again.
What is the issue on doing this?
Isn't it the standard way to handle releases?
About releases, branches and tags names:
I propose to use a name as "RC_10.4" for the next release candidate branch.
After a while when no major issues will reported on this branch the
release can be done that is the "OFBIZ_10.4" tag can be done on the RC
branch.
After some bug fixes on the RC_10.4 branch we will tag it again as
"OFBIZ_10.4.1", "OFBIZ_10.4.2", etc.
The third number will mean that the release is actually a "mantained",
"bug fixed", release of the 10.4.
Does this make sense?
-Bruno
2010/2/24 Matt Warnock <mw...@ridgecrestherbals.com>:
> On Wed, 2010-02-24 at 08:22 +0100, Jacopo Cappellato wrote:
>> Are you planning to fix them or to donate some resources (developers and/or money) in order to fix them? Or are you asking other to do this?
>> BTW, do you really think that commercial or open source releases are done when companies think there are no bugs? Really?
>
> Well in my experience it is unusual for most software, and it isn't
> often in Debian (once about 4 years between releases), but yes, that is
> EXACTLY when a new Debian Stable is released. :)
>
> --
> Matt Warnock <mw...@ridgecrestherbals.com>
> RidgeCrest Herbals, Inc.
>
>
Re: New OFBiz stable release
Posted by Matt Warnock <mw...@ridgecrestherbals.com>.
On Wed, 2010-02-24 at 08:22 +0100, Jacopo Cappellato wrote:
> Are you planning to fix them or to donate some resources (developers and/or money) in order to fix them? Or are you asking other to do this?
> BTW, do you really think that commercial or open source releases are done when companies think there are no bugs? Really?
Well in my experience it is unusual for most software, and it isn't
often in Debian (once about 4 years between releases), but yes, that is
EXACTLY when a new Debian Stable is released. :)
--
Matt Warnock <mw...@ridgecrestherbals.com>
RidgeCrest Herbals, Inc.
Re: New OFBiz stable release
Posted by Jacopo Cappellato <ja...@hotwaxmedia.com>.
On Feb 23, 2010, at 9:35 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
> Hi Anil:
>
> I'm not sure how to read the Jira issue report, so maybe you can help me understand this. If I look at the Jira issues page
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ, it says that there are 585 open issues of which 283 are considered "critical". Is this true?
Why are you asking? Aren't you a member of this community? Please, test them and verify the issues, add comments to them etc...
> I mean is it true that there are over 500 open issues related to a version of OFBiz that you propose to release as a new stable release?
Are you planning to fix them or to donate some resources (developers and/or money) in order to fix them? Or are you asking other to do this?
BTW, do you really think that commercial or open source releases are done when companies think there are no bugs? Really?
Kind regards,
Jacopo
>
> Regards,
> Ruth
>
> Anil Patel wrote:
>> Makes sense to me. If we are decided on date, we still have a month to go. Gives plenty of time, may be :)
>>
>> Thanks and Regards
>> Anil Patel
>> HotWax Media Inc
>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz"
>>
>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 10:40 AM, Adrian Crum wrote:
>>
>>
>>> It would be nice to get the new security code included in the branch - even if it is disabled. That will give release users an introduction to it and give them a chance to work on an upgrade strategy.
>>>
>>> -Adrian
>>>
>>> Anil Patel wrote:
>>>
>>>> So, are we set for next Ofbiz Branch named 10.04 ?
>>>> If we decide on _date_, I can have a team of developers scheduled to start testing branch code. This will allow to quickly stabilize ofbiz release for common ecommerce use.
>>>> How about EOD March 31st 10 GMT?
>>>> Thanks and Regards
>>>> Anil Patel
>>>> HotWax Media Inc
>>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz"
>>>> On Feb 15, 2010, at 6:40 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I agree but after Jacopo's message on dev ML about new release strategy (on which I mostly agree) I will at least delay it...
>>>>>
>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>
>>>>> From: "Bruno Busco" <br...@gmail.com>
>>>>>
>>>>>> In order to have this kind of issue scheduling could you please create
>>>>>> a new OFBIZ version in jira and set the Fix Version of these issue on
>>>>>> that?
>>>>>> I do not see any clearer way to answer to Ashish question.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Bruno
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2010/2/15 Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I expect to fulfill
>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3442
>>>>>>> and maybe
>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3445
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In other word to use layer lookups instead of popup lookups everywhere it's
>>>>>>> possible in OFBiz.
>>>>>>> From my 1st serie of tests it seems to work well almost everywhere, WIP...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: "Ashish Vijaywargiya" <vi...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think its time to start thinking on the things that should be taken
>>>>>>>> care in / before release branch 10.04.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Bug fixing should be the major area which should be taken care
>>>>>>>> extensively in next two months.
>>>>>>>> What about new features etc. etc.?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Please comment.
>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Ashish
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 6:47 AM, David E Jones <de...@me.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> There is no set date yet. The last release was in April 2009 (hence the
>>>>>>>>> version number of 09.04 on it), and the one before that was about 2 years
>>>>>>>>> before. Chances are it won't be another 2 years before another release, but
>>>>>>>>> probably at least a year... so perhaps we'll do another release branch in
>>>>>>>>> around 4 months.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Dec 14, 2009, at 3:37 PM, Juan Pablo wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hello Community.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm testing the last trunk version and the demo version published in
>>>>>>>>>> Internet (http://demo.ofbiz.org). They've got new functionality: help on
>>>>>>>>>> line, new themes, new features in accounting, manufacturing and ordermgr
>>>>>>>>>> components. The last stable versión is actually 9.04. So, ¿When will
>>>>>>>>>> Ofbiz
>>>>>>>>>> try a new stable release version?.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Gracias/Thank You.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Juan Pablo
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>
>>
>>
Re: New OFBiz stable release
Posted by Ruth Hoffman <rh...@aesolves.com>.
Hi Anil:
I'm not sure how to read the Jira issue report, so maybe you can help me
understand this. If I look at the Jira issues page
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ, it says that there are 585
open issues of which 283 are considered "critical". Is this true? I mean
is it true that there are over 500 open issues related to a version of
OFBiz that you propose to release as a new stable release?
Regards,
Ruth
Anil Patel wrote:
> Makes sense to me. If we are decided on date, we still have a month to go. Gives plenty of time, may be :)
>
> Thanks and Regards
> Anil Patel
> HotWax Media Inc
> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz"
>
> On Feb 23, 2010, at 10:40 AM, Adrian Crum wrote:
>
>
>> It would be nice to get the new security code included in the branch - even if it is disabled. That will give release users an introduction to it and give them a chance to work on an upgrade strategy.
>>
>> -Adrian
>>
>> Anil Patel wrote:
>>
>>> So, are we set for next Ofbiz Branch named 10.04 ?
>>> If we decide on _date_, I can have a team of developers scheduled to start testing branch code. This will allow to quickly stabilize ofbiz release for common ecommerce use.
>>> How about EOD March 31st 10 GMT?
>>> Thanks and Regards
>>> Anil Patel
>>> HotWax Media Inc
>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz"
>>> On Feb 15, 2010, at 6:40 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>>
>>>> I agree but after Jacopo's message on dev ML about new release strategy (on which I mostly agree) I will at least delay it...
>>>>
>>>> Jacques
>>>>
>>>> From: "Bruno Busco" <br...@gmail.com>
>>>>
>>>>> In order to have this kind of issue scheduling could you please create
>>>>> a new OFBIZ version in jira and set the Fix Version of these issue on
>>>>> that?
>>>>> I do not see any clearer way to answer to Ashish question.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Bruno
>>>>>
>>>>> 2010/2/15 Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I expect to fulfill
>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3442
>>>>>> and maybe
>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3445
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In other word to use layer lookups instead of popup lookups everywhere it's
>>>>>> possible in OFBiz.
>>>>>> From my 1st serie of tests it seems to work well almost everywhere, WIP...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From: "Ashish Vijaywargiya" <vi...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think its time to start thinking on the things that should be taken
>>>>>>> care in / before release branch 10.04.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bug fixing should be the major area which should be taken care
>>>>>>> extensively in next two months.
>>>>>>> What about new features etc. etc.?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Please comment.
>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Ashish
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 6:47 AM, David E Jones <de...@me.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There is no set date yet. The last release was in April 2009 (hence the
>>>>>>>> version number of 09.04 on it), and the one before that was about 2 years
>>>>>>>> before. Chances are it won't be another 2 years before another release, but
>>>>>>>> probably at least a year... so perhaps we'll do another release branch in
>>>>>>>> around 4 months.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Dec 14, 2009, at 3:37 PM, Juan Pablo wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hello Community.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm testing the last trunk version and the demo version published in
>>>>>>>>> Internet (http://demo.ofbiz.org). They've got new functionality: help on
>>>>>>>>> line, new themes, new features in accounting, manufacturing and ordermgr
>>>>>>>>> components. The last stable versión is actually 9.04. So, ¿When will
>>>>>>>>> Ofbiz
>>>>>>>>> try a new stable release version?.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Gracias/Thank You.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Juan Pablo
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>
>
>
Re: New OFBiz stable release
Posted by Anil Patel <an...@hotwaxmedia.com>.
Makes sense to me. If we are decided on date, we still have a month to go. Gives plenty of time, may be :)
Thanks and Regards
Anil Patel
HotWax Media Inc
Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz"
On Feb 23, 2010, at 10:40 AM, Adrian Crum wrote:
> It would be nice to get the new security code included in the branch - even if it is disabled. That will give release users an introduction to it and give them a chance to work on an upgrade strategy.
>
> -Adrian
>
> Anil Patel wrote:
>> So, are we set for next Ofbiz Branch named 10.04 ?
>> If we decide on _date_, I can have a team of developers scheduled to start testing branch code. This will allow to quickly stabilize ofbiz release for common ecommerce use.
>> How about EOD March 31st 10 GMT?
>> Thanks and Regards
>> Anil Patel
>> HotWax Media Inc
>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz"
>> On Feb 15, 2010, at 6:40 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>> I agree but after Jacopo's message on dev ML about new release strategy (on which I mostly agree) I will at least delay it...
>>>
>>> Jacques
>>>
>>> From: "Bruno Busco" <br...@gmail.com>
>>>> In order to have this kind of issue scheduling could you please create
>>>> a new OFBIZ version in jira and set the Fix Version of these issue on
>>>> that?
>>>> I do not see any clearer way to answer to Ashish question.
>>>>
>>>> -Bruno
>>>>
>>>> 2010/2/15 Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>:
>>>>> I expect to fulfill
>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3442
>>>>> and maybe
>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3445
>>>>>
>>>>> In other word to use layer lookups instead of popup lookups everywhere it's
>>>>> possible in OFBiz.
>>>>> From my 1st serie of tests it seems to work well almost everywhere, WIP...
>>>>>
>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>
>>>>> From: "Ashish Vijaywargiya" <vi...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> I think its time to start thinking on the things that should be taken
>>>>>> care in / before release branch 10.04.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bug fixing should be the major area which should be taken care
>>>>>> extensively in next two months.
>>>>>> What about new features etc. etc.?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please comment.
>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Ashish
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 6:47 AM, David E Jones <de...@me.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> There is no set date yet. The last release was in April 2009 (hence the
>>>>>>> version number of 09.04 on it), and the one before that was about 2 years
>>>>>>> before. Chances are it won't be another 2 years before another release, but
>>>>>>> probably at least a year... so perhaps we'll do another release branch in
>>>>>>> around 4 months.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Dec 14, 2009, at 3:37 PM, Juan Pablo wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hello Community.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm testing the last trunk version and the demo version published in
>>>>>>>> Internet (http://demo.ofbiz.org). They've got new functionality: help on
>>>>>>>> line, new themes, new features in accounting, manufacturing and ordermgr
>>>>>>>> components. The last stable versión is actually 9.04. So, ¿When will
>>>>>>>> Ofbiz
>>>>>>>> try a new stable release version?.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Gracias/Thank You.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Juan Pablo
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
Re: New OFBiz stable release
Posted by Anil Patel <an...@hotwaxmedia.com>.
Jacques,
This is big one. With new backend theme and other UI goodies, Next release should be well accepted by community.
Thanks and Regards
Anil Patel
HotWax Media Inc
Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz"
On Feb 23, 2010, at 10:59 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
> Also I'd like to commit all the work around the layered lookups. It's pretty advanced, should be this weekend normally
>
> Jacques
>
> From: "Adrian Crum" <ad...@hlmksw.com>
>> It would be nice to get the new security code included in the branch - even if it is disabled. That will give release users an introduction to it and give them a chance to work on an upgrade strategy.
>>
>> -Adrian
>>
>> Anil Patel wrote:
>>> So, are we set for next Ofbiz Branch named 10.04 ?
>>>
>>> If we decide on _date_, I can have a team of developers scheduled to start testing branch code. This will allow to quickly stabilize ofbiz release for common ecommerce use.
>>>
>>> How about EOD March 31st 10 GMT?
>>>
>>> Thanks and Regards
>>> Anil Patel
>>> HotWax Media Inc
>>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz"
>>>
>>> On Feb 15, 2010, at 6:40 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>>
>>>> I agree but after Jacopo's message on dev ML about new release strategy (on which I mostly agree) I will at least delay it...
>>>>
>>>> Jacques
>>>>
>>>> From: "Bruno Busco" <br...@gmail.com>
>>>>> In order to have this kind of issue scheduling could you please create
>>>>> a new OFBIZ version in jira and set the Fix Version of these issue on
>>>>> that?
>>>>> I do not see any clearer way to answer to Ashish question.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Bruno
>>>>>
>>>>> 2010/2/15 Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>:
>>>>>> I expect to fulfill
>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3442
>>>>>> and maybe
>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3445
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In other word to use layer lookups instead of popup lookups everywhere it's
>>>>>> possible in OFBiz.
>>>>>> From my 1st serie of tests it seems to work well almost everywhere, WIP...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From: "Ashish Vijaywargiya" <vi...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> I think its time to start thinking on the things that should be taken
>>>>>>> care in / before release branch 10.04.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bug fixing should be the major area which should be taken care
>>>>>>> extensively in next two months.
>>>>>>> What about new features etc. etc.?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Please comment.
>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Ashish
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 6:47 AM, David E Jones <de...@me.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> There is no set date yet. The last release was in April 2009 (hence the
>>>>>>>> version number of 09.04 on it), and the one before that was about 2 years
>>>>>>>> before. Chances are it won't be another 2 years before another release, but
>>>>>>>> probably at least a year... so perhaps we'll do another release branch in
>>>>>>>> around 4 months.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Dec 14, 2009, at 3:37 PM, Juan Pablo wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hello Community.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm testing the last trunk version and the demo version published in
>>>>>>>>> Internet (http://demo.ofbiz.org). They've got new functionality: help on
>>>>>>>>> line, new themes, new features in accounting, manufacturing and ordermgr
>>>>>>>>> components. The last stable versión is actually 9.04. So, ¿When will
>>>>>>>>> Ofbiz
>>>>>>>>> try a new stable release version?.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Gracias/Thank You.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Juan Pablo
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
Re: New OFBiz stable release
Posted by Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>.
Also I'd like to commit all the work around the layered lookups. It's pretty advanced, should be this weekend normally
Jacques
From: "Adrian Crum" <ad...@hlmksw.com>
> It would be nice to get the new security code included in the branch - even if it is disabled. That will give release users an
> introduction to it and give them a chance to work on an upgrade strategy.
>
> -Adrian
>
> Anil Patel wrote:
>> So, are we set for next Ofbiz Branch named 10.04 ?
>>
>> If we decide on _date_, I can have a team of developers scheduled to start testing branch code. This will allow to quickly
>> stabilize ofbiz release for common ecommerce use.
>>
>> How about EOD March 31st 10 GMT?
>>
>> Thanks and Regards
>> Anil Patel
>> HotWax Media Inc
>> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz"
>>
>> On Feb 15, 2010, at 6:40 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>
>>> I agree but after Jacopo's message on dev ML about new release strategy (on which I mostly agree) I will at least delay it...
>>>
>>> Jacques
>>>
>>> From: "Bruno Busco" <br...@gmail.com>
>>>> In order to have this kind of issue scheduling could you please create
>>>> a new OFBIZ version in jira and set the Fix Version of these issue on
>>>> that?
>>>> I do not see any clearer way to answer to Ashish question.
>>>>
>>>> -Bruno
>>>>
>>>> 2010/2/15 Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>:
>>>>> I expect to fulfill
>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3442
>>>>> and maybe
>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3445
>>>>>
>>>>> In other word to use layer lookups instead of popup lookups everywhere it's
>>>>> possible in OFBiz.
>>>>> From my 1st serie of tests it seems to work well almost everywhere, WIP...
>>>>>
>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>
>>>>> From: "Ashish Vijaywargiya" <vi...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> I think its time to start thinking on the things that should be taken
>>>>>> care in / before release branch 10.04.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bug fixing should be the major area which should be taken care
>>>>>> extensively in next two months.
>>>>>> What about new features etc. etc.?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please comment.
>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Ashish
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 6:47 AM, David E Jones <de...@me.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> There is no set date yet. The last release was in April 2009 (hence the
>>>>>>> version number of 09.04 on it), and the one before that was about 2 years
>>>>>>> before. Chances are it won't be another 2 years before another release, but
>>>>>>> probably at least a year... so perhaps we'll do another release branch in
>>>>>>> around 4 months.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Dec 14, 2009, at 3:37 PM, Juan Pablo wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hello Community.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm testing the last trunk version and the demo version published in
>>>>>>>> Internet (http://demo.ofbiz.org). They've got new functionality: help on
>>>>>>>> line, new themes, new features in accounting, manufacturing and ordermgr
>>>>>>>> components. The last stable versión is actually 9.04. So, ¿When will
>>>>>>>> Ofbiz
>>>>>>>> try a new stable release version?.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Gracias/Thank You.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Juan Pablo
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
Re: New OFBiz stable release
Posted by Adrian Crum <ad...@hlmksw.com>.
It would be nice to get the new security code included in the branch -
even if it is disabled. That will give release users an introduction to
it and give them a chance to work on an upgrade strategy.
-Adrian
Anil Patel wrote:
> So, are we set for next Ofbiz Branch named 10.04 ?
>
> If we decide on _date_, I can have a team of developers scheduled to start testing branch code. This will allow to quickly stabilize ofbiz release for common ecommerce use.
>
> How about EOD March 31st 10 GMT?
>
> Thanks and Regards
> Anil Patel
> HotWax Media Inc
> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz"
>
> On Feb 15, 2010, at 6:40 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>
>> I agree but after Jacopo's message on dev ML about new release strategy (on which I mostly agree) I will at least delay it...
>>
>> Jacques
>>
>> From: "Bruno Busco" <br...@gmail.com>
>>> In order to have this kind of issue scheduling could you please create
>>> a new OFBIZ version in jira and set the Fix Version of these issue on
>>> that?
>>> I do not see any clearer way to answer to Ashish question.
>>>
>>> -Bruno
>>>
>>> 2010/2/15 Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>:
>>>> I expect to fulfill
>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3442
>>>> and maybe
>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3445
>>>>
>>>> In other word to use layer lookups instead of popup lookups everywhere it's
>>>> possible in OFBiz.
>>>> From my 1st serie of tests it seems to work well almost everywhere, WIP...
>>>>
>>>> Jacques
>>>>
>>>> From: "Ashish Vijaywargiya" <vi...@gmail.com>
>>>>> I think its time to start thinking on the things that should be taken
>>>>> care in / before release branch 10.04.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bug fixing should be the major area which should be taken care
>>>>> extensively in next two months.
>>>>> What about new features etc. etc.?
>>>>>
>>>>> Please comment.
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Ashish
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 6:47 AM, David E Jones <de...@me.com> wrote:
>>>>>> There is no set date yet. The last release was in April 2009 (hence the
>>>>>> version number of 09.04 on it), and the one before that was about 2 years
>>>>>> before. Chances are it won't be another 2 years before another release, but
>>>>>> probably at least a year... so perhaps we'll do another release branch in
>>>>>> around 4 months.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Dec 14, 2009, at 3:37 PM, Juan Pablo wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello Community.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm testing the last trunk version and the demo version published in
>>>>>>> Internet (http://demo.ofbiz.org). They've got new functionality: help on
>>>>>>> line, new themes, new features in accounting, manufacturing and ordermgr
>>>>>>> components. The last stable versión is actually 9.04. So, ¿When will
>>>>>>> Ofbiz
>>>>>>> try a new stable release version?.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Gracias/Thank You.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Juan Pablo
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>
>
Re: New OFBiz stable release
Posted by Anil Patel <an...@hotwaxmedia.com>.
So, are we set for next Ofbiz Branch named 10.04 ?
If we decide on _date_, I can have a team of developers scheduled to start testing branch code. This will allow to quickly stabilize ofbiz release for common ecommerce use.
How about EOD March 31st 10 GMT?
Thanks and Regards
Anil Patel
HotWax Media Inc
Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz"
On Feb 15, 2010, at 6:40 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
> I agree but after Jacopo's message on dev ML about new release strategy (on which I mostly agree) I will at least delay it...
>
> Jacques
>
> From: "Bruno Busco" <br...@gmail.com>
>> In order to have this kind of issue scheduling could you please create
>> a new OFBIZ version in jira and set the Fix Version of these issue on
>> that?
>> I do not see any clearer way to answer to Ashish question.
>>
>> -Bruno
>>
>> 2010/2/15 Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>:
>>> I expect to fulfill
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3442
>>> and maybe
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3445
>>>
>>> In other word to use layer lookups instead of popup lookups everywhere it's
>>> possible in OFBiz.
>>> From my 1st serie of tests it seems to work well almost everywhere, WIP...
>>>
>>> Jacques
>>>
>>> From: "Ashish Vijaywargiya" <vi...@gmail.com>
>>>>
>>>> I think its time to start thinking on the things that should be taken
>>>> care in / before release branch 10.04.
>>>>
>>>> Bug fixing should be the major area which should be taken care
>>>> extensively in next two months.
>>>> What about new features etc. etc.?
>>>>
>>>> Please comment.
>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Ashish
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 6:47 AM, David E Jones <de...@me.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> There is no set date yet. The last release was in April 2009 (hence the
>>>>> version number of 09.04 on it), and the one before that was about 2 years
>>>>> before. Chances are it won't be another 2 years before another release, but
>>>>> probably at least a year... so perhaps we'll do another release branch in
>>>>> around 4 months.
>>>>>
>>>>> -David
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Dec 14, 2009, at 3:37 PM, Juan Pablo wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello Community.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm testing the last trunk version and the demo version published in
>>>>>> Internet (http://demo.ofbiz.org). They've got new functionality: help on
>>>>>> line, new themes, new features in accounting, manufacturing and ordermgr
>>>>>> components. The last stable versión is actually 9.04. So, ¿When will
>>>>>> Ofbiz
>>>>>> try a new stable release version?.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gracias/Thank You.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Juan Pablo
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
Re: New OFBiz stable release
Posted by Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>.
I agree but after Jacopo's message on dev ML about new release strategy (on which I mostly agree) I will at least delay it...
Jacques
From: "Bruno Busco" <br...@gmail.com>
> In order to have this kind of issue scheduling could you please create
> a new OFBIZ version in jira and set the Fix Version of these issue on
> that?
> I do not see any clearer way to answer to Ashish question.
>
> -Bruno
>
> 2010/2/15 Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>:
>> I expect to fulfill
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3442
>> and maybe
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3445
>>
>> In other word to use layer lookups instead of popup lookups everywhere it's
>> possible in OFBiz.
>> From my 1st serie of tests it seems to work well almost everywhere, WIP...
>>
>> Jacques
>>
>> From: "Ashish Vijaywargiya" <vi...@gmail.com>
>>>
>>> I think its time to start thinking on the things that should be taken
>>> care in / before release branch 10.04.
>>>
>>> Bug fixing should be the major area which should be taken care
>>> extensively in next two months.
>>> What about new features etc. etc.?
>>>
>>> Please comment.
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> --
>>> Ashish
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 6:47 AM, David E Jones <de...@me.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> There is no set date yet. The last release was in April 2009 (hence the
>>>> version number of 09.04 on it), and the one before that was about 2 years
>>>> before. Chances are it won't be another 2 years before another release, but
>>>> probably at least a year... so perhaps we'll do another release branch in
>>>> around 4 months.
>>>>
>>>> -David
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Dec 14, 2009, at 3:37 PM, Juan Pablo wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello Community.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm testing the last trunk version and the demo version published in
>>>>> Internet (http://demo.ofbiz.org). They've got new functionality: help on
>>>>> line, new themes, new features in accounting, manufacturing and ordermgr
>>>>> components. The last stable versión is actually 9.04. So, ¿When will
>>>>> Ofbiz
>>>>> try a new stable release version?.
>>>>>
>>>>> Gracias/Thank You.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Juan Pablo
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
Re: New OFBiz stable release
Posted by Bruno Busco <br...@gmail.com>.
In order to have this kind of issue scheduling could you please create
a new OFBIZ version in jira and set the Fix Version of these issue on
that?
I do not see any clearer way to answer to Ashish question.
-Bruno
2010/2/15 Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>:
> I expect to fulfill
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3442
> and maybe
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3445
>
> In other word to use layer lookups instead of popup lookups everywhere it's
> possible in OFBiz.
> From my 1st serie of tests it seems to work well almost everywhere, WIP...
>
> Jacques
>
> From: "Ashish Vijaywargiya" <vi...@gmail.com>
>>
>> I think its time to start thinking on the things that should be taken
>> care in / before release branch 10.04.
>>
>> Bug fixing should be the major area which should be taken care
>> extensively in next two months.
>> What about new features etc. etc.?
>>
>> Please comment.
>> Thanks!
>>
>> --
>> Ashish
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 6:47 AM, David E Jones <de...@me.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> There is no set date yet. The last release was in April 2009 (hence the
>>> version number of 09.04 on it), and the one before that was about 2 years
>>> before. Chances are it won't be another 2 years before another release, but
>>> probably at least a year... so perhaps we'll do another release branch in
>>> around 4 months.
>>>
>>> -David
>>>
>>>
>>> On Dec 14, 2009, at 3:37 PM, Juan Pablo wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello Community.
>>>>
>>>> I'm testing the last trunk version and the demo version published in
>>>> Internet (http://demo.ofbiz.org). They've got new functionality: help on
>>>> line, new themes, new features in accounting, manufacturing and ordermgr
>>>> components. The last stable versión is actually 9.04. So, ¿When will
>>>> Ofbiz
>>>> try a new stable release version?.
>>>>
>>>> Gracias/Thank You.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Juan Pablo
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
>
Re: New OFBiz stable release
Posted by Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>.
I expect to fulfill
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3442
and maybe
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3445
In other word to use layer lookups instead of popup lookups everywhere it's possible in OFBiz.
>From my 1st serie of tests it seems to work well almost everywhere, WIP...
Jacques
From: "Ashish Vijaywargiya" <vi...@gmail.com>
>I think its time to start thinking on the things that should be taken
> care in / before release branch 10.04.
>
> Bug fixing should be the major area which should be taken care
> extensively in next two months.
> What about new features etc. etc.?
>
> Please comment.
> Thanks!
>
> --
> Ashish
>
> On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 6:47 AM, David E Jones <de...@me.com> wrote:
>>
>> There is no set date yet. The last release was in April 2009 (hence the version number of 09.04 on it), and the one before that
>> was about 2 years before. Chances are it won't be another 2 years before another release, but probably at least a year... so
>> perhaps we'll do another release branch in around 4 months.
>>
>> -David
>>
>>
>> On Dec 14, 2009, at 3:37 PM, Juan Pablo wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Community.
>>>
>>> I'm testing the last trunk version and the demo version published in
>>> Internet (http://demo.ofbiz.org). They've got new functionality: help on
>>> line, new themes, new features in accounting, manufacturing and ordermgr
>>> components. The last stable versión is actually 9.04. So, ¿When will Ofbiz
>>> try a new stable release version?.
>>>
>>> Gracias/Thank You.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Juan Pablo
>>
>>
>