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Posted to users@myfaces.apache.org by Andrew Robinson <an...@gmail.com> on 2007/08/03 18:39:44 UTC
MyFaces AJAX commons?
Related to the email I just sent asking about A4J and Trinidad, I am
wondering if there is an opening for a new MyFaces project. MyFaces
has no standard AJAX support. Sandbox fairly recently got some ppr
functionality and Trinidad has its own. It would be really nice to see
one common library for AJAX for myfaces.
The idea would be to have MyFaces AJAX. Then Trinidad, Tobago,
Tomahawk (and sandbox), and any new component libraries could leverage
this AJAX library. If done in a very abstracted way (interfaces,
factories, etc.), this library could even be more like the commons
logging project, meaning that it could use another technology under
the hood just like commons logging supports log4j as well as java
logging.
The reason I'd love to see this is so that people could use a
combination of MyFaces component libraries and have them all work
together. There may even be room for using A4J or even ICEFaces under
the hood if done right, so that all these libraries can be compatible.
I know this is a tricky area and hard to solidify one API that we can
agree on, but I think I would be a great step. It would be nice to be
able, as a tomahawk committer to write controls that would be AJAX'd
and work with Trinidad if someone wanted to use that library as well
for example.
If people think it is a good idea, we could start by moving code from
Trinidad for example.
Opinions?
-Andrew
RE: MyFaces AJAX commons?
Posted by "Kito D. Mann" <km...@virtua.com>.
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From: Grant Smith [mailto:work.grant@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 1:02 PM
To: MyFaces Discussion; MyFaces Development
Subject: Re: MyFaces AJAX commons?
I think this would be a great idea. From what I've seen, the new trinidad ajax code would be the best place to start.
On 8/3/07, Andrew Robinson < andrew.rw.robinson@gmail.com> wrote:
Related to the email I just sent asking about A4J and Trinidad, I am
wondering if there is an opening for a new MyFaces project. MyFaces
has no standard AJAX support. Sandbox fairly recently got some ppr
functionality and Trinidad has its own. It would be really nice to see
one common library for AJAX for myfaces.
The idea would be to have MyFaces AJAX. Then Trinidad, Tobago,
Tomahawk (and sandbox), and any new component libraries could leverage
this AJAX library. If done in a very abstracted way (interfaces,
factories, etc.), this library could even be more like the commons
logging project, meaning that it could use another technology under
the hood just like commons logging supports log4j as well as java
logging.
The reason I'd love to see this is so that people could use a
combination of MyFaces component libraries and have them all work
together. There may even be room for using A4J or even ICEFaces under
the hood if done right, so that all these libraries can be compatible.
I know this is a tricky area and hard to solidify one API that we can
agree on, but I think I would be a great step. It would be nice to be
able, as a tomahawk committer to write controls that would be AJAX'd
and work with Trinidad if someone wanted to use that library as well
for example.
If people think it is a good idea, we could start by moving code from
Trinidad for example.
Opinions?
-Andrew
--
Grant Smith
RE: MyFaces AJAX commons?
Posted by "Kito D. Mann" <km...@virtua.com>.
+10
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Kito D. Mann - Author, JavaServer Faces in Action
<http://www.virtua.com/> http://www.virtua.com - JSF/Java EE consulting, training, and mentoring
<http://www.jsfcentral.com/> http://www.JSFCentral.com - JavaServer Faces FAQ, news, and info
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From: Grant Smith [mailto:work.grant@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 1:02 PM
To: MyFaces Discussion; MyFaces Development
Subject: Re: MyFaces AJAX commons?
I think this would be a great idea. From what I've seen, the new trinidad ajax code would be the best place to start.
On 8/3/07, Andrew Robinson < andrew.rw.robinson@gmail.com> wrote:
Related to the email I just sent asking about A4J and Trinidad, I am
wondering if there is an opening for a new MyFaces project. MyFaces
has no standard AJAX support. Sandbox fairly recently got some ppr
functionality and Trinidad has its own. It would be really nice to see
one common library for AJAX for myfaces.
The idea would be to have MyFaces AJAX. Then Trinidad, Tobago,
Tomahawk (and sandbox), and any new component libraries could leverage
this AJAX library. If done in a very abstracted way (interfaces,
factories, etc.), this library could even be more like the commons
logging project, meaning that it could use another technology under
the hood just like commons logging supports log4j as well as java
logging.
The reason I'd love to see this is so that people could use a
combination of MyFaces component libraries and have them all work
together. There may even be room for using A4J or even ICEFaces under
the hood if done right, so that all these libraries can be compatible.
I know this is a tricky area and hard to solidify one API that we can
agree on, but I think I would be a great step. It would be nice to be
able, as a tomahawk committer to write controls that would be AJAX'd
and work with Trinidad if someone wanted to use that library as well
for example.
If people think it is a good idea, we could start by moving code from
Trinidad for example.
Opinions?
-Andrew
--
Grant Smith
Re: MyFaces AJAX commons?
Posted by Adam Winer <aw...@gmail.com>.
Yeah, this would be a good move. It's bad enough that
A4J + Trinidad PPR doesn't necessarily work together, but
Tomahawk and Trinidad PPR not working together? :)
-- Adam
On 8/3/07, Grant Smith <wo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I think this would be a great idea. From what I've seen, the new trinidad
> ajax code would be the best place to start.
>
>
> On 8/3/07, Andrew Robinson < andrew.rw.robinson@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Related to the email I just sent asking about A4J and Trinidad, I am
> > wondering if there is an opening for a new MyFaces project. MyFaces
> > has no standard AJAX support. Sandbox fairly recently got some ppr
> > functionality and Trinidad has its own. It would be really nice to see
> > one common library for AJAX for myfaces.
> >
> > The idea would be to have MyFaces AJAX. Then Trinidad, Tobago,
> > Tomahawk (and sandbox), and any new component libraries could leverage
> > this AJAX library. If done in a very abstracted way (interfaces,
> > factories, etc.), this library could even be more like the commons
> > logging project, meaning that it could use another technology under
> > the hood just like commons logging supports log4j as well as java
> > logging.
> >
> > The reason I'd love to see this is so that people could use a
> > combination of MyFaces component libraries and have them all work
> > together. There may even be room for using A4J or even ICEFaces under
> > the hood if done right, so that all these libraries can be compatible.
> >
> > I know this is a tricky area and hard to solidify one API that we can
> > agree on, but I think I would be a great step. It would be nice to be
> > able, as a tomahawk committer to write controls that would be AJAX'd
> > and work with Trinidad if someone wanted to use that library as well
> > for example.
> >
> > If people think it is a good idea, we could start by moving code from
> > Trinidad for example.
> >
> > Opinions?
> >
> > -Andrew
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Grant Smith
>
Re: MyFaces AJAX commons?
Posted by Grant Smith <wo...@gmail.com>.
I think this would be a great idea. From what I've seen, the new trinidad
ajax code would be the best place to start.
On 8/3/07, Andrew Robinson <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Related to the email I just sent asking about A4J and Trinidad, I am
> wondering if there is an opening for a new MyFaces project. MyFaces
> has no standard AJAX support. Sandbox fairly recently got some ppr
> functionality and Trinidad has its own. It would be really nice to see
> one common library for AJAX for myfaces.
>
> The idea would be to have MyFaces AJAX. Then Trinidad, Tobago,
> Tomahawk (and sandbox), and any new component libraries could leverage
> this AJAX library. If done in a very abstracted way (interfaces,
> factories, etc.), this library could even be more like the commons
> logging project, meaning that it could use another technology under
> the hood just like commons logging supports log4j as well as java
> logging.
>
> The reason I'd love to see this is so that people could use a
> combination of MyFaces component libraries and have them all work
> together. There may even be room for using A4J or even ICEFaces under
> the hood if done right, so that all these libraries can be compatible.
>
> I know this is a tricky area and hard to solidify one API that we can
> agree on, but I think I would be a great step. It would be nice to be
> able, as a tomahawk committer to write controls that would be AJAX'd
> and work with Trinidad if someone wanted to use that library as well
> for example.
>
> If people think it is a good idea, we could start by moving code from
> Trinidad for example.
>
> Opinions?
>
> -Andrew
>
--
Grant Smith
Re: MyFaces AJAX commons?
Posted by Grant Smith <wo...@gmail.com>.
I think this would be a great idea. From what I've seen, the new trinidad
ajax code would be the best place to start.
On 8/3/07, Andrew Robinson <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Related to the email I just sent asking about A4J and Trinidad, I am
> wondering if there is an opening for a new MyFaces project. MyFaces
> has no standard AJAX support. Sandbox fairly recently got some ppr
> functionality and Trinidad has its own. It would be really nice to see
> one common library for AJAX for myfaces.
>
> The idea would be to have MyFaces AJAX. Then Trinidad, Tobago,
> Tomahawk (and sandbox), and any new component libraries could leverage
> this AJAX library. If done in a very abstracted way (interfaces,
> factories, etc.), this library could even be more like the commons
> logging project, meaning that it could use another technology under
> the hood just like commons logging supports log4j as well as java
> logging.
>
> The reason I'd love to see this is so that people could use a
> combination of MyFaces component libraries and have them all work
> together. There may even be room for using A4J or even ICEFaces under
> the hood if done right, so that all these libraries can be compatible.
>
> I know this is a tricky area and hard to solidify one API that we can
> agree on, but I think I would be a great step. It would be nice to be
> able, as a tomahawk committer to write controls that would be AJAX'd
> and work with Trinidad if someone wanted to use that library as well
> for example.
>
> If people think it is a good idea, we could start by moving code from
> Trinidad for example.
>
> Opinions?
>
> -Andrew
>
--
Grant Smith