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Posted to derby-dev@db.apache.org by "Bergquist, Brett" <BB...@canoga.com> on 2015/10/22 15:12:41 UTC
RE: Derby received an error "ERROR XSDG0: Page
Page(1325564,Container(0, 30832)) could not be read from disk."
I finally was able to get a copy of the database. I wrote a utility program to run the consistency check functions on each table in the database as the database is very large and did not want to have to start over each time an error occurred an exclude the table. There was one table/index that reported a problem:
Checking PKG_9145E_V1.COS_ED_DROP_PROFILE_PCP_QMAPPING started at Wed Oct 21 19:55:00 EDT 2015 Failed at Wed Oct 21 19:59:27 EDT 201
5 with error: java.sql.SQLException: Inconsistency found between table 'PKG_9145E_V1.COS_ED_DROP_PROFILE_PCP_QMAPPING' and index 'SQ
L111109192512240'. Error when trying to retrieve row location '(583738,145)' from the table. The full index key, including the row
location, is '{ 54019451, (583738,145) }'. The suggested corrective action is to recreate the index.
So now my question is how to correct that. I see the reported suggested corrective action to recreate the index, but this index is the backing index for the primary key for the table (an INTEGER column in the table). So how do I go about recreating this backing index?
-----Original Message-----
From: mike matrigali [mailto:mikemapp1@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2015 9:35 PM
To: derby-dev@db.apache.org
Subject: Re: Derby received an error "ERROR XSDG0: Page Page(1325564,Container(0, 30832)) could not be read from disk."
if it is not truncated and still available when you get the db a complete derby.log containing the error would be interesting - if it does not have anything that can not be shared.
Derby does not handle I/O errors very well, and it's shutdown mechanism is definitely not clean. Often what happens is store encounters an I/O error and has no idea what to do at that point. It's default is to mark some key modules null so that it knows no update action can take place and fails the current transaction and trys to shutdown the whole system. Once system is shutdown reboot recovery is counted on to fix anything that was encountered, assuming nothing on disk was really corrupted. This sounds like what happened in your case, but i would always consistency check if there is a problem.
/mikem
On 9/4/2015 7:56 AM, Bergquist, Brett wrote:
> Thanks for the input!
>
> There is no possibility of running the consistency check on the customer's database on their system as it needs to be running 24x7 and cannot be taken down. As far as I can tell at this point, the database came back up ok after the restart and is operating normally.
>
> I am able to get a copy of the database via file system backup that occurs each night. Using ZFS allows us to do this by freezing the database (using FREEZE derby calls), doing a ZFS snapshot of the file system, unfreezing the database (using UNFREEZE derby call) and then accessing the ZFS snapshot to make the file system backup. It takes me a couple of days to get all of the database transferred but then I can stage it locally and run a consistency check on the local copy.
>
> I will open a JIRA on the NullPointerException's that were reported after Derby did its shutdown like Bryan suggested.
>
> For some background, the database is used in a telecommunications environment, being the persistent storage for the configuration for about 90K pieces of network equipment and receives about 10M monitoring updates per day 24x7. The database has been around for about 8 years continually growing and having derby being upgraded. It is currently at 10.10.2.0. We also do a poor man's partitioning in that we have 53 database tables, one for each week of the year, and our 10M inserts are directed to the correct database table for the week of the year and queries are built upon those weeks as well with a VIEW that is created as a UNION query across all 53 tables when needed to process queries that span weeks. We needed to do this as there was no practical way of deleting older data while simultaneously inserting data into the table at the rate or 10M/day and not having database performance issues, locking contention, and even getting the deletions done in a reasonable amount of time, and also recovering and reusing the freed database space. Now we simply truncate the tables that are to be purged which is nearly instantaneous. At some point I may investigate and contact the group here on how one might implement a real partitioning scheme that would be more efficient especially on the queries and add this capability back into derby, so if anyone has any ideas on this, I am all ears.
>
> Brett
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mike matrigali [mailto:mikemapp1@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, September 04, 2015 12:37 AM
> To: derby-dev@db.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Derby received an error "ERROR XSDG0: Page Page(1325564,Container(0, 30832)) could not be read from disk."
>
> I agree with all of bryan's suggestions. If you can't get access to the actual db there is not much to be done. My usual customer support answer to this situation would be to tell you to shut the db and do a consistency check on it, which would read every page from the table and would certainly run into the error you got eventually if there was a persistent problem.
> Given the size of the db and that derby has no optimizations for db's of this size that is likely to take some time.
>
> From the stack I can tell you that the problem is in a base page, not an index. Which is
> much harder to fix if it is persistent. In derby db's the output
> Container(0, 30832) is saying container in segment 0 (seg0
> directory) and container id
> 30832 (impressed by the number of containers that db has gone through). Also you will see system catalog talk about conglomerate numbers. In derby currently there is always a 1-1 mapping of conglomerate num to container number.
> Ancient history, in cloudscape we thought we might need the abstraction and it was a pain to do the map at the lowest level so we took the opportunity when we redid the arch to make it 1-1 for "now" but allow a map if anyone wanted to do one in the future:
> And here is a note from bryan minus 6 years on how to go from that number in the error to file name and table name.:
> http://bryanpendleton.blogspot.com/2009/09/whats-in-those-files-in-my-
> derby-db.html
>
> A quick check if you could get a ls -l of the seg0 directory would be to look at the size of the associated file and do the math bryan mentioned to see if the file now has a full page.
> including the page size if you figure it out would help as derby page size vs file system page size can be an issue - but usually only on machine crashes.
>
> I would suggest filing a JIRA for this. If it really is the case that you got the I/O error for a non-persistent problem it may be that derby can be improved to avoid it. Before the code was changed to use FileChannel's derby often had retry loops on I/O errors - especially on reads of pages from disk. In the long past this just avoided some intermittent i/o problems that were in most case network related (even though we likely did not support the network disk officially). Not sure if the old retry code is still around in the trunk as it was for running in older JVM's.
>
> Also I have also seen wierd timing errors from maybe multiple processing accessing the same file (like backup/virus/... vs the sever), but mostly on windows OS vs unix based ones.
>
> Getting a partial page read is a very weird error for derby as it goes out of its way to write only full pages.
> On 9/3/2015 5:39 PM, Bryan Pendleton wrote:
>> On 9/3/2015 3:35 PM, Bergquist, Brett wrote:
>>> Reached end of file while attempting to read a whole page
>> You should probably take a close read through all the discussion on
>> this slightly old Derby JIRA Issue:
>>
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DERBY-5234
>>
>> There are some suggestions about how to diagnose the conglomerate in
>> question in more detail, and also some observations about possible
>> causes and possible courses of action you can take subsequently.
>>
>> thanks,
>>
>> bryan
>>
>>
>
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>
>
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> Chatsworth, CA 91311
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RE: Derby received an error "ERROR XSDG0: Page
Page(1325564,Container(0, 30832)) could not be read from disk."
Posted by "Bergquist, Brett" <BB...@canoga.com>.
Answering my own question. I was able to use ALTER TABLE DROP PRIMARY KEY on the table and then ALTER TABLE ADD PRIMARY KEY to recreate the backing index.
-----Original Message-----
From: Bergquist, Brett [mailto:BBergquist@canoga.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 9:13 AM
To: derby-dev@db.apache.org
Subject: RE: Derby received an error "ERROR XSDG0: Page Page(1325564,Container(0, 30832)) could not be read from disk."
I finally was able to get a copy of the database. I wrote a utility program to run the consistency check functions on each table in the database as the database is very large and did not want to have to start over each time an error occurred an exclude the table. There was one table/index that reported a problem:
Checking PKG_9145E_V1.COS_ED_DROP_PROFILE_PCP_QMAPPING started at Wed Oct 21 19:55:00 EDT 2015 Failed at Wed Oct 21 19:59:27 EDT 201
5 with error: java.sql.SQLException: Inconsistency found between table 'PKG_9145E_V1.COS_ED_DROP_PROFILE_PCP_QMAPPING' and index 'SQ L111109192512240'. Error when trying to retrieve row location '(583738,145)' from the table. The full index key, including the row location, is '{ 54019451, (583738,145) }'. The suggested corrective action is to recreate the index.
So now my question is how to correct that. I see the reported suggested corrective action to recreate the index, but this index is the backing index for the primary key for the table (an INTEGER column in the table). So how do I go about recreating this backing index?
-----Original Message-----
From: mike matrigali [mailto:mikemapp1@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2015 9:35 PM
To: derby-dev@db.apache.org
Subject: Re: Derby received an error "ERROR XSDG0: Page Page(1325564,Container(0, 30832)) could not be read from disk."
if it is not truncated and still available when you get the db a complete derby.log containing the error would be interesting - if it does not have anything that can not be shared.
Derby does not handle I/O errors very well, and it's shutdown mechanism is definitely not clean. Often what happens is store encounters an I/O error and has no idea what to do at that point. It's default is to mark some key modules null so that it knows no update action can take place and fails the current transaction and trys to shutdown the whole system. Once system is shutdown reboot recovery is counted on to fix anything that was encountered, assuming nothing on disk was really corrupted. This sounds like what happened in your case, but i would always consistency check if there is a problem.
/mikem
On 9/4/2015 7:56 AM, Bergquist, Brett wrote:
> Thanks for the input!
>
> There is no possibility of running the consistency check on the customer's database on their system as it needs to be running 24x7 and cannot be taken down. As far as I can tell at this point, the database came back up ok after the restart and is operating normally.
>
> I am able to get a copy of the database via file system backup that occurs each night. Using ZFS allows us to do this by freezing the database (using FREEZE derby calls), doing a ZFS snapshot of the file system, unfreezing the database (using UNFREEZE derby call) and then accessing the ZFS snapshot to make the file system backup. It takes me a couple of days to get all of the database transferred but then I can stage it locally and run a consistency check on the local copy.
>
> I will open a JIRA on the NullPointerException's that were reported after Derby did its shutdown like Bryan suggested.
>
> For some background, the database is used in a telecommunications environment, being the persistent storage for the configuration for about 90K pieces of network equipment and receives about 10M monitoring updates per day 24x7. The database has been around for about 8 years continually growing and having derby being upgraded. It is currently at 10.10.2.0. We also do a poor man's partitioning in that we have 53 database tables, one for each week of the year, and our 10M inserts are directed to the correct database table for the week of the year and queries are built upon those weeks as well with a VIEW that is created as a UNION query across all 53 tables when needed to process queries that span weeks. We needed to do this as there was no practical way of deleting older data while simultaneously inserting data into the table at the rate or 10M/day and not having database performance issues, locking contention, and even getting the deletions done in a reasonable amount of time, and also recovering and reusing the freed database space. Now we simply truncate the tables that are to be purged which is nearly instantaneous. At some point I may investigate and contact the group here on how one might implement a real partitioning scheme that would be more efficient especially on the queries and add this capability back into derby, so if anyone has any ideas on this, I am all ears.
>
> Brett
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mike matrigali [mailto:mikemapp1@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, September 04, 2015 12:37 AM
> To: derby-dev@db.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Derby received an error "ERROR XSDG0: Page Page(1325564,Container(0, 30832)) could not be read from disk."
>
> I agree with all of bryan's suggestions. If you can't get access to the actual db there is not much to be done. My usual customer support answer to this situation would be to tell you to shut the db and do a consistency check on it, which would read every page from the table and would certainly run into the error you got eventually if there was a persistent problem.
> Given the size of the db and that derby has no optimizations for db's of this size that is likely to take some time.
>
> From the stack I can tell you that the problem is in a base page, not an index. Which is
> much harder to fix if it is persistent. In derby db's the output
> Container(0, 30832) is saying container in segment 0 (seg0
> directory) and container id
> 30832 (impressed by the number of containers that db has gone through). Also you will see system catalog talk about conglomerate numbers. In derby currently there is always a 1-1 mapping of conglomerate num to container number.
> Ancient history, in cloudscape we thought we might need the abstraction and it was a pain to do the map at the lowest level so we took the opportunity when we redid the arch to make it 1-1 for "now" but allow a map if anyone wanted to do one in the future:
> And here is a note from bryan minus 6 years on how to go from that number in the error to file name and table name.:
> http://bryanpendleton.blogspot.com/2009/09/whats-in-those-files-in-my-
> derby-db.html
>
> A quick check if you could get a ls -l of the seg0 directory would be to look at the size of the associated file and do the math bryan mentioned to see if the file now has a full page.
> including the page size if you figure it out would help as derby page size vs file system page size can be an issue - but usually only on machine crashes.
>
> I would suggest filing a JIRA for this. If it really is the case that you got the I/O error for a non-persistent problem it may be that derby can be improved to avoid it. Before the code was changed to use FileChannel's derby often had retry loops on I/O errors - especially on reads of pages from disk. In the long past this just avoided some intermittent i/o problems that were in most case network related (even though we likely did not support the network disk officially). Not sure if the old retry code is still around in the trunk as it was for running in older JVM's.
>
> Also I have also seen wierd timing errors from maybe multiple processing accessing the same file (like backup/virus/... vs the sever), but mostly on windows OS vs unix based ones.
>
> Getting a partial page read is a very weird error for derby as it goes out of its way to write only full pages.
> On 9/3/2015 5:39 PM, Bryan Pendleton wrote:
>> On 9/3/2015 3:35 PM, Bergquist, Brett wrote:
>>> Reached end of file while attempting to read a whole page
>> You should probably take a close read through all the discussion on
>> this slightly old Derby JIRA Issue:
>>
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DERBY-5234
>>
>> There are some suggestions about how to diagnose the conglomerate in
>> question in more detail, and also some observations about possible
>> causes and possible courses of action you can take subsequently.
>>
>> thanks,
>>
>> bryan
>>
>>
>
> --
> email: Mike Matrigali - mikemapp1@gmail.com
> linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/MikeMatrigali
>
>
> Canoga Perkins
> 20600 Prairie Street
> Chatsworth, CA 91311
> (818) 718-6300
>
> This e-mail and any attached document(s) is confidential and is intended only for the review of the party to whom it is addressed. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and discard the original message and any attachment(s).
>
--
email: Mike Matrigali - mikemapp1@gmail.com
linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/MikeMatrigali
Canoga Perkins
20600 Prairie Street
Chatsworth, CA 91311
(818) 718-6300
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