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Posted to xindice-users@xml.apache.org by Da...@empolis.com on 2008/10/23 18:08:34 UTC
Questions about dbxml dependencies
Hi all, I'm new to Xindice (Version 1.1).
In the developers guide
(http://xml.apache.org/xindice/1.1/guide-developer.html) I have read
that 3 APIs exist:
1) XML:DB XML Database API
2) XML-RPC API
3) Core Server API
Is it possible to build a distribution of Xindice supporting only 2) and
3) without any dependencies to the xmldb?
In the code most dependencies to xmldb are in the
org.apache.xindice.client.* packages, but there are also a few in the
org.apache.xindice.core.* packages. Would it be possible to remove the
latter dependencies ?
Bye,
Daniel
Re: Questions about dbxml dependencies
Posted by Natalia Shilenkova <ns...@gmail.com>.
Hi Daniel,
I'll add the suggestion to remove the dependcencies on xmldb libraries
from Xindice server part to the TODO list for 1.2 release. If you
decide to use Xindice and modify the code to make it compliant to your
requirements, you can always help by sending the patch.
Regards,
Natalia
On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 10:40 AM, <Da...@empolis.com> wrote:
>> Von: Natalia Shilenkova [mailto:nshilenkova@gmail.com]
>> Gesendet: Freitag, 24. Oktober 2008 20:34
>> An: xindice-users@xml.apache.org
>> Betreff: Re: Questions about dbxml dependencies
>>
>> I see. I don't know much about eclipse legal process, but XML:DB
>> license should be compatible with EPL. Is it possible to check if
>> xmldb libraries are going to be a problem?
>
> Unfortunately checking is only possible by creating a Contribution
> Questionnaire for xmldb libraries.
> As this causes effort for eclipse legal team it should not be done just
> for checking out potential problems.
>
> Bye,
> Daniel
>
>
>
AW: Questions about dbxml dependencies
Posted by Da...@empolis.com.
> Von: Natalia Shilenkova [mailto:nshilenkova@gmail.com]
> Gesendet: Freitag, 24. Oktober 2008 20:34
> An: xindice-users@xml.apache.org
> Betreff: Re: Questions about dbxml dependencies
>
> I see. I don't know much about eclipse legal process, but XML:DB
> license should be compatible with EPL. Is it possible to check if
> xmldb libraries are going to be a problem?
Unfortunately checking is only possible by creating a Contribution
Questionnaire for xmldb libraries.
As this causes effort for eclipse legal team it should not be done just
for checking out potential problems.
Bye,
Daniel
Re: Questions about dbxml dependencies
Posted by Natalia Shilenkova <ns...@gmail.com>.
I see. I don't know much about eclipse legal process, but XML:DB
license should be compatible with EPL. Is it possible to check if
xmldb libraries are going to be a problem?
It probably won't be too much of a trouble to remove dependencies on
xmldb from xindice.core, but it also means that Xindice building
process (and possibly code) has to change to separate server and
client parts completely. The idea itself is not bad and can make it to
official release some day, but customizing the code can make upgrading
to the next version more difficult.
Anyway, if I am not mistaken, xindice.core only uses two classes from
xmldb: XMLDBException and ErrorCodes. The same two classes are used in
xindice.server which is necessary for XML-RPC. There are also
general-purpose packages, but they should not depend on xmldb...
Also, XUpdate functionality (xindice.core.xupdate) depends on
xmldb-update library so you won't be able to use that at all.
I think that's it.
Regards,
Natalia
On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 10:03 AM, <Da...@empolis.com> wrote:
> Hi, thanks for your answer.
>
> The background of my question is that we think about using xindice in the eclipse open source project SMILA.
> The state of xmldb is not quite clear to me. As far as I know there exists no release, yet. This may cause problems in eclipse legal process.
> We have no special need for api 1), so if 2) and 3) could be made available without the need for xmldb that would be a feasible solution for us.
>
> Would cleanup of org.apache.xindice.core.* be enough for this use case ?
>
> Bye,
> Daniel
>
AW: Questions about dbxml dependencies
Posted by Da...@empolis.com.
Hi, thanks for your answer.
The background of my question is that we think about using xindice in the eclipse open source project SMILA.
The state of xmldb is not quite clear to me. As far as I know there exists no release, yet. This may cause problems in eclipse legal process.
We have no special need for api 1), so if 2) and 3) could be made available without the need for xmldb that would be a feasible solution for us.
Would cleanup of org.apache.xindice.core.* be enough for this use case ?
Bye,
Daniel
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Natalia Shilenkova [mailto:nshilenkova@gmail.com]
> Gesendet: Freitag, 24. Oktober 2008 15:04
> An: xindice-users@xml.apache.org
> Betreff: Re: Questions about dbxml dependencies
>
> On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 12:08 PM, <Da...@empolis.com> wrote:
> > Hi all, I'm new to Xindice (Version 1.1).
> > In the developers guide
> > (http://xml.apache.org/xindice/1.1/guide-developer.html) I have read
> > that 3 APIs exist:
> > 1) XML:DB XML Database API
> > 2) XML-RPC API
> > 3) Core Server API
> >
> > Is it possible to build a distribution of Xindice supporting only 2)
> and
> > 3) without any dependencies to the xmldb?
> > In the code most dependencies to xmldb are in the
> > org.apache.xindice.client.* packages, but there are also a few in the
> > org.apache.xindice.core.* packages. Would it be possible to remove
> the
> > latter dependencies ?
>
> Well, I guess it is possible to remove usages of xmldb-api classes
> from xindice.core. Completely removing all dependencies on xmldb
> libraries will require a lot of changes, but I am not sure why you
> would want to do that.
>
> What is that you are trying to achieve?
>
> Natalia
>
> > Bye,
> > Daniel
> >
Re: Questions about dbxml dependencies
Posted by Natalia Shilenkova <ns...@gmail.com>.
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 12:08 PM, <Da...@empolis.com> wrote:
> Hi all, I'm new to Xindice (Version 1.1).
> In the developers guide
> (http://xml.apache.org/xindice/1.1/guide-developer.html) I have read
> that 3 APIs exist:
> 1) XML:DB XML Database API
> 2) XML-RPC API
> 3) Core Server API
>
> Is it possible to build a distribution of Xindice supporting only 2) and
> 3) without any dependencies to the xmldb?
> In the code most dependencies to xmldb are in the
> org.apache.xindice.client.* packages, but there are also a few in the
> org.apache.xindice.core.* packages. Would it be possible to remove the
> latter dependencies ?
Well, I guess it is possible to remove usages of xmldb-api classes
from xindice.core. Completely removing all dependencies on xmldb
libraries will require a lot of changes, but I am not sure why you
would want to do that.
What is that you are trying to achieve?
Natalia
> Bye,
> Daniel
>