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[PROPOSAL] Fix Release Distribution (Outside maven repo)

infra requires that all releases are contained within
/www/www.apache.org/dist/. here's my proposal for fixing the current
situation for standard (non-maven) releases:

1 clarify policy (https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-62)
2 explain policy in release management guide
3 create /www/www.apache.org/dist/incubator but no subdirectories as yet
4 locate and archive all existing incubator releases
5 link current releases in archived version
6 generate unified download script for incubator from meta-data. the
unified download page will contain a disclaimer.
7 create directories for all current podlings with standard layout and
appropriate permissions. README.html documents will contain the
disclaimer
8 new releases are placed are mirrored and placed into the appropriate
subdirectory of /www/www.apache.org/dist/incubator

quick opinions can use poll below

- robert

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[ ] +0
[ ] -0
[ ] -1
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Re: [PROPOSAL] Fix Release Distribution (Outside maven repo)

Posted by Martijn Dashorst <ma...@gmail.com>.
> [X] +1 (non-binding)

Sounds like a plan.

Martijn

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Re: [PROPOSAL] Fix Release Distribution (Outside maven repo)

Posted by Thilo Goetz <tw...@gmx.de>.
robert burrell donkin wrote:
...
> quick opinions can use poll below
> 
> - robert
> 
> ----8<------------------------------------------------------------
> [X] +1 (non-binding)

Sounds good.  I'm no good with html or javascript, but I'd be happy to 
help with the docs.

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Re: [PROPOSAL] Fix Release Distribution (Outside maven repo)

Posted by robert burrell donkin <ro...@gmail.com>.
On 5/7/07, Craig L Russell <Cr...@sun.com> wrote:
> Hi Robert,
>
> On May 7, 2007, at 12:04 AM, robert burrell donkin wrote:
>
> > On 5/7/07, Craig L Russell <Cr...@sun.com> wrote:
> >> Hi Robert,
> >>
> >> +1 for getting this going.
> >>
> >> My only concern is the slightly ambiguous #7. I don't know that there
> >> is a standard layout for releases. It sure would be nice.
> >
> > there is a standard layout for the directory structure containing the
> > artifacts but the documentation describing it isn't anywhere obvious
> >
> >> I really hate to bring up maven since the subject is clearly non-
> >> maven, but I expect many projects to build the source and binary
> >> release artifacts using maven. So it might be good to see what the
> >> maven folks would produce, before we hard code the standard layout.
> >
> > the standard layout is based on requirements for efficient mirroring
> > and predates the maven repository here at apache
>
> Can you give me a pointer to the standard layout?

not easily until i patch the documentation ;-)

http://www.apache.org/dist/ant/ is an example

- robert

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Re: [PROPOSAL] Fix Release Distribution (Outside maven repo)

Posted by Craig L Russell <Cr...@Sun.COM>.
Hi Robert,

On May 7, 2007, at 12:04 AM, robert burrell donkin wrote:

> On 5/7/07, Craig L Russell <Cr...@sun.com> wrote:
>> Hi Robert,
>>
>> +1 for getting this going.
>>
>> My only concern is the slightly ambiguous #7. I don't know that there
>> is a standard layout for releases. It sure would be nice.
>
> there is a standard layout for the directory structure containing the
> artifacts but the documentation describing it isn't anywhere obvious
>
>> I really hate to bring up maven since the subject is clearly non-
>> maven, but I expect many projects to build the source and binary
>> release artifacts using maven. So it might be good to see what the
>> maven folks would produce, before we hard code the standard layout.
>
> the standard layout is based on requirements for efficient mirroring
> and predates the maven repository here at apache

Can you give me a pointer to the standard layout?

Thanks,

Craig
>
> - robert
>
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Re: [PROPOSAL] Fix Release Distribution (Outside maven repo)

Posted by robert burrell donkin <ro...@gmail.com>.
On 5/7/07, Craig L Russell <Cr...@sun.com> wrote:
> Hi Robert,
>
> +1 for getting this going.
>
> My only concern is the slightly ambiguous #7. I don't know that there
> is a standard layout for releases. It sure would be nice.

there is a standard layout for the directory structure containing the
artifacts but the documentation describing it isn't anywhere obvious

> I really hate to bring up maven since the subject is clearly non-
> maven, but I expect many projects to build the source and binary
> release artifacts using maven. So it might be good to see what the
> maven folks would produce, before we hard code the standard layout.

the standard layout is based on requirements for efficient mirroring
and predates the maven repository here at apache

- robert

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Re: [PROPOSAL] Fix Release Distribution (Outside maven repo)

Posted by Craig L Russell <Cr...@Sun.COM>.
Hi Robert,

+1 for getting this going.

My only concern is the slightly ambiguous #7. I don't know that there  
is a standard layout for releases. It sure would be nice.

I really hate to bring up maven since the subject is clearly non- 
maven, but I expect many projects to build the source and binary  
release artifacts using maven. So it might be good to see what the  
maven folks would produce, before we hard code the standard layout.

Craig

On May 6, 2007, at 4:45 AM, robert burrell donkin wrote:

> infra requires that all releases are contained within
> /www/www.apache.org/dist/. here's my proposal for fixing the current
> situation for standard (non-maven) releases:
>
> 1 clarify policy (https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-62)
> 2 explain policy in release management guide
> 3 create /www/www.apache.org/dist/incubator but no subdirectories  
> as yet
> 4 locate and archive all existing incubator releases
> 5 link current releases in archived version
> 6 generate unified download script for incubator from meta-data. the
> unified download page will contain a disclaimer.
> 7 create directories for all current podlings with standard layout and
> appropriate permissions. README.html documents will contain the
> disclaimer
> 8 new releases are placed are mirrored and placed into the appropriate
> subdirectory of /www/www.apache.org/dist/incubator
>
> quick opinions can use poll below
>
> - robert
>
> ----8<------------------------------------------------------------
> [ ] +1
> [ ] +0
> [ ] -0
> [ ] -1
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>
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Craig Russell
Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://java.sun.com/products/jdo
408 276-5638 mailto:Craig.Russell@sun.com
P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!


Re: [PROPOSAL] Fix Release Distribution (Outside maven repo)

Posted by Xavier Hanin <xa...@gmail.com>.
[X] +1

Xavier

On 5/6/07, robert burrell donkin <ro...@gmail.com> wrote:
> infra requires that all releases are contained within
> /www/www.apache.org/dist/. here's my proposal for fixing the current
> situation for standard (non-maven) releases:
>
> 1 clarify policy (https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-62)
> 2 explain policy in release management guide
> 3 create /www/www.apache.org/dist/incubator but no subdirectories as yet
> 4 locate and archive all existing incubator releases
> 5 link current releases in archived version
> 6 generate unified download script for incubator from meta-data. the
> unified download page will contain a disclaimer.
> 7 create directories for all current podlings with standard layout and
> appropriate permissions. README.html documents will contain the
> disclaimer
> 8 new releases are placed are mirrored and placed into the appropriate
> subdirectory of /www/www.apache.org/dist/incubator
>
> quick opinions can use poll below
>
> - robert
>
> ----8<------------------------------------------------------------
> [ ] +1
> [ ] +0
> [ ] -0
> [ ] -1
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
>
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Re: [PROPOSAL] Fix Release Distribution (Outside maven repo)

Posted by robert burrell donkin <ro...@gmail.com>.
On 5/7/07, Leo Simons <ma...@leosimons.com> wrote:
> On May 6, 2007, at 1:45 PM, robert burrell donkin wrote:
> > 7 create directories for all current podlings with standard layout and
> > appropriate permissions. README.html documents will contain the
> > disclaimer
>
> I would prefer to see a tool created that creates (or check structure
> of)
> directories rather than actually pre-creating them. It avoids having
> lots
> of empty directories. Useful as well when a new podling arrives.

sounds like the right approach

- robert

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Re: [PROPOSAL] Fix Release Distribution (Outside maven repo)

Posted by Leo Simons <ma...@leosimons.com>.
On May 6, 2007, at 1:45 PM, robert burrell donkin wrote:
> 7 create directories for all current podlings with standard layout and
> appropriate permissions. README.html documents will contain the
> disclaimer

I would prefer to see a tool created that creates (or check structure  
of)
directories rather than actually pre-creating them. It avoids having  
lots
of empty directories. Useful as well when a new podling arrives.

> [X] +1
> [ ] +0
> [ ] -0
> [ ] -1

- Leo


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Re: [PROPOSAL] Fix Release Distribution (Outside maven repo)

Posted by Daniel Kulp <da...@iona.com>.
On Sunday 06 May 2007 07:45, robert burrell donkin wrote:
> ----8<------------------------------------------------------------
> [ X ] +1

I'm glad this this finally being taken care of.  Thanks for picking it up 
and driving it forward.


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Re: [PROPOSAL] Fix Release Distribution (Outside maven repo)

Posted by "William A. Rowe, Jr." <wr...@rowe-clan.net>.
robert burrell donkin wrote:
> infra requires that all releases are contained within
> /www/www.apache.org/dist/. here's my proposal for fixing the current
> situation for standard (non-maven) releases:
> 
> 1 clarify policy (https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-62)
> 2 explain policy in release management guide
> 3 create /www/www.apache.org/dist/incubator but no subdirectories as yet
> 4 locate and archive all existing incubator releases
> 5 link current releases in archived version
> 6 generate unified download script for incubator from meta-data. the
> unified download page will contain a disclaimer.
> 7 create directories for all current podlings with standard layout and
> appropriate permissions. README.html documents will contain the
> disclaimer
> 8 new releases are placed are mirrored and placed into the appropriate
> subdirectory of /www/www.apache.org/dist/incubator

+= 8

:)

Bill

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Re: [PROPOSAL] Fix Release Distribution (Outside maven repo)

Posted by Henri Yandell <fl...@gmail.com>.
+1, and apologies for losing energy on doing all this after the last
vote/enormous thread.

Hen

On 5/6/07, robert burrell donkin <ro...@gmail.com> wrote:
> infra requires that all releases are contained within
> /www/www.apache.org/dist/. here's my proposal for fixing the current
> situation for standard (non-maven) releases:
>
> 1 clarify policy (https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-62)
> 2 explain policy in release management guide
> 3 create /www/www.apache.org/dist/incubator but no subdirectories as yet
> 4 locate and archive all existing incubator releases
> 5 link current releases in archived version
> 6 generate unified download script for incubator from meta-data. the
> unified download page will contain a disclaimer.
> 7 create directories for all current podlings with standard layout and
> appropriate permissions. README.html documents will contain the
> disclaimer
> 8 new releases are placed are mirrored and placed into the appropriate
> subdirectory of /www/www.apache.org/dist/incubator
>
> quick opinions can use poll below
>
> - robert
>
> ----8<------------------------------------------------------------
> [ ] +1
> [ ] +0
> [ ] -0
> [ ] -1
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
>
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>

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