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Posted to user@turbine.apache.org by Ilkka Priha <ex...@nokia.com> on 2001/03/03 22:10:39 UTC
UML diagrams from Turbine
I have now made a few UML diagrams, which are more thorough than my usual
sketches. They can be found from http://members.surfeu.fi/ipriha including
the project file containing the reverse engineered Turbine source. The UML
tool used is MagicDraw, which is unfortunately a commercial one, but not as
expensive as Rose or Together/J.
Any comments about usefulness of this kind of diagrams, ideas for other
areas to be covered, and proposals on ways of using UML in documents to be
included in CVS are welcome.
- Ilkka
--
Nokia Networks
http://www.nokia.com/networks
mail: ext-ilkka.priha@nokia.com
Re: UML diagrams from Turbine
Posted by Daniel Rall <dl...@collab.net>.
Jason van Zyl <jv...@periapt.com> writes:
> > What about the XMI project file? Is there a recommended location for that kind
> > of files in CVS?
> >
>
> How about a uml directory. I would like to try and play with
> the XMI in argouml.
Ditto.
--
Daniel Rall <dl...@collab.net>
Re: UML diagrams from Turbine
Posted by Jason van Zyl <jv...@periapt.com>.
Ilkka Priha wrote:
> Actually, the project file is in XMI UML format, which is also supported by
> argouml. I've not tested how well the exchange between tools works.
>
> The diagrams themselves can be exported in jpg, png, wmf, eps, dxf and svg
> formats, which allow some editing with common drawing tools. Should I put any of
> these, in addition to png, into CVS?
>
I think the PNG is fine.
>
> What about the XMI project file? Is there a recommended location for that kind
> of files in CVS?
>
How about a uml directory. I would like to try and play with
the XMI in argouml.
--
jvz.
Jason van Zyl
jvanzyl@periapt.com
http://jakarta.apache.org/velocity
http://jakarta.apache.org/turbine
RE: UML diagrams from Turbine
Posted by Ilkka Priha <ex...@nokia.com>.
Actually, the project file is in XMI UML format, which is also supported by
argouml. I've not tested how well the exchange between tools works.
The diagrams themselves can be exported in jpg, png, wmf, eps, dxf and svg
formats, which allow some editing with common drawing tools. Should I put any of
these, in addition to png, into CVS?
What about the XMI project file? Is there a recommended location for that kind
of files in CVS?
-- Ilkka
[mailto:ext-ilkka.priha@nokia.com]
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To: ext-ilkka.priha@nokia.com
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Subject: Re: UML diagrams from Turbine
"Ilkka Priha" <ex...@nokia.com> writes:
> I have now made a few UML diagrams, which are more thorough than my usual
> sketches. They can be found from http://members.surfeu.fi/ipriha including
> the project file containing the reverse engineered Turbine source. The UML
> tool used is MagicDraw, which is unfortunately a commercial one, but not as
> expensive as Rose or Together/J.
>
> Any comments about usefulness of this kind of diagrams, ideas for other
> areas to be covered, and proposals on ways of using UML in documents to be
> included in CVS are welcome.
I would be interested in having Argo/UML <http://argouml.tigris.org/>
based diagrams so that they'd be edittable without purchasing a
commercial UML tool.
Thank you for putting in the time to produce UML diagrams! They are
invaluable.
--
Daniel Rall <dl...@collab.net>
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Re: UML diagrams from Turbine
Posted by Jon Stevens <jo...@latchkey.com>.
on 3/4/01 11:00 AM, "Daniel Rall" <dl...@collab.net> wrote:
> I would be interested in having Argo/UML <http://argouml.tigris.org/>
> based diagrams so that they'd be edittable without purchasing a
> commercial UML tool.
>
> Thank you for putting in the time to produce UML diagrams! They are
> invaluable.
What would be great, but Argo isn't able to reverse engineer the code. :-(
-jon
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your pain to new levels. --Anonymous
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Re: UML diagrams from Turbine
Posted by Daniel Rall <dl...@collab.net>.
"Ilkka Priha" <ex...@nokia.com> writes:
> I have now made a few UML diagrams, which are more thorough than my usual
> sketches. They can be found from http://members.surfeu.fi/ipriha including
> the project file containing the reverse engineered Turbine source. The UML
> tool used is MagicDraw, which is unfortunately a commercial one, but not as
> expensive as Rose or Together/J.
>
> Any comments about usefulness of this kind of diagrams, ideas for other
> areas to be covered, and proposals on ways of using UML in documents to be
> included in CVS are welcome.
I would be interested in having Argo/UML <http://argouml.tigris.org/>
based diagrams so that they'd be edittable without purchasing a
commercial UML tool.
Thank you for putting in the time to produce UML diagrams! They are
invaluable.
--
Daniel Rall <dl...@collab.net>
Re: UML diagrams from Turbine
Posted by Jason van Zyl <jv...@periapt.com>.
On Sat, 3 Mar 2001, Jon Stevens wrote:
> on 3/3/01 2:02 PM, "Jason van Zyl" <jv...@periapt.com> wrote:
>
> > Those are awesome!
> >
> > We should definitely definitely put those in CVS, they
> > really are great!
> >
> > I would say make a directory in the docs/images directory
> > and place them in there, and maybe make a simple xdoc
> > to point to them. That would be a fantastic addition,
> > nice work.
> >
> > jvz.
>
> I concur. These rock!
>
> Actually, put them in xdocs/images and then let the build system copy them
> over to docs/images.
Sorry, that's what I meant :-)
jvz.
> thanks,
>
> -jon
>
> --
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> your pain to new levels. --Anonymous
> <http://jakarta.apache.org/velocity/ymtd/ymtd.html>
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RE: UML diagrams from Turbine
Posted by Ilkka Priha <ex...@nokia.com>.
Thanks for the kind words. It's the new Java based UML tools that integrate
really nicely in your development environment and do the job for you based
on the source. This kind of diagrams take less than half an hour each to
make (well, going through Turbine's request processing may have taken a bit
more time ;-).
Anyway, the set in http://members.surfeu.fi/ipriha is now also in CVS under
xdocs/images.
-- Ilkka
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From: Jon Stevens [mailto:jon@latchkey.com]
Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2001 00:40
To: turbine-user@jakarta.apache.org
Subject: Re: UML diagrams from Turbine
on 3/3/01 2:02 PM, "Jason van Zyl" <jv...@periapt.com> wrote:
> Those are awesome!
>
> We should definitely definitely put those in CVS, they
> really are great!
>
> I would say make a directory in the docs/images directory
> and place them in there, and maybe make a simple xdoc
> to point to them. That would be a fantastic addition,
> nice work.
>
> jvz.
I concur. These rock!
Actually, put them in xdocs/images and then let the build system copy them
over to docs/images.
thanks,
-jon
--
If you come from a Perl or PHP background, JSP is a way to take
your pain to new levels. --Anonymous
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Re: UML diagrams from Turbine
Posted by Jon Stevens <jo...@latchkey.com>.
on 3/3/01 2:02 PM, "Jason van Zyl" <jv...@periapt.com> wrote:
> Those are awesome!
>
> We should definitely definitely put those in CVS, they
> really are great!
>
> I would say make a directory in the docs/images directory
> and place them in there, and maybe make a simple xdoc
> to point to them. That would be a fantastic addition,
> nice work.
>
> jvz.
I concur. These rock!
Actually, put them in xdocs/images and then let the build system copy them
over to docs/images.
thanks,
-jon
--
If you come from a Perl or PHP background, JSP is a way to take
your pain to new levels. --Anonymous
<http://jakarta.apache.org/velocity/ymtd/ymtd.html>
Re: UML diagrams from Turbine
Posted by Jason van Zyl <jv...@periapt.com>.
Those are awesome!
We should definitely definitely put those in CVS, they
really are great!
I would say make a directory in the docs/images directory
and place them in there, and maybe make a simple xdoc
to point to them. That would be a fantastic addition,
nice work.
jvz.
On Sat, 3 Mar 2001, Ilkka Priha wrote:
> I have now made a few UML diagrams, which are more thorough than my usual
> sketches. They can be found from http://members.surfeu.fi/ipriha including
> the project file containing the reverse engineered Turbine source. The UML
> tool used is MagicDraw, which is unfortunately a commercial one, but not as
> expensive as Rose or Together/J.
>
> Any comments about usefulness of this kind of diagrams, ideas for other
> areas to be covered, and proposals on ways of using UML in documents to be
> included in CVS are welcome.
>
> - Ilkka
> --
> Nokia Networks
> http://www.nokia.com/networks
> mail: ext-ilkka.priha@nokia.com
>
>
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