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Tools for Managing a Wicket Project
My boss has asked me to manage development for a Java project. I'm going to
be working with two other programmers and one designer.
This is the first time that our organization has tried to formally
coordinate several programmers on a project together, and it is also the
first Java project we've done here (I'm the only programmer with extensive
Java experience). I chose to use Wicket for this project because it seemed
to be the most intuitive framework, and because I hope it will make it easy
for the designer and programmers to work together without stepping on each
others toes.
At my previous job, we used CVS for managing code contribution and Ant for
deployment. Is that still a good solution, or should I be looking at other
tools? Also, how do you coordinate the designer's work with the programmers'
work?
My goal is to find a few tools that
- work well with Wicket
- make it easy for programmers to check code in and out
- manage project dependencies
- are easy to set up
- are easy to use
- are free
I appreciate any and all suggestions. Thanks for your help!
Re: Tools for Managing a Wicket Project
Posted by Conrad Hesse <co...@googlemail.com>.
Hi Dane,
> At my previous job, we used CVS for managing code contribution and Ant for
> deployment. Is that still a good solution, or should I be looking at other
> tools? Also, how do you coordinate the designer's work with the
> programmers'
> work?
>
>
Although I would choose SVN you probably won't notice much of a difference
to CVS. Many of it's advantages (like keeping logs of renamed files, fast
compare to base revision, ...) are neglectable when using it in combination
e.g. eclipse.
I would stick to Ant. I don't like Mavens configurative approach. Also, I
find it harder to get decent documentation/help on the web. If Ant works for
you there is no need to switch. If you want dependency management look at
Ivy for ant.
We currently use Hudson for continuous integration. I love it. It it easy to
set up and configure. Nice interface. Just works.
About the coordination with designers: From my experience it works easy if
the designer has some basic knowledge about how wicket works. In my current
project the design was done pretty late (imo too late) and the first html
pages were coded by the developers. Later the designers kicked in and worked
on their own branch while developers continued on the main trunk. I would
try to avoid scenario.
Re: Tools for Managing a Wicket Project
Posted by Curtis Cooley <cu...@venture.com.sg>.
Dane Laverty wrote:
> My boss has asked me to manage development for a Java project. I'm going to
> be working with two other programmers and one designer.
>
> This is the first time that our organization has tried to formally
> coordinate several programmers on a project together, and it is also the
> first Java project we've done here (I'm the only programmer with extensive
> Java experience). I chose to use Wicket for this project because it seemed
> to be the most intuitive framework, and because I hope it will make it easy
> for the designer and programmers to work together without stepping on each
> others toes.
>
> At my previous job, we used CVS for managing code contribution and Ant for
> deployment. Is that still a good solution, or should I be looking at other
> tools? Also, how do you coordinate the designer's work with the programmers'
> work?
>
> My goal is to find a few tools that
> - work well with Wicket
> - make it easy for programmers to check code in and out
> - manage project dependencies
> - are easy to set up
> - are easy to use
> - are free
>
> I appreciate any and all suggestions. Thanks for your help!
>
>
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Re: Tools for Managing a Wicket Project
Posted by Per Lundholm <pe...@gmail.com>.
No tools require an internet connection all the time. The repositories
Nexus, Archiva etc are local to your site. They only download from the
internet when you ask for something the first time.
That is one reason for having a local repository manager. Then you
have your personal repository as always with Maven.
If you are offline, but have a class library on some media, e.g. a USB
stick, you can deploy that to your local repository.
Hope this helps.
/Per
On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 12:47 PM, Geeta Madhavi <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi...
>
> U can use Maven,Eclipse latest version for development..Server as Tomcat or
> any other you wish..but use Maven instead of ant. And for reference you can
> check the Wicket in Action book
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 8:43 PM, Dane Laverty <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> My boss has asked me to manage development for a Java project. I'm going to
>> be working with two other programmers and one designer.
>>
>> This is the first time that our organization has tried to formally
>> coordinate several programmers on a project together, and it is also the
>> first Java project we've done here (I'm the only programmer with extensive
>> Java experience). I chose to use Wicket for this project because it seemed
>> to be the most intuitive framework, and because I hope it will make it easy
>> for the designer and programmers to work together without stepping on each
>> others toes.
>>
>> At my previous job, we used CVS for managing code contribution and Ant for
>> deployment. Is that still a good solution, or should I be looking at other
>> tools? Also, how do you coordinate the designer's work with the
>> programmers'
>> work?
>>
>> My goal is to find a few tools that
>> - work well with Wicket
>> - make it easy for programmers to check code in and out
>> - manage project dependencies
>> - are easy to set up
>> - are easy to use
>> - are free
>>
>> I appreciate any and all suggestions. Thanks for your help!
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Regards.
> Geeta Madhavi. K
>
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Re: Tools for Managing a Wicket Project
Posted by Geeta Madhavi <ma...@gmail.com>.
Hi...
U can use Maven,Eclipse latest version for development..Server as Tomcat or
any other you wish..but use Maven instead of ant. And for reference you can
check the Wicket in Action book
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 8:43 PM, Dane Laverty <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
> My boss has asked me to manage development for a Java project. I'm going to
> be working with two other programmers and one designer.
>
> This is the first time that our organization has tried to formally
> coordinate several programmers on a project together, and it is also the
> first Java project we've done here (I'm the only programmer with extensive
> Java experience). I chose to use Wicket for this project because it seemed
> to be the most intuitive framework, and because I hope it will make it easy
> for the designer and programmers to work together without stepping on each
> others toes.
>
> At my previous job, we used CVS for managing code contribution and Ant for
> deployment. Is that still a good solution, or should I be looking at other
> tools? Also, how do you coordinate the designer's work with the
> programmers'
> work?
>
> My goal is to find a few tools that
> - work well with Wicket
> - make it easy for programmers to check code in and out
> - manage project dependencies
> - are easy to set up
> - are easy to use
> - are free
>
> I appreciate any and all suggestions. Thanks for your help!
>
--
Regards.
Geeta Madhavi. K
Re: Tools for Managing a Wicket Project
Posted by Brill Pappin <br...@pappin.ca>.
>
+1 Thats almost exactly our preferred setup.
>
> - svn (instead of cvs)
> - maven (check the quickstart project on the wicket page)
> - archiva (your own maven repository)
> - hudson (continous integration build system)
>
>
> Kind regards
> Florian Sperber
>
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Re: Tools for Managing a Wicket Project
Posted by Brill Pappin <br...@pappin.ca>.
Your unable to use a repo like Archiva?
You should be able to package up your customer components and maintain
versions by deploying to archiva... we do the same thing, and its a
life saver, particularly when you have legacy projects that use older
versions of a component.
Our archiva repo has become one of our backup targets.
- Brill Pappin
On 29-Apr-09, at 1:16 PM, Carlo Camerino wrote:
> [...]
> one thing that i'd like to have though is a way to track common custom
> components.
> We have developed a lot of common components but once the project
> begins to
> become larger, it's hard to keep track of them.
Re: Tools for Managing a Wicket Project
Posted by Carlo Camerino <cm...@gmail.com>.
try mercurial instead of subversion. (we're starting migration to mercurial)
We are on our way to migrate there.
Hudson is very easy to configure.
Try eclipse and maven 2 also.
one thing that i'd like to have though is a way to track common custom
components.
We have developed a lot of common components but once the project begins to
become larger, it's hard to keep track of them.
On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 1:06 AM, Per Lundholm <pe...@gmail.com>wrote:
> Hi
>
> Have you seen the Maven guide?
> http://www.sonatype.com/books/maven-book/reference/
>
> It presents Nexus instead of Archiva which we use at my current contract.
>
> We also use Hudson and it was really easy to setup. You can try it
> with a simple click on the webstart button here:
> http://wiki.hudson-ci.org/display/HUDSON/Meet+Hudson
>
> Good Luck!
>
> mvh
> Per
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 6:43 PM, Dane Laverty <da...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Thanks for the suggestions of Continuum, Hudson, and Archiva. I'm not
> > familiar with any of them, so that at least gives me some direction.
> Also,
> > is there a book or website you would recommend that explains some best
> > practices for Java project management?
> >
> > I would love to get a team training course in here. That's what we really
> > need, but recent budget cuts have forced the college to cut way back on
> its
> > training budget. As soon as the funding is back, I'm planning to give you
> > guys a call :)
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 8:39 AM, Jeremy Thomerson <
> jeremy@wickettraining.com
> >> wrote:
> >
> >> I'd definitely suggest SVN over CVS and Maven over Ant. Maven truly
> >> manages dependencies. Ant does not.
> >>
> >> I'd suggest Continuum rather than Hudson simply because it is quick
> >> and easy to set up and it is built to build Maven projects - so it
> >> will be easier for your inexperienced team to do so.
> >>
> >> And of course, a team training course is never a bad idea :)
> >>
> >> --
> >> Jeremy Thomerson
> >> http://www.wickettraining.com
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 10:19 AM, Florian Sperber <fl...@sperber.info>
> >> wrote:
> >> > Hi Dane,
> >> >
> >> > Dane Laverty schrieb:
> >> >>
> >> >> My goal is to find a few tools that
> >> >> - work well with Wicket
> >> >> - make it easy for programmers to check code in and out
> >> >> - manage project dependencies
> >> >> - are easy to set up
> >> >> - are easy to use
> >> >> - are free
> >> >>
> >> >> I appreciate any and all suggestions. Thanks for your help!
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > what about:
> >> >
> >> > - svn (instead of cvs)
> >> > - maven (check the quickstart project on the wicket page)
> >> > - archiva (your own maven repository)
> >> > - hudson (continous integration build system)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Kind regards
> >> > Florian Sperber
> >> >
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Re: Tools for Managing a Wicket Project
Posted by Per Lundholm <pe...@gmail.com>.
Hi
Have you seen the Maven guide?
http://www.sonatype.com/books/maven-book/reference/
It presents Nexus instead of Archiva which we use at my current contract.
We also use Hudson and it was really easy to setup. You can try it
with a simple click on the webstart button here:
http://wiki.hudson-ci.org/display/HUDSON/Meet+Hudson
Good Luck!
mvh
Per
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 6:43 PM, Dane Laverty <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks for the suggestions of Continuum, Hudson, and Archiva. I'm not
> familiar with any of them, so that at least gives me some direction. Also,
> is there a book or website you would recommend that explains some best
> practices for Java project management?
>
> I would love to get a team training course in here. That's what we really
> need, but recent budget cuts have forced the college to cut way back on its
> training budget. As soon as the funding is back, I'm planning to give you
> guys a call :)
>
> On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 8:39 AM, Jeremy Thomerson <jeremy@wickettraining.com
>> wrote:
>
>> I'd definitely suggest SVN over CVS and Maven over Ant. Maven truly
>> manages dependencies. Ant does not.
>>
>> I'd suggest Continuum rather than Hudson simply because it is quick
>> and easy to set up and it is built to build Maven projects - so it
>> will be easier for your inexperienced team to do so.
>>
>> And of course, a team training course is never a bad idea :)
>>
>> --
>> Jeremy Thomerson
>> http://www.wickettraining.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 10:19 AM, Florian Sperber <fl...@sperber.info>
>> wrote:
>> > Hi Dane,
>> >
>> > Dane Laverty schrieb:
>> >>
>> >> My goal is to find a few tools that
>> >> - work well with Wicket
>> >> - make it easy for programmers to check code in and out
>> >> - manage project dependencies
>> >> - are easy to set up
>> >> - are easy to use
>> >> - are free
>> >>
>> >> I appreciate any and all suggestions. Thanks for your help!
>> >>
>> >
>> > what about:
>> >
>> > - svn (instead of cvs)
>> > - maven (check the quickstart project on the wicket page)
>> > - archiva (your own maven repository)
>> > - hudson (continous integration build system)
>> >
>> >
>> > Kind regards
>> > Florian Sperber
>> >
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>> > For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@wicket.apache.org
>> >
>> >
>>
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Re: Tools for Managing a Wicket Project
Posted by Per Lundholm <pe...@gmail.com>.
+1 for that book but we are reaching beyond the scope of the question.
I would prefer that designers and programmers stepped on each others
toes all the time rather than working on separate branches. The former
is more agile.
/Per
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 10:21 PM, Brill Pappin <br...@pappin.ca> wrote:
> Heres another book for you.
> This is actually one of my favorites, particularly if you working with
> existing code.
>
> http://www.amazon.com/Working-Effectively-Legacy-Robert-Martin/dp/0131177052
>
>
>
>
> - Brill Pappin
>
>
>
>
>
> On 29-Apr-09, at 4:11 PM, Dane Laverty wrote:
>
>> Thanks again to everyone for all the feedback. I'm reading through Design
>> Patterns and Wicket in Action, but I've never heard of Effective Java. The
>> Amazon reviews for that book are also amazing. I've got it ordered now and
>> am excited to see what it will bring.
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 12:37 PM, Scott Swank <sc...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I agree with Jeremy, that tech books are probably far more important
>>> than project management books for a first Java project.
>>>
>>> Basics
>>> -Effective Java, Joshua Block
>>> -Wicket in Action, Dashorst & Hillenius
>>> -one more on jdbc or hibernate or ibatis -- your persistence api
>>>
>>> Design (language agnostic)
>>> -Design Patterns, gang of four
>>> -Domain Driven Design, Eric Evans
>>>
>>> Advanced (as needed)
>>> -Java Concurrency in Practice, Goetz
>>> -NIO from O'Reilly
>>> -whatever...
>>>
>>> Scott
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 12:19 PM, Jeremy Thomerson
>>> <je...@wickettraining.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I would HIGHLY recommend that each of you get a copy of Joshua Bloch's
>>>> Effective Java, now in it's second edition. It's not really project
>>>> management, but since your team as a whole is not mature with Java, it
>>>> will offer some good advice. Of course, make sure everyone is
>>>> familiar with Wicket in Action and has gone through the exercises -
>>>> that will give them a good foundation.
>>>>
>>>> As far as books on Java project management, I don't have any
>>>> recommendations. I've perused some but never been fascinated. Maybe
>>>> someone else will have a good recommendation.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Jeremy Thomerson
>>>> http://www.wickettraining.com
>>>
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Re: Tools for Managing a Wicket Project
Posted by Brill Pappin <br...@pappin.ca>.
Heres another book for you.
This is actually one of my favorites, particularly if you working with
existing code.
http://www.amazon.com/Working-Effectively-Legacy-Robert-Martin/dp/0131177052
- Brill Pappin
On 29-Apr-09, at 4:11 PM, Dane Laverty wrote:
> Thanks again to everyone for all the feedback. I'm reading through
> Design
> Patterns and Wicket in Action, but I've never heard of Effective
> Java. The
> Amazon reviews for that book are also amazing. I've got it ordered
> now and
> am excited to see what it will bring.
>
> On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 12:37 PM, Scott Swank
> <sc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I agree with Jeremy, that tech books are probably far more important
>> than project management books for a first Java project.
>>
>> Basics
>> -Effective Java, Joshua Block
>> -Wicket in Action, Dashorst & Hillenius
>> -one more on jdbc or hibernate or ibatis -- your persistence api
>>
>> Design (language agnostic)
>> -Design Patterns, gang of four
>> -Domain Driven Design, Eric Evans
>>
>> Advanced (as needed)
>> -Java Concurrency in Practice, Goetz
>> -NIO from O'Reilly
>> -whatever...
>>
>> Scott
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 12:19 PM, Jeremy Thomerson
>> <je...@wickettraining.com> wrote:
>>> I would HIGHLY recommend that each of you get a copy of Joshua
>>> Bloch's
>>> Effective Java, now in it's second edition. It's not really project
>>> management, but since your team as a whole is not mature with
>>> Java, it
>>> will offer some good advice. Of course, make sure everyone is
>>> familiar with Wicket in Action and has gone through the exercises -
>>> that will give them a good foundation.
>>>
>>> As far as books on Java project management, I don't have any
>>> recommendations. I've perused some but never been fascinated.
>>> Maybe
>>> someone else will have a good recommendation.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jeremy Thomerson
>>> http://www.wickettraining.com
>>
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Re: Tools for Managing a Wicket Project
Posted by Dane Laverty <da...@gmail.com>.
Thanks again to everyone for all the feedback. I'm reading through Design
Patterns and Wicket in Action, but I've never heard of Effective Java. The
Amazon reviews for that book are also amazing. I've got it ordered now and
am excited to see what it will bring.
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 12:37 PM, Scott Swank <sc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I agree with Jeremy, that tech books are probably far more important
> than project management books for a first Java project.
>
> Basics
> -Effective Java, Joshua Block
> -Wicket in Action, Dashorst & Hillenius
> -one more on jdbc or hibernate or ibatis -- your persistence api
>
> Design (language agnostic)
> -Design Patterns, gang of four
> -Domain Driven Design, Eric Evans
>
> Advanced (as needed)
> -Java Concurrency in Practice, Goetz
> -NIO from O'Reilly
> -whatever...
>
> Scott
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 12:19 PM, Jeremy Thomerson
> <je...@wickettraining.com> wrote:
> > I would HIGHLY recommend that each of you get a copy of Joshua Bloch's
> > Effective Java, now in it's second edition. It's not really project
> > management, but since your team as a whole is not mature with Java, it
> > will offer some good advice. Of course, make sure everyone is
> > familiar with Wicket in Action and has gone through the exercises -
> > that will give them a good foundation.
> >
> > As far as books on Java project management, I don't have any
> > recommendations. I've perused some but never been fascinated. Maybe
> > someone else will have a good recommendation.
> >
> > --
> > Jeremy Thomerson
> > http://www.wickettraining.com
>
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Re: Tools for Managing a Wicket Project
Posted by Scott Swank <sc...@gmail.com>.
I agree with Jeremy, that tech books are probably far more important
than project management books for a first Java project.
Basics
-Effective Java, Joshua Block
-Wicket in Action, Dashorst & Hillenius
-one more on jdbc or hibernate or ibatis -- your persistence api
Design (language agnostic)
-Design Patterns, gang of four
-Domain Driven Design, Eric Evans
Advanced (as needed)
-Java Concurrency in Practice, Goetz
-NIO from O'Reilly
-whatever...
Scott
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 12:19 PM, Jeremy Thomerson
<je...@wickettraining.com> wrote:
> I would HIGHLY recommend that each of you get a copy of Joshua Bloch's
> Effective Java, now in it's second edition. It's not really project
> management, but since your team as a whole is not mature with Java, it
> will offer some good advice. Of course, make sure everyone is
> familiar with Wicket in Action and has gone through the exercises -
> that will give them a good foundation.
>
> As far as books on Java project management, I don't have any
> recommendations. I've perused some but never been fascinated. Maybe
> someone else will have a good recommendation.
>
> --
> Jeremy Thomerson
> http://www.wickettraining.com
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Re: Tools for Managing a Wicket Project
Posted by Jeremy Thomerson <je...@wickettraining.com>.
I would HIGHLY recommend that each of you get a copy of Joshua Bloch's
Effective Java, now in it's second edition. It's not really project
management, but since your team as a whole is not mature with Java, it
will offer some good advice. Of course, make sure everyone is
familiar with Wicket in Action and has gone through the exercises -
that will give them a good foundation.
As far as books on Java project management, I don't have any
recommendations. I've perused some but never been fascinated. Maybe
someone else will have a good recommendation.
--
Jeremy Thomerson
http://www.wickettraining.com
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 11:43 AM, Dane Laverty <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks for the suggestions of Continuum, Hudson, and Archiva. I'm not
> familiar with any of them, so that at least gives me some direction. Also,
> is there a book or website you would recommend that explains some best
> practices for Java project management?
>
> I would love to get a team training course in here. That's what we really
> need, but recent budget cuts have forced the college to cut way back on its
> training budget. As soon as the funding is back, I'm planning to give you
> guys a call :)
>
> On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 8:39 AM, Jeremy Thomerson <jeremy@wickettraining.com
>> wrote:
>
>> I'd definitely suggest SVN over CVS and Maven over Ant. Maven truly
>> manages dependencies. Ant does not.
>>
>> I'd suggest Continuum rather than Hudson simply because it is quick
>> and easy to set up and it is built to build Maven projects - so it
>> will be easier for your inexperienced team to do so.
>>
>> And of course, a team training course is never a bad idea :)
>>
>> --
>> Jeremy Thomerson
>> http://www.wickettraining.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 10:19 AM, Florian Sperber <fl...@sperber.info>
>> wrote:
>> > Hi Dane,
>> >
>> > Dane Laverty schrieb:
>> >>
>> >> My goal is to find a few tools that
>> >> - work well with Wicket
>> >> - make it easy for programmers to check code in and out
>> >> - manage project dependencies
>> >> - are easy to set up
>> >> - are easy to use
>> >> - are free
>> >>
>> >> I appreciate any and all suggestions. Thanks for your help!
>> >>
>> >
>> > what about:
>> >
>> > - svn (instead of cvs)
>> > - maven (check the quickstart project on the wicket page)
>> > - archiva (your own maven repository)
>> > - hudson (continous integration build system)
>> >
>> >
>> > Kind regards
>> > Florian Sperber
>> >
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RE: Tools for Managing a Wicket Project
Posted by Stefan Droog <sd...@educator.eu>.
I can also recommend O'Reilly Java Power Tools book:
See http://oreilly.com/catalog/9780596527938/
Regards,
Stefan
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Van: Dane Laverty [danelaverty@gmail.com]
Verzonden: woensdag 29 april 2009 18:43
Aan: users@wicket.apache.org
Onderwerp: Re: Tools for Managing a Wicket Project
Thanks for the suggestions of Continuum, Hudson, and Archiva. I'm not
familiar with any of them, so that at least gives me some direction. Also,
is there a book or website you would recommend that explains some best
practices for Java project management?
I would love to get a team training course in here. That's what we really
need, but recent budget cuts have forced the college to cut way back on its
training budget. As soon as the funding is back, I'm planning to give you
guys a call :)
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 8:39 AM, Jeremy Thomerson <jeremy@wickettraining.com
> wrote:
> I'd definitely suggest SVN over CVS and Maven over Ant. Maven truly
> manages dependencies. Ant does not.
>
> I'd suggest Continuum rather than Hudson simply because it is quick
> and easy to set up and it is built to build Maven projects - so it
> will be easier for your inexperienced team to do so.
>
> And of course, a team training course is never a bad idea :)
>
> --
> Jeremy Thomerson
> http://www.wickettraining.com
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 10:19 AM, Florian Sperber <fl...@sperber.info>
> wrote:
> > Hi Dane,
> >
> > Dane Laverty schrieb:
> >>
> >> My goal is to find a few tools that
> >> - work well with Wicket
> >> - make it easy for programmers to check code in and out
> >> - manage project dependencies
> >> - are easy to set up
> >> - are easy to use
> >> - are free
> >>
> >> I appreciate any and all suggestions. Thanks for your help!
> >>
> >
> > what about:
> >
> > - svn (instead of cvs)
> > - maven (check the quickstart project on the wicket page)
> > - archiva (your own maven repository)
> > - hudson (continous integration build system)
> >
> >
> > Kind regards
> > Florian Sperber
> >
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Re: Tools for Managing a Wicket Project
Posted by Dane Laverty <da...@gmail.com>.
Thanks for the suggestions of Continuum, Hudson, and Archiva. I'm not
familiar with any of them, so that at least gives me some direction. Also,
is there a book or website you would recommend that explains some best
practices for Java project management?
I would love to get a team training course in here. That's what we really
need, but recent budget cuts have forced the college to cut way back on its
training budget. As soon as the funding is back, I'm planning to give you
guys a call :)
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 8:39 AM, Jeremy Thomerson <jeremy@wickettraining.com
> wrote:
> I'd definitely suggest SVN over CVS and Maven over Ant. Maven truly
> manages dependencies. Ant does not.
>
> I'd suggest Continuum rather than Hudson simply because it is quick
> and easy to set up and it is built to build Maven projects - so it
> will be easier for your inexperienced team to do so.
>
> And of course, a team training course is never a bad idea :)
>
> --
> Jeremy Thomerson
> http://www.wickettraining.com
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 10:19 AM, Florian Sperber <fl...@sperber.info>
> wrote:
> > Hi Dane,
> >
> > Dane Laverty schrieb:
> >>
> >> My goal is to find a few tools that
> >> - work well with Wicket
> >> - make it easy for programmers to check code in and out
> >> - manage project dependencies
> >> - are easy to set up
> >> - are easy to use
> >> - are free
> >>
> >> I appreciate any and all suggestions. Thanks for your help!
> >>
> >
> > what about:
> >
> > - svn (instead of cvs)
> > - maven (check the quickstart project on the wicket page)
> > - archiva (your own maven repository)
> > - hudson (continous integration build system)
> >
> >
> > Kind regards
> > Florian Sperber
> >
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Re: Tools for Managing a Wicket Project
Posted by Jeremy Thomerson <je...@wickettraining.com>.
I'd definitely suggest SVN over CVS and Maven over Ant. Maven truly
manages dependencies. Ant does not.
I'd suggest Continuum rather than Hudson simply because it is quick
and easy to set up and it is built to build Maven projects - so it
will be easier for your inexperienced team to do so.
And of course, a team training course is never a bad idea :)
--
Jeremy Thomerson
http://www.wickettraining.com
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 10:19 AM, Florian Sperber <fl...@sperber.info> wrote:
> Hi Dane,
>
> Dane Laverty schrieb:
>>
>> My goal is to find a few tools that
>> - work well with Wicket
>> - make it easy for programmers to check code in and out
>> - manage project dependencies
>> - are easy to set up
>> - are easy to use
>> - are free
>>
>> I appreciate any and all suggestions. Thanks for your help!
>>
>
> what about:
>
> - svn (instead of cvs)
> - maven (check the quickstart project on the wicket page)
> - archiva (your own maven repository)
> - hudson (continous integration build system)
>
>
> Kind regards
> Florian Sperber
>
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Re: Tools for Managing a Wicket Project
Posted by Florian Sperber <fl...@sperber.info>.
Hi Dane,
Dane Laverty schrieb:
> My goal is to find a few tools that
> - work well with Wicket
> - make it easy for programmers to check code in and out
> - manage project dependencies
> - are easy to set up
> - are easy to use
> - are free
>
> I appreciate any and all suggestions. Thanks for your help!
>
what about:
- svn (instead of cvs)
- maven (check the quickstart project on the wicket page)
- archiva (your own maven repository)
- hudson (continous integration build system)
Kind regards
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Re: Tools for Managing a Wicket Project
Posted by Carlo Camerino <cm...@gmail.com>.
ya first time i actualy looked at sonar.i guess it's different from sonarj.
I thought they were the same thing.
I see this in the spring website.
Will take a look at it..
Seems like a tool which will be useful for us.
On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 3:28 PM, Linda van der Pal <
lvdpal@heritageagenturen.nl> wrote:
> Sonar is a tool that measures code quality, based on a lot of other tools
> like PMD, CheckStyle, Cobertura, and others. I've just started using it and
> it's very good.
>
> You should be able to get Effective Java at all the better bookstores and
> otherwise online at places like Amazon.com.
>
> Regards,
> Linda
>
> Carlo Camerino wrote:
>
>> What does sonar do?
>> Where can I get "effective java"?
>>
>> That's one of our problems actually.
>> When we go on site in clients we have a hard time going to our centralized
>> tools.
>> I have been looking for an offline bugzilla or trac of some sort.
>> Similar to offline gmail.
>> I'm looking to also setup a distributed maven repository.
>>
>> Per our experience, all our tools become useless when there is no internet
>> connection available, and sadly, most of our clients don't provide on.
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 7:02 AM, Martijn Dashorst <
>> martijn.dashorst@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> Our current stack:
>>> - maven
>>> - Java 6
>>> - hibernate
>>> - spring
>>> - Wicket
>>> - svn
>>> - hudson
>>> - artifactory (though we might switch to another one)
>>> [ - sonar (icing on the cake) ]
>>>
>>> Wendy Smoak taught me an valuable lesson: use a company repository
>>> manager for maven, and a local one on your machine. This way you can
>>> run maven offline as well (after downloading the internet first).
>>>
>>> Martijn
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 5:13 PM, Dane Laverty <da...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> My boss has asked me to manage development for a Java project. I'm going
>>>>
>>>>
>>> to
>>>
>>>
>>>> be working with two other programmers and one designer.
>>>>
>>>> This is the first time that our organization has tried to formally
>>>> coordinate several programmers on a project together, and it is also the
>>>> first Java project we've done here (I'm the only programmer with
>>>>
>>>>
>>> extensive
>>>
>>>
>>>> Java experience). I chose to use Wicket for this project because it
>>>>
>>>>
>>> seemed
>>>
>>>
>>>> to be the most intuitive framework, and because I hope it will make it
>>>>
>>>>
>>> easy
>>>
>>>
>>>> for the designer and programmers to work together without stepping on
>>>>
>>>>
>>> each
>>>
>>>
>>>> others toes.
>>>>
>>>> At my previous job, we used CVS for managing code contribution and Ant
>>>>
>>>>
>>> for
>>>
>>>
>>>> deployment. Is that still a good solution, or should I be looking at
>>>>
>>>>
>>> other
>>>
>>>
>>>> tools? Also, how do you coordinate the designer's work with the
>>>>
>>>>
>>> programmers'
>>>
>>>
>>>> work?
>>>>
>>>> My goal is to find a few tools that
>>>> - work well with Wicket
>>>> - make it easy for programmers to check code in and out
>>>> - manage project dependencies
>>>> - are easy to set up
>>>> - are easy to use
>>>> - are free
>>>>
>>>> I appreciate any and all suggestions. Thanks for your help!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Become a Wicket expert, learn from the best: http://wicketinaction.com
>>> Apache Wicket 1.3.5 is released
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Re: Tools for Managing a Wicket Project
Posted by Linda van der Pal <lv...@heritageagenturen.nl>.
Sonar is a tool that measures code quality, based on a lot of other
tools like PMD, CheckStyle, Cobertura, and others. I've just started
using it and it's very good.
You should be able to get Effective Java at all the better bookstores
and otherwise online at places like Amazon.com.
Regards,
Linda
Carlo Camerino wrote:
> What does sonar do?
> Where can I get "effective java"?
>
> That's one of our problems actually.
> When we go on site in clients we have a hard time going to our centralized
> tools.
> I have been looking for an offline bugzilla or trac of some sort.
> Similar to offline gmail.
> I'm looking to also setup a distributed maven repository.
>
> Per our experience, all our tools become useless when there is no internet
> connection available, and sadly, most of our clients don't provide on.
>
> On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 7:02 AM, Martijn Dashorst <
> martijn.dashorst@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>> Our current stack:
>> - maven
>> - Java 6
>> - hibernate
>> - spring
>> - Wicket
>> - svn
>> - hudson
>> - artifactory (though we might switch to another one)
>> [ - sonar (icing on the cake) ]
>>
>> Wendy Smoak taught me an valuable lesson: use a company repository
>> manager for maven, and a local one on your machine. This way you can
>> run maven offline as well (after downloading the internet first).
>>
>> Martijn
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 5:13 PM, Dane Laverty <da...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> My boss has asked me to manage development for a Java project. I'm going
>>>
>> to
>>
>>> be working with two other programmers and one designer.
>>>
>>> This is the first time that our organization has tried to formally
>>> coordinate several programmers on a project together, and it is also the
>>> first Java project we've done here (I'm the only programmer with
>>>
>> extensive
>>
>>> Java experience). I chose to use Wicket for this project because it
>>>
>> seemed
>>
>>> to be the most intuitive framework, and because I hope it will make it
>>>
>> easy
>>
>>> for the designer and programmers to work together without stepping on
>>>
>> each
>>
>>> others toes.
>>>
>>> At my previous job, we used CVS for managing code contribution and Ant
>>>
>> for
>>
>>> deployment. Is that still a good solution, or should I be looking at
>>>
>> other
>>
>>> tools? Also, how do you coordinate the designer's work with the
>>>
>> programmers'
>>
>>> work?
>>>
>>> My goal is to find a few tools that
>>> - work well with Wicket
>>> - make it easy for programmers to check code in and out
>>> - manage project dependencies
>>> - are easy to set up
>>> - are easy to use
>>> - are free
>>>
>>> I appreciate any and all suggestions. Thanks for your help!
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Become a Wicket expert, learn from the best: http://wicketinaction.com
>> Apache Wicket 1.3.5 is released
>> Get it now: http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi/wicket/1.3.
>>
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Re: Tools for Managing a Wicket Project
Posted by Carlo Camerino <cm...@gmail.com>.
What does sonar do?
Where can I get "effective java"?
That's one of our problems actually.
When we go on site in clients we have a hard time going to our centralized
tools.
I have been looking for an offline bugzilla or trac of some sort.
Similar to offline gmail.
I'm looking to also setup a distributed maven repository.
Per our experience, all our tools become useless when there is no internet
connection available, and sadly, most of our clients don't provide on.
On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 7:02 AM, Martijn Dashorst <
martijn.dashorst@gmail.com> wrote:
> Our current stack:
> - maven
> - Java 6
> - hibernate
> - spring
> - Wicket
> - svn
> - hudson
> - artifactory (though we might switch to another one)
> [ - sonar (icing on the cake) ]
>
> Wendy Smoak taught me an valuable lesson: use a company repository
> manager for maven, and a local one on your machine. This way you can
> run maven offline as well (after downloading the internet first).
>
> Martijn
>
> On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 5:13 PM, Dane Laverty <da...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > My boss has asked me to manage development for a Java project. I'm going
> to
> > be working with two other programmers and one designer.
> >
> > This is the first time that our organization has tried to formally
> > coordinate several programmers on a project together, and it is also the
> > first Java project we've done here (I'm the only programmer with
> extensive
> > Java experience). I chose to use Wicket for this project because it
> seemed
> > to be the most intuitive framework, and because I hope it will make it
> easy
> > for the designer and programmers to work together without stepping on
> each
> > others toes.
> >
> > At my previous job, we used CVS for managing code contribution and Ant
> for
> > deployment. Is that still a good solution, or should I be looking at
> other
> > tools? Also, how do you coordinate the designer's work with the
> programmers'
> > work?
> >
> > My goal is to find a few tools that
> > - work well with Wicket
> > - make it easy for programmers to check code in and out
> > - manage project dependencies
> > - are easy to set up
> > - are easy to use
> > - are free
> >
> > I appreciate any and all suggestions. Thanks for your help!
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Become a Wicket expert, learn from the best: http://wicketinaction.com
> Apache Wicket 1.3.5 is released
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Re: Tools for Managing a Wicket Project
Posted by Nick Heudecker <nh...@gmail.com>.
As long as you clear out things like nightlies and snapshots it's not too
bad. Otherwise, things can get massive.
On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 11:47 AM, Andrew Lombardi
<an...@mysticcoders.com>wrote:
> Martijn,
>
> a local version of artifactory? doesn't that get ... large?
>
> or are you just talking about ~/.m2/repository?
--
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Professional Wicket Training & Consulting
http://www.systemmobile.com
Re: Tools for Managing a Wicket Project
Posted by Andrew Lombardi <an...@mysticcoders.com>.
Martijn,
a local version of artifactory? doesn't that get ... large?
or are you just talking about ~/.m2/repository?
On Apr 29, 2009, at 4:02 PM, Martijn Dashorst wrote:
> Our current stack:
> - maven
> - Java 6
> - hibernate
> - spring
> - Wicket
> - svn
> - hudson
> - artifactory (though we might switch to another one)
> [ - sonar (icing on the cake) ]
>
> Wendy Smoak taught me an valuable lesson: use a company repository
> manager for maven, and a local one on your machine. This way you can
> run maven offline as well (after downloading the internet first).
>
> Martijn
>
> On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 5:13 PM, Dane Laverty
> <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> My boss has asked me to manage development for a Java project. I'm
>> going to
>> be working with two other programmers and one designer.
>>
>> This is the first time that our organization has tried to formally
>> coordinate several programmers on a project together, and it is
>> also the
>> first Java project we've done here (I'm the only programmer with
>> extensive
>> Java experience). I chose to use Wicket for this project because it
>> seemed
>> to be the most intuitive framework, and because I hope it will make
>> it easy
>> for the designer and programmers to work together without stepping
>> on each
>> others toes.
>>
>> At my previous job, we used CVS for managing code contribution and
>> Ant for
>> deployment. Is that still a good solution, or should I be looking
>> at other
>> tools? Also, how do you coordinate the designer's work with the
>> programmers'
>> work?
>>
>> My goal is to find a few tools that
>> - work well with Wicket
>> - make it easy for programmers to check code in and out
>> - manage project dependencies
>> - are easy to set up
>> - are easy to use
>> - are free
>>
>> I appreciate any and all suggestions. Thanks for your help!
>>
>
>
>
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Re: Tools for Managing a Wicket Project
Posted by Martijn Dashorst <ma...@gmail.com>.
Our current stack:
- maven
- Java 6
- hibernate
- spring
- Wicket
- svn
- hudson
- artifactory (though we might switch to another one)
[ - sonar (icing on the cake) ]
Wendy Smoak taught me an valuable lesson: use a company repository
manager for maven, and a local one on your machine. This way you can
run maven offline as well (after downloading the internet first).
Martijn
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 5:13 PM, Dane Laverty <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
> My boss has asked me to manage development for a Java project. I'm going to
> be working with two other programmers and one designer.
>
> This is the first time that our organization has tried to formally
> coordinate several programmers on a project together, and it is also the
> first Java project we've done here (I'm the only programmer with extensive
> Java experience). I chose to use Wicket for this project because it seemed
> to be the most intuitive framework, and because I hope it will make it easy
> for the designer and programmers to work together without stepping on each
> others toes.
>
> At my previous job, we used CVS for managing code contribution and Ant for
> deployment. Is that still a good solution, or should I be looking at other
> tools? Also, how do you coordinate the designer's work with the programmers'
> work?
>
> My goal is to find a few tools that
> - work well with Wicket
> - make it easy for programmers to check code in and out
> - manage project dependencies
> - are easy to set up
> - are easy to use
> - are free
>
> I appreciate any and all suggestions. Thanks for your help!
>
--
Become a Wicket expert, learn from the best: http://wicketinaction.com
Apache Wicket 1.3.5 is released
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Re: Tools for Managing a Wicket Project
Posted by Steve Swinsburg <s....@lancaster.ac.uk>.
You can get Eclipse to auto refresh if you modify files externally.
Check preferences.
cheers,
Steve
On 19/05/2009, at 1:15 AM, John Armstrong wrote:
> I always have to do a 'Refresh' when changing the HTML. Its quite
> painful..
>
> I tend to author the bulk of my html in an external editor that is
> more suitable to the purpose and fast ( the eclipse validators are
> painfully slow, particularly in Javascript intensive pages). Then I
> tweak it in Eclipse and hit F5. A Lot.
>
> John-
>
> On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 5:03 PM, pete swulius <ps...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> It appears that using external html editors causes sync issues.
>> Apparently
>> eclipse doesn't monitor changes to the file system, except to warn
>> you that
>> it's out of sync. I would love the know the truth of it as I could
>> very
>> well be missing something obvious. In fact, I would bet that I am,
>> considering that eclispe is so cool.
>>
>> I am currently using the Amateras plugin:
>> http://amateras.sourceforge.jp/cgi-bin/fswiki_en/wiki.cgi?page=EclipseHTMLEditor
>> .
>> I have no problems with it, but I use it only for the syntax
>> coloring
>> and
>> the occasional content assist.
>>
>> --pete
>>
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Re: Tools for Managing a Wicket Project
Posted by pete swulius <ps...@gmail.com>.
While we are on the topic, does anyone know if there's a super-secret
version of wicket-bench that plays well with the Eclipse 3.3 debugger? If
not, how much effort would it take to get it up to date? I would be glad to
contribute.
Or, alternatively, is there another option out there for minimizing the
hunt-n-clickathon?
--pete
Re: Tools for Managing a Wicket Project
Posted by Vladimir K <ko...@gmail.com>.
Innate markup formatting in WTP is awful. It splits all tags between lines.
I searched the web but didn't find information how to configure WTP. I
returned back to myeclipse.
How could WTP fans be ok with default formatting?
Eduardo Nunes wrote:
>
> it's very strange, because if I hit ctrl+shift+f in some html code
> with WTP, the source code will be completely unwell formatted. I will
> try amateras plugin, thank you
>
> On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 9:15 PM, John Armstrong <si...@siberian.org>
> wrote:
>> I always have to do a 'Refresh' when changing the HTML. Its quite
>> painful..
>>
>> I tend to author the bulk of my html in an external editor that is
>> more suitable to the purpose and fast ( the eclipse validators are
>> painfully slow, particularly in Javascript intensive pages). Then I
>> tweak it in Eclipse and hit F5. A Lot.
>>
>> John-
>>
>> On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 5:03 PM, pete swulius <ps...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> It appears that using external html editors causes sync issues.
>>> Apparently
>>> eclipse doesn't monitor changes to the file system, except to warn you
>>> that
>>> it's out of sync. I would love the know the truth of it as I could very
>>> well be missing something obvious. In fact, I would bet that I am,
>>> considering that eclispe is so cool.
>>>
>>> I am currently using the Amateras plugin:
>>> http://amateras.sourceforge.jp/cgi-bin/fswiki_en/wiki.cgi?page=EclipseHTMLEditor.
>>> I have no problems with it, but I use it only for the syntax coloring
>>> and
>>> the occasional content assist.
>>>
>>> --pete
>>>
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Re: Tools for Managing a Wicket Project
Posted by Eduardo Nunes <es...@gmail.com>.
it's very strange, because if I hit ctrl+shift+f in some html code
with WTP, the source code will be completely unwell formatted. I will
try amateras plugin, thank you
On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 9:15 PM, John Armstrong <si...@siberian.org> wrote:
> I always have to do a 'Refresh' when changing the HTML. Its quite painful..
>
> I tend to author the bulk of my html in an external editor that is
> more suitable to the purpose and fast ( the eclipse validators are
> painfully slow, particularly in Javascript intensive pages). Then I
> tweak it in Eclipse and hit F5. A Lot.
>
> John-
>
> On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 5:03 PM, pete swulius <ps...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> It appears that using external html editors causes sync issues. Apparently
>> eclipse doesn't monitor changes to the file system, except to warn you that
>> it's out of sync. I would love the know the truth of it as I could very
>> well be missing something obvious. In fact, I would bet that I am,
>> considering that eclispe is so cool.
>>
>> I am currently using the Amateras plugin:
>> http://amateras.sourceforge.jp/cgi-bin/fswiki_en/wiki.cgi?page=EclipseHTMLEditor.
>> I have no problems with it, but I use it only for the syntax coloring
>> and
>> the occasional content assist.
>>
>> --pete
>>
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Re: Tools for Managing a Wicket Project
Posted by John Armstrong <si...@siberian.org>.
I always have to do a 'Refresh' when changing the HTML. Its quite painful..
I tend to author the bulk of my html in an external editor that is
more suitable to the purpose and fast ( the eclipse validators are
painfully slow, particularly in Javascript intensive pages). Then I
tweak it in Eclipse and hit F5. A Lot.
John-
On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 5:03 PM, pete swulius <ps...@gmail.com> wrote:
> It appears that using external html editors causes sync issues. Apparently
> eclipse doesn't monitor changes to the file system, except to warn you that
> it's out of sync. I would love the know the truth of it as I could very
> well be missing something obvious. In fact, I would bet that I am,
> considering that eclispe is so cool.
>
> I am currently using the Amateras plugin:
> http://amateras.sourceforge.jp/cgi-bin/fswiki_en/wiki.cgi?page=EclipseHTMLEditor.
> I have no problems with it, but I use it only for the syntax coloring
> and
> the occasional content assist.
>
> --pete
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Re: Tools for Managing a Wicket Project
Posted by pete swulius <ps...@gmail.com>.
It appears that using external html editors causes sync issues. Apparently
eclipse doesn't monitor changes to the file system, except to warn you that
it's out of sync. I would love the know the truth of it as I could very
well be missing something obvious. In fact, I would bet that I am,
considering that eclispe is so cool.
I am currently using the Amateras plugin:
http://amateras.sourceforge.jp/cgi-bin/fswiki_en/wiki.cgi?page=EclipseHTMLEditor.
I have no problems with it, but I use it only for the syntax coloring
and
the occasional content assist.
--pete
Re: Tools for Managing a Wicket Project
Posted by John Armstrong <si...@siberian.org>.
I use the HTML formatter without problems. What issue are you having?
I use MyEclipse, it may be different?
J
On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 4:47 PM, Eduardo Nunes <es...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I have just one problem with eclipse, I can't use the HTML formatter,
> that's very sucks. I tried tidy but it didn't work too. What do you
> use guys to format html code?
>
> On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 2:06 PM, Dane Laverty <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I just wanted to thank Jeremy, Scott, and Linda for recommending Effective
>> Java. I read through the book this week. It's wonderful -- accessible and
>> useful. Now I'm in the process of refactoring my project to start applying
>> the concepts.
>>
>> On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 8:53 AM, Carlo Camerino <cm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> we used to be bugzilla, mediawiki, continuum statck.we moved to Trac. It
>>> was
>>> simply amazing with all those plugins.
>>>
>>> Code Review WIth Trac Is Good.
>>> Review Board is also good software but it doesn't suit our programming
>>> needs.
>>>
>>> On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 11:38 PM, Matt Welch <ma...@welchkin.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> >
>>> > Tools that our team is using (after some trial and error):
>>> >
>>> > IDE - Eclipse/IDEA
>>> > Source Control - SVN
>>> > Build - Maven
>>> > Local Network Maven Repo - Nexus (after a year trying different ones)
>>> > Build Server - TeamCity, which absolutely rocks (We actually purchased
>>> and
>>> > used Bamboo for 9 months. I can't believe it comes from the same company
>>> as
>>> > JIRA. Bamboo was terrible.)
>>> > Story Mgmt/Defects - Rally (hosted commercial app for agile projects; not
>>> > bad, but not fantastic either)
>>> > Code Review - Code Collaborator (again not bad and I'd rather have it
>>> than
>>> > nothing at all, but could be better)
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Our QA team has used various testing tools from expensive commercial
>>> tools
>>> > like Mercury (now HP) Quality Center to Selenium. They use Rally for
>>> defect
>>> > management.
>>> >
>>> > My highest recommendations are for TeamCity, Nexus, and SVN.
>>> >
>>> > -Matt
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > View this message in context:
>>> >
>>> http://www.nabble.com/Tools-for-Managing-a-Wicket-Project-tp23299396p23334970.html
>>> > Sent from the Wicket - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>> >
>>>
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Re: Tools for Managing a Wicket Project
Posted by Vladimir K <ko...@gmail.com>.
I installed it on MyEclipse I didn't find how to format the text. Does it
capable to format text better than WTP does?
Linkan wrote:
>
> We use Aptana plugin for eclipse as html editor. If you dont install the
> full suit its free.
>
> //Swanthe
>
> Eduardo Nunes wrote:
>> I have just one problem with eclipse, I can't use the HTML formatter,
>> that's very sucks. I tried tidy but it didn't work too. What do you
>> use guys to format html code?
>>
>> On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 2:06 PM, Dane Laverty <da...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I just wanted to thank Jeremy, Scott, and Linda for recommending
>>> Effective
>>> Java. I read through the book this week. It's wonderful -- accessible
>>> and
>>> useful. Now I'm in the process of refactoring my project to start
>>> applying
>>> the concepts.
>>>
>>> On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 8:53 AM, Carlo Camerino <cm...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> we used to be bugzilla, mediawiki, continuum statck.we moved to Trac.
>>>> It
>>>> was
>>>> simply amazing with all those plugins.
>>>>
>>>> Code Review WIth Trac Is Good.
>>>> Review Board is also good software but it doesn't suit our programming
>>>> needs.
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 11:38 PM, Matt Welch <ma...@welchkin.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Tools that our team is using (after some trial and error):
>>>>>
>>>>> IDE - Eclipse/IDEA
>>>>> Source Control - SVN
>>>>> Build - Maven
>>>>> Local Network Maven Repo - Nexus (after a year trying different ones)
>>>>> Build Server - TeamCity, which absolutely rocks (We actually
>>>>> purchased
>>>>>
>>>> and
>>>>
>>>>> used Bamboo for 9 months. I can't believe it comes from the same
>>>>> company
>>>>>
>>>> as
>>>>
>>>>> JIRA. Bamboo was terrible.)
>>>>> Story Mgmt/Defects - Rally (hosted commercial app for agile projects;
>>>>> not
>>>>> bad, but not fantastic either)
>>>>> Code Review - Code Collaborator (again not bad and I'd rather have it
>>>>>
>>>> than
>>>>
>>>>> nothing at all, but could be better)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Our QA team has used various testing tools from expensive commercial
>>>>>
>>>> tools
>>>>
>>>>> like Mercury (now HP) Quality Center to Selenium. They use Rally for
>>>>>
>>>> defect
>>>>
>>>>> management.
>>>>>
>>>>> My highest recommendations are for TeamCity, Nexus, and SVN.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Matt
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> View this message in context:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> http://www.nabble.com/Tools-for-Managing-a-Wicket-Project-tp23299396p23334970.html
>>>>
>>>>> Sent from the Wicket - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: Tools for Managing a Wicket Project
Posted by Swanthe Lindgren <sw...@megasol.se>.
We use Aptana plugin for eclipse as html editor. If you dont install the
full suit its free.
//Swanthe
Eduardo Nunes wrote:
> I have just one problem with eclipse, I can't use the HTML formatter,
> that's very sucks. I tried tidy but it didn't work too. What do you
> use guys to format html code?
>
> On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 2:06 PM, Dane Laverty <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I just wanted to thank Jeremy, Scott, and Linda for recommending Effective
>> Java. I read through the book this week. It's wonderful -- accessible and
>> useful. Now I'm in the process of refactoring my project to start applying
>> the concepts.
>>
>> On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 8:53 AM, Carlo Camerino <cm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> we used to be bugzilla, mediawiki, continuum statck.we moved to Trac. It
>>> was
>>> simply amazing with all those plugins.
>>>
>>> Code Review WIth Trac Is Good.
>>> Review Board is also good software but it doesn't suit our programming
>>> needs.
>>>
>>> On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 11:38 PM, Matt Welch <ma...@welchkin.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Tools that our team is using (after some trial and error):
>>>>
>>>> IDE - Eclipse/IDEA
>>>> Source Control - SVN
>>>> Build - Maven
>>>> Local Network Maven Repo - Nexus (after a year trying different ones)
>>>> Build Server - TeamCity, which absolutely rocks (We actually purchased
>>>>
>>> and
>>>
>>>> used Bamboo for 9 months. I can't believe it comes from the same company
>>>>
>>> as
>>>
>>>> JIRA. Bamboo was terrible.)
>>>> Story Mgmt/Defects - Rally (hosted commercial app for agile projects; not
>>>> bad, but not fantastic either)
>>>> Code Review - Code Collaborator (again not bad and I'd rather have it
>>>>
>>> than
>>>
>>>> nothing at all, but could be better)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Our QA team has used various testing tools from expensive commercial
>>>>
>>> tools
>>>
>>>> like Mercury (now HP) Quality Center to Selenium. They use Rally for
>>>>
>>> defect
>>>
>>>> management.
>>>>
>>>> My highest recommendations are for TeamCity, Nexus, and SVN.
>>>>
>>>> -Matt
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> View this message in context:
>>>>
>>>>
>>> http://www.nabble.com/Tools-for-Managing-a-Wicket-Project-tp23299396p23334970.html
>>>
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>>>>
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Re: Tools for Managing a Wicket Project
Posted by Eduardo Nunes <es...@gmail.com>.
I have just one problem with eclipse, I can't use the HTML formatter,
that's very sucks. I tried tidy but it didn't work too. What do you
use guys to format html code?
On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 2:06 PM, Dane Laverty <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I just wanted to thank Jeremy, Scott, and Linda for recommending Effective
> Java. I read through the book this week. It's wonderful -- accessible and
> useful. Now I'm in the process of refactoring my project to start applying
> the concepts.
>
> On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 8:53 AM, Carlo Camerino <cm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> we used to be bugzilla, mediawiki, continuum statck.we moved to Trac. It
>> was
>> simply amazing with all those plugins.
>>
>> Code Review WIth Trac Is Good.
>> Review Board is also good software but it doesn't suit our programming
>> needs.
>>
>> On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 11:38 PM, Matt Welch <ma...@welchkin.net> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > Tools that our team is using (after some trial and error):
>> >
>> > IDE - Eclipse/IDEA
>> > Source Control - SVN
>> > Build - Maven
>> > Local Network Maven Repo - Nexus (after a year trying different ones)
>> > Build Server - TeamCity, which absolutely rocks (We actually purchased
>> and
>> > used Bamboo for 9 months. I can't believe it comes from the same company
>> as
>> > JIRA. Bamboo was terrible.)
>> > Story Mgmt/Defects - Rally (hosted commercial app for agile projects; not
>> > bad, but not fantastic either)
>> > Code Review - Code Collaborator (again not bad and I'd rather have it
>> than
>> > nothing at all, but could be better)
>> >
>> >
>> > Our QA team has used various testing tools from expensive commercial
>> tools
>> > like Mercury (now HP) Quality Center to Selenium. They use Rally for
>> defect
>> > management.
>> >
>> > My highest recommendations are for TeamCity, Nexus, and SVN.
>> >
>> > -Matt
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > View this message in context:
>> >
>> http://www.nabble.com/Tools-for-Managing-a-Wicket-Project-tp23299396p23334970.html
>> > Sent from the Wicket - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>> >
>>
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Re: Tools for Managing a Wicket Project
Posted by Dane Laverty <da...@gmail.com>.
I just wanted to thank Jeremy, Scott, and Linda for recommending Effective
Java. I read through the book this week. It's wonderful -- accessible and
useful. Now I'm in the process of refactoring my project to start applying
the concepts.
On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 8:53 AM, Carlo Camerino <cm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> we used to be bugzilla, mediawiki, continuum statck.we moved to Trac. It
> was
> simply amazing with all those plugins.
>
> Code Review WIth Trac Is Good.
> Review Board is also good software but it doesn't suit our programming
> needs.
>
> On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 11:38 PM, Matt Welch <ma...@welchkin.net> wrote:
>
> >
> > Tools that our team is using (after some trial and error):
> >
> > IDE - Eclipse/IDEA
> > Source Control - SVN
> > Build - Maven
> > Local Network Maven Repo - Nexus (after a year trying different ones)
> > Build Server - TeamCity, which absolutely rocks (We actually purchased
> and
> > used Bamboo for 9 months. I can't believe it comes from the same company
> as
> > JIRA. Bamboo was terrible.)
> > Story Mgmt/Defects - Rally (hosted commercial app for agile projects; not
> > bad, but not fantastic either)
> > Code Review - Code Collaborator (again not bad and I'd rather have it
> than
> > nothing at all, but could be better)
> >
> >
> > Our QA team has used various testing tools from expensive commercial
> tools
> > like Mercury (now HP) Quality Center to Selenium. They use Rally for
> defect
> > management.
> >
> > My highest recommendations are for TeamCity, Nexus, and SVN.
> >
> > -Matt
> >
> >
> > --
> > View this message in context:
> >
> http://www.nabble.com/Tools-for-Managing-a-Wicket-Project-tp23299396p23334970.html
> > Sent from the Wicket - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
> >
>
Re: Tools for Managing a Wicket Project
Posted by Carlo Camerino <cm...@gmail.com>.
we used to be bugzilla, mediawiki, continuum statck.we moved to Trac. It was
simply amazing with all those plugins.
Code Review WIth Trac Is Good.
Review Board is also good software but it doesn't suit our programming
needs.
On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 11:38 PM, Matt Welch <ma...@welchkin.net> wrote:
>
> Tools that our team is using (after some trial and error):
>
> IDE - Eclipse/IDEA
> Source Control - SVN
> Build - Maven
> Local Network Maven Repo - Nexus (after a year trying different ones)
> Build Server - TeamCity, which absolutely rocks (We actually purchased and
> used Bamboo for 9 months. I can't believe it comes from the same company as
> JIRA. Bamboo was terrible.)
> Story Mgmt/Defects - Rally (hosted commercial app for agile projects; not
> bad, but not fantastic either)
> Code Review - Code Collaborator (again not bad and I'd rather have it than
> nothing at all, but could be better)
>
>
> Our QA team has used various testing tools from expensive commercial tools
> like Mercury (now HP) Quality Center to Selenium. They use Rally for defect
> management.
>
> My highest recommendations are for TeamCity, Nexus, and SVN.
>
> -Matt
>
>
> --
> View this message in context:
> http://www.nabble.com/Tools-for-Managing-a-Wicket-Project-tp23299396p23334970.html
> Sent from the Wicket - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>
Re: Tools for Managing a Wicket Project
Posted by Matt Welch <ma...@welchkin.net>.
Tools that our team is using (after some trial and error):
IDE - Eclipse/IDEA
Source Control - SVN
Build - Maven
Local Network Maven Repo - Nexus (after a year trying different ones)
Build Server - TeamCity, which absolutely rocks (We actually purchased and
used Bamboo for 9 months. I can't believe it comes from the same company as
JIRA. Bamboo was terrible.)
Story Mgmt/Defects - Rally (hosted commercial app for agile projects; not
bad, but not fantastic either)
Code Review - Code Collaborator (again not bad and I'd rather have it than
nothing at all, but could be better)
Our QA team has used various testing tools from expensive commercial tools
like Mercury (now HP) Quality Center to Selenium. They use Rally for defect
management.
My highest recommendations are for TeamCity, Nexus, and SVN.
-Matt
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