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Posted to legal-discuss@apache.org by Filippo Diotalevi <fi...@gmail.com> on 2009/10/13 14:44:09 UTC

Using princexml.com converter tool in ASF projects (and publishing the artifacts)

Hi,
  following the example (and re-using most part of the code) of Apache
Camel I've prepared a module to automatically convert Apache Felix
Karaf wiki pages into a PDF manual.

The code uses Apache Camel "maven-html-to-pdf" subproject, that in
turns uses a closed source xml->pdf converter available at
princexml.com. The license of this tool is available at [1] and copied
at the end of the email (after the signature).

A Personal license of the tools is available for free. The website
reports the following statements about this license

"We offer a free Personal license of Prince for interactive use on a
single computer. [...] However, for other uses you will need to
purchase one of the other licenses we offer. If you wish to run Prince
on a server, you need to purchase a Server license.
[...]
If this is a Personal license, PDF documents generated by the Software
include a message that identifies the Software and the license type.
Licensee shall not change or remove this message."

My questions:
1) Is it (legally) acceptable to install princexml in our build
machine, so we can generate the PDF manual as part of the build
process?
2) Is it acceptable to upload the generated PDF in our Maven
repository and consider it part of Apache Felix Karaf release?

[1] http://www.princexml.com/license/

Thanks for your suggestions,
-- 
Filippo Diotalevi


---princexml user license-------

End User License Agreement

This license agreement (the "Agreement") is entered into between you,
as a private person or a company (the "Licensee") and YesLogic Pty
Ltd, an Australian corporation, having its registered address at 7 /
39 Bouverie Street, Carlton, VIC 3053, Australia ("YesLogic"). By
installing, copying or otherwise using all or any portion of the
Prince formatter (the "Software") the Licensee agrees to be bound by
the terms of the Agreement.

1. LICENSE

Subject to the terms of this Agreement, YesLogic Ltd hereby grants to
Licensee a non-exclusive, non-transferable, non-sublicensable and
limited license only to install and use one copy of the Software on up
to the number of computers or servers as authorized in this Agreement.

If this is a Personal license or a Professional license, Licensee may
download, install and use the Software on a single computer for
Interactive use by a single user. Also, a Personal or Professional
license may be used for evaluation purposes on a server.

If this is a Server license, Licensee may download, install and use
the Software on a server that is accessible to any number of end
users. Additionally, Licensee may download, install and use the
Software on another server which is only used for testing and
development purposes.

If this is an Academic Server license, Licensee may download, install
and use the Software for Academic purposes on a server that is
accessible to any number of end users. Additionally, Licensee may
download, install and use the Software on another server which is only
used for testing and development purposes.

If this is an OEM license, Licensee may download, install and use the
Software according to a separate agreement.

2. DEFINITIONS

"Software" means: a) the Prince formatter included third party
software files and other information and b) upgrades, updates and
additions to such provided to you by YesLogic Ltd, to the extent not
provided under a separate agreement.

"Academic purposes" means the production of dissertations, papers,
lecture notes, hand-outs and similar documents or publications of
academic character for distribution on the Web, at lectures, or
through university bookstores or similar academic channels that are
not of a strictly commercial character. A university press run on
commercial terms is considered to be strictly commercial.

"Interactive use by a single user" means that all processing performed
by the Software is initiated by a local human user. The Software may
not be part of a web application or other server software.

3. LIMITATIONS AND RESTRICTIONS

The following shall apply in addition to the limitations and
restrictions set forth elsewhere in this Agreement:

Licensee shall not modify, adapt, translate or create derivative works
based upon the Software. Licensee shall not reverse engineer,
decompile, disassemble or otherwise attempt to discover the source
code of the Software.

Licensee shall not allow third parties to use the Software for
commercial service offerings to its own end users. Application service
providers (ASPs), integrators and value-added resellers (VARs) of all
kinds must enter into a separate VAR licensing agreement for such
purposes.

Licensee shall not reproduce, distribute, resell, rent, lease or
disclose the Software in any manner to a third party.

Licensee shall not transfer any of its rights under this Agreement
without the express written consent of YesLogic.

If this is a Personal license, PDF documents generated by the Software
include a message that identifies the Software and the license type.
Licensee shall not change or remove this message.

4. SUPPORT AND MAINTENANCE

YesLogic will provide the following support and maintenance services
(the "Services") free of charge for a period of 12 months following
the date of this Agreement:

a. E-mail support: YesLogic will attempt to respond to technical
questions made by the Licensee by email within a reasonable period of
time.

b. Upgrades: YesLogic will attempt to distribute upgrades to the
Software on a regular basis. Installation and use of such upgrades
will be governed by the terms of this Agreement.

Following the initial 12 month period, the same Services will be
available to Licensee against payment of a separate support and
maintenance fee.

This Clause 4 does not apply if this is a Personal license.

5. INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY RIGHTS

YesLogic and its suppliers are the owner of all intellectual property
rights relating to the Software and the Services. These rights are
protected by intellectual property legislation in Australia and other
jurisdictions and by international treaty provisions. YesLogic and its
suppliers retains all rights in the Software and the Services that are
not expressly granted to the Licensee through this Agreement.

Licensee is not allowed to remove, alter or destroy any proprietary,
trademark or copyright markings or notices placed upon or contained
with the Software.

6. PRIVACY

The Licensee grants YesLogic the right to store contact details and
other related information in order for YesLogic to contact the
Licensee occasionally regarding the Software. YesLogic will not use
contact details and other related information for any other purpose.

7. TERM AND TERMINATION

The Agreement and the licensing rights provide to the Licensee shall
continue for an indefinite term. Without prejudice to any other
rights, YesLogic may terminate the Agreement if the Licensee fails to
comply with the terms and conditions of this Agreement.

8. NO WARRANTY

TO THE MAXIMUM EXTENT PERMITTED BY LAW, YESLOGIC DISCLAIMS ANY
WARRANTY FOR THE SOFTWARE AND THE SERVICES. THE SOFTWARE, THE SERVICES
AND ANY RELATED DOCUMENTATION IS PROVIDED ON AN "AS IS" BASIS WITHOUT
WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, WHETHER EXPRESS OR IMPLIED, INCLUDING, BUT NOT
LIMITED TO, IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY, FITNESS FOR A
PARTICULAR PURPOSE, OR NON-INFRINGEMENT WITH REGARD TO THE SOFTWARE OR
THE SERVICES.

9. CUSTOMER REMEDIES

The entire liability for YesLogic, and the exclusive remedy for the
Licensee, under this Agreement shall be, at YesLogic's option, to
either (a) return the price paid for the Software, or (b) replace the
Software.

TO THE MAXIMUM EXTENT PERMITTED BY LAW, IN NO EVENT SHALL YESLOGIC OR
ITS SUPPLIERS BE LIABLE FOR ANY SPECIAL, INCIDENTAL, INDIRECT OR
CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES WHATSOEVER (INCLUDING, WITHOUT LIMITATION,
DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF BUSINESS PROFITS, BUSINESS INTERRUPTION, LOSS OF
BUSINESS INFORMATION, PERSONAL INJURY, LOSS OF PRIVACY OR ANY OTHER
PECUNIARY LOSS) ARISING OUT OF THE USE OF OR INABILITY TO USE THE
SOFTWARE OR THE SERVICES, EVEN IF ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH
DAMAGES.

10. GOVERNING LAW AND ARBITRATION

This Agreement shall be governed by and construed in accordance with
Norwegian law. Any dispute arising under or in connection with this
contract shall be referred to arbitration pursuant to the Norwegian
2004 Arbitration Act. Each Party shall appoint one arbitrator and the
two arbitrators shall appoint the third arbitrator who shall be the
chairman of the arbitration tribunal. The chairman shall be a
Norwegian legal professional. If one Party fails to appoint an
arbitrator within one month from being requested to do so or if the
two arbitrators can not within one month from the last appointment
agree on who shall be appointed chairman, the Chief Justice of Oslo
District Court shall be the appointer. The venue of the arbitral
proceedings shall be in Oslo, and the proceedings shall be conducted
in the English language. The arbitration is deemed to be commenced
when request for arbitration is being sent from the Party requesting
arbitration. The Parties agree to conclude a separate agreement on
confidentiality of both the arbitral proceedings and the award
immediately after arbitration has been requested.

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Re: Using princexml.com converter tool in ASF projects (and publishing the artifacts)

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Re: Using princexml.com converter tool in ASF projects (and publishing the artifacts)

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Re: Using princexml.com converter tool in ASF projects (and publishing the artifacts)

Posted by Henri Yandell <ba...@apache.org>.

On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 5:44 AM, Filippo Diotalevi
<fi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>  following the example (and re-using most part of the code) of Apache
> Camel I've prepared a module to automatically convert Apache Felix
> Karaf wiki pages into a PDF manual.
>
> The code uses Apache Camel "maven-html-to-pdf" subproject, that in
> turns uses a closed source xml->pdf converter available at
> princexml.com. The license of this tool is available at [1] and copied
> at the end of the email (after the signature).
>
> A Personal license of the tools is available for free. The website
> reports the following statements about this license
>
> "We offer a free Personal license of Prince for interactive use on a
> single computer. [...] However, for other uses you will need to
> purchase one of the other licenses we offer. If you wish to run Prince
> on a server, you need to purchase a Server license.
> [...]
> If this is a Personal license, PDF documents generated by the Software
> include a message that identifies the Software and the license type.
> Licensee shall not change or remove this message."
>
> My questions:
> 1) Is it (legally) acceptable to install princexml in our build
> machine, so we can generate the PDF manual as part of the build
> process?

IANAL opinion - I don't think so. I don't think that would fit their
Personal license.

> 2) Is it acceptable to upload the generated PDF in our Maven
> repository and consider it part of Apache Felix Karaf release?

Apart from the "PDF created by Personal License" piece, there doesn't
appear to be anything else that speaks to the pdf's output from the
product. Not being able to remove that statement would mean we
couldn't license them under AL 2.0 and would need to treat the files
as binary (no great loss, but you would need to make that clear in the
license files).

Hen

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Re: Using princexml.com converter tool in ASF projects (and publishing the artifacts)

Posted by natalia34love <na...@yandex.ru>.

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Re: Using princexml.com converter tool in ASF projects (and publishing the artifacts)

Posted by Guillaume Nodet <gu...@worldonline.fr>.

Just another thing.
We don't necesseraly need to install prince xml on our build server,
we can easily make this part of the build optional.
This would be to the release manager to ensure he has installed
princexml on its own computer before doing the release so that the
manual is correctly generated.

On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 14:44, Filippo Diotalevi
<fi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>  following the example (and re-using most part of the code) of Apache
> Camel I've prepared a module to automatically convert Apache Felix
> Karaf wiki pages into a PDF manual.
>
> The code uses Apache Camel "maven-html-to-pdf" subproject, that in
> turns uses a closed source xml->pdf converter available at
> princexml.com. The license of this tool is available at [1] and copied
> at the end of the email (after the signature).
>
> A Personal license of the tools is available for free. The website
> reports the following statements about this license
>
> "We offer a free Personal license of Prince for interactive use on a
> single computer. [...] However, for other uses you will need to
> purchase one of the other licenses we offer. If you wish to run Prince
> on a server, you need to purchase a Server license.
> [...]
> If this is a Personal license, PDF documents generated by the Software
> include a message that identifies the Software and the license type.
> Licensee shall not change or remove this message."
>
> My questions:
> 1) Is it (legally) acceptable to install princexml in our build
> machine, so we can generate the PDF manual as part of the build
> process?
> 2) Is it acceptable to upload the generated PDF in our Maven
> repository and consider it part of Apache Felix Karaf release?
>
> [1] http://www.princexml.com/license/
>
> Thanks for your suggestions,
> --
> Filippo Diotalevi
>
>
> ---princexml user license-------
>
> End User License Agreement
>
> This license agreement (the "Agreement") is entered into between you,
> as a private person or a company (the "Licensee") and YesLogic Pty
> Ltd, an Australian corporation, having its registered address at 7 /
> 39 Bouverie Street, Carlton, VIC 3053, Australia ("YesLogic"). By
> installing, copying or otherwise using all or any portion of the
> Prince formatter (the "Software") the Licensee agrees to be bound by
> the terms of the Agreement.
>
> 1. LICENSE
>
> Subject to the terms of this Agreement, YesLogic Ltd hereby grants to
> Licensee a non-exclusive, non-transferable, non-sublicensable and
> limited license only to install and use one copy of the Software on up
> to the number of computers or servers as authorized in this Agreement.
>
> If this is a Personal license or a Professional license, Licensee may
> download, install and use the Software on a single computer for
> Interactive use by a single user. Also, a Personal or Professional
> license may be used for evaluation purposes on a server.
>
> If this is a Server license, Licensee may download, install and use
> the Software on a server that is accessible to any number of end
> users. Additionally, Licensee may download, install and use the
> Software on another server which is only used for testing and
> development purposes.
>
> If this is an Academic Server license, Licensee may download, install
> and use the Software for Academic purposes on a server that is
> accessible to any number of end users. Additionally, Licensee may
> download, install and use the Software on another server which is only
> used for testing and development purposes.
>
> If this is an OEM license, Licensee may download, install and use the
> Software according to a separate agreement.
>
> 2. DEFINITIONS
>
> "Software" means: a) the Prince formatter included third party
> software files and other information and b) upgrades, updates and
> additions to such provided to you by YesLogic Ltd, to the extent not
> provided under a separate agreement.
>
> "Academic purposes" means the production of dissertations, papers,
> lecture notes, hand-outs and similar documents or publications of
> academic character for distribution on the Web, at lectures, or
> through university bookstores or similar academic channels that are
> not of a strictly commercial character. A university press run on
> commercial terms is considered to be strictly commercial.
>
> "Interactive use by a single user" means that all processing performed
> by the Software is initiated by a local human user. The Software may
> not be part of a web application or other server software.
>
> 3. LIMITATIONS AND RESTRICTIONS
>
> The following shall apply in addition to the limitations and
> restrictions set forth elsewhere in this Agreement:
>
> Licensee shall not modify, adapt, translate or create derivative works
> based upon the Software. Licensee shall not reverse engineer,
> decompile, disassemble or otherwise attempt to discover the source
> code of the Software.
>
> Licensee shall not allow third parties to use the Software for
> commercial service offerings to its own end users. Application service
> providers (ASPs), integrators and value-added resellers (VARs) of all
> kinds must enter into a separate VAR licensing agreement for such
> purposes.
>
> Licensee shall not reproduce, distribute, resell, rent, lease or
> disclose the Software in any manner to a third party.
>
> Licensee shall not transfer any of its rights under this Agreement
> without the express written consent of YesLogic.
>
> If this is a Personal license, PDF documents generated by the Software
> include a message that identifies the Software and the license type.
> Licensee shall not change or remove this message.
>
> 4. SUPPORT AND MAINTENANCE
>
> YesLogic will provide the following support and maintenance services
> (the "Services") free of charge for a period of 12 months following
> the date of this Agreement:
>
> a. E-mail support: YesLogic will attempt to respond to technical
> questions made by the Licensee by email within a reasonable period of
> time.
>
> b. Upgrades: YesLogic will attempt to distribute upgrades to the
> Software on a regular basis. Installation and use of such upgrades
> will be governed by the terms of this Agreement.
>
> Following the initial 12 month period, the same Services will be
> available to Licensee against payment of a separate support and
> maintenance fee.
>
> This Clause 4 does not apply if this is a Personal license.
>
> 5. INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY RIGHTS
>
> YesLogic and its suppliers are the owner of all intellectual property
> rights relating to the Software and the Services. These rights are
> protected by intellectual property legislation in Australia and other
> jurisdictions and by international treaty provisions. YesLogic and its
> suppliers retains all rights in the Software and the Services that are
> not expressly granted to the Licensee through this Agreement.
>
> Licensee is not allowed to remove, alter or destroy any proprietary,
> trademark or copyright markings or notices placed upon or contained
> with the Software.
>
> 6. PRIVACY
>
> The Licensee grants YesLogic the right to store contact details and
> other related information in order for YesLogic to contact the
> Licensee occasionally regarding the Software. YesLogic will not use
> contact details and other related information for any other purpose.
>
> 7. TERM AND TERMINATION
>
> The Agreement and the licensing rights provide to the Licensee shall
> continue for an indefinite term. Without prejudice to any other
> rights, YesLogic may terminate the Agreement if the Licensee fails to
> comply with the terms and conditions of this Agreement.
>
> 8. NO WARRANTY
>
> TO THE MAXIMUM EXTENT PERMITTED BY LAW, YESLOGIC DISCLAIMS ANY
> WARRANTY FOR THE SOFTWARE AND THE SERVICES. THE SOFTWARE, THE SERVICES
> AND ANY RELATED DOCUMENTATION IS PROVIDED ON AN "AS IS" BASIS WITHOUT
> WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, WHETHER EXPRESS OR IMPLIED, INCLUDING, BUT NOT
> LIMITED TO, IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY, FITNESS FOR A
> PARTICULAR PURPOSE, OR NON-INFRINGEMENT WITH REGARD TO THE SOFTWARE OR
> THE SERVICES.
>
> 9. CUSTOMER REMEDIES
>
> The entire liability for YesLogic, and the exclusive remedy for the
> Licensee, under this Agreement shall be, at YesLogic's option, to
> either (a) return the price paid for the Software, or (b) replace the
> Software.
>
> TO THE MAXIMUM EXTENT PERMITTED BY LAW, IN NO EVENT SHALL YESLOGIC OR
> ITS SUPPLIERS BE LIABLE FOR ANY SPECIAL, INCIDENTAL, INDIRECT OR
> CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES WHATSOEVER (INCLUDING, WITHOUT LIMITATION,
> DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF BUSINESS PROFITS, BUSINESS INTERRUPTION, LOSS OF
> BUSINESS INFORMATION, PERSONAL INJURY, LOSS OF PRIVACY OR ANY OTHER
> PECUNIARY LOSS) ARISING OUT OF THE USE OF OR INABILITY TO USE THE
> SOFTWARE OR THE SERVICES, EVEN IF ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH
> DAMAGES.
>
> 10. GOVERNING LAW AND ARBITRATION
>
> This Agreement shall be governed by and construed in accordance with
> Norwegian law. Any dispute arising under or in connection with this
> contract shall be referred to arbitration pursuant to the Norwegian
> 2004 Arbitration Act. Each Party shall appoint one arbitrator and the
> two arbitrators shall appoint the third arbitrator who shall be the
> chairman of the arbitration tribunal. The chairman shall be a
> Norwegian legal professional. If one Party fails to appoint an
> arbitrator within one month from being requested to do so or if the
> two arbitrators can not within one month from the last appointment
> agree on who shall be appointed chairman, the Chief Justice of Oslo
> District Court shall be the appointer. The venue of the arbitral
> proceedings shall be in Oslo, and the proceedings shall be conducted
> in the English language. The arbitration is deemed to be commenced
> when request for arbitration is being sent from the Party requesting
> arbitration. The Parties agree to conclude a separate agreement on
> confidentiality of both the arbitral proceedings and the award
> immediately after arbitration has been requested.
>
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-- 
Cheers,
Guillaume Nodet
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