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Posted to dev@openmeetings.apache.org by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com> on 2014/03/06 17:33:44 UTC
[RESULT][VOTE] Apache OpenMeetings 3.0.0 Release Candidate 2
I am closing the Vote for the Release Candidate 2, 72 hours are over.
The Vote is considered to be positive, it received:
5 PPMC +1:
solomax, albus, vdegtyatev, dkandrov, iarkh
Wider Community: 1 times +1Keiji Ono
<https://plus.google.com/u/0/110663155990390189344?prsrc=4>
1 time -1:
Peter Dähn
The VOTE thread is here:
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-openmeetings-dev/201207.mbox/%3CCACeMiA-ibo6fGCbnLjJX9H5H2kFGDVJRMfxPyMtzWzCWNi%2BpOg%40mail.gmail.com%3E
--
WBR
Maxim aka solomax
Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Apache OpenMeetings 3.0.0 Release Candidate 2
Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
I would also like to ship "bug free release", but unfortunately it is
impossible.
Last few releases were tested/voted in the manner I personally do not like:
1) no testing/issues during development phase
2) lots of "last day" show stoppers right after the VOTE is begin
I would prefer to release 3.0.1 in next 2 weeks than wait another month and
2-5 RC until everybody will be happy.
I'll try to resolve current recording issues in the nearest 1-2 weeks, then
will update demo with this version and we will perform another testing
round(s) to satisfy everybody.
On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 2:59 AM, seba.wagner@gmail.com <seba.wagner@gmail.com
> wrote:
> Sorry but I am not voting positive. I do not agree that the recording
> issues are "broken the same as before".
> I would rather like to resolve that before we ship that RC. If we release a
> RC as 3.x and we already know it has bugs that we just do not fix, it will
> not have the positive effect on the community and audience that we hope it
> has. That is my opinion. However the vote is done. There is a majority for
> releasing.
>
> Anybody that is keen on having a 3.0 can download a SNAPSHOT at any given
> time.
> A release is what we put out, where we create a press release et cetera.
> And there will be people noticing what we are doing when they hear it is
> going to be a HTML5 hybrid.
> So I think releases are important but it is a marketing effect associated
> with it. We want to make a good first impression. Or there is often no
> second chance.
>
> Sebastian
>
>
> 2014-03-07 5:33 GMT+13:00 Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>:
>
> > I am closing the Vote for the Release Candidate 2, 72 hours are over.
> > The Vote is considered to be positive, it received:
> >
> > 5 PPMC +1:
> > solomax, albus, vdegtyatev, dkandrov, iarkh
> >
> >
> > Wider Community: 1 times +1Keiji Ono
> > <https://plus.google.com/u/0/110663155990390189344?prsrc=4>
> >
> > 1 time -1:
> >
> > Peter Dähn
> >
> >
> > The VOTE thread is here:
> >
> >
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-openmeetings-dev/201207.mbox/%3CCACeMiA-ibo6fGCbnLjJX9H5H2kFGDVJRMfxPyMtzWzCWNi%2BpOg%40mail.gmail.com%3E
> >
> >
> > --
> > WBR
> > Maxim aka solomax
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Sebastian Wagner
> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
> http://www.webbase-design.de
> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
> seba.wagner@gmail.com
>
--
WBR
Maxim aka solomax
Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Apache OpenMeetings 3.0.0 Release Candidate 2
Posted by "seba.wagner@gmail.com" <se...@gmail.com>.
Nobody else is reporting any errors because nobody else is using it.
I literally have not been able to create a single working recording with
that release.
And I see major issues in the CPU usage that are un-explained. If that kind
of behavior is reproduce able on other machines you can simply not use the
software.
I am sorry that I do not have the time and resources to do that kind of
validation by myself.
The risk associated with it are just too big. I cannot give a positive vote
for that.
Sebastian
2014-03-07 9:14 GMT+13:00 Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>:
> The problem with these "major bugs" is: it is not reported.
> Really weird situation
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 3:11 AM, Joseph Karwat <jk...@jellnet.com> wrote:
>
> > While I do not have a vote in this. I agree with Sebastian. This
> release
> > does not sound like it is ready. It's bad form to release a product with
> > known major bugs.
> >
> > Joseph
> >
> > Joseph Karwat | CEO | 415.462.0263
> > Jell Networks, LLC
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: seba.wagner@gmail.com [mailto:seba.wagner@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, March 6, 2014 12:00 PM
> > To: dev
> > Subject: Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Apache OpenMeetings 3.0.0 Release Candidate 2
> >
> > Sorry but I am not voting positive. I do not agree that the recording
> > issues
> > are "broken the same as before".
> > I would rather like to resolve that before we ship that RC. If we
> release a
> > RC as 3.x and we already know it has bugs that we just do not fix, it
> will
> > not have the positive effect on the community and audience that we hope
> it
> > has. That is my opinion. However the vote is done. There is a majority
> for
> > releasing.
> >
> > Anybody that is keen on having a 3.0 can download a SNAPSHOT at any given
> > time.
> > A release is what we put out, where we create a press release et cetera.
> > And there will be people noticing what we are doing when they hear it is
> > going to be a HTML5 hybrid.
> > So I think releases are important but it is a marketing effect associated
> > with it. We want to make a good first impression. Or there is often no
> > second chance.
> >
> > Sebastian
> >
> >
> > 2014-03-07 5:33 GMT+13:00 Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>:
> >
> > > I am closing the Vote for the Release Candidate 2, 72 hours are over.
> > > The Vote is considered to be positive, it received:
> > >
> > > 5 PPMC +1:
> > > solomax, albus, vdegtyatev, dkandrov, iarkh
> > >
> > >
> > > Wider Community: 1 times +1Keiji Ono
> > > <https://plus.google.com/u/0/110663155990390189344?prsrc=4>
> > >
> > > 1 time -1:
> > >
> > > Peter Dähn
> > >
> > >
> > > The VOTE thread is here:
> > >
> > > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-openmeetings-dev/20
> > > 1207.mbox/%3CCACeMiA-ibo6fGCbnLjJX9H5H2kFGDVJRMfxPyMtzWzCWNi%2BpOg%40m
> > > ail.gmail.com%3E
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > WBR
> > > Maxim aka solomax
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Sebastian Wagner
> > https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
> > http://www.webbase-design.de
> > http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
> > seba.wagner@gmail.com
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> WBR
> Maxim aka solomax
>
--
Sebastian Wagner
https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
http://www.webbase-design.de
http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
seba.wagner@gmail.com
Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Apache OpenMeetings 3.0.0 Release Candidate 2
Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
The problem with these "major bugs" is: it is not reported.
Really weird situation
On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 3:11 AM, Joseph Karwat <jk...@jellnet.com> wrote:
> While I do not have a vote in this. I agree with Sebastian. This release
> does not sound like it is ready. It's bad form to release a product with
> known major bugs.
>
> Joseph
>
> Joseph Karwat | CEO | 415.462.0263
> Jell Networks, LLC
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: seba.wagner@gmail.com [mailto:seba.wagner@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, March 6, 2014 12:00 PM
> To: dev
> Subject: Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Apache OpenMeetings 3.0.0 Release Candidate 2
>
> Sorry but I am not voting positive. I do not agree that the recording
> issues
> are "broken the same as before".
> I would rather like to resolve that before we ship that RC. If we release a
> RC as 3.x and we already know it has bugs that we just do not fix, it will
> not have the positive effect on the community and audience that we hope it
> has. That is my opinion. However the vote is done. There is a majority for
> releasing.
>
> Anybody that is keen on having a 3.0 can download a SNAPSHOT at any given
> time.
> A release is what we put out, where we create a press release et cetera.
> And there will be people noticing what we are doing when they hear it is
> going to be a HTML5 hybrid.
> So I think releases are important but it is a marketing effect associated
> with it. We want to make a good first impression. Or there is often no
> second chance.
>
> Sebastian
>
>
> 2014-03-07 5:33 GMT+13:00 Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>:
>
> > I am closing the Vote for the Release Candidate 2, 72 hours are over.
> > The Vote is considered to be positive, it received:
> >
> > 5 PPMC +1:
> > solomax, albus, vdegtyatev, dkandrov, iarkh
> >
> >
> > Wider Community: 1 times +1Keiji Ono
> > <https://plus.google.com/u/0/110663155990390189344?prsrc=4>
> >
> > 1 time -1:
> >
> > Peter Dähn
> >
> >
> > The VOTE thread is here:
> >
> > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-openmeetings-dev/20
> > 1207.mbox/%3CCACeMiA-ibo6fGCbnLjJX9H5H2kFGDVJRMfxPyMtzWzCWNi%2BpOg%40m
> > ail.gmail.com%3E
> >
> >
> > --
> > WBR
> > Maxim aka solomax
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Sebastian Wagner
> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
> http://www.webbase-design.de
> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
> seba.wagner@gmail.com
>
>
--
WBR
Maxim aka solomax
RE: [RESULT][VOTE] Apache OpenMeetings 3.0.0 Release Candidate 2
Posted by Joseph Karwat <jk...@jellnet.com>.
While I do not have a vote in this. I agree with Sebastian. This release
does not sound like it is ready. It's bad form to release a product with
known major bugs.
Joseph
Joseph Karwat | CEO | 415.462.0263
Jell Networks, LLC
-----Original Message-----
From: seba.wagner@gmail.com [mailto:seba.wagner@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 6, 2014 12:00 PM
To: dev
Subject: Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Apache OpenMeetings 3.0.0 Release Candidate 2
Sorry but I am not voting positive. I do not agree that the recording issues
are "broken the same as before".
I would rather like to resolve that before we ship that RC. If we release a
RC as 3.x and we already know it has bugs that we just do not fix, it will
not have the positive effect on the community and audience that we hope it
has. That is my opinion. However the vote is done. There is a majority for
releasing.
Anybody that is keen on having a 3.0 can download a SNAPSHOT at any given
time.
A release is what we put out, where we create a press release et cetera.
And there will be people noticing what we are doing when they hear it is
going to be a HTML5 hybrid.
So I think releases are important but it is a marketing effect associated
with it. We want to make a good first impression. Or there is often no
second chance.
Sebastian
2014-03-07 5:33 GMT+13:00 Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>:
> I am closing the Vote for the Release Candidate 2, 72 hours are over.
> The Vote is considered to be positive, it received:
>
> 5 PPMC +1:
> solomax, albus, vdegtyatev, dkandrov, iarkh
>
>
> Wider Community: 1 times +1Keiji Ono
> <https://plus.google.com/u/0/110663155990390189344?prsrc=4>
>
> 1 time -1:
>
> Peter Dähn
>
>
> The VOTE thread is here:
>
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-openmeetings-dev/20
> 1207.mbox/%3CCACeMiA-ibo6fGCbnLjJX9H5H2kFGDVJRMfxPyMtzWzCWNi%2BpOg%40m
> ail.gmail.com%3E
>
>
> --
> WBR
> Maxim aka solomax
>
--
Sebastian Wagner
https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
http://www.webbase-design.de
http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
seba.wagner@gmail.com
Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Apache OpenMeetings 3.0.0 Release Candidate 2
Posted by "seba.wagner@gmail.com" <se...@gmail.com>.
Sorry but I am not voting positive. I do not agree that the recording
issues are "broken the same as before".
I would rather like to resolve that before we ship that RC. If we release a
RC as 3.x and we already know it has bugs that we just do not fix, it will
not have the positive effect on the community and audience that we hope it
has. That is my opinion. However the vote is done. There is a majority for
releasing.
Anybody that is keen on having a 3.0 can download a SNAPSHOT at any given
time.
A release is what we put out, where we create a press release et cetera.
And there will be people noticing what we are doing when they hear it is
going to be a HTML5 hybrid.
So I think releases are important but it is a marketing effect associated
with it. We want to make a good first impression. Or there is often no
second chance.
Sebastian
2014-03-07 5:33 GMT+13:00 Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>:
> I am closing the Vote for the Release Candidate 2, 72 hours are over.
> The Vote is considered to be positive, it received:
>
> 5 PPMC +1:
> solomax, albus, vdegtyatev, dkandrov, iarkh
>
>
> Wider Community: 1 times +1Keiji Ono
> <https://plus.google.com/u/0/110663155990390189344?prsrc=4>
>
> 1 time -1:
>
> Peter Dähn
>
>
> The VOTE thread is here:
>
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-openmeetings-dev/201207.mbox/%3CCACeMiA-ibo6fGCbnLjJX9H5H2kFGDVJRMfxPyMtzWzCWNi%2BpOg%40mail.gmail.com%3E
>
>
> --
> WBR
> Maxim aka solomax
>
--
Sebastian Wagner
https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
http://www.webbase-design.de
http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
seba.wagner@gmail.com