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Posted to users@httpd.apache.org by Jeff Cauhape <jp...@detr.nv.gov> on 2019/05/03 19:26:21 UTC

[users@httpd] Simple file listing issue in browser, 2.2 vs 2.4

Folks,

This is probably a simple issue, but so far I haven't found anything in the
doc that addresses this directly.

A user has pointed out that a listing of a directory on one system running
Apache 2.2.3 shows files with their details - mod time, file size, etc., while
a nearly identical set up (pathnames differ) on a system running Apache 2.4.29
shows only the file names with no other details.

The files ownership and permissions are the same.
Files are accessible in both cases.
Configuration info in the httpd.conf files are identical. "Options +Indexes", etc.

How do I get 2.4.29 to display the other file attributes besides the name?

Jeffrey Cauhape - IT Professional III - Linux and Solaris Administrator
Nevada Department of Employment, Training and Rehabilitation
(775) 684-3804 (office)     jpcauhape@detr.nv.gov<ma...@detr.nv.gov>

[users@httpd] Re: Simple file listing issue in browser, 2.2 vs 2.4

Posted by Christophe JAILLET <ch...@wanadoo.fr>.

Hi,

I mean "IndexOptions" [1], not "Options +Indexes".
IndexOptions is used to control the output of mod_autoindex.

It can be used with SuppressLastModified, SuppressSize (if FancyIndexing 
is also applied, details in [1]) in order to tweak the output.


The Order allow,deny stuff is not an issue.
This syntax is not recommended for 2.4, but:
    - either you have mod_access_compat loaded [2] and this syntax is 
supported by 2.4.x
    - either you should have a syntax error in your conf file at startup
In your case, the server starts so, the syntax is supported.

CJ


[1]: 
https://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.4/en/mod/mod_autoindex.html#indexoptions
[2]: https://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.4/en/mod/mod_access_compat.html


Le 03/05/2019 à 22:11, Jeff Cauhape a écrit :
>
> Yes, the index options are the same.
>
> This system (Apache 2.2.3) shows the filenames and size and mod date. 
> (On Red Hat 5.11)
>
> Alias /oracle "/u01/app/oracle"
>
> <Directory "/u01/app/oracle">
>
> AuthType Basic
>
> AuthName "Oracle"
>
> AuthBasicProvider file
>
> AuthUserFile /etc/httpd/auth/detr
>
> Require valid-user
>
> *Options +Indexes*
>
> AllowOverride All Options
>
> Order allow,deny
>
> Allow from all
>
> </Directory>
>
> This system (2.4.29) shows only the file name. (On Solaris 11.3)
>
> Alias /oracle "/export/home/logs"
>
> <Directory "/export/home/logs">
>
> AuthType  Basic
>
> AuthName  "Oracle Logs"
>
> AuthBasicProvider file
>
> AuthUserFile /usr/apache2/2.4/auth/cap
>
> Require valid-user
>
> *Options +Indexes*
>
> AllowOverride  All Options
>
> Order allow,deny
>
> Allow from  all
>
> </Directory>
>
> *Jeffrey Cauhape – IT Professional III – Linux and Solaris Administrator*
>
> Nevada Department of Employment, Training and Rehabilitation
>
> (775) 684-3804 (office) jpcauhape@detr.nv.gov 
> <ma...@detr.nv.gov>
>
> *From:*Christophe JAILLET [mailto:christophe.jaillet@wanadoo.fr]
> *Sent:* Friday, May 3, 2019 12:57 PM
> *To:* users@httpd.apache.org; Jeff Cauhape <jp...@detr.nv.gov>
> *Subject:* [users@httpd] Re: Simple file listing issue in browser, 2.2 
> vs 2.4
>
> Le 03/05/2019 à 21:26, Jeff Cauhape a écrit :
>
>     Folks,
>
>     This is probably a simple issue, but so far I haven’t found
>     anything in the
>
>     doc that addresses this directly.
>
>     A user has pointed out that a listing of a directory on one system
>     running
>
>     Apache 2.2.3 shows files with their details – mod time, file size,
>     etc., while
>
>     a nearly identical set up (pathnames differ) on a system running
>     Apache 2.4.29
>
>     shows only the file names with no other details.
>
>     The files ownership and permissions are the same.
>
>     Files are accessible in both cases.
>
>     Configuration info in the httpd.conf files are identical. “Options
>     +Indexes”, etc.
>
>     How do I get 2.4.29 to display the other file attributes besides
>     the name?
>
>     *Jeffrey Cauhape – IT Professional III – Linux and Solaris
>     Administrator*
>
>     Nevada Department of Employment, Training and Rehabilitation
>
>     (775) 684-3804 (office) jpcauhape@detr.nv.gov
>     <ma...@detr.nv.gov>
>
> Hi,
>
> have you checked if the IndexOptions directive is the same in both 
> configuration?
>
> CJ
>

Re: [users@httpd] Re: Simple file listing issue in browser, 2.2 vs 2.4

Posted by Jim Weill <mo...@icsi.berkeley.edu>.

I know the docs say mixing 2.2 and 2.4 directives is not recommended:
https://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.4/upgrading.html

I don't know if that might affect the listing you're expecting, though.  I
know RHEL uses SELinux for access control, but Solaris has its own similar
methods.  Might be likely you need to relax whatever Solaris is doing to
get the results you're looking for.

jim

On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 1:42 PM Jeff Cauhape <jp...@detr.nv.gov> wrote:

> Actually I don’t know – but would that have an effect on whether all of
> the file details are displayed?
>
>
>
> Also – just to be clear – I can access the file contents when just the
> names are displayed, so I’m thinking
>
> it isn’t a permissions issue but a display issue.
>
>
>
> *Jeffrey Cauhape – IT Professional III – Linux and Solaris Administrator*
>
> Nevada Department of Employment, Training and Rehabilitation
>
> (775) 684-3804 (office)     jpcauhape@detr.nv.gov
>
>
>
> *From:* Jim Weill [mailto:moondog@icsi.berkeley.edu]
> *Sent:* Friday, May 3, 2019 1:29 PM
> *To:* users@httpd.apache.org
> *Subject:* Re: [users@httpd] Re: Simple file listing issue in browser,
> 2.2 vs 2.4
>
>
>
> Doesn't 2.4.x use "Require" instead of the "Order allow, deny Allow from
> all"?
>
>
>
> As I understand it, 2.4.x should have "Require all granted" in place of
> those last two lines in your config.
>
>
>
> jim
>
>
>
> On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 1:11 PM Jeff Cauhape <jp...@detr.nv.gov> wrote:
>
> Yes, the index options are the same.
>
>
>
> This system (Apache 2.2.3) shows the filenames and size and mod date. (On
> Red Hat 5.11)
>
>
>
> Alias /oracle "/u01/app/oracle"
>
> <Directory "/u01/app/oracle">
>
>         AuthType Basic
>
>         AuthName "Oracle"
>
>         AuthBasicProvider file
>
>         AuthUserFile /etc/httpd/auth/detr
>
>         Require valid-user
>
> *        Options +Indexes*
>
>         AllowOverride All Options
>
>         Order allow,deny
>
>         Allow from all
>
> </Directory>
>
>
>
> This system (2.4.29) shows only the file name. (On Solaris 11.3)
>
>
>
> Alias /oracle "/export/home/logs"
>
> <Directory "/export/home/logs">
>
>         AuthType  Basic
>
>         AuthName  "Oracle Logs"
>
>         AuthBasicProvider file
>
>         AuthUserFile /usr/apache2/2.4/auth/cap
>
>         Require valid-user
>
> *        Options +Indexes*
>
>         AllowOverride  All Options
>
>         Order allow,deny
>
>         Allow from  all
>
> </Directory>
>
>
>
>
>
> *Jeffrey Cauhape – IT Professional III – Linux and Solaris Administrator*
>
> Nevada Department of Employment, Training and Rehabilitation
>
> (775) 684-3804 (office)     jpcauhape@detr.nv.gov
>
>
>
> *From:* Christophe JAILLET [mailto:christophe.jaillet@wanadoo.fr]
> *Sent:* Friday, May 3, 2019 12:57 PM
> *To:* users@httpd.apache.org; Jeff Cauhape <jp...@detr.nv.gov>
> *Subject:* [users@httpd] Re: Simple file listing issue in browser, 2.2 vs
> 2.4
>
>
>
> Le 03/05/2019 à 21:26, Jeff Cauhape a écrit :
>
> Folks,
>
>
>
> This is probably a simple issue, but so far I haven’t found anything in the
>
> doc that addresses this directly.
>
>
>
> A user has pointed out that a listing of a directory on one system running
>
> Apache 2.2.3 shows files with their details – mod time, file size, etc.,
> while
>
> a nearly identical set up (pathnames differ) on a system running Apache
> 2.4.29
>
> shows only the file names with no other details.
>
>
>
> The files ownership and permissions are the same.
>
> Files are accessible in both cases.
>
> Configuration info in the httpd.conf files are identical. “Options
> +Indexes”, etc.
>
>
>
> How do I get 2.4.29 to display the other file attributes besides the name?
>
>
>
> *Jeffrey Cauhape – IT Professional III – Linux and Solaris Administrator*
>
> Nevada Department of Employment, Training and Rehabilitation
>
> (775) 684-3804 (office)     jpcauhape@detr.nv.gov
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
> have you checked if the IndexOptions directive is the same in both
> configuration?
>
> CJ
>
>

RE: [users@httpd] Re: Simple file listing issue in browser, 2.2 vs 2.4

Posted by Jeff Cauhape <jp...@detr.nv.gov>.

Actually I don’t know – but would that have an effect on whether all of the file details are displayed?

Also – just to be clear – I can access the file contents when just the names are displayed, so I’m thinking
it isn’t a permissions issue but a display issue.

Jeffrey Cauhape – IT Professional III – Linux and Solaris Administrator
Nevada Department of Employment, Training and Rehabilitation
(775) 684-3804 (office)     jpcauhape@detr.nv.gov<ma...@detr.nv.gov>

From: Jim Weill [mailto:moondog@icsi.berkeley.edu]
Sent: Friday, May 3, 2019 1:29 PM
To: users@httpd.apache.org
Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Re: Simple file listing issue in browser, 2.2 vs 2.4

Doesn't 2.4.x use "Require" instead of the "Order allow, deny Allow from all"?

As I understand it, 2.4.x should have "Require all granted" in place of those last two lines in your config.

jim

On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 1:11 PM Jeff Cauhape <jp...@detr.nv.gov>> wrote:
Yes, the index options are the same.

This system (Apache 2.2.3) shows the filenames and size and mod date. (On Red Hat 5.11)

Alias /oracle "/u01/app/oracle"
<Directory "/u01/app/oracle">
        AuthType Basic
        AuthName "Oracle"
        AuthBasicProvider file
        AuthUserFile /etc/httpd/auth/detr
        Require valid-user
        Options +Indexes
        AllowOverride All Options
        Order allow,deny
        Allow from all
</Directory>

This system (2.4.29) shows only the file name. (On Solaris 11.3)

Alias /oracle "/export/home/logs"
<Directory "/export/home/logs">
        AuthType  Basic
        AuthName  "Oracle Logs"
        AuthBasicProvider file
        AuthUserFile /usr/apache2/2.4/auth/cap
        Require valid-user
        Options +Indexes
        AllowOverride  All Options
        Order allow,deny
        Allow from  all
</Directory>


Jeffrey Cauhape – IT Professional III – Linux and Solaris Administrator
Nevada Department of Employment, Training and Rehabilitation
(775) 684-3804 (office)     jpcauhape@detr.nv.gov<ma...@detr.nv.gov>

From: Christophe JAILLET [mailto:christophe.jaillet@wanadoo.fr<ma...@wanadoo.fr>]
Sent: Friday, May 3, 2019 12:57 PM
To: users@httpd.apache.org<ma...@httpd.apache.org>; Jeff Cauhape <jp...@detr.nv.gov>>
Subject: [users@httpd] Re: Simple file listing issue in browser, 2.2 vs 2.4

Le 03/05/2019 à 21:26, Jeff Cauhape a écrit :
Folks,

This is probably a simple issue, but so far I haven’t found anything in the
doc that addresses this directly.

A user has pointed out that a listing of a directory on one system running
Apache 2.2.3 shows files with their details – mod time, file size, etc., while
a nearly identical set up (pathnames differ) on a system running Apache 2.4.29
shows only the file names with no other details.

The files ownership and permissions are the same.
Files are accessible in both cases.
Configuration info in the httpd.conf files are identical. “Options +Indexes”, etc.

How do I get 2.4.29 to display the other file attributes besides the name?

Jeffrey Cauhape – IT Professional III – Linux and Solaris Administrator
Nevada Department of Employment, Training and Rehabilitation
(775) 684-3804 (office)     jpcauhape@detr.nv.gov<ma...@detr.nv.gov>


Hi,

have you checked if the IndexOptions directive is the same in both configuration?

CJ