Terminology

[Carsten Ziegeler <cz...@apache.org>]

Hi,

afaik the current terminology for ACE uses bundles, groups and license.
I know that this has historical background, but I somehow feel uneasy
with these :)
So what do you think of changing them, especially license might cause
problems.

This is not a must.

Given that we might change this, where do we have to apply these changes?

Carsten
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RE: Terminology

[Martijn van Berkum <mv...@gx.nl>]

Also +1 on updating the terminology, they are confusing for a first time user.

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From: tonit.com@googlemail.com [mailto:tonit.com@googlemail.com] On Behalf Of Toni Menzel
Sent: donderdag 12 november 2009 10:43
To: ace-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Terminology

+1 for updating terminology.
I have exactly the same issue since i started working with ace.

Personally i had issues with understanding the real meaning of:

[Gateway]
They are basically the provisioning targets, management agent runs on them)
I had trouble with getting used to it but now it works. Still, to me this
term seems a bit outdates to me. (like a term from the 90s).

[License]
This is more about assigning bundle groups to gateways. Routhly speaking:
license is one possible implementation to archive this, but having license
as a core concept is really not necessary, and also confusing.
So, what i'm saying here is not just a renaming, its more about trimming the
core down and make the license concept an optional implementation "plugin".

On the other hand, bundles & groups are fairly straightforward ;)
..
Toni

On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 10:20 AM, Carsten Ziegeler <cz...@apache.org>wrote:

> Hi,
>
> afaik the current terminology for ACE uses bundles, groups and license.
> I know that this has historical background, but I somehow feel uneasy
> with these :)
> So what do you think of changing them, especially license might cause
> problems.
>
> This is not a must.
>
> Given that we might change this, where do we have to apply these changes?
>
> Carsten
> --
> Carsten Ziegeler
> cziegeler@apache.org
>



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Re: Terminology

[Toni Menzel <to...@okidokiteam.com>]

+1 for updating terminology.
I have exactly the same issue since i started working with ace.

Personally i had issues with understanding the real meaning of:

[Gateway]
They are basically the provisioning targets, management agent runs on them)
I had trouble with getting used to it but now it works. Still, to me this
term seems a bit outdates to me. (like a term from the 90s).

[License]
This is more about assigning bundle groups to gateways. Routhly speaking:
license is one possible implementation to archive this, but having license
as a core concept is really not necessary, and also confusing.
So, what i'm saying here is not just a renaming, its more about trimming the
core down and make the license concept an optional implementation "plugin".

On the other hand, bundles & groups are fairly straightforward ;)
..
Toni

On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 10:20 AM, Carsten Ziegeler <cz...@apache.org>wrote:

> Hi,
>
> afaik the current terminology for ACE uses bundles, groups and license.
> I know that this has historical background, but I somehow feel uneasy
> with these :)
> So what do you think of changing them, especially license might cause
> problems.
>
> This is not a must.
>
> Given that we might change this, where do we have to apply these changes?
>
> Carsten
> --
> Carsten Ziegeler
> cziegeler@apache.org
>



-- 
Toni Menzel
Independent Software Developer
Professional Profile: http://okidokiteam.com
toni@okidokiteam.com
http://www.ops4j.org     - New Energy for OSS Communities - Open
Participation Software.