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Posted to dev@ofbiz.apache.org by Sharan Foga <sh...@apache.org> on 2017/06/06 07:20:08 UTC

Re: [DOCUMENTATION] Fixing our End User Documentation Problem

Hi All

Just for info - I've made a post to the camel community here

https://s.apache.org/QmyQ

I'll monitor it for any responses or feedback.

Thanks
Sharan

On 2017-05-30 16:21 (+0200), Sharan Foga <sh...@gmail.com> wrote: 
> It sounds like we need to talk to them. I'd be happy to take a look at 
> their lists and ask some questions.
> 
> Thanks
> Sharan
> 
> On 30/05/17 15:53, Michael Brohl wrote:
> > They also have a (somehow generated) User manual for every 
> > Release/Version available in html [1] and PDF [2] format.
> >
> > [1] http://camel.apache.org/manual.html
> >
> > [2] http://camel.apache.org/manual/
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Michael
> >
> >
> > Am 30.05.17 um 15:44 schrieb Michael Brohl:
> >> I think it would be great if we could refer to the wiki pages but 
> >> have the look & feel of the (new) website.
> >>
> >> I'm not sure how it is done but the Camel people refer to their wiki 
> >> pages in Confluence but the website does not look like Confluence. 
> >> Just click on "edit page" at the end of the pages and you'll be 
> >> directed to Confluence.
> >>
> >> This way we could have the advantages of a wiki but have also a nicer 
> >> user experience.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Michael Brohl
> >> ecomify GmbH
> >> www.ecomify.de
> >>
> >>
> >> Am 30.05.17 um 15:16 schrieb Sharan Foga:
> >>> Thanks Pierre!
> >>>
> >>> At the moment the new website has a menu option called 
> >>> 'Documentation' and a submenu 'User Documentaton' with a link that 
> >>> doesn't actually point anywhere yet. So this is where a key entry 
> >>> point will be. We could also add specific links from the home page 
> >>> or page footer as a quick link.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks
> >>> Sharan
> >>>
> >>> On 30/05/17 14:43, Pierre Smits wrote:
> >>>> Great initiative!
> >>>>
> >>>> How does is this going to fit into our new website initiative?
> >>>>
> >>>> Best regards,
> >>>>
> >>>> Pierre Smits
> >>>>
> >>>> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
> >>>> OFBiz based solutions & services
> >>>>
> >>>> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
> >>>> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> >>>>
> >>>> On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 11:12 AM, Taher Alkhateeb <
> >>>> slidingfilaments@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> +1
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Fantastic initiative.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 12:10 PM, Sharan Foga <sh...@gmail.com>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Excellent and thanks for the link Michael!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thanks
> >>>>>> Sharan
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 30/05/17 11:07, Michael Brohl wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hi Sharan, Craig,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> this is great and will fit well into the Wiki restructure efforts.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> For the FAQ or how-tos, we can check the user questions and 
> >>>>>>> start with
> >>>>>>> the most frequently asked questions/answers found on the mailing 
> >>>>>>> lists
> >>>>> and
> >>>>>>> stack overflow [1].
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Looking forward to your documentation results,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> best regards,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Michael Brohl
> >>>>>>> ecomify GmbH
> >>>>>>> www.ecomify.de
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> [1] https://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/ofbiz
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Am 30.05.17 um 10:12 schrieb Sharan Foga:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Hi All
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Craig Parker and I are planning to take on our End User 
> >>>>>>>> Documentation
> >>>>>>>> problem. Our goal is to improve the OFBiz documentation and 
> >>>>>>>> provide
> >>>>> some
> >>>>>>>> useful information for users and non-technical people. We plan 
> >>>>>>>> to work
> >>>>> on
> >>>>>>>> the following:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> *_OFBiz Glossary_*
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>   * Put together a full glossary of OFBiz terms so that the 
> >>>>>>>> concepts are
> >>>>>>>>     clear (things like catalogs, parties, even products can be 
> >>>>>>>> confusing
> >>>>>>>>     when trying to explain what they are)
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> *_Menu Structured Documentation _*
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>   * This will follow the existing menu structure and will 
> >>>>>>>> eventually
> >>>>>>>>     replace / update the current in application screen help 
> >>>>>>>> that is
> >>>>>>>>     already in OFBiz.
> >>>>>>>>   * The focus of this effort will be to standardise the 
> >>>>>>>> information and
> >>>>>>>>     complete missing information initially for core modules and 
> >>>>>>>> official
> >>>>>>>>     plugins
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> *_End User Guide_*
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>   * This will give users an overview of the applications and 
> >>>>>>>> processes
> >>>>>>>>   * It will include a list of basic tasks for each process
> >>>>>>>>   * It will also include links to examples
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> *_How Tos_*
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>   * This will be a quick reference How-To by area (for example 
> >>>>>>>> the first
> >>>>>>>>     set of these will focus on downloading and installing OFBiz)
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> *_Examples and Tutorials_*
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>   * This will provide practical examples of using the 
> >>>>>>>> applications in a
> >>>>>>>>     real life scenario
> >>>>>>>>   * It will build understanding (and familiarity) by having a 
> >>>>>>>> common
> >>>>>>>>     theme or story
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> *_Training Matrix_*
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>   * We also talked about putting together some form of Training 
> >>>>>>>> Matrix
> >>>>>>>>     but I think that could be done after the other content has 
> >>>>>>>> been
> >>>>>>>>     developed.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> *_Implementation Strategy and Next Steps_*
> >>>>>>>> I'd like to temporarily recover and use the End User Docs 
> >>>>>>>> workspace to
> >>>>>>>> prepare all of these. I prefer using a separate space where we 
> >>>>>>>> won't
> >>>>> need
> >>>>>>>> to be concerned about the wiki re-organisation. Also at the moment
> >>>>> there is
> >>>>>>>> already some user documentation in the End User Docs workspace 
> >>>>>>>> so we
> >>>>> can
> >>>>>>>> review that as part of the documentation effort and incorporate 
> >>>>>>>> it or
> >>>>>>>> re-write it where it necessary.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Another idea is that the End User Docs workspace could be a 
> >>>>>>>> good place
> >>>>>>>> to store what will become the replacement for our in 
> >>>>>>>> application screen
> >>>>>>>> sensitive help. The main thing we are missing is content - once we
> >>>>> have the
> >>>>>>>> content we look at extracting it into whatever format we need.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> As the documentation sections are completed we will move them 
> >>>>>>>> over to
> >>>>>>>> the re-organised documentation space in the wiki.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> At this stage we are going to be having any documentation 
> >>>>>>>> discussions
> >>>>>>>> etc on this list but the aim is that this effort will 
> >>>>>>>> eventually also
> >>>>>>>> encourage contributions and feedback from our user community.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Also if anyone else is interested in helping contribute to this 
> >>>>>>>> effort
> >>>>>>>> then please let me know.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Thanks
> >>>>>>>> Sharan
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
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