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Programming Environment
Hello Everyone,
Back then, just a little help...
What is the environment you use to develop WSRF applications within Muse?
It's not a poll, it's just that i was used working with Eclipse to develop
Java Apps, but now i couldn't find any plugin or good IDE to work with all
this WSDL, XML, SOA ...
I tried Eclipse WTP, didn't like it, and now i am checking NetBeans, but
maybe you already made this choice and could help. Or do you all use text
editors only?
My goal is to develop a WSRF-compliant service with backend in Java - the
usual :) .
Best regards,
Nelson P Kotowski Filho.
RE: Programming Environment
Posted by Ch...@swisscom.com.
Thats really great news Balan, I had found the europa build before (with
the property change handling) and after alot of fighting with stuff got
it working. The previous 3.2 releases were seamless, but for demoing I
found the property update to be a great feature.
I'm really looking forward to see the next versions, I don't use the
produced projects (I have my own muse environment) but the editors are a
godsend. I had to manually edit stuff for PullPoints and some other
things but other than that mostly a copy and paste job (then run
wsdl2java to redo with 2.2 :-).
Can't recommend this more for easy tweaking of WSDM stuff. My only real
complaint, which so far is easy to work around, has been the metrics
handling, everything else was super easy.
________________________________
From: Balan Subramanian [mailto:bsubram@us.ibm.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 4:59 PM
To: muse-user@ws.apache.org
Subject: RE: Programming Environment
Hi Chris,
We have moved only new development of the TPTP WSDM/Muse tooling to the
Eclipse COSMOS project. We are waiting final approval in COSMOS to check
in the code and start making builds.
However the earlier builds in TPTP should work fine. They are not
directly accessible from the downloads page. But please take a look at
the link below - it has the instructions and the links to the actual
downloads you need to set up the Eclipse tooling for Muse.
http://www.eclipse.org/tptp/monitoring/documents/tutorials/tptp_wsdm_set
up_4.4.html
We also have a more descriptive article on how to setup the tooling on
this site but it is slightly outdated.
http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/edu/ac-dw-ac-wsdmeclipse-i.html
Ignore the "Setting up the development environment" section but you can
pretty much follow the rest.
Hope this helps,
Balan
Balan Subramanian
Autonomic Computing, IBM, RTP, NC
919.543.0197 | bsubram@us.ibm.com
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RE: Programming Environment
Hi Nelson,
I use WTP with TPTP, unfortunately the WSDM (Muse) integration has been
moved to another project and doesn't seem to work. Eclispe 3.2 with WTP
and TPTP does work however. This provides you nice wizards to work
directly within Muse and a reasonable simple system to see/debug your
live resources.
cheers,
Chris
-----Original Message-----
From: Nelson Kotowski [mailto:nkotowski@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 11:05 AM
To: muse-user@ws.apache.org
Subject: Programming Environment
Hello Everyone,
Back then, just a little help...
What is the environment you use to develop WSRF applications within
Muse?
It's not a poll, it's just that i was used working with Eclipse to
develop Java Apps, but now i couldn't find any plugin or good IDE to
work with all this WSDL, XML, SOA ...
I tried Eclipse WTP, didn't like it, and now i am checking NetBeans, but
maybe you already made this choice and could help. Or do you all use
text editors only?
My goal is to develop a WSRF-compliant service with backend in Java -
the usual :) .
Best regards,
Nelson P Kotowski Filho.
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RE: Programming Environment
Posted by Balan Subramanian <bs...@us.ibm.com>.
Hi Chris,
We have moved only new development of the TPTP WSDM/Muse tooling to the
Eclipse COSMOS project. We are waiting final approval in COSMOS to check in
the code and start making builds.
However the earlier builds in TPTP should work fine. They are not directly
accessible from the downloads page. But please take a look at the link
below - it has the instructions and the links to the actual downloads you
need to set up the Eclipse tooling for Muse.
http://www.eclipse.org/tptp/monitoring/documents/tutorials/tptp_wsdm_setup_4.4.html
We also have a more descriptive article on how to setup the tooling on this
site but it is slightly outdated.
http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/edu/ac-dw-ac-wsdmeclipse-i.html
Ignore the "Setting up the development environment" section but you can
pretty much follow the rest.
Hope this helps,
Balan
Balan Subramanian
Autonomic Computing, IBM, RTP, NC
919.543.0197 | bsubram@us.ibm.com
<Chris.Twiner@swi
sscom.com>
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Hi Nelson,
I use WTP with TPTP, unfortunately the WSDM (Muse) integration has been
moved to another project and doesn't seem to work. Eclispe 3.2 with WTP
and TPTP does work however. This provides you nice wizards to work
directly within Muse and a reasonable simple system to see/debug your
live resources.
cheers,
Chris
-----Original Message-----
From: Nelson Kotowski [mailto:nkotowski@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 11:05 AM
To: muse-user@ws.apache.org
Subject: Programming Environment
Hello Everyone,
Back then, just a little help...
What is the environment you use to develop WSRF applications within
Muse?
It's not a poll, it's just that i was used working with Eclipse to
develop Java Apps, but now i couldn't find any plugin or good IDE to
work with all this WSDL, XML, SOA ...
I tried Eclipse WTP, didn't like it, and now i am checking NetBeans, but
maybe you already made this choice and could help. Or do you all use
text editors only?
My goal is to develop a WSRF-compliant service with backend in Java -
the usual :) .
Best regards,
Nelson P Kotowski Filho.
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Re: Programming Environment
Posted by Nelson Kotowski <nk...@gmail.com>.
Hello Balan,
Great, i appreciate your help too.
I am going to check out those new possibilities, i believe it will help me a
lot!
Best regards,
Nelson P Kotowski Filho.
On Nov 29, 2007 12:59 PM, Balan Subramanian <bs...@us.ibm.com> wrote:
> Hi Nelson,
> From my other post on the same topic:
>
>
> the earlier builds in TPTP should work fine. They are not directly
> accessible from the downloads page. But please take a look at the link below
> - it has the instructions and the links to the actual downloads you need to
> set up the Eclipse tooling for Muse.
>
>
> http://www.eclipse.org/tptp/monitoring/documents/tutorials/tptp_wsdm_setup_4.4.html
>
> We also have a more descriptive article on how to setup the tooling on
> this site but it is slightly outdated.
> http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/edu/ac-dw-ac-wsdmeclipse-i.html
> Ignore the "Setting up the development environment" section but you can
> pretty much follow the rest.
>
> Hope this helps,
> Balan
>
> Balan Subramanian
> Autonomic Computing, IBM, RTP, NC
> 919.543.0197 | bsubram@us.ibm.com
>
>
>
>
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> Thanks Chris,
>
> I'll try this set of tools!!! :)
>
> Hope it works fine for my needs :)
>
> Best regards,
> Nelson P Kotowski Filho.
>
> On Nov 29, 2007 9:26 AM, <Ch...@swisscom.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi Nelson,
> >
> > I use WTP with TPTP, unfortunately the WSDM (Muse) integration has been
> > moved to another project and doesn't seem to work. Eclispe 3.2 with WTP
> > and TPTP does work however. This provides you nice wizards to work
> > directly within Muse and a reasonable simple system to see/debug your
> > live resources.
> >
> > cheers,
> > Chris
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Nelson Kotowski [mailto:nkotowski@gmail.com <nk...@gmail.com>]
> > Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 11:05 AM
> > To: muse-user@ws.apache.org
> > Subject: Programming Environment
> >
> > Hello Everyone,
> >
> > Back then, just a little help...
> >
> > What is the environment you use to develop WSRF applications within
> > Muse?
> > It's not a poll, it's just that i was used working with Eclipse to
> > develop Java Apps, but now i couldn't find any plugin or good IDE to
> > work with all this WSDL, XML, SOA ...
> >
> > I tried Eclipse WTP, didn't like it, and now i am checking NetBeans, but
> > maybe you already made this choice and could help. Or do you all use
> > text editors only?
> >
> > My goal is to develop a WSRF-compliant service with backend in Java -
> > the usual :) .
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Nelson P Kotowski Filho.
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: muse-user-unsubscribe@ws.apache.org
> > For additional commands, e-mail: muse-user-help@ws.apache.org
> >
> >
>
>
Re: Programming Environment
Posted by Balan Subramanian <bs...@us.ibm.com>.
Hi Nelson,
>From my other post on the same topic:
the earlier builds in TPTP should work fine. They are not directly
accessible from the downloads page. But please take a look at the link
below - it has the instructions and the links to the actual downloads you
need to set up the Eclipse tooling for Muse.
http://www.eclipse.org/tptp/monitoring/documents/tutorials/tptp_wsdm_setup_4.4.html
We also have a more descriptive article on how to setup the tooling on this
site but it is slightly outdated.
http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/edu/ac-dw-ac-wsdmeclipse-i.html
Ignore the "Setting up the development environment" section but you can
pretty much follow the rest.
Hope this helps,
Balan
Balan Subramanian
Autonomic Computing, IBM, RTP, NC
919.543.0197 | bsubram@us.ibm.com
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Please respond to
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Thanks Chris,
I'll try this set of tools!!! :)
Hope it works fine for my needs :)
Best regards,
Nelson P Kotowski Filho.
On Nov 29, 2007 9:26 AM, <Ch...@swisscom.com> wrote:
> Hi Nelson,
>
> I use WTP with TPTP, unfortunately the WSDM (Muse) integration has been
> moved to another project and doesn't seem to work. Eclispe 3.2 with WTP
> and TPTP does work however. This provides you nice wizards to work
> directly within Muse and a reasonable simple system to see/debug your
> live resources.
>
> cheers,
> Chris
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nelson Kotowski [mailto:nkotowski@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 11:05 AM
> To: muse-user@ws.apache.org
> Subject: Programming Environment
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
> Back then, just a little help...
>
> What is the environment you use to develop WSRF applications within
> Muse?
> It's not a poll, it's just that i was used working with Eclipse to
> develop Java Apps, but now i couldn't find any plugin or good IDE to
> work with all this WSDL, XML, SOA ...
>
> I tried Eclipse WTP, didn't like it, and now i am checking NetBeans, but
> maybe you already made this choice and could help. Or do you all use
> text editors only?
>
> My goal is to develop a WSRF-compliant service with backend in Java -
> the usual :) .
>
> Best regards,
> Nelson P Kotowski Filho.
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> To unsubscribe, e-mail: muse-user-unsubscribe@ws.apache.org
> For additional commands, e-mail: muse-user-help@ws.apache.org
>
>
Re: Programming Environment
Posted by Nelson Kotowski <nk...@gmail.com>.
Thanks Chris,
I'll try this set of tools!!! :)
Hope it works fine for my needs :)
Best regards,
Nelson P Kotowski Filho.
On Nov 29, 2007 9:26 AM, <Ch...@swisscom.com> wrote:
> Hi Nelson,
>
> I use WTP with TPTP, unfortunately the WSDM (Muse) integration has been
> moved to another project and doesn't seem to work. Eclispe 3.2 with WTP
> and TPTP does work however. This provides you nice wizards to work
> directly within Muse and a reasonable simple system to see/debug your
> live resources.
>
> cheers,
> Chris
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nelson Kotowski [mailto:nkotowski@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 11:05 AM
> To: muse-user@ws.apache.org
> Subject: Programming Environment
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
> Back then, just a little help...
>
> What is the environment you use to develop WSRF applications within
> Muse?
> It's not a poll, it's just that i was used working with Eclipse to
> develop Java Apps, but now i couldn't find any plugin or good IDE to
> work with all this WSDL, XML, SOA ...
>
> I tried Eclipse WTP, didn't like it, and now i am checking NetBeans, but
> maybe you already made this choice and could help. Or do you all use
> text editors only?
>
> My goal is to develop a WSRF-compliant service with backend in Java -
> the usual :) .
>
> Best regards,
> Nelson P Kotowski Filho.
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> To unsubscribe, e-mail: muse-user-unsubscribe@ws.apache.org
> For additional commands, e-mail: muse-user-help@ws.apache.org
>
>
RE: Programming Environment
Posted by Ch...@swisscom.com.
Hi Nelson,
I use WTP with TPTP, unfortunately the WSDM (Muse) integration has been
moved to another project and doesn't seem to work. Eclispe 3.2 with WTP
and TPTP does work however. This provides you nice wizards to work
directly within Muse and a reasonable simple system to see/debug your
live resources.
cheers,
Chris
-----Original Message-----
From: Nelson Kotowski [mailto:nkotowski@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 11:05 AM
To: muse-user@ws.apache.org
Subject: Programming Environment
Hello Everyone,
Back then, just a little help...
What is the environment you use to develop WSRF applications within
Muse?
It's not a poll, it's just that i was used working with Eclipse to
develop Java Apps, but now i couldn't find any plugin or good IDE to
work with all this WSDL, XML, SOA ...
I tried Eclipse WTP, didn't like it, and now i am checking NetBeans, but
maybe you already made this choice and could help. Or do you all use
text editors only?
My goal is to develop a WSRF-compliant service with backend in Java -
the usual :) .
Best regards,
Nelson P Kotowski Filho.
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Re: Programming Environment
Posted by Nelson Kotowski <nk...@gmail.com>.
Lenni,
> Ohh and I edit my WSDLs by hand in the Eclipse text editor mode of the
> WSDL editor. Not exactly the most efficient way, but I found XMLspy
> license too costly for adding a graphical WSDL editor (only available in
> the Enterprise license, not the professional one).
That's one scary issue... text editing WSDL files.
But it is good to hear how do you face your difficulties, because so far,
i've been having a hard time trying to figure out how does someone that's
not used to Muse start developing a WSRF-compliant service from scratch (and
a simple idea). I mean, the documentation helps, but i lack some better
examples, such as a "Hello World" in a WSRF point of view :)
Best regards,
Nelson P Kotowski Filho.
On Nov 29, 2007 9:49 AM, <le...@bt.com> wrote:
> My approach is simple yet highly efficient (from my point of view) I use
> Eclipse as a graphical editor and the built in Ant view and an Ant
> script for automating the inter wsdl2java generation, copying business
> logic into the generated framework, compiling it and then deploy it.
>
> Ohh and I edit my WSDLs by hand in the Eclipse text editor mode of the
> WSDL editor. Not exactly the most efficient way, but I found XMLspy
> license too costly for adding a graphical WSDL editor (only available in
> the Enterprise license, not the professional one).
>
> I can (and have to the Muse staff) share a rough draft of a test
> project.
>
> /Lenni
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nelson Kotowski [mailto:nkotowski@gmail.com]
> Sent: 29 November 2007 10:05
> To: muse-user@ws.apache.org
> Subject: Programming Environment
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
> Back then, just a little help...
>
> What is the environment you use to develop WSRF applications within
> Muse?
> It's not a poll, it's just that i was used working with Eclipse to
> develop
> Java Apps, but now i couldn't find any plugin or good IDE to work with
> all
> this WSDL, XML, SOA ...
>
> I tried Eclipse WTP, didn't like it, and now i am checking NetBeans, but
> maybe you already made this choice and could help. Or do you all use
> text
> editors only?
>
> My goal is to develop a WSRF-compliant service with backend in Java -
> the
> usual :) .
>
> Best regards,
> Nelson P Kotowski Filho.
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> To unsubscribe, e-mail: muse-user-unsubscribe@ws.apache.org
> For additional commands, e-mail: muse-user-help@ws.apache.org
>
>
RE: Programming Environment
Posted by le...@bt.com.
My approach is simple yet highly efficient (from my point of view) I use
Eclipse as a graphical editor and the built in Ant view and an Ant
script for automating the inter wsdl2java generation, copying business
logic into the generated framework, compiling it and then deploy it.
Ohh and I edit my WSDLs by hand in the Eclipse text editor mode of the
WSDL editor. Not exactly the most efficient way, but I found XMLspy
license too costly for adding a graphical WSDL editor (only available in
the Enterprise license, not the professional one).
I can (and have to the Muse staff) share a rough draft of a test
project.
/Lenni
-----Original Message-----
From: Nelson Kotowski [mailto:nkotowski@gmail.com]
Sent: 29 November 2007 10:05
To: muse-user@ws.apache.org
Subject: Programming Environment
Hello Everyone,
Back then, just a little help...
What is the environment you use to develop WSRF applications within
Muse?
It's not a poll, it's just that i was used working with Eclipse to
develop
Java Apps, but now i couldn't find any plugin or good IDE to work with
all
this WSDL, XML, SOA ...
I tried Eclipse WTP, didn't like it, and now i am checking NetBeans, but
maybe you already made this choice and could help. Or do you all use
text
editors only?
My goal is to develop a WSRF-compliant service with backend in Java -
the
usual :) .
Best regards,
Nelson P Kotowski Filho.
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