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Posted to dev@camel.apache.org by "Jan Matèrne (jhm)" <ap...@materne.de> on 2013/09/17 13:44:29 UTC
CAMEL-6648
I want to ask for feedback for
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CAMEL-6648
cheers
Jan
Re: AW: AW: CAMEL-6648
Posted by Hadrian Zbarcea <hz...@gmail.com>.
Will do. The default is 'Major' so pretty much all issues are like that.
Few are changed to a different level (usually to draw attention to
something that has a more serious impact). It's hard to be pedantic with
the issue severities, because, we are a self managed community (like all
others at the ASF) and the severity is in the eye of the beholder, not
driven by a business impact as is usually the case with commercial software.
Cheers,
Hadrian
On 11/11/2013 02:32 PM, Jan Matèrne (jhm) wrote:
>> Personally I don't think there is a need for one in camel core. As a
>> framework, camel should stay very simple and provide solutions/helpers
>> for the common use cases. Such a dsl, while useful in your context adds
>> unnecessary (imho) complexity for camel. That's the beauty of camel, it
>> is pluggable and extensible, but not all extensions are good candidates
>> for inclusion back in the core for various reasons (some depend on non
>> compatible licenses, and hosted at camel-extra, some are application
>> specific, etc).
>>
>> FWIW, I've been using variations of the builder pattern for a long
>> while, but to build domain specific messages and then use the generic
>> ProducerTemplate to send them to an Endpoint. I consider it a better
>> approach, as it is tied to the (semantics of the) domain vs the lower
>> level Camel api.
>>
>> Your work is noted though and appreciated.
>> Hadrian
>
> Then please close that issue.
> I wonder why this was prioritized as "major" ....
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CAMEL-6648
>
>
> Jan
>
AW: AW: CAMEL-6648
Posted by "Jan Matèrne (jhm)" <ap...@materne.de>.
> Personally I don't think there is a need for one in camel core. As a
> framework, camel should stay very simple and provide solutions/helpers
> for the common use cases. Such a dsl, while useful in your context adds
> unnecessary (imho) complexity for camel. That's the beauty of camel, it
> is pluggable and extensible, but not all extensions are good candidates
> for inclusion back in the core for various reasons (some depend on non
> compatible licenses, and hosted at camel-extra, some are application
> specific, etc).
>
> FWIW, I've been using variations of the builder pattern for a long
> while, but to build domain specific messages and then use the generic
> ProducerTemplate to send them to an Endpoint. I consider it a better
> approach, as it is tied to the (semantics of the) domain vs the lower
> level Camel api.
>
> Your work is noted though and appreciated.
> Hadrian
Then please close that issue.
I wonder why this was prioritized as "major" ....
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CAMEL-6648
Jan
Re: AW: CAMEL-6648
Posted by Hadrian Zbarcea <hz...@gmail.com>.
Jan,
Personally I don't think there is a need for one in camel core. As a
framework, camel should stay very simple and provide solutions/helpers
for the common use cases. Such a dsl, while useful in your context adds
unnecessary (imho) complexity for camel. That's the beauty of camel, it
is pluggable and extensible, but not all extensions are good candidates
for inclusion back in the core for various reasons (some depend on non
compatible licenses, and hosted at camel-extra, some are application
specific, etc).
FWIW, I've been using variations of the builder pattern for a long
while, but to build domain specific messages and then use the generic
ProducerTemplate to send them to an Endpoint. I consider it a better
approach, as it is tied to the (semantics of the) domain vs the lower
level Camel api.
Your work is noted though and appreciated.
Hadrian
On 11/11/2013 04:14 AM, Jan Matèrne (jhm) wrote:
> Is there no need any more for that builder?
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CAMEL-6648
>
> I am asking for feedback for two months now ...
>
>
> Jan
>
>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>> Von: Jan Matèrne (jhm) [mailto:apache@materne.de]
>> Gesendet: Freitag, 11. Oktober 2013 07:25
>> An: 'dev@camel.apache.org'
>> Betreff: AW: CAMEL-6648
>>
>> Another ping ;)
>>
>> Jan
>>
>>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>>> Von: Jan Matèrne (jhm) [mailto:apache@materne.de]
>>> Gesendet: Freitag, 27. September 2013 12:20
>>> An: dev@camel.apache.org
>>> Betreff: AW: CAMEL-6648
>>>
>>> Ok, thanks for the explanation.
>>>
>>> Jan
>>>
>>>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>>>> Von: Raul Kripalani [mailto:raul@evosent.com]
>>>> Gesendet: Freitag, 27. September 2013 12:03
>>>> An: dev@camel.apache.org
>>>> Betreff: Re: CAMEL-6648
>>>>
>>>> I'm overloaded these days with client work. If someone else wants
>> to
>>>> take a stab, you're welcome.
>>>> Otherwise, I'm hopeful I'll be able to review next week.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Raúl.
>>>>
>>>> 2013/9/26 Jan Matèrne (jhm) <ap...@materne.de>
>>>>
>>>>> Another "ping" ;)
>>>>>
>>>>> Jan
>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>>>>>> Von: Jan Matèrne (jhm) [mailto:apache@materne.de]
>>>>>> Gesendet: Dienstag, 17. September 2013 13:44
>>>>>> An: dev@camel.apache.org
>>>>>> Betreff: CAMEL-6648
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I want to ask for feedback for
>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CAMEL-6648
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> cheers
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jan
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>
>
AW: CAMEL-6648
Posted by "Jan Matèrne (jhm)" <ap...@materne.de>.
Is there no need any more for that builder?
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CAMEL-6648
I am asking for feedback for two months now ...
Jan
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Jan Matèrne (jhm) [mailto:apache@materne.de]
> Gesendet: Freitag, 11. Oktober 2013 07:25
> An: 'dev@camel.apache.org'
> Betreff: AW: CAMEL-6648
>
> Another ping ;)
>
> Jan
>
> > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: Jan Matèrne (jhm) [mailto:apache@materne.de]
> > Gesendet: Freitag, 27. September 2013 12:20
> > An: dev@camel.apache.org
> > Betreff: AW: CAMEL-6648
> >
> > Ok, thanks for the explanation.
> >
> > Jan
> >
> > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > > Von: Raul Kripalani [mailto:raul@evosent.com]
> > > Gesendet: Freitag, 27. September 2013 12:03
> > > An: dev@camel.apache.org
> > > Betreff: Re: CAMEL-6648
> > >
> > > I'm overloaded these days with client work. If someone else wants
> to
> > > take a stab, you're welcome.
> > > Otherwise, I'm hopeful I'll be able to review next week.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Raúl.
> > >
> > > 2013/9/26 Jan Matèrne (jhm) <ap...@materne.de>
> > >
> > > > Another "ping" ;)
> > > >
> > > > Jan
> > > >
> > > > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > > > > Von: Jan Matèrne (jhm) [mailto:apache@materne.de]
> > > > > Gesendet: Dienstag, 17. September 2013 13:44
> > > > > An: dev@camel.apache.org
> > > > > Betreff: CAMEL-6648
> > > > >
> > > > > I want to ask for feedback for
> > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CAMEL-6648
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > cheers
> > > > >
> > > > > Jan
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
AW: CAMEL-6648
Posted by "Jan Matèrne (jhm)" <ap...@materne.de>.
Another ping ;)
Jan
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Jan Matèrne (jhm) [mailto:apache@materne.de]
> Gesendet: Freitag, 27. September 2013 12:20
> An: dev@camel.apache.org
> Betreff: AW: CAMEL-6648
>
> Ok, thanks for the explanation.
>
> Jan
>
> > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: Raul Kripalani [mailto:raul@evosent.com]
> > Gesendet: Freitag, 27. September 2013 12:03
> > An: dev@camel.apache.org
> > Betreff: Re: CAMEL-6648
> >
> > I'm overloaded these days with client work. If someone else wants to
> > take a stab, you're welcome.
> > Otherwise, I'm hopeful I'll be able to review next week.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Raúl.
> >
> > 2013/9/26 Jan Matèrne (jhm) <ap...@materne.de>
> >
> > > Another "ping" ;)
> > >
> > > Jan
> > >
> > > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > > > Von: Jan Matèrne (jhm) [mailto:apache@materne.de]
> > > > Gesendet: Dienstag, 17. September 2013 13:44
> > > > An: dev@camel.apache.org
> > > > Betreff: CAMEL-6648
> > > >
> > > > I want to ask for feedback for
> > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CAMEL-6648
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > cheers
> > > >
> > > > Jan
> > >
> > >
> > >
AW: CAMEL-6648
Posted by "Jan Matèrne (jhm)" <ap...@materne.de>.
Ok, thanks for the explanation.
Jan
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Raul Kripalani [mailto:raul@evosent.com]
> Gesendet: Freitag, 27. September 2013 12:03
> An: dev@camel.apache.org
> Betreff: Re: CAMEL-6648
>
> I'm overloaded these days with client work. If someone else wants to
> take a stab, you're welcome.
> Otherwise, I'm hopeful I'll be able to review next week.
>
> Regards,
> Raúl.
>
> 2013/9/26 Jan Matèrne (jhm) <ap...@materne.de>
>
> > Another "ping" ;)
> >
> > Jan
> >
> > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > > Von: Jan Matèrne (jhm) [mailto:apache@materne.de]
> > > Gesendet: Dienstag, 17. September 2013 13:44
> > > An: dev@camel.apache.org
> > > Betreff: CAMEL-6648
> > >
> > > I want to ask for feedback for
> > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CAMEL-6648
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > cheers
> > >
> > > Jan
> >
> >
> >
Re: CAMEL-6648
Posted by Raul Kripalani <ra...@evosent.com>.
I'm overloaded these days with client work. If someone else wants to take a
stab, you're welcome.
Otherwise, I'm hopeful I'll be able to review next week.
Regards,
Raúl.
2013/9/26 Jan Matèrne (jhm) <ap...@materne.de>
> Another "ping" ;)
>
> Jan
>
> > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: Jan Matèrne (jhm) [mailto:apache@materne.de]
> > Gesendet: Dienstag, 17. September 2013 13:44
> > An: dev@camel.apache.org
> > Betreff: CAMEL-6648
> >
> > I want to ask for feedback for
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CAMEL-6648
> >
> >
> >
> > cheers
> >
> > Jan
>
>
>
AW: CAMEL-6648
Posted by "Jan Matèrne (jhm)" <ap...@materne.de>.
Another "ping" ;)
Jan
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Jan Matèrne (jhm) [mailto:apache@materne.de]
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 17. September 2013 13:44
> An: dev@camel.apache.org
> Betreff: CAMEL-6648
>
> I want to ask for feedback for
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CAMEL-6648
>
>
>
> cheers
>
> Jan