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Posted to user@trafodion.apache.org by Gunnar Tapper <ta...@gmail.com> on 2016/02/03 17:51:18 UTC

Trafodion's usage of Except

Hi,

I'm trying to understand Trafodion required packages and their usage.

What's the Except package used for?

-- 
Thanks,

Gunnar
*If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.*

Re: 答复: Trafodion's usage of Except

Posted by Gunnar Tapper <ta...@gmail.com>.
Hi Ming,

I am working on the Provisioning Guide for 1.3. You can update the
Contributor Guide to your heart's content and should do so as part of your
change. :)

Thanks,

Gunnar

On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 4:20 PM, Liu, Ming (Ming) <mi...@esgyn.cn> wrote:

> Hi, Gunnar,
>
>
>
> I am working on TRAFODION-1750, which will remove the dependencies of
> qpid, it will further reduce the list of packages to install,specificly, it
> will remove these packages:
>
>
>
> python-qpid \
>
>          python-qpid-qmf qpid-cpp-client \
>
>          qpid-cpp-client-ssl qpid-cpp-server qpid-cpp-server-ssl \
>
>          qpid-qmf qpid-tools
>
>
>
> Once it is done, you can further shorten the yum install list in the wiki
> page
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAFODION/Create+Build+Environment
> for the “Install Required Packages” section.
>
> Very glad you are working on this, to minimize this list is very important.
>
>
>
> Another proposal from me is about libhdfs.so, the default built libhdfs.so
> from Apache Hadoop tar is 32 bit. I think the CDH tar also cannot be used
> directly. Build from HDFS source is not very straight forward.
>
> So it will be good to have a github repository or other public places to
> put a copy of it, so everyone can download directly. Since Trafodion is not
> a good place to put in binary package.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ming
>
>
>
> *发件人:* Gunnar Tapper [mailto:tapper.gunnar@gmail.com]
> *发送时间:* 2016年2月4日 2:02
> *收件人:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> *主题:* Re: Trafodion's usage of Except
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> You're right.
>
>    package_list="log4cxx sqlite expect perl-DBD-SQLite* protobuf xerces-c
> perl-Params-Validate perl-Time-HiRes gzip"
>
>
>
> I'm trying to determine what's the minimum list of packages that need to
> be installed for; for example, a SUSE deployment. The fewer packages
> required for the end-user environment the better.
>
>
>
> Judging from
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAFODION/Create+Build+Environment,
> perl-expect is needed for the build environment but not expect. Thus, I
> wonder if expect isn't needed at all?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Gunnar
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 10:53 AM, Steve Varnau <st...@esgyn.com>
> wrote:
>
> I don’t think there is an “except” package. Do you mean “expect”?
>
>
>
> I believe expect is used only in the developer test environment, not for
> runtime usage of Trafodion.
>
>
>
> --Steve
>
>
>
> *From:* Gunnar Tapper [mailto:tapper.gunnar@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 3, 2016 8:51 AM
> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> *Subject:* Trafodion's usage of Except
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> I'm trying to understand Trafodion required packages and their usage.
>
>
>
> What's the Except package used for?
>
>
>
> --
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Gunnar
>
> *If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.*
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Gunnar
>
> *If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.*
>



-- 
Thanks,

Gunnar
*If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.*

答复: Trafodion's usage of Except

Posted by "Liu, Ming (Ming)" <mi...@esgyn.cn>.
Hi, Gunnar,

I am working on TRAFODION-1750, which will remove the dependencies of qpid, it will further reduce the list of packages to install,specificly, it will remove these packages:

python-qpid \
         python-qpid-qmf qpid-cpp-client \
         qpid-cpp-client-ssl qpid-cpp-server qpid-cpp-server-ssl \
         qpid-qmf qpid-tools

Once it is done, you can further shorten the yum install list in the wiki page https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAFODION/Create+Build+Environment for the “Install Required Packages” section.
Very glad you are working on this, to minimize this list is very important.

Another proposal from me is about libhdfs.so, the default built libhdfs.so from Apache Hadoop tar is 32 bit. I think the CDH tar also cannot be used directly. Build from HDFS source is not very straight forward.
So it will be good to have a github repository or other public places to put a copy of it, so everyone can download directly. Since Trafodion is not a good place to put in binary package.

Thanks,
Ming

发件人: Gunnar Tapper [mailto:tapper.gunnar@gmail.com]
发送时间: 2016年2月4日 2:02
收件人: user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
主题: Re: Trafodion's usage of Except

Hi,

You're right.
   package_list="log4cxx sqlite expect perl-DBD-SQLite* protobuf xerces-c perl-Params-Validate perl-Time-HiRes gzip"

I'm trying to determine what's the minimum list of packages that need to be installed for; for example, a SUSE deployment. The fewer packages required for the end-user environment the better.

Judging from https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAFODION/Create+Build+Environment, perl-expect is needed for the build environment but not expect. Thus, I wonder if expect isn't needed at all?

Thanks,

Gunnar

On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 10:53 AM, Steve Varnau <st...@esgyn.com>> wrote:
I don’t think there is an “except” package. Do you mean “expect”?

I believe expect is used only in the developer test environment, not for runtime usage of Trafodion.

--Steve

From: Gunnar Tapper [mailto:tapper.gunnar@gmail.com<ma...@gmail.com>]
Sent: Wednesday, February 3, 2016 8:51 AM
To: user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org<ma...@trafodion.incubator.apache.org>
Subject: Trafodion's usage of Except

Hi,

I'm trying to understand Trafodion required packages and their usage.

What's the Except package used for?

--
Thanks,

Gunnar
If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.



--
Thanks,

Gunnar
If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.

Re: Trafodion's usage of Except

Posted by Gunnar Tapper <ta...@gmail.com>.
Hi,

You're right.

   package_list="log4cxx sqlite expect perl-DBD-SQLite* protobuf xerces-c
perl-Params-Validate perl-Time-HiRes gzip"

I'm trying to determine what's the minimum list of packages that need to be
installed for; for example, a SUSE deployment. The fewer packages required
for the end-user environment the better.

Judging from
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAFODION/Create+Build+Environment,
perl-expect is needed for the build environment but not expect. Thus, I
wonder if expect isn't needed at all?

Thanks,

Gunnar

On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 10:53 AM, Steve Varnau <st...@esgyn.com>
wrote:

> I don’t think there is an “except” package. Do you mean “expect”?
>
>
>
> I believe expect is used only in the developer test environment, not for
> runtime usage of Trafodion.
>
>
>
> --Steve
>
>
>
> *From:* Gunnar Tapper [mailto:tapper.gunnar@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 3, 2016 8:51 AM
> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> *Subject:* Trafodion's usage of Except
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> I'm trying to understand Trafodion required packages and their usage.
>
>
>
> What's the Except package used for?
>
>
>
> --
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Gunnar
>
> *If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.*
>



-- 
Thanks,

Gunnar
*If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.*

RE: Trafodion's usage of Except

Posted by Steve Varnau <st...@esgyn.com>.
I don’t think there is an “except” package. Do you mean “expect”?



I believe expect is used only in the developer test environment, not for
runtime usage of Trafodion.



--Steve



*From:* Gunnar Tapper [mailto:tapper.gunnar@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Wednesday, February 3, 2016 8:51 AM
*To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*Subject:* Trafodion's usage of Except



Hi,



I'm trying to understand Trafodion required packages and their usage.



What's the Except package used for?



-- 

Thanks,



Gunnar

*If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.*