what's with OJB Project?

["Manukyan, Sergey" <SM...@lear.com>]

Folks,

It has been a while since last release of 1.0.4. I have been a user of
ojb since 1.0.2... for about 4 years... but going forward concerns me.
With no new releases I would like to ask how does the perspective looks
for this project? Is work currently being done? Why such a big gap in
releases? Are there still plans to ship 1.1?

Regards,

-Sergey


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Re: what's with OJB Project?

[Daniel Sommer <da...@support.tsa.de>]

Hey all,

i am using ojb and xdoclet-ojb for my first time. I have just now
the following problem (maybe you can't also solve my problem, because 
you do not use xdoclet-ojb-module (xom)?):

I want to use xom and torque for automatically create the database 
(mysql in my case). But till now i was not able
to advise xom, to apply default values for the table columns, which are 
created for the java fields.
I need this, when i set the concerning field to autoincrement="true" 
(db) and do not set a value to the java field
before storing the object to the table. I alway get an error (missing 
value/no default set). (I do not want to set
a value, because i use this field as unique identifier for inheritance 
relationship, and try to minimize effort in
implementing java classes).

On the other hand i could set ojb to make the autoincrement, then i do 
not need a default value, but then i have
the problem, that (for a very strange reason i did not work out till 
now, additionally due to the fact, that there is no
error or any warning message) the ojb specific database tables are not 
created! However they are needed, as an error
occures when running the application.

For any help i would be very grateful.

thx,
Daniel

Alessandro Colantoni schrieb:
> Hi Sergey and Armin.
> I'm using Ojb since 0.9, so 4-5 years, even if I just used the persistence
> broker.
> I see that Ojb is not growing up, anyway I never had a problem with it, and
> I think it is a great product.
> I think that now I'm ojb dependent and I couldn't work without it.
> I work in Spain and in the last 2 years here people started with ORM, and
> all the world went to Hibernate.
> When I started with ojb and I talked about ORM people didn't know what this
> was.
> I never felt the need to switch to Hibernate, because ojb is perfect for my
> needing, and I always had the freedom to choose technology which work with.
> Anyway I'm afraid that some day some manager will order me to switch, to
> align the company technology, but I have arguments to say no.
> Why switch to a similar technology and pay the effort, if this one never
> gave problems?, is so easy to use?
> I'm not a so good engineer, anyway if you want, just tell me what can I do
> to help. I will organize my work so to have time for ojb. In some week I
> could be ready to start.
> I developed a framework called mandragora http://mandragora.sourceforge.net/ ,
> I already talked in this forum about it, but nobody was interested.
> It is based on Ojb, with the idea to make it more easy to use, hiding it, in
> the same way ojb hide sql. The idea is to put a layer above it.
> So I developed  lots of methods, from the easy findbyprimarykey to more
> complex updateTrees, to update very structured business object just in a
> line of code. The idea is that in a MVN application, the controller calls
> methods of and interface BD (Business Delegate), and this do all the work
> using a generic DAO based on Ojb. It is very, configurable so that can be
> choosed the class implementing The BD and the DAO.
> The BD and DAO can be easily extended
> Have a look, even if documentation is very poor, (I'm working on it).
>
> Tank you again for ojb
> Best Regards
> Alessandro Colantoni
>
>
>
>
> On 8/23/07, Armin Waibel <ar...@apache.org> wrote:
>   
>> Hi Sergey,
>>
>> Manukyan, Sergey wrote:
>>     
>>> Folks,
>>>
>>> It has been a while since last release of 1.0.4. I have been a user of
>>> ojb since 1.0.2... for about 4 years... but going forward concerns me.
>>> With no new releases I would like to ask how does the perspective looks
>>> for this project?
>>>       
>> Well, it depends on the community. Currently it seems that only a few
>> people are able to (interested in) spend time for OJB. I will continue
>> my work on OJB.
>>
>>     
>>> Is work currently being done?
>>>       
>> Yep! Will check in some improvements for OJB's xdoclet module within the
>> next few days (docs and license notes are up to date - did this a few
>> ago) and then build an unofficial 1.5rc1 to give user the ability to
>> test the upcoming 1.0.5 release before official release.
>>
>>     
>>> Why such a big gap in
>>> releases?
>>>       
>> Lack of manpower (nobody wants to do the administrative stuff ;-)).
>>
>>     
>>> Are there still plans to ship 1.1?
>>>       
>> I started work on trunk/1.1?/2.0? and locally I have a lot of files to
>> check in (1.0.x backports + new stuff) and many ideas in mind. But
>> without support of other developer it's hard to realize.
>>
>> regards,
>> Armin
>>
>>     
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> -Sergey
>>>
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Re: what's with OJB Project?

[Alessandro Colantoni <al...@gmail.com>]

Hi Sergey and Armin.
I'm using Ojb since 0.9, so 4-5 years, even if I just used the persistence
broker.
I see that Ojb is not growing up, anyway I never had a problem with it, and
I think it is a great product.
I think that now I'm ojb dependent and I couldn't work without it.
I work in Spain and in the last 2 years here people started with ORM, and
all the world went to Hibernate.
When I started with ojb and I talked about ORM people didn't know what this
was.
I never felt the need to switch to Hibernate, because ojb is perfect for my
needing, and I always had the freedom to choose technology which work with.
Anyway I'm afraid that some day some manager will order me to switch, to
align the company technology, but I have arguments to say no.
Why switch to a similar technology and pay the effort, if this one never
gave problems?, is so easy to use?
I'm not a so good engineer, anyway if you want, just tell me what can I do
to help. I will organize my work so to have time for ojb. In some week I
could be ready to start.
I developed a framework called mandragora http://mandragora.sourceforge.net/ ,
I already talked in this forum about it, but nobody was interested.
It is based on Ojb, with the idea to make it more easy to use, hiding it, in
the same way ojb hide sql. The idea is to put a layer above it.
So I developed  lots of methods, from the easy findbyprimarykey to more
complex updateTrees, to update very structured business object just in a
line of code. The idea is that in a MVN application, the controller calls
methods of and interface BD (Business Delegate), and this do all the work
using a generic DAO based on Ojb. It is very, configurable so that can be
choosed the class implementing The BD and the DAO.
The BD and DAO can be easily extended
Have a look, even if documentation is very poor, (I'm working on it).

Tank you again for ojb
Best Regards
Alessandro Colantoni




On 8/23/07, Armin Waibel <ar...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Hi Sergey,
>
> Manukyan, Sergey wrote:
> > Folks,
> >
> > It has been a while since last release of 1.0.4. I have been a user of
> > ojb since 1.0.2... for about 4 years... but going forward concerns me.
> > With no new releases I would like to ask how does the perspective looks
> > for this project?
>
> Well, it depends on the community. Currently it seems that only a few
> people are able to (interested in) spend time for OJB. I will continue
> my work on OJB.
>
> > Is work currently being done?
>
> Yep! Will check in some improvements for OJB's xdoclet module within the
> next few days (docs and license notes are up to date - did this a few
> ago) and then build an unofficial 1.5rc1 to give user the ability to
> test the upcoming 1.0.5 release before official release.
>
> > Why such a big gap in
> > releases?
>
> Lack of manpower (nobody wants to do the administrative stuff ;-)).
>
> > Are there still plans to ship 1.1?
>
> I started work on trunk/1.1?/2.0? and locally I have a lot of files to
> check in (1.0.x backports + new stuff) and many ideas in mind. But
> without support of other developer it's hard to realize.
>
> regards,
> Armin
>
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > -Sergey
> >
> >
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Re: what's with OJB Project?

[Abid Hussain <ab...@abid76.de>]

Hi,

I also would like to take the opportunity to say that OJB really is VERY 
stable and the configuration effort is tolerable.
I'm using it for about two years and till now never encountered a bug 
(hope this won't change!).
It's a great tool, and it's a pity that it seems to be so hard to 
develop it further.

Best regards,

Abid

Manukyan, Sergey schrieb:
> Folks,
> 
> It has been a while since last release of 1.0.4. I have been a user of
> ojb since 1.0.2... for about 4 years... but going forward concerns me.
> With no new releases I would like to ask how does the perspective looks
> for this project? Is work currently being done? Why such a big gap in
> releases? Are there still plans to ship 1.1?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> -Sergey


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Re: what's with OJB Project?

[Dennis Bekkering <dj...@gmail.com>]

Hello,

I also have been working with ojb for many years now and also worked with
hibernate but only when I have to. Ojb has a marketing problem but for me
that is not a problem. To tell you the truth there is nothing missing in
Ojb, it does exactly what I need, no more no less.

Best Regards,
Dennis

AW: what's with OJB Project?

["Längerich, Bernd" <B....@actosoft.de>]

Armin Waibel writes:

> Well, it depends on the community. Currently it seems that only a few 
> people are able to (interested in) spend time for OJB. I will 
> continue 
> my work on OJB.

I would like to say thank you for your efforts. I would also like to offer my best to support OJB in future but I have to check with the company policy first.
Maybe I can contribute to the project, as I already made some efforts to "enhance" OJB for our companies purposes.

Best regards
Bernd


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Re: what's with OJB Project?

[Armin Waibel <ar...@apache.org>]

Hi Sergey,

Manukyan, Sergey wrote:
> Folks,
> 
> It has been a while since last release of 1.0.4. I have been a user of
> ojb since 1.0.2... for about 4 years... but going forward concerns me.
> With no new releases I would like to ask how does the perspective looks
> for this project? 

Well, it depends on the community. Currently it seems that only a few 
people are able to (interested in) spend time for OJB. I will continue 
my work on OJB.

> Is work currently being done? 

Yep! Will check in some improvements for OJB's xdoclet module within the 
next few days (docs and license notes are up to date - did this a few 
ago) and then build an unofficial 1.5rc1 to give user the ability to 
test the upcoming 1.0.5 release before official release.

> Why such a big gap in
> releases? 

Lack of manpower (nobody wants to do the administrative stuff ;-)).

> Are there still plans to ship 1.1?

I started work on trunk/1.1?/2.0? and locally I have a lot of files to 
check in (1.0.x backports + new stuff) and many ideas in mind. But 
without support of other developer it's hard to realize.

regards,
Armin

> 
> Regards,
> 
> -Sergey
> 
> 
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