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Posted to dev@horaedb.apache.org by tison <wa...@gmail.com> on 2024/05/24 00:03:53 UTC
Re: What is sufficient Incubation notification for Git repos?
Hi,
This is a discussed topic at [1].
[1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/kxvdkrf8g8yr6hww1n08r21xdy67y4ok
I agree on the '(Incubating)' in the repo description part.
For the disclaimer part, [1] first had:
> I would be for requiring the incubator disclaimer text in the project's
> README.
But later Justin suggested [2]:
[2] https://lists.apache.org/thread/n1otdvff6fw14xmpjwlc8xy40dh0grms
> Alternatively, perhaps we can come up with something a little shorter
> shorter that points to DISCLAIMER? What is important is that the
> project is clearly understood to be an incubating p[project and
> what that means, rather than the exact wording.
I made a few preview candidates at [3].
[3] https://github.com/apache/incubator-fury/tree/tisonkun-patch-1.
So now, I think we can evaluate these opinions at HoraeDB's ticket [4] to
make a reference.
[4] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-25790
I can see that either:
1. Inline the DISCLAIMER content in the README; or,
2. Add a link to the '(Incubating)' words to the DISCLAIMER.
should work.
cc dev@horaedb.a.o for their information and participation. Please keep
general@incubator.o.o in cc.
Best,
tison.
Justin Mclean <jm...@apache.org> 于2024年5月24日周五 07:52写道：
> Hi,
>
> > Whilst the DISCLAIMER file is helpful, and having '(Incubating)' in
> > the repo description/About, neither of these are all that obvious.
>
> Yep, that should be done.
>
> > It seems to me that the repo README should also contain the Incubator
> > disclaimer, as is done on website pages.
>
> That is also my expectation.
>
> See for instance:
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-25790
>
> Kind Regards,
> Justin
>
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Re: What is sufficient Incubation notification for Git repos?
Posted by Dave Fisher <wa...@apache.org>.
I made the following comment on the PR, but will include it here as well.
> Looks reasonable and points to the important detail. I would only add that if the podling is releasing with DISCLAIMER-WIP that the linked DISCLAIMER should be the DISCLAIMER-WIP with that added information.
Best,
Dave
> On May 25, 2024, at 1:28 AM, tison <wa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> OK. My major intention is to sync the discussion to the list. If "lazy
> consensus" is too eager to use, I'm OK to make it clear that it's still
> encouraged for everyone on the list to give more inputs :D
>
> Best,
> tison.
>
>
> sebb <se...@gmail.com> 于2024年5月25日周六 16:26写道：
>
>> On Sat, 25 May 2024 at 09:10, tison <wa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> A lazy consensus is met at [1].
>>
>> Sorry, but I don't think it is correct to to use that designation here.
>>
>> I don't think the discussion has been open long enough to say that
>> consensus has been achieved, nor was there an explicit call for
>> opinions.
>> All one can say is that no objections have yet been raised so far.
>>
>>> I support Justin's opinion that "we were
>>> not too prescriptive on the exact wording". But this patch can be used
>> as a
>>> reference for a good starting point for other podlings.
>>
>> I agree it is a good starting point. But given how many places would
>> have to be updated if there are any subsequent objections, I think it
>> would be good to get some more opinions.
>>
>>> [1]
>>>
>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-horaedb/pull/1535#issuecomment-2130634831
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> tison.
>>>
>>>
>>> tison <wa...@gmail.com> 于2024年5月24日周五 13:16写道：
>>>
>>>> A concrete proposal for the HoraeDB situation:
>>>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-horaedb/pull/1535
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> tison.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> tison <wa...@gmail.com> 于2024年5月24日周五 08:03写道：
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> This is a discussed topic at [1].
>>>>>
>>>>> [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/kxvdkrf8g8yr6hww1n08r21xdy67y4ok
>>>>>
>>>>> I agree on the '(Incubating)' in the repo description part.
>>>>>
>>>>> For the disclaimer part, [1] first had:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I would be for requiring the incubator disclaimer text in the
>> project's
>>>>>> README.
>>>>>
>>>>> But later Justin suggested [2]:
>>>>>
>>>>> [2] https://lists.apache.org/thread/n1otdvff6fw14xmpjwlc8xy40dh0grms
>>>>>
>>>>>> Alternatively, perhaps we can come up with something a little
>> shorter
>>>>>> shorter that points to DISCLAIMER? What is important is that the
>>>>>> project is clearly understood to be an incubating p[project and
>>>>>> what that means, rather than the exact wording.
>>>>>
>>>>> I made a few preview candidates at [3].
>>>>>
>>>>> [3] https://github.com/apache/incubator-fury/tree/tisonkun-patch-1.
>>>>>
>>>>> So now, I think we can evaluate these opinions at HoraeDB's ticket
>> [4] to
>>>>> make a reference.
>>>>>
>>>>> [4] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-25790
>>>>>
>>>>> I can see that either:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. Inline the DISCLAIMER content in the README; or,
>>>>> 2. Add a link to the '(Incubating)' words to the DISCLAIMER.
>>>>>
>>>>> should work.
>>>>>
>>>>> cc dev@horaedb.a.o for their information and participation. Please
>> keep
>>>>> general@incubator.o.o in cc.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> tison.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Justin Mclean <jm...@apache.org> 于2024年5月24日周五 07:52写道：
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Whilst the DISCLAIMER file is helpful, and having '(Incubating)' in
>>>>>>> the repo description/About, neither of these are all that obvious.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yep, that should be done.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It seems to me that the repo README should also contain the
>> Incubator
>>>>>>> disclaimer, as is done on website pages.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That is also my expectation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> See for instance:
>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-25790
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kind Regards,
>>>>>> Justin
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org
>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>
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>>
Re: What is sufficient Incubation notification for Git repos?
Posted by Dave Fisher <wa...@apache.org>.
I made the following comment on the PR, but will include it here as well.
> Looks reasonable and points to the important detail. I would only add that if the podling is releasing with DISCLAIMER-WIP that the linked DISCLAIMER should be the DISCLAIMER-WIP with that added information.
Best,
Dave
> On May 25, 2024, at 1:28 AM, tison <wa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> OK. My major intention is to sync the discussion to the list. If "lazy
> consensus" is too eager to use, I'm OK to make it clear that it's still
> encouraged for everyone on the list to give more inputs :D
>
> Best,
> tison.
>
>
> sebb <se...@gmail.com> 于2024年5月25日周六 16:26写道：
>
>> On Sat, 25 May 2024 at 09:10, tison <wa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> A lazy consensus is met at [1].
>>
>> Sorry, but I don't think it is correct to to use that designation here.
>>
>> I don't think the discussion has been open long enough to say that
>> consensus has been achieved, nor was there an explicit call for
>> opinions.
>> All one can say is that no objections have yet been raised so far.
>>
>>> I support Justin's opinion that "we were
>>> not too prescriptive on the exact wording". But this patch can be used
>> as a
>>> reference for a good starting point for other podlings.
>>
>> I agree it is a good starting point. But given how many places would
>> have to be updated if there are any subsequent objections, I think it
>> would be good to get some more opinions.
>>
>>> [1]
>>>
>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-horaedb/pull/1535#issuecomment-2130634831
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> tison.
>>>
>>>
>>> tison <wa...@gmail.com> 于2024年5月24日周五 13:16写道：
>>>
>>>> A concrete proposal for the HoraeDB situation:
>>>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-horaedb/pull/1535
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> tison.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> tison <wa...@gmail.com> 于2024年5月24日周五 08:03写道：
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> This is a discussed topic at [1].
>>>>>
>>>>> [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/kxvdkrf8g8yr6hww1n08r21xdy67y4ok
>>>>>
>>>>> I agree on the '(Incubating)' in the repo description part.
>>>>>
>>>>> For the disclaimer part, [1] first had:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I would be for requiring the incubator disclaimer text in the
>> project's
>>>>>> README.
>>>>>
>>>>> But later Justin suggested [2]:
>>>>>
>>>>> [2] https://lists.apache.org/thread/n1otdvff6fw14xmpjwlc8xy40dh0grms
>>>>>
>>>>>> Alternatively, perhaps we can come up with something a little
>> shorter
>>>>>> shorter that points to DISCLAIMER? What is important is that the
>>>>>> project is clearly understood to be an incubating p[project and
>>>>>> what that means, rather than the exact wording.
>>>>>
>>>>> I made a few preview candidates at [3].
>>>>>
>>>>> [3] https://github.com/apache/incubator-fury/tree/tisonkun-patch-1.
>>>>>
>>>>> So now, I think we can evaluate these opinions at HoraeDB's ticket
>> [4] to
>>>>> make a reference.
>>>>>
>>>>> [4] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-25790
>>>>>
>>>>> I can see that either:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. Inline the DISCLAIMER content in the README; or,
>>>>> 2. Add a link to the '(Incubating)' words to the DISCLAIMER.
>>>>>
>>>>> should work.
>>>>>
>>>>> cc dev@horaedb.a.o for their information and participation. Please
>> keep
>>>>> general@incubator.o.o in cc.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> tison.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Justin Mclean <jm...@apache.org> 于2024年5月24日周五 07:52写道：
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Whilst the DISCLAIMER file is helpful, and having '(Incubating)' in
>>>>>>> the repo description/About, neither of these are all that obvious.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yep, that should be done.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It seems to me that the repo README should also contain the
>> Incubator
>>>>>>> disclaimer, as is done on website pages.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That is also my expectation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> See for instance:
>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-25790
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kind Regards,
>>>>>> Justin
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org
>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>
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>>
>>
Re: What is sufficient Incubation notification for Git repos?
Posted by tison <wa...@gmail.com>.
OK. My major intention is to sync the discussion to the list. If "lazy
consensus" is too eager to use, I'm OK to make it clear that it's still
encouraged for everyone on the list to give more inputs :D
Best,
tison.
sebb <se...@gmail.com> 于2024年5月25日周六 16:26写道：
> On Sat, 25 May 2024 at 09:10, tison <wa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > A lazy consensus is met at [1].
>
> Sorry, but I don't think it is correct to to use that designation here.
>
> I don't think the discussion has been open long enough to say that
> consensus has been achieved, nor was there an explicit call for
> opinions.
> All one can say is that no objections have yet been raised so far.
>
> > I support Justin's opinion that "we were
> > not too prescriptive on the exact wording". But this patch can be used
> as a
> > reference for a good starting point for other podlings.
>
> I agree it is a good starting point. But given how many places would
> have to be updated if there are any subsequent objections, I think it
> would be good to get some more opinions.
>
> > [1]
> >
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-horaedb/pull/1535#issuecomment-2130634831
> >
> > Best,
> > tison.
> >
> >
> > tison <wa...@gmail.com> 于2024年5月24日周五 13:16写道：
> >
> > > A concrete proposal for the HoraeDB situation:
> > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-horaedb/pull/1535
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > tison.
> > >
> > >
> > > tison <wa...@gmail.com> 于2024年5月24日周五 08:03写道：
> > >
> > >> Hi,
> > >>
> > >> This is a discussed topic at [1].
> > >>
> > >> [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/kxvdkrf8g8yr6hww1n08r21xdy67y4ok
> > >>
> > >> I agree on the '(Incubating)' in the repo description part.
> > >>
> > >> For the disclaimer part, [1] first had:
> > >>
> > >> > I would be for requiring the incubator disclaimer text in the
> project's
> > >> > README.
> > >>
> > >> But later Justin suggested [2]:
> > >>
> > >> [2] https://lists.apache.org/thread/n1otdvff6fw14xmpjwlc8xy40dh0grms
> > >>
> > >> > Alternatively, perhaps we can come up with something a little
> shorter
> > >> > shorter that points to DISCLAIMER? What is important is that the
> > >> > project is clearly understood to be an incubating p[project and
> > >> > what that means, rather than the exact wording.
> > >>
> > >> I made a few preview candidates at [3].
> > >>
> > >> [3] https://github.com/apache/incubator-fury/tree/tisonkun-patch-1.
> > >>
> > >> So now, I think we can evaluate these opinions at HoraeDB's ticket
> [4] to
> > >> make a reference.
> > >>
> > >> [4] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-25790
> > >>
> > >> I can see that either:
> > >>
> > >> 1. Inline the DISCLAIMER content in the README; or,
> > >> 2. Add a link to the '(Incubating)' words to the DISCLAIMER.
> > >>
> > >> should work.
> > >>
> > >> cc dev@horaedb.a.o for their information and participation. Please
> keep
> > >> general@incubator.o.o in cc.
> > >>
> > >> Best,
> > >> tison.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Justin Mclean <jm...@apache.org> 于2024年5月24日周五 07:52写道：
> > >>
> > >>> Hi,
> > >>>
> > >>> > Whilst the DISCLAIMER file is helpful, and having '(Incubating)' in
> > >>> > the repo description/About, neither of these are all that obvious.
> > >>>
> > >>> Yep, that should be done.
> > >>>
> > >>> > It seems to me that the repo README should also contain the
> Incubator
> > >>> > disclaimer, as is done on website pages.
> > >>>
> > >>> That is also my expectation.
> > >>>
> > >>> See for instance:
> > >>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-25790
> > >>>
> > >>> Kind Regards,
> > >>> Justin
> > >>>
> > >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org
> > >>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org
> > >>>
> > >>>
>
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>
>
Re: What is sufficient Incubation notification for Git repos?
Posted by tison <wa...@gmail.com>.
OK. My major intention is to sync the discussion to the list. If "lazy
consensus" is too eager to use, I'm OK to make it clear that it's still
encouraged for everyone on the list to give more inputs :D
Best,
tison.
sebb <se...@gmail.com> 于2024年5月25日周六 16:26写道：
> On Sat, 25 May 2024 at 09:10, tison <wa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > A lazy consensus is met at [1].
>
> Sorry, but I don't think it is correct to to use that designation here.
>
> I don't think the discussion has been open long enough to say that
> consensus has been achieved, nor was there an explicit call for
> opinions.
> All one can say is that no objections have yet been raised so far.
>
> > I support Justin's opinion that "we were
> > not too prescriptive on the exact wording". But this patch can be used
> as a
> > reference for a good starting point for other podlings.
>
> I agree it is a good starting point. But given how many places would
> have to be updated if there are any subsequent objections, I think it
> would be good to get some more opinions.
>
> > [1]
> >
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-horaedb/pull/1535#issuecomment-2130634831
> >
> > Best,
> > tison.
> >
> >
> > tison <wa...@gmail.com> 于2024年5月24日周五 13:16写道：
> >
> > > A concrete proposal for the HoraeDB situation:
> > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-horaedb/pull/1535
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > tison.
> > >
> > >
> > > tison <wa...@gmail.com> 于2024年5月24日周五 08:03写道：
> > >
> > >> Hi,
> > >>
> > >> This is a discussed topic at [1].
> > >>
> > >> [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/kxvdkrf8g8yr6hww1n08r21xdy67y4ok
> > >>
> > >> I agree on the '(Incubating)' in the repo description part.
> > >>
> > >> For the disclaimer part, [1] first had:
> > >>
> > >> > I would be for requiring the incubator disclaimer text in the
> project's
> > >> > README.
> > >>
> > >> But later Justin suggested [2]:
> > >>
> > >> [2] https://lists.apache.org/thread/n1otdvff6fw14xmpjwlc8xy40dh0grms
> > >>
> > >> > Alternatively, perhaps we can come up with something a little
> shorter
> > >> > shorter that points to DISCLAIMER? What is important is that the
> > >> > project is clearly understood to be an incubating p[project and
> > >> > what that means, rather than the exact wording.
> > >>
> > >> I made a few preview candidates at [3].
> > >>
> > >> [3] https://github.com/apache/incubator-fury/tree/tisonkun-patch-1.
> > >>
> > >> So now, I think we can evaluate these opinions at HoraeDB's ticket
> [4] to
> > >> make a reference.
> > >>
> > >> [4] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-25790
> > >>
> > >> I can see that either:
> > >>
> > >> 1. Inline the DISCLAIMER content in the README; or,
> > >> 2. Add a link to the '(Incubating)' words to the DISCLAIMER.
> > >>
> > >> should work.
> > >>
> > >> cc dev@horaedb.a.o for their information and participation. Please
> keep
> > >> general@incubator.o.o in cc.
> > >>
> > >> Best,
> > >> tison.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Justin Mclean <jm...@apache.org> 于2024年5月24日周五 07:52写道：
> > >>
> > >>> Hi,
> > >>>
> > >>> > Whilst the DISCLAIMER file is helpful, and having '(Incubating)' in
> > >>> > the repo description/About, neither of these are all that obvious.
> > >>>
> > >>> Yep, that should be done.
> > >>>
> > >>> > It seems to me that the repo README should also contain the
> Incubator
> > >>> > disclaimer, as is done on website pages.
> > >>>
> > >>> That is also my expectation.
> > >>>
> > >>> See for instance:
> > >>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-25790
> > >>>
> > >>> Kind Regards,
> > >>> Justin
> > >>>
> > >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org
> > >>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org
> > >>>
> > >>>
>
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>
>
Re: What is sufficient Incubation notification for Git repos?
Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.
On Sat, 25 May 2024 at 09:10, tison <wa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> A lazy consensus is met at [1].
Sorry, but I don't think it is correct to to use that designation here.
I don't think the discussion has been open long enough to say that
consensus has been achieved, nor was there an explicit call for
opinions.
All one can say is that no objections have yet been raised so far.
> I support Justin's opinion that "we were
> not too prescriptive on the exact wording". But this patch can be used as a
> reference for a good starting point for other podlings.
I agree it is a good starting point. But given how many places would
have to be updated if there are any subsequent objections, I think it
would be good to get some more opinions.
> [1]
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-horaedb/pull/1535#issuecomment-2130634831
>
> Best,
> tison.
>
>
> tison <wa...@gmail.com> 于2024年5月24日周五 13:16写道：
>
> > A concrete proposal for the HoraeDB situation:
> > https://github.com/apache/incubator-horaedb/pull/1535
> >
> > Best,
> > tison.
> >
> >
> > tison <wa...@gmail.com> 于2024年5月24日周五 08:03写道：
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> This is a discussed topic at [1].
> >>
> >> [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/kxvdkrf8g8yr6hww1n08r21xdy67y4ok
> >>
> >> I agree on the '(Incubating)' in the repo description part.
> >>
> >> For the disclaimer part, [1] first had:
> >>
> >> > I would be for requiring the incubator disclaimer text in the project's
> >> > README.
> >>
> >> But later Justin suggested [2]:
> >>
> >> [2] https://lists.apache.org/thread/n1otdvff6fw14xmpjwlc8xy40dh0grms
> >>
> >> > Alternatively, perhaps we can come up with something a little shorter
> >> > shorter that points to DISCLAIMER? What is important is that the
> >> > project is clearly understood to be an incubating p[project and
> >> > what that means, rather than the exact wording.
> >>
> >> I made a few preview candidates at [3].
> >>
> >> [3] https://github.com/apache/incubator-fury/tree/tisonkun-patch-1.
> >>
> >> So now, I think we can evaluate these opinions at HoraeDB's ticket [4] to
> >> make a reference.
> >>
> >> [4] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-25790
> >>
> >> I can see that either:
> >>
> >> 1. Inline the DISCLAIMER content in the README; or,
> >> 2. Add a link to the '(Incubating)' words to the DISCLAIMER.
> >>
> >> should work.
> >>
> >> cc dev@horaedb.a.o for their information and participation. Please keep
> >> general@incubator.o.o in cc.
> >>
> >> Best,
> >> tison.
> >>
> >>
> >> Justin Mclean <jm...@apache.org> 于2024年5月24日周五 07:52写道：
> >>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> > Whilst the DISCLAIMER file is helpful, and having '(Incubating)' in
> >>> > the repo description/About, neither of these are all that obvious.
> >>>
> >>> Yep, that should be done.
> >>>
> >>> > It seems to me that the repo README should also contain the Incubator
> >>> > disclaimer, as is done on website pages.
> >>>
> >>> That is also my expectation.
> >>>
> >>> See for instance:
> >>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-25790
> >>>
> >>> Kind Regards,
> >>> Justin
> >>>
> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org
> >>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org
> >>>
> >>>
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Re: What is sufficient Incubation notification for Git repos?
Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.
On Sat, 25 May 2024 at 09:10, tison <wa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> A lazy consensus is met at [1].
Sorry, but I don't think it is correct to to use that designation here.
I don't think the discussion has been open long enough to say that
consensus has been achieved, nor was there an explicit call for
opinions.
All one can say is that no objections have yet been raised so far.
> I support Justin's opinion that "we were
> not too prescriptive on the exact wording". But this patch can be used as a
> reference for a good starting point for other podlings.
I agree it is a good starting point. But given how many places would
have to be updated if there are any subsequent objections, I think it
would be good to get some more opinions.
> [1]
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-horaedb/pull/1535#issuecomment-2130634831
>
> Best,
> tison.
>
>
> tison <wa...@gmail.com> 于2024年5月24日周五 13:16写道：
>
> > A concrete proposal for the HoraeDB situation:
> > https://github.com/apache/incubator-horaedb/pull/1535
> >
> > Best,
> > tison.
> >
> >
> > tison <wa...@gmail.com> 于2024年5月24日周五 08:03写道：
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> This is a discussed topic at [1].
> >>
> >> [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/kxvdkrf8g8yr6hww1n08r21xdy67y4ok
> >>
> >> I agree on the '(Incubating)' in the repo description part.
> >>
> >> For the disclaimer part, [1] first had:
> >>
> >> > I would be for requiring the incubator disclaimer text in the project's
> >> > README.
> >>
> >> But later Justin suggested [2]:
> >>
> >> [2] https://lists.apache.org/thread/n1otdvff6fw14xmpjwlc8xy40dh0grms
> >>
> >> > Alternatively, perhaps we can come up with something a little shorter
> >> > shorter that points to DISCLAIMER? What is important is that the
> >> > project is clearly understood to be an incubating p[project and
> >> > what that means, rather than the exact wording.
> >>
> >> I made a few preview candidates at [3].
> >>
> >> [3] https://github.com/apache/incubator-fury/tree/tisonkun-patch-1.
> >>
> >> So now, I think we can evaluate these opinions at HoraeDB's ticket [4] to
> >> make a reference.
> >>
> >> [4] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-25790
> >>
> >> I can see that either:
> >>
> >> 1. Inline the DISCLAIMER content in the README; or,
> >> 2. Add a link to the '(Incubating)' words to the DISCLAIMER.
> >>
> >> should work.
> >>
> >> cc dev@horaedb.a.o for their information and participation. Please keep
> >> general@incubator.o.o in cc.
> >>
> >> Best,
> >> tison.
> >>
> >>
> >> Justin Mclean <jm...@apache.org> 于2024年5月24日周五 07:52写道：
> >>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> > Whilst the DISCLAIMER file is helpful, and having '(Incubating)' in
> >>> > the repo description/About, neither of these are all that obvious.
> >>>
> >>> Yep, that should be done.
> >>>
> >>> > It seems to me that the repo README should also contain the Incubator
> >>> > disclaimer, as is done on website pages.
> >>>
> >>> That is also my expectation.
> >>>
> >>> See for instance:
> >>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-25790
> >>>
> >>> Kind Regards,
> >>> Justin
> >>>
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Re: What is sufficient Incubation notification for Git repos?
Posted by tison <wa...@gmail.com>.
A lazy consensus is met at [1]. I support Justin's opinion that "we were
not too prescriptive on the exact wording". But this patch can be used as a
reference for a good starting point for other podlings.
[1]
https://github.com/apache/incubator-horaedb/pull/1535#issuecomment-2130634831
Best,
tison.
tison <wa...@gmail.com> 于2024年5月24日周五 13:16写道：
> A concrete proposal for the HoraeDB situation:
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-horaedb/pull/1535
>
> Best,
> tison.
>
>
> tison <wa...@gmail.com> 于2024年5月24日周五 08:03写道：
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> This is a discussed topic at [1].
>>
>> [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/kxvdkrf8g8yr6hww1n08r21xdy67y4ok
>>
>> I agree on the '(Incubating)' in the repo description part.
>>
>> For the disclaimer part, [1] first had:
>>
>> > I would be for requiring the incubator disclaimer text in the project's
>> > README.
>>
>> But later Justin suggested [2]:
>>
>> [2] https://lists.apache.org/thread/n1otdvff6fw14xmpjwlc8xy40dh0grms
>>
>> > Alternatively, perhaps we can come up with something a little shorter
>> > shorter that points to DISCLAIMER? What is important is that the
>> > project is clearly understood to be an incubating p[project and
>> > what that means, rather than the exact wording.
>>
>> I made a few preview candidates at [3].
>>
>> [3] https://github.com/apache/incubator-fury/tree/tisonkun-patch-1.
>>
>> So now, I think we can evaluate these opinions at HoraeDB's ticket [4] to
>> make a reference.
>>
>> [4] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-25790
>>
>> I can see that either:
>>
>> 1. Inline the DISCLAIMER content in the README; or,
>> 2. Add a link to the '(Incubating)' words to the DISCLAIMER.
>>
>> should work.
>>
>> cc dev@horaedb.a.o for their information and participation. Please keep
>> general@incubator.o.o in cc.
>>
>> Best,
>> tison.
>>
>>
>> Justin Mclean <jm...@apache.org> 于2024年5月24日周五 07:52写道：
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> > Whilst the DISCLAIMER file is helpful, and having '(Incubating)' in
>>> > the repo description/About, neither of these are all that obvious.
>>>
>>> Yep, that should be done.
>>>
>>> > It seems to me that the repo README should also contain the Incubator
>>> > disclaimer, as is done on website pages.
>>>
>>> That is also my expectation.
>>>
>>> See for instance:
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-25790
>>>
>>> Kind Regards,
>>> Justin
>>>
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org
>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org
>>>
>>>
Re: What is sufficient Incubation notification for Git repos?
Posted by tison <wa...@gmail.com>.
A lazy consensus is met at [1]. I support Justin's opinion that "we were
not too prescriptive on the exact wording". But this patch can be used as a
reference for a good starting point for other podlings.
[1]
https://github.com/apache/incubator-horaedb/pull/1535#issuecomment-2130634831
Best,
tison.
tison <wa...@gmail.com> 于2024年5月24日周五 13:16写道：
> A concrete proposal for the HoraeDB situation:
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-horaedb/pull/1535
>
> Best,
> tison.
>
>
> tison <wa...@gmail.com> 于2024年5月24日周五 08:03写道：
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> This is a discussed topic at [1].
>>
>> [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/kxvdkrf8g8yr6hww1n08r21xdy67y4ok
>>
>> I agree on the '(Incubating)' in the repo description part.
>>
>> For the disclaimer part, [1] first had:
>>
>> > I would be for requiring the incubator disclaimer text in the project's
>> > README.
>>
>> But later Justin suggested [2]:
>>
>> [2] https://lists.apache.org/thread/n1otdvff6fw14xmpjwlc8xy40dh0grms
>>
>> > Alternatively, perhaps we can come up with something a little shorter
>> > shorter that points to DISCLAIMER? What is important is that the
>> > project is clearly understood to be an incubating p[project and
>> > what that means, rather than the exact wording.
>>
>> I made a few preview candidates at [3].
>>
>> [3] https://github.com/apache/incubator-fury/tree/tisonkun-patch-1.
>>
>> So now, I think we can evaluate these opinions at HoraeDB's ticket [4] to
>> make a reference.
>>
>> [4] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-25790
>>
>> I can see that either:
>>
>> 1. Inline the DISCLAIMER content in the README; or,
>> 2. Add a link to the '(Incubating)' words to the DISCLAIMER.
>>
>> should work.
>>
>> cc dev@horaedb.a.o for their information and participation. Please keep
>> general@incubator.o.o in cc.
>>
>> Best,
>> tison.
>>
>>
>> Justin Mclean <jm...@apache.org> 于2024年5月24日周五 07:52写道：
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> > Whilst the DISCLAIMER file is helpful, and having '(Incubating)' in
>>> > the repo description/About, neither of these are all that obvious.
>>>
>>> Yep, that should be done.
>>>
>>> > It seems to me that the repo README should also contain the Incubator
>>> > disclaimer, as is done on website pages.
>>>
>>> That is also my expectation.
>>>
>>> See for instance:
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-25790
>>>
>>> Kind Regards,
>>> Justin
>>>
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org
>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org
>>>
>>>
Re: What is sufficient Incubation notification for Git repos?
Posted by tison <wa...@gmail.com>.
A concrete proposal for the HoraeDB situation:
https://github.com/apache/incubator-horaedb/pull/1535
Best,
tison.
tison <wa...@gmail.com> 于2024年5月24日周五 08:03写道：
> Hi,
>
> This is a discussed topic at [1].
>
> [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/kxvdkrf8g8yr6hww1n08r21xdy67y4ok
>
> I agree on the '(Incubating)' in the repo description part.
>
> For the disclaimer part, [1] first had:
>
> > I would be for requiring the incubator disclaimer text in the project's
> > README.
>
> But later Justin suggested [2]:
>
> [2] https://lists.apache.org/thread/n1otdvff6fw14xmpjwlc8xy40dh0grms
>
> > Alternatively, perhaps we can come up with something a little shorter
> > shorter that points to DISCLAIMER? What is important is that the
> > project is clearly understood to be an incubating p[project and
> > what that means, rather than the exact wording.
>
> I made a few preview candidates at [3].
>
> [3] https://github.com/apache/incubator-fury/tree/tisonkun-patch-1.
>
> So now, I think we can evaluate these opinions at HoraeDB's ticket [4] to
> make a reference.
>
> [4] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-25790
>
> I can see that either:
>
> 1. Inline the DISCLAIMER content in the README; or,
> 2. Add a link to the '(Incubating)' words to the DISCLAIMER.
>
> should work.
>
> cc dev@horaedb.a.o for their information and participation. Please keep
> general@incubator.o.o in cc.
>
> Best,
> tison.
>
>
> Justin Mclean <jm...@apache.org> 于2024年5月24日周五 07:52写道：
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> > Whilst the DISCLAIMER file is helpful, and having '(Incubating)' in
>> > the repo description/About, neither of these are all that obvious.
>>
>> Yep, that should be done.
>>
>> > It seems to me that the repo README should also contain the Incubator
>> > disclaimer, as is done on website pages.
>>
>> That is also my expectation.
>>
>> See for instance:
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-25790
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>> Justin
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org
>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org
>>
>>
Re: What is sufficient Incubation notification for Git repos?
Posted by tison <wa...@gmail.com>.
A concrete proposal for the HoraeDB situation:
https://github.com/apache/incubator-horaedb/pull/1535
Best,
tison.
tison <wa...@gmail.com> 于2024年5月24日周五 08:03写道：
> Hi,
>
> This is a discussed topic at [1].
>
> [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/kxvdkrf8g8yr6hww1n08r21xdy67y4ok
>
> I agree on the '(Incubating)' in the repo description part.
>
> For the disclaimer part, [1] first had:
>
> > I would be for requiring the incubator disclaimer text in the project's
> > README.
>
> But later Justin suggested [2]:
>
> [2] https://lists.apache.org/thread/n1otdvff6fw14xmpjwlc8xy40dh0grms
>
> > Alternatively, perhaps we can come up with something a little shorter
> > shorter that points to DISCLAIMER? What is important is that the
> > project is clearly understood to be an incubating p[project and
> > what that means, rather than the exact wording.
>
> I made a few preview candidates at [3].
>
> [3] https://github.com/apache/incubator-fury/tree/tisonkun-patch-1.
>
> So now, I think we can evaluate these opinions at HoraeDB's ticket [4] to
> make a reference.
>
> [4] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-25790
>
> I can see that either:
>
> 1. Inline the DISCLAIMER content in the README; or,
> 2. Add a link to the '(Incubating)' words to the DISCLAIMER.
>
> should work.
>
> cc dev@horaedb.a.o for their information and participation. Please keep
> general@incubator.o.o in cc.
>
> Best,
> tison.
>
>
> Justin Mclean <jm...@apache.org> 于2024年5月24日周五 07:52写道：
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> > Whilst the DISCLAIMER file is helpful, and having '(Incubating)' in
>> > the repo description/About, neither of these are all that obvious.
>>
>> Yep, that should be done.
>>
>> > It seems to me that the repo README should also contain the Incubator
>> > disclaimer, as is done on website pages.
>>
>> That is also my expectation.
>>
>> See for instance:
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-25790
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>> Justin
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org
>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org
>>
>>