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Proposal: JMeter 2.1.2 to drop support for Java 1.3
We had planned and announced that 2.1.2 would be the last release that
supported Java 1.3.
However it is proving tedious and time-consuming to fix JMeter so that
it compiles under Java 1.3.
We know from previous experience that it won't perform well under Java
1.3 - even if it can be built.
So I'd like to drop the support for Java 1.3.
If there are any major objections to this, please say so ASAP.
However supporting Java 1.3 is likely to delay the release
considerably (even more than it has been delayed already ...)
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Re: Proposal: JMeter 2.1.2 to drop support for Java 1.3
Posted by Eric Dalquist <er...@doit.wisc.edu>.
+1 from me, I don't see a need to maintain JDK1.3 support.
-Eric
Quasar wrote:
> Add me to the dropper list :)
>
> Giuseppe Calignano
>
>>> If there are any major objections to this, please say so ASAP.
>>>
>>> However supporting Java 1.3 is likely to delay the release
>>> considerably (even more than it has been delayed already ...)
>>>
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Re: Proposal: JMeter 2.1.2 to drop support for Java 1.3
Posted by Quasar <qu...@libero.it>.
Add me to the dropper list :)
Giuseppe Calignano
>> If there are any major objections to this, please say so ASAP.
>>
>> However supporting Java 1.3 is likely to delay the release
>> considerably (even more than it has been delayed already ...)
>>
>> S///
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Re: Proposal: JMeter 2.1.2 to drop support for Java 1.3
Posted by Peter Lin <wo...@gmail.com>.
+1 from me on dropping 1.3 support.
peter
On 6/4/06, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> We had planned and announced that 2.1.2 would be the last release that
> supported Java 1.3.
>
> However it is proving tedious and time-consuming to fix JMeter so that
> it compiles under Java 1.3.
>
> We know from previous experience that it won't perform well under Java
> 1.3 - even if it can be built.
>
> So I'd like to drop the support for Java 1.3.
>
> If there are any major objections to this, please say so ASAP.
>
> However supporting Java 1.3 is likely to delay the release
> considerably (even more than it has been delayed already ...)
>
> S///
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Re: Proposal: JMeter 2.1.2 to drop support for Java 1.3
Posted by Eric Dalquist <er...@doit.wisc.edu>.
-1 from me on dropping 1.4. I think the biggest driver is what the
developers want to do. Why are users of jMeter so concerned about JDK1.5
specific features? It runs under 1.5 from the users point of view thats
all that matters. Even though this is an open source project the
developers still have to consider their users. I don't believe the
features of 1.5 are compelling enough versus the number of users that
still use JDK1.4 and may not have a choice.
-Eric
Gaël LHEZ wrote:
> That like IE vs Firefox : "no, we won't code for Fx because IE is the most
> used" (the eternal debate against table layout vs css layout)
> Or like xhtml vs html "html is widely supported"
> Or php4 vs php5 "php4 is widely supported by server, so don't care 'bout it"
>
> That's sure that if no one start to use it (java1.5), then it will never
> develop.
>
>
>> Sorry, but IMHO this is exactly the opposite:
>> - *because* of Retroweaver people can use JDK 1.4, and developers of
>>
> JMeter have the comfort of using jdk 1.5.
>
>> This way, everybody is happy :).
>> Ahmed.
>>
>
> +1 :)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : sebb [mailto:sebbaz@gmail.com]
> Envoyé : mercredi 7 juin 2006 16:00
> À : JMeter Users List
> Objet : Re: Proposal: JMeter 2.1.2 to drop support for Java 1.3
>
> On 07/06/06, Ahmed Mohombe <am...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>>> Beside, you can compile for 1.4, and use 1.5?
>>>>
>>> JMeter is built on 1.3/1.4 and runs on 1.5.
>>>
>>> I'm not convinced it will be possible to build on 1.5 and still run on
>>>
> 1.4.
>
>> What about Retroweaver et co ? :
>> http://retroweaver.sourceforge.net/
>>
>>
>
> Yes, we know about that, and it could be a good solution for users who
> really need to run on Java 1.3.
>
> But I don't think it is sensible to force people to use 1.5 or Retroweaver
> given that 1.4 is still widely used.
>
> S.
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A repository for extensions/plugins?
Posted by Gaël LHEZ <gl...@glowria.fr>.
Hi,
I'm looking toward new plugin for jMeter, and I'd like to know if there was
some kind of plugin repository (at least, something better than google)
I'm looking for a component that would be like the Graph Result, meaning
that i'm looking for something showing the number of request per second
(which is the thoughput in Graph Result), and the average response time per
second (that, I don't know if it's the average shown in Graph Result). The
big problem with the Graph Result is when there is too much data : it draw
back on the left most data which is not very usefull.
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RE: Proposal: JMeter 2.1.2 to drop support for Java 1.3
Posted by Gaël LHEZ <gl...@glowria.fr>.
That like IE vs Firefox : "no, we won't code for Fx because IE is the most
used" (the eternal debate against table layout vs css layout)
Or like xhtml vs html "html is widely supported"
Or php4 vs php5 "php4 is widely supported by server, so don't care 'bout it"
That's sure that if no one start to use it (java1.5), then it will never
develop.
> Sorry, but IMHO this is exactly the opposite:
> - *because* of Retroweaver people can use JDK 1.4, and developers of
JMeter have the comfort of using jdk 1.5.
>
> This way, everybody is happy :).
> Ahmed.
+1 :)
-----Message d'origine-----
De : sebb [mailto:sebbaz@gmail.com]
Envoyé : mercredi 7 juin 2006 16:00
À : JMeter Users List
Objet : Re: Proposal: JMeter 2.1.2 to drop support for Java 1.3
On 07/06/06, Ahmed Mohombe <am...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> Beside, you can compile for 1.4, and use 1.5?
> >
> > JMeter is built on 1.3/1.4 and runs on 1.5.
> >
> > I'm not convinced it will be possible to build on 1.5 and still run on
1.4.
> What about Retroweaver et co ? :
> http://retroweaver.sourceforge.net/
>
Yes, we know about that, and it could be a good solution for users who
really need to run on Java 1.3.
But I don't think it is sensible to force people to use 1.5 or Retroweaver
given that 1.4 is still widely used.
S.
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Re: Proposal: JMeter 2.1.2 to drop support for Java 1.3
Posted by Ahmed Mohombe <am...@yahoo.com>.
>> >> Beside, you can compile for 1.4, and use 1.5?
>> >
>> > JMeter is built on 1.3/1.4 and runs on 1.5.
>> >
>> > I'm not convinced it will be possible to build on 1.5 and still run
>> on 1.4.
>> What about Retroweaver et co ? :
>> http://retroweaver.sourceforge.net/
>>
>
> Yes, we know about that, and it could be a good solution for users who
> really need to run on Java 1.3.
>
> But I don't think it is sensible to force people to use 1.5 or
> Retroweaver given that 1.4 is still widely used.
Sorry, but IMHO this is exactly the opposite:
- *because* of Retroweaver people can use JDK 1.4, and developers of JMeter
have the comfort of using jdk 1.5.
This way, everybody is happy :).
Ahmed.
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Re: Proposal: JMeter 2.1.2 to drop support for Java 1.3
Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.
On 07/06/06, Ahmed Mohombe <am...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> Beside, you can compile for 1.4, and use 1.5?
> >
> > JMeter is built on 1.3/1.4 and runs on 1.5.
> >
> > I'm not convinced it will be possible to build on 1.5 and still run on 1.4.
> What about Retroweaver et co ? :
> http://retroweaver.sourceforge.net/
>
Yes, we know about that, and it could be a good solution for users who
really need to run on Java 1.3.
But I don't think it is sensible to force people to use 1.5 or
Retroweaver given that 1.4 is still widely used.
S.
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Re: Proposal: JMeter 2.1.2 to drop support for Java 1.3
Posted by Ahmed Mohombe <am...@yahoo.com>.
>> Beside, you can compile for 1.4, and use 1.5?
>
> JMeter is built on 1.3/1.4 and runs on 1.5.
>
> I'm not convinced it will be possible to build on 1.5 and still run on 1.4.
What about Retroweaver et co ? :
http://retroweaver.sourceforge.net/
Ahmed.
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Re: Proposal: JMeter 2.1.2 to drop support for Java 1.3
Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.
On 05/06/06, Gaël LHEZ <gl...@glowria.fr> wrote:
> I really don't know why people are still using 1.4 ? (since I learned Java
> with 1.5)
>
> Generics are a great improvment, ...
Indeed.
> Beside, you can compile for 1.4, and use 1.5?
JMeter is built on 1.3/1.4 and runs on 1.5.
I'm not convinced it will be possible to build on 1.5 and still run on 1.4.
>
> (note that I make add on in 1.5, but I don't like to "cast" list/etc)
>
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : sebb [mailto:sebbaz@gmail.com]
> Envoyé : lundi 5 juin 2006 11:51
> À : JMeter Users List
> Objet : Re: Proposal: JMeter 2.1.2 to drop support for Java 1.3
>
> Unless that can be done without dropping 1.4 support, then no; it
> would cut out a large section of the user population (possibly the
> majority).
>
> And it needs to be possible to and build the code in Eclipse while
> still using the 1.4 libraries.
>
> But of course you can always use 1.5 to build your own add-ons.
>
> S.
> On 05/06/06, Gaël LHEZ <gl...@glowria.fr> wrote:
> > Could you also use generics in Jmeter (java 1.5 feature) which would
> clarify
> > the Java code, and avoid some errors... ? (like for the collection of
> > variable, which I have to cast each time..., etc)
> >
> > -----Message d'origine-----
> > De : sebb [mailto:sebbaz@gmail.com]
> > Envoyé : lundi 5 juin 2006 01:42
> > À : JMeter Users List; JMeter Developers List
> > Objet : Proposal: JMeter 2.1.2 to drop support for Java 1.3
> >
> > We had planned and announced that 2.1.2 would be the last release that
> > supported Java 1.3.
> >
> > However it is proving tedious and time-consuming to fix JMeter so that it
> > compiles under Java 1.3.
> >
> > We know from previous experience that it won't perform well under Java
> > 1.3 - even if it can be built.
> >
> > So I'd like to drop the support for Java 1.3.
> >
> > If there are any major objections to this, please say so ASAP.
> >
> > However supporting Java 1.3 is likely to delay the release considerably
> > (even more than it has been delayed already ...)
> >
> > S///
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RE: Proposal: JMeter 2.1.2 to drop support for Java 1.3
Posted by Gaël LHEZ <gl...@glowria.fr>.
I really don't know why people are still using 1.4 ? (since I learned Java
with 1.5)
Generics are a great improvment, ...
Beside, you can compile for 1.4, and use 1.5?
(note that I make add on in 1.5, but I don't like to "cast" list/etc)
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De : sebb [mailto:sebbaz@gmail.com]
Envoyé : lundi 5 juin 2006 11:51
À : JMeter Users List
Objet : Re: Proposal: JMeter 2.1.2 to drop support for Java 1.3
Unless that can be done without dropping 1.4 support, then no; it
would cut out a large section of the user population (possibly the
majority).
And it needs to be possible to and build the code in Eclipse while
still using the 1.4 libraries.
But of course you can always use 1.5 to build your own add-ons.
S.
On 05/06/06, Gaël LHEZ <gl...@glowria.fr> wrote:
> Could you also use generics in Jmeter (java 1.5 feature) which would
clarify
> the Java code, and avoid some errors... ? (like for the collection of
> variable, which I have to cast each time..., etc)
>
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : sebb [mailto:sebbaz@gmail.com]
> Envoyé : lundi 5 juin 2006 01:42
> À : JMeter Users List; JMeter Developers List
> Objet : Proposal: JMeter 2.1.2 to drop support for Java 1.3
>
> We had planned and announced that 2.1.2 would be the last release that
> supported Java 1.3.
>
> However it is proving tedious and time-consuming to fix JMeter so that it
> compiles under Java 1.3.
>
> We know from previous experience that it won't perform well under Java
> 1.3 - even if it can be built.
>
> So I'd like to drop the support for Java 1.3.
>
> If there are any major objections to this, please say so ASAP.
>
> However supporting Java 1.3 is likely to delay the release considerably
> (even more than it has been delayed already ...)
>
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Re: Proposal: JMeter 2.1.2 to drop support for Java 1.3
Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.
Unless that can be done without dropping 1.4 support, then no; it
would cut out a large section of the user population (possibly the
majority).
And it needs to be possible to and build the code in Eclipse while
still using the 1.4 libraries.
But of course you can always use 1.5 to build your own add-ons.
S.
On 05/06/06, Gaël LHEZ <gl...@glowria.fr> wrote:
> Could you also use generics in Jmeter (java 1.5 feature) which would clarify
> the Java code, and avoid some errors... ? (like for the collection of
> variable, which I have to cast each time..., etc)
>
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : sebb [mailto:sebbaz@gmail.com]
> Envoyé : lundi 5 juin 2006 01:42
> À : JMeter Users List; JMeter Developers List
> Objet : Proposal: JMeter 2.1.2 to drop support for Java 1.3
>
> We had planned and announced that 2.1.2 would be the last release that
> supported Java 1.3.
>
> However it is proving tedious and time-consuming to fix JMeter so that it
> compiles under Java 1.3.
>
> We know from previous experience that it won't perform well under Java
> 1.3 - even if it can be built.
>
> So I'd like to drop the support for Java 1.3.
>
> If there are any major objections to this, please say so ASAP.
>
> However supporting Java 1.3 is likely to delay the release considerably
> (even more than it has been delayed already ...)
>
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RE: Proposal: JMeter 2.1.2 to drop support for Java 1.3
Posted by Gaël LHEZ <gl...@glowria.fr>.
Could you also use generics in Jmeter (java 1.5 feature) which would clarify
the Java code, and avoid some errors... ? (like for the collection of
variable, which I have to cast each time..., etc)
-----Message d'origine-----
De : sebb [mailto:sebbaz@gmail.com]
Envoyé : lundi 5 juin 2006 01:42
À : JMeter Users List; JMeter Developers List
Objet : Proposal: JMeter 2.1.2 to drop support for Java 1.3
We had planned and announced that 2.1.2 would be the last release that
supported Java 1.3.
However it is proving tedious and time-consuming to fix JMeter so that it
compiles under Java 1.3.
We know from previous experience that it won't perform well under Java
1.3 - even if it can be built.
So I'd like to drop the support for Java 1.3.
If there are any major objections to this, please say so ASAP.
However supporting Java 1.3 is likely to delay the release considerably
(even more than it has been delayed already ...)
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