Feeling my oats this morning

[Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com>]

People love fanning flames...

	http://www.linuxuser.co.uk/opinion/apache-openoffice-who-knows-where-the-time-goes/

Re: Feeling my oats this morning

[Guy Waterval <wa...@gmail.com>]

Hi all,

2012/4/5 Jim Jagielski <ji...@jagunet.com>

>
> On Apr 5, 2012, at 10:29 AM, Rob Weir wrote:
> >
> > Finally, I think this project is very happy to talk to reporters who
> might
> > have questions when preparing an article. It is not an imposition.  It is
> > part of what Apache PMC's do. It is an easy way to avoid sloppy errors.
> >
>
> Yeppers... I seem to recall someone not on the PPMC saying that he
> rec'd queries from reporters about AOOo. I'm sure he's been relaying
> them to the right people here. Not doing so would be simply irresponsible.
>

 Why not to propose an official presentation of the project in different
languages, that people could publish for instance in the newsletter of
their Company, golf club, school, association or other (with a link to the
official web version). Of course such an article would not appear as a
marketting message but a pure information describing to people in an
accessible language to all, the philsophy of the Apache foundation, what is
the AOO project, what it can bring them in their daily activities. I think
that could be an interesting way to take the control of the communication
around the project and spread the word to the basis of the users. Moreover,
these publishing areas are free of charge, and their redactors are often
happy to find articles to publish.
Only an idea.

A+
-- 
gw

Re: Feeling my oats this morning

[Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com>]

On Apr 5, 2012, at 10:29 AM, Rob Weir wrote:
> 
> Finally, I think this project is very happy to talk to reporters who might
> have questions when preparing an article. It is not an imposition.  It is
> part of what Apache PMC's do. It is an easy way to avoid sloppy errors.
> 

Yeppers... I seem to recall someone not on the PPMC saying that he
rec'd queries from reporters about AOOo. I'm sure he's been relaying
them to the right people here. Not doing so would be simply irresponsible.

Re: Feeling my oats this morning

[Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>]

On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 10:03 AM, Jim Jagielski <ji...@jagunet.com> wrote:

> People love fanning flames...
>
>
> http://www.linuxuser.co.uk/opinion/apache-openoffice-who-knows-where-the-time-goes/
>
>
Cool, I just saw the movie "Quantum Apocalypse" last night.  Not a black
hole colliding with the Earth, but a "cloud of quarks" with similar
effect.   The movie was almost as poorly researched as that article you
link to.

First, the phrase "components that were either replaced or removed" is a
rhetorical device that probably has a fancy Greek name, but it is mixing
things with user impact with things that have no user impact.  You see this
device used by some advocacy groups to increase the impact of their
statements, like "Last year government statistics report that over
5,000,000 children were either murdered or had chickenpox".

Second, the author does not seem to understand the distinction between
category-b and category-x licenses and how they are treated at Apache.  For
example, Hunspell is category-b, so it is included in our binary packages.
It is not lost, as the author claims.

Third, several of the replacements we made are actually beneficial to the
user, giving better functionality or security.  For example, our solver
replacement (CoinMP) has been rated higher by researchers than the GPL
component that we are replacing.

As for who has the wind in their sails, etc.  We're more of a battleship
than a sailboat.  We're slow to turn, but once we get steaming we make our
own wind.

Finally, I think this project is very happy to talk to reporters who might
have questions when preparing an article. It is not an imposition.  It is
part of what Apache PMC's do. It is an easy way to avoid sloppy errors.

-Rob