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Posted to dev@lucy.apache.org by Chris Hostetter <ho...@fucit.org> on 2010/08/05 23:46:43 UTC
Incubator PMC/Board report for August 2010 (general@incubator.apache.org)
(fwd)
FYI: Although missing from this email, the next board meeting is "Wed, 18
August 2010, 12 pm Pacific" which means we need a Lucy Report for hte
Incubator PMC by August 11.
Now would be a good time for Marvin & Simon to update the Lucy Project
status page (Since nate and peter are still waiting for accounts), and use
that as a basis for the board report indicating how the incubation process
is progressing, and what the next steps are...
http://incubator.apache.org/projects/lucy.html
I, personally, have kind of lost track of what the next steps are, and
where we are at ... other then giving nate & peter svn karam once their
accounts are created, is there anything remaining in the process that
needs "Mentor karma" ?
-Hoss
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Dear Lucy Developers,
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It is an initial reminder to give you plenty of time to prepare your quarterly
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The board meeting is scheduled for . The report
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requires your report to be submitted one week before the board meeting, to allow
sufficient time for review.
Please submit your report with sufficient time to allow the incubator PMC, and
subsequently board members to review and digest. Again, the very latest you
should submit your report is one week prior to the board meeting.
Thanks,
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* Your project name
* A brief description of your project, which assumes no knowledge of the project
or necessarily of its field
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graduation.
* Any issues that the Incubator PMC or ASF Board might wish/need to be aware of
* How has the community developed since the last report
* How has the project developed since the last report.
This should be appended to the Incubator Wiki page at:
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[lucy-dev] Re: Incubator PMC/Board report for August 2010 (general@incubator.apache.org) (fwd)
Posted by Marvin Humphrey <ma...@rectangular.com>.
On Fri, Aug 06, 2010 at 11:21:47AM -0700, Chris Hostetter wrote:
> Over in LUCENE-2563 we'll track setting up a redirect once the new Lucy
> website is in place.
>
> The existing forrest site for Lucy has so many refs to Lucene and no refs
> to being in the Incubator or the migration of KinoSearch's codebase/user
> to the incubator that it almost seems better to completley avoid trying to
> re-use that website ... it seems like more trouble then it would be worth.
>
> My suggestion: For now, just put up a single static HTML page
> containing...
>
> 1) a short explanation about hte migration to the Incubator and the plan
> to adopt KinoSearch code base / community
> 2) link to http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/LucyProposal
> 3) link to http://incubator.apache.org/projects/lucy.html
> 4) link to https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/lucy/
> 5) info about existing lucy mailing lists and that people should
> subscribe there until the new mailing lists are created.
>
> ...cranking that out would probably be faster/easier then trying to update
> the old forrest one to have the same info.
Done.
http://incubator.apache.org/lucy/
Marvin Humphrey
Re: Incubator PMC/Board report for August 2010
(general@incubator.apache.org)
Posted by "Mattmann, Chris A (388J)" <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>.
Hey Hoss,
> There still seem like several that should be marked completed (or possibly
> just "NA" since no action was needed) ...
>
> * If request from an existing Apache project to adopt an external
> package, then ask the Apache project for the SVN module and mail address
> names. (NA)
> * If request from outside Apache to enter an existing Apache project,
> then post a message to that project for them to decide on acceptance.
> (DONE)
>
> * Ask infrastructure to set up issue tracker (JIRA, Bugzilla). (NA/DONE)
> * Ask infrastructure to set up wiki (Confluence, Moin). (NA/DONE)
+1
> The existing forrest site for Lucy has so many refs to Lucene and no refs
> to being in the Incubator or the migration of KinoSearch's codebase/user
> to the incubator that it almost seems better to completley avoid trying to
> re-use that website ... it seems like more trouble then it would be worth.
>
> My suggestion: For now, just put up a single static HTML page
> containing...
>
> 1) a short explanation about hte migration to the Incubator and the plan
> to adopt KinoSearch code base / community
> 2) link to http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/LucyProposal
> 3) link to http://incubator.apache.org/projects/lucy.html
> 4) link to https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/lucy/
> 5) info about existing lucy mailing lists and that people should
> subscribe there until the new mailing lists are created.
Big +1.
Cheers,
Chris
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
Senior Computer Scientist
NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
Email: Chris.Mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov
WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Re: Incubator PMC/Board report for August 2010 (general@incubator.apache.org)
(fwd)
Posted by Chris Hostetter <ho...@fucit.org>.
: OK, I've checked in the file with several items marked as completed.
There still seem like several that should be marked completed (or possibly
just "NA" since no action was needed) ...
* If request from an existing Apache project to adopt an external
package, then ask the Apache project for the SVN module and mail address
names. (NA)
* If request from outside Apache to enter an existing Apache project,
then post a message to that project for them to decide on acceptance.
(DONE)
* Ask infrastructure to set up issue tracker (JIRA, Bugzilla). (NA/DONE)
* Ask infrastructure to set up wiki (Confluence, Moin). (NA/DONE)
: There's also the question of what happens to the pages at
: <http://lucene.apache.org/lucy/> -- should they redirect? If that's the case,
: then it would be convenient to perform the svn move, mod the existing Forrest
: content and publish the new site, then ask infra to put the redirect in place.
: So whatever the case, we're waiting on the svn migration for moving forward on
: the project website.
Over in LUCENE-2563 we'll track setting up a redirect once the new Lucy
website is in place.
The existing forrest site for Lucy has so many refs to Lucene and no refs
to being in the Incubator or the migration of KinoSearch's codebase/user
to the incubator that it almost seems better to completley avoid trying to
re-use that website ... it seems like more trouble then it would be worth.
My suggestion: For now, just put up a single static HTML page
containing...
1) a short explanation about hte migration to the Incubator and the plan
to adopt KinoSearch code base / community
2) link to http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/LucyProposal
3) link to http://incubator.apache.org/projects/lucy.html
4) link to https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/lucy/
5) info about existing lucy mailing lists and that people should
subscribe there until the new mailing lists are created.
...cranking that out would probably be faster/easier then trying to update
the old forrest one to have the same info.
: I don't think I know for sure that all Mentors are subscribed to
: private@incubator.a.o, though you're obviously all on the general@ list.
With mike's verification on IRC this morning that he would subscribe,
that should be everyone.
-Hoss
Re: Incubator PMC/Board report for August 2010 (general@incubator.apache.org)
Posted by Michael McCandless <lu...@mikemccandless.com>.
Report looks good Marvin! I signed off too.
Mike
On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 8:20 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
<ch...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Aug 06, 2010 at 10:02:26AM +0100, Upayavira wrote:
>>> If you are in the 'incubator' group on people.a.o, you'll be able to do an
>>> svn up on the relevant directory to 'publish' when you've changed the source
>>> file in SVN. If you're not in the incubator group, as on infrastructure@ to
>>> be added.
>>
>> I couldn't publish, so it seems I'm not in the 'incubator' group and I'll need
>> to ask.
>>
>> We're going to get accounts for Peter and Nate any day now, though, I expect.
>> Nate's probably going to be too busy in the near term to update the website,
>> but I'd like Peter to get this karma, too. I hate going back to Infra with
>> tiny little requests over and over again, so if it's not a big deal, I'll wait
>> until we can make a bundled request.
>
> +1.
>
> Cheers,
> Chris
>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
> Senior Computer Scientist
> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
> Email: Chris.Mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov
> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
>
>
Re: Incubator PMC/Board report for August 2010
(general@incubator.apache.org)
Posted by Chris Hostetter <ho...@fucit.org>.
: > If you are in the 'incubator' group on people.a.o, you'll be able to do an
: > svn up on the relevant directory to 'publish' when you've changed the source
...
: I couldn't publish, so it seems I'm not in the 'incubator' group and I'll need
: to ask.
:
: We're going to get accounts for Peter and Nate any day now, though, I expect.
: Nate's probably going to be too busy in the near term to update the website,
: but I'd like Peter to get this karma, too. I hate going back to Infra with
Grr.... i'm pretty sure that since the new account requests are under the
auspicus of the Incubator PMC that nate and peter will automaticly be in
the incubator group ... for some reason i forgot about unix groups before
(and was only thinking in terms of svn karma) otherwise i would have
already requested the incubator group access for you and simon.
holding off on requesting it until name and peter's accounts come in so we
can do it all at once (just in case) is fair ... in theory those accounts
should have already been made. i inquired on #asfinfra last week and joe
said they were on his queue and were possibly going to happen that night
... i kind of figured even worst case scenerio of a bunch of shit blowing
up it would happen over the weekend, but now i have no idea again.
In the meantime: don't be shy to update the project file or create a
page for hte website -- just send a ping email and i'll happily "svn up"
for you on people.a.o every hour all day long (assuming i'm online).
-Hoss
Re: Incubator PMC/Board report for August 2010
(general@incubator.apache.org)
Posted by "Mattmann, Chris A (388J)" <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>.
> On Fri, Aug 06, 2010 at 10:02:26AM +0100, Upayavira wrote:
>> If you are in the 'incubator' group on people.a.o, you'll be able to do an
>> svn up on the relevant directory to 'publish' when you've changed the source
>> file in SVN. If you're not in the incubator group, as on infrastructure@ to
>> be added.
>
> I couldn't publish, so it seems I'm not in the 'incubator' group and I'll need
> to ask.
>
> We're going to get accounts for Peter and Nate any day now, though, I expect.
> Nate's probably going to be too busy in the near term to update the website,
> but I'd like Peter to get this karma, too. I hate going back to Infra with
> tiny little requests over and over again, so if it's not a big deal, I'll wait
> until we can make a bundled request.
+1.
Cheers,
Chris
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
Senior Computer Scientist
NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
Email: Chris.Mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov
WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Re: Incubator PMC/Board report for August 2010 (general@incubator.apache.org)
Posted by Marvin Humphrey <ma...@rectangular.com>.
On Fri, Aug 06, 2010 at 10:02:26AM +0100, Upayavira wrote:
> If you are in the 'incubator' group on people.a.o, you'll be able to do an
> svn up on the relevant directory to 'publish' when you've changed the source
> file in SVN. If you're not in the incubator group, as on infrastructure@ to
> be added.
I couldn't publish, so it seems I'm not in the 'incubator' group and I'll need
to ask.
We're going to get accounts for Peter and Nate any day now, though, I expect.
Nate's probably going to be too busy in the near term to update the website,
but I'd like Peter to get this karma, too. I hate going back to Infra with
tiny little requests over and over again, so if it's not a big deal, I'll wait
until we can make a bundled request.
Marvin Humphrey
Re: Incubator PMC/Board report for August 2010
(general@incubator.apache.org)
Posted by Upayavira <uv...@odoko.co.uk>.
A non-thorough response - all looks good. I'm on both private@ and
general@. Marvin,
you should see if you are able to maintain that status page yourself.
There's no
reason why you shouldn't. If you are in the 'incubator' group on
people.a.o, you'll
be able to do an svn up on the relevant directory to 'publish' when
you've changed
the source file in SVN. If you're not in the incubator group, as on
infrastructure@
to be added.
Upayavira
On Thu, 05 Aug 2010 21:01 -0700, "Mattmann, Chris A (388J)"
<ch...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
> Hi Marvin,
>
> >
> > There is an action item under Mentors:
> >
> > Tell Mentors to track progress in the file
> > 'incubator/projects/{project.name}.html'
> >
> > /me clears throat.
> >
> > "Mentors, please track progress in the file 'incubator/projects/lucy.html'."
> >
> > /me marks said action item as completed.
> >
> > OK, I've checked in the file with several items marked as completed.
>
> Looks like you took care of this in r982830, right? Looking at the rev
> (others see here [1]), looks good to me, +1.
>
>
> >
> >> I, personally, have kind of lost track of what the next steps are, and
> >> where we are at ... other then giving nate & peter svn karam once their
> >> accounts are created, is there anything remaining in the process that
> >> needs "Mentor karma" ?
> >
> > I might technically have the karma to perform the svn migration for the
> > existing Lucy Lucene subproject codebase to the Incubator space, but I don't
> > believe that's my prerogative.
>
> I'll svn copy the source right now. As I'm not longer a Lucene PMC
> member, I
> don't have karma to svn move the codebase (Hoss can svn remove it after I
> copy it).
>
> >
> > There's also the question of what happens to the pages at
> > <http://lucene.apache.org/lucy/> -- should they redirect?
>
> My suggestion, add a redirect, and remove the site content from SVN in
> Lucene-ville. We'll have a copy of it, in Incubator-ville.
>
>
> > If that's the case,
> > then it would be convenient to perform the svn move, mod the existing Forrest
> > content and publish the new site, then ask infra to put the redirect in place.
>
> No worries on this. Anyone with Lucene PMC karma (Hoss) can take care of
> this by modifying this file [2]. A redirect rule like the Tika one would
> be
> good.
>
> > So whatever the case, we're waiting on the svn migration for moving forward on
> > the project website.
>
> Like I said, I'll take care of it.
>
> >
> > Additionally, there's the following action item:
> >
> > Subscribe all Mentors on the pmc and general lists.
> >
> > I don't think I know for sure that all Mentors are subscribed to
> > private@incubator.a.o, though you're obviously all on the general@ list.
>
> I'm on private@incubator, and on general@ incubator, so you can cross me
> on
> the list.
>
> >
> > I think that's it as far as items requiring Mentor karma.
>
> Nice, and thorough job, Marvin. I'll reply to this email with a revision
> #
> after the SVN copy in a sec.
>
> Cheers,
> Chris
>
> [1]
> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/public/trunk/site-author/projects/luc
> y.xml?r1=982830&r2=982829&pathrev=982830
>
> [2] http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/lucene/site/publish/.htaccess
>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
> Senior Computer Scientist
> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
> Email: Chris.Mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov
> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
>
Re: Incubator PMC/Board report for August 2010
(general@incubator.apache.org)
Posted by "Mattmann, Chris A (388J)" <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>.
You rox!
Cheers,
Chris
On 8/6/10 11:09 AM, "Chris Hostetter" <ho...@fucit.org> wrote:
: Hoss, can you remove the Lucene copy?
Done.
-Hoss
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
Senior Computer Scientist
NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
Email: Chris.Mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov
WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Re: Incubator PMC/Board report for August 2010
(general@incubator.apache.org)
Posted by Chris Hostetter <ho...@fucit.org>.
: Hoss, can you remove the Lucene copy?
Done.
-Hoss
Re: Incubator PMC/Board report for August 2010
(general@incubator.apache.org)
Posted by "Mattmann, Chris A (388J)" <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>.
FYI, the Lucy SVN area has been created in the Incubator in r982976, r982977, r982978 and r982980.
Hoss, can you remove the Lucene copy?
Cheers,
Chris
On 8/5/10 9:01 PM, "Mattmann, Chris A (388J)" <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
Hi Marvin,
>
> There is an action item under Mentors:
>
> Tell Mentors to track progress in the file
> 'incubator/projects/{project.name}.html'
>
> /me clears throat.
>
> "Mentors, please track progress in the file 'incubator/projects/lucy.html'."
>
> /me marks said action item as completed.
>
> OK, I've checked in the file with several items marked as completed.
Looks like you took care of this in r982830, right? Looking at the rev
(others see here [1]), looks good to me, +1.
>
>> I, personally, have kind of lost track of what the next steps are, and
>> where we are at ... other then giving nate & peter svn karam once their
>> accounts are created, is there anything remaining in the process that
>> needs "Mentor karma" ?
>
> I might technically have the karma to perform the svn migration for the
> existing Lucy Lucene subproject codebase to the Incubator space, but I don't
> believe that's my prerogative.
I'll svn copy the source right now. As I'm not longer a Lucene PMC member, I
don't have karma to svn move the codebase (Hoss can svn remove it after I
copy it).
>
> There's also the question of what happens to the pages at
> <http://lucene.apache.org/lucy/> -- should they redirect?
My suggestion, add a redirect, and remove the site content from SVN in
Lucene-ville. We'll have a copy of it, in Incubator-ville.
> If that's the case,
> then it would be convenient to perform the svn move, mod the existing Forrest
> content and publish the new site, then ask infra to put the redirect in place.
No worries on this. Anyone with Lucene PMC karma (Hoss) can take care of
this by modifying this file [2]. A redirect rule like the Tika one would be
good.
> So whatever the case, we're waiting on the svn migration for moving forward on
> the project website.
Like I said, I'll take care of it.
>
> Additionally, there's the following action item:
>
> Subscribe all Mentors on the pmc and general lists.
>
> I don't think I know for sure that all Mentors are subscribed to
> private@incubator.a.o, though you're obviously all on the general@ list.
I'm on private@incubator, and on general@ incubator, so you can cross me on
the list.
>
> I think that's it as far as items requiring Mentor karma.
Nice, and thorough job, Marvin. I'll reply to this email with a revision #
after the SVN copy in a sec.
Cheers,
Chris
[1]
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/public/trunk/site-author/projects/luc
y.xml?r1=982830&r2=982829&pathrev=982830
[2] http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/lucene/site/publish/.htaccess
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
Senior Computer Scientist
NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
Email: Chris.Mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov
WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
Senior Computer Scientist
NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
Email: Chris.Mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov
WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Re: Incubator PMC/Board report for August 2010
(general@incubator.apache.org)
Posted by "Mattmann, Chris A (388J)" <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>.
Hi Marvin,
>
> There is an action item under Mentors:
>
> Tell Mentors to track progress in the file
> 'incubator/projects/{project.name}.html'
>
> /me clears throat.
>
> "Mentors, please track progress in the file 'incubator/projects/lucy.html'."
>
> /me marks said action item as completed.
>
> OK, I've checked in the file with several items marked as completed.
Looks like you took care of this in r982830, right? Looking at the rev
(others see here [1]), looks good to me, +1.
>
>> I, personally, have kind of lost track of what the next steps are, and
>> where we are at ... other then giving nate & peter svn karam once their
>> accounts are created, is there anything remaining in the process that
>> needs "Mentor karma" ?
>
> I might technically have the karma to perform the svn migration for the
> existing Lucy Lucene subproject codebase to the Incubator space, but I don't
> believe that's my prerogative.
I'll svn copy the source right now. As I'm not longer a Lucene PMC member, I
don't have karma to svn move the codebase (Hoss can svn remove it after I
copy it).
>
> There's also the question of what happens to the pages at
> <http://lucene.apache.org/lucy/> -- should they redirect?
My suggestion, add a redirect, and remove the site content from SVN in
Lucene-ville. We'll have a copy of it, in Incubator-ville.
> If that's the case,
> then it would be convenient to perform the svn move, mod the existing Forrest
> content and publish the new site, then ask infra to put the redirect in place.
No worries on this. Anyone with Lucene PMC karma (Hoss) can take care of
this by modifying this file [2]. A redirect rule like the Tika one would be
good.
> So whatever the case, we're waiting on the svn migration for moving forward on
> the project website.
Like I said, I'll take care of it.
>
> Additionally, there's the following action item:
>
> Subscribe all Mentors on the pmc and general lists.
>
> I don't think I know for sure that all Mentors are subscribed to
> private@incubator.a.o, though you're obviously all on the general@ list.
I'm on private@incubator, and on general@ incubator, so you can cross me on
the list.
>
> I think that's it as far as items requiring Mentor karma.
Nice, and thorough job, Marvin. I'll reply to this email with a revision #
after the SVN copy in a sec.
Cheers,
Chris
[1]
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/public/trunk/site-author/projects/luc
y.xml?r1=982830&r2=982829&pathrev=982830
[2] http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/lucene/site/publish/.htaccess
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
Senior Computer Scientist
NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
Email: Chris.Mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov
WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
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Re: Incubator PMC/Board report for August 2010 (general@incubator.apache.org) (fwd)
Posted by Marvin Humphrey <ma...@rectangular.com>.
On Thu, Aug 05, 2010 at 02:46:43PM -0700, Chris Hostetter wrote:
> Now would be a good time for Marvin & Simon to update the Lucy Project
> status page (Since nate and peter are still waiting for accounts)
There is an action item under Mentors:
Tell Mentors to track progress in the file
'incubator/projects/{project.name}.html'
/me clears throat.
"Mentors, please track progress in the file 'incubator/projects/lucy.html'."
/me marks said action item as completed.
OK, I've checked in the file with several items marked as completed.
> I, personally, have kind of lost track of what the next steps are, and
> where we are at ... other then giving nate & peter svn karam once their
> accounts are created, is there anything remaining in the process that
> needs "Mentor karma" ?
I might technically have the karma to perform the svn migration for the
existing Lucy Lucene subproject codebase to the Incubator space, but I don't
believe that's my prerogative.
There's also the question of what happens to the pages at
<http://lucene.apache.org/lucy/> -- should they redirect? If that's the case,
then it would be convenient to perform the svn move, mod the existing Forrest
content and publish the new site, then ask infra to put the redirect in place.
So whatever the case, we're waiting on the svn migration for moving forward on
the project website.
Additionally, there's the following action item:
Subscribe all Mentors on the pmc and general lists.
I don't think I know for sure that all Mentors are subscribed to
private@incubator.a.o, though you're obviously all on the general@ list.
I think that's it as far as items requiring Mentor karma.
Marvin Humphrey
Re: [lucy-dev] Re: Incubator PMC/Board report for August 2010
(general@incubator.apache.org)
Posted by "Mattmann, Chris A (388J)" <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>.
(dropping lucy-dev@lucene.a.o as folks should be migrating to the new lists)
+1 to Hoss's comments...
Cheers,
Chris
On 8/13/10 2:57 PM, "Chris Hostetter" <ho...@fucit.org> wrote:
: I have not started the formal paperwork. What I have been doing is assembling
: materials and the list of people who must participate in the grant. This is
: something of an involved process, since KinoSearch is large and has been around
Understood ... my point was that this is the type of thing that
should be mentioned in board reports -- even if it's just to say:
"in process of assembling materials and the list of people who must
participate in software grant for KinoSearch"
the assimilation of KinoSearch is a huge part of Lucy's incubation, so the
current status towards that in should probably be mentioned in every board
report -- even if no concrete milestones have been achieved yet.
: Anybody have pointers to mailing list archives where complex provenance
: efforts like this one were undertaken?
I would *definitely* ask about this on general@incubator ... this kind of
"how have other podlines dealt with this?" type question is (as i
understand it) exactly what that list is for.
-Hoss
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[lucy-dev] Re: Incubator PMC/Board report for August 2010
(general@incubator.apache.org)
Posted by Chris Hostetter <ho...@fucit.org>.
: I have not started the formal paperwork. What I have been doing is assembling
: materials and the list of people who must participate in the grant. This is
: something of an involved process, since KinoSearch is large and has been around
Understood ... my point was that this is the type of thing that
should be mentioned in board reports -- even if it's just to say:
"in process of assembling materials and the list of people who must
participate in software grant for KinoSearch"
the assimilation of KinoSearch is a huge part of Lucy's incubation, so the
current status towards that in should probably be mentioned in every board
report -- even if no concrete milestones have been achieved yet.
: Anybody have pointers to mailing list archives where complex provenance
: efforts like this one were undertaken?
I would *definitely* ask about this on general@incubator ... this kind of
"how have other podlines dealt with this?" type question is (as i
understand it) exactly what that list is for.
-Hoss
Re: Incubator PMC/Board report for August 2010 (general@incubator.apache.org)
Posted by Marvin Humphrey <ma...@rectangular.com>.
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 11:28:10PM -0700, Chris Hostetter wrote:
> : OK, I've entered our report for August.
> :
> : http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/August2010#Lucy
>
> I went ahead and signed off because nothing in the report looks wrong to
> me, but i was a little suprised by something i thought would be in the
> report...
>
> Marvin: didn't you mention a little while back that you had started on
> the IP Clearance paperwork for the existing KinoSearch code base?
> Shouldn't that be a line item (either as a "making progress" bullet point,
> or as a "need assistence" bullet point)
I have not started the formal paperwork. What I have been doing is assembling
materials and the list of people who must participate in the grant. This is
something of an involved process, since KinoSearch is large and has been around
a while. Prior to the current Subversion repository, it had lived in four
different CVS repositories, the first of which also housed proprietary data
for my employer at the time. One of the things I've been doing is migrating
all of the KinoSearch pre-history into a single Subversion repository to
make browsing easier.
On some level, it would make more sense to start with the provenance audit and
only send out the paperwork after it is finished. That way, if during the
provenance effort an attribution irregularity or surprise presents itself, it
won't be necessary to go back to everyone for another round. For instance,
while going over the history, I've realized that since the current
KinoSearch::Util::SortExternal module began life as a stripped down version of
my CPAN module Sort::External, Sort::External's history has to be checked to
see if anyone else needs to be included in the grant, as the past contributors
to that module wouldn't necessarily have been listed in the KinoSearch version
control logs or issue tracker. It would be most inconvenient to find that
someone had been left out after the fact.
However, without a grant, I don't think we can import a snapshot into Apache's
repository. So it's a bit of a catch-22.
Anybody have pointers to mailing list archives where complex provenance
efforts like this one were undertaken?
Marvin Humphrey
Re: Incubator PMC/Board report for August 2010
(general@incubator.apache.org)
Posted by Chris Hostetter <ho...@fucit.org>.
: OK, I've entered our report for August.
:
: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/August2010#Lucy
I went ahead and signed off because nothing in the report looks wrong to
me, but i was a little suprised by something i thought would be in the
report...
Marvin: didn't you mention a little while back that you had started on
the IP Clearance paperwork for the existing KinoSearch code base?
Shouldn't that be a line item (either as a "making progress" bullet point,
or as a "need assistence" bullet point)
(Note to other mentors: something that keeps slipping my mind is that even
though "Lucy" was a Lucene sub project, the "big picture" issues with
"The Lucy Podling" are the absorbsion of the KinoSearch code base and the
KinoSearch community ... we need to keep that in mind while guiding
momentum)
-Hoss
Re: Incubator PMC/Board report for August 2010
(general@incubator.apache.org)
Posted by "Mattmann, Chris A (388J)" <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>.
Marvin, report looks good +1 from me (I signed off on the wiki too).
Cheers,
Chris
On 8/8/10 4:02 PM, "Marvin Humphrey" <ma...@rectangular.com> wrote:
On Fri, Aug 06, 2010 at 11:25:20AM -0700, Chris Hostetter wrote:
>
> : Here are some examples of OODT ones that we've filed so we can get an idea
> : of the template. I usually just copy a prior report, fill in the new
> : content, and then save it to the wiki and send an email to the mailing
> : lists, asking for others to help:
> :
> : http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/May2010#OODT
> : http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/June2010#OODT
>
> Probably the most illustrative would be OODT's first Board Report, since
> that would be with OODT was in roughly the same stage of incubation...
>
> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/February2010#OODT
OK, I've entered our report for August.
http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/August2010#Lucy
I used OODT's Board Reports as templates, except that I made sure not to use
wiki markup. ;)
http://markmail.org/message/d7yc7bwyb7r3mlko
AGAIN, A REMINDER: *DO NOT* use any wiki markup, other than the = Project =
seperator or lists.
(Sorry for the sporadic progress this last week, had health issues...)
Marvin Humphrey
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Senior Computer Scientist
NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
Email: Chris.Mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov
WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
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University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
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Re: Incubator PMC/Board report for August 2010 (general@incubator.apache.org)
Posted by Marvin Humphrey <ma...@rectangular.com>.
On Fri, Aug 06, 2010 at 11:25:20AM -0700, Chris Hostetter wrote:
>
> : Here are some examples of OODT ones that we've filed so we can get an idea
> : of the template. I usually just copy a prior report, fill in the new
> : content, and then save it to the wiki and send an email to the mailing
> : lists, asking for others to help:
> :
> : http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/May2010#OODT
> : http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/June2010#OODT
>
> Probably the most illustrative would be OODT's first Board Report, since
> that would be with OODT was in roughly the same stage of incubation...
>
> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/February2010#OODT
OK, I've entered our report for August.
http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/August2010#Lucy
I used OODT's Board Reports as templates, except that I made sure not to use
wiki markup. ;)
http://markmail.org/message/d7yc7bwyb7r3mlko
AGAIN, A REMINDER: *DO NOT* use any wiki markup, other than the = Project =
seperator or lists.
(Sorry for the sporadic progress this last week, had health issues...)
Marvin Humphrey
Re: Incubator PMC/Board report for August 2010
(general@incubator.apache.org)
Posted by "Mattmann, Chris A (388J)" <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>.
Yepper!
On 8/6/10 11:25 AM, "Chris Hostetter" <ho...@fucit.org> wrote:
: Here are some examples of OODT ones that we've filed so we can get an idea
: of the template. I usually just copy a prior report, fill in the new
: content, and then save it to the wiki and send an email to the mailing
: lists, asking for others to help:
:
: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/May2010#OODT
: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/June2010#OODT
Probably the most illustrative would be OODT's first Board Report, since
that would be with OODT was in roughly the same stage of incubation...
http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/February2010#OODT
-Hoss
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Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
Senior Computer Scientist
NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
Email: Chris.Mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov
WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
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Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
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Re: Incubator PMC/Board report for August 2010
(general@incubator.apache.org)
Posted by Chris Hostetter <ho...@fucit.org>.
: Here are some examples of OODT ones that we've filed so we can get an idea
: of the template. I usually just copy a prior report, fill in the new
: content, and then save it to the wiki and send an email to the mailing
: lists, asking for others to help:
:
: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/May2010#OODT
: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/June2010#OODT
Probably the most illustrative would be OODT's first Board Report, since
that would be with OODT was in roughly the same stage of incubation...
http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/February2010#OODT
-Hoss
Re: Incubator PMC/Board report for August 2010
(general@incubator.apache.org)
Posted by "Mattmann, Chris A (388J)" <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>.
Hey Hoss,
> FYI: Although missing from this email, the next board meeting is "Wed, 18
> August 2010, 12 pm Pacific" which means we need a Lucy Report for hte
> Incubator PMC by August 11.
Thanks for the reminder.
>
> Now would be a good time for Marvin & Simon to update the Lucy Project
> status page (Since nate and peter are still waiting for accounts), and use
> that as a basis for the board report indicating how the incubation process
> is progressing, and what the next steps are...
Yep, looks like he took care of it in r982830.
> I, personally, have kind of lost track of what the next steps are, and
> where we are at ... other then giving nate & peter svn karam once their
> accounts are created, is there anything remaining in the process that
> needs "Mentor karma" ?
We need new Incubator mailing lists. That issue is here [1]. I've asked Gav
to move forward, barring any objections.
Also, FYI to all, Incubator board reports are filed here:
http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/August2010
Noel aggregates the wiki into plain text, and then sends that to board@ as
an Incubator total report.
Our Lucy one would be here:
http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/August2010#Lucy
Here are some examples of OODT ones that we've filed so we can get an idea
of the template. I usually just copy a prior report, fill in the new
content, and then save it to the wiki and send an email to the mailing
lists, asking for others to help:
http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/May2010#OODT
http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/June2010#OODT
Cheers,
Chris
[1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-2901
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Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
Senior Computer Scientist
NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
Email: Chris.Mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov
WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
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Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
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