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Posted to dev@oltu.apache.org by Shane Curcuru <as...@shanecurcuru.org> on 2018/02/21 19:46:16 UTC
Re: Apache Oltu - time for the Attic?
(Note mixed private/public lists cc += board@)
Please note that the board is putting a formal resolution on our next
month's board meeting (21-March) to move the Oltu project to the Apache
Attic. This is due to the low activity and lack of sufficient PMC
oversight on a regular basis to maintain the project properly.
Thanks to PMC members who have responded to board questions about this.
* What This Means:
- Shortly after 21-March the Apache Attic PMC will start turning all
resources for the Oltu project to be read-only.
- The Attic will then place a marker on the top of all oltu.apache.org
web pages noting they're read only and retired.
- All code, past mailing lists, wikis, etc. will still be at the same
URLs, but all read-only (i.e. no new emails, no code commits).
This means that the world is free to continue to use all oltu code and
resources under the Apache license, but the ASF and the project won't be
doing any further development here. The ASF will maintain all the
existing URLs, so that people can still rely on them.
Does that make sense?
Thanks to the Oltu committers for all their work in the past!
On 2017/10/25 07:56:46, Antonio Sanso <as...@adobe.com.INVALID> wrote:
> hi *,
>
> as pointed out in the last board reports the last months have been awfully quiet.
> We have some patches laying around for a while, not a lot of participation to discussions in the mailing list.
> One of the reason is also due the fact OAuth is a protocol that is pretty stable.
> The other reason is that the team members that are active are busy/demotivated.
> One of the options discussed in the last board meeting was to move Apache Oltu to the Attic (due the low activity here).
> How would you feel about it? Do you think Apache Oltu has still something to “say”? Or we are happy to move to the Attic?
>
> Please let us know your opinion
>
> regards
>
> antonio
>
> [0] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OLTU/Feb2017
--
- Shane
Director, Apache Software Foundation
Re: Apache Oltu - time for the Attic?
Posted by Antonio Sanso <as...@adobe.com.INVALID>.
thanks a lot !
On Feb 21, 2018, at 9:09 PM, Shane Curcuru <as...@shanecurcuru.org> wrote:
> Antonio Sanso wrote on 2/21/18 2:52 PM:
>> hi Shane,
>>
>> thanks a lot . It makes sense . We voted to move to Attic few weeks ago.
>> Is it fine id we do last release before moving though ?
>
> Yes, please! As long as you follow the proper release policy and have
> three PMC members vote +1 on the release, that's a great idea.
>
> If you can truly show that *PMC members* are active enough, the board is
> likely to be willing to delay the vote to move to the attic, if that's
> needed to complete a last release. But not too long.
>
> Thanks!
>
>
> --
>
> - Shane
> https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/resources
>
>>
>> This will make sense IMHO…
>>
>> regards
>>
>> antonio
>>
>> On Feb 21, 2018, at 8:46 PM, Shane Curcuru <as...@shanecurcuru.org> wrote:
>>
>>> (Note mixed private/public lists cc += board@)
>>>
>>> Please note that the board is putting a formal resolution on our next
>>> month's board meeting (21-March) to move the Oltu project to the Apache
>>> Attic. This is due to the low activity and lack of sufficient PMC
>>> oversight on a regular basis to maintain the project properly.
>>>
>>> Thanks to PMC members who have responded to board questions about this.
>>>
>>> * What This Means:
>>>
>>> - Shortly after 21-March the Apache Attic PMC will start turning all
>>> resources for the Oltu project to be read-only.
>>>
>>> - The Attic will then place a marker on the top of all oltu.apache.org
>>> web pages noting they're read only and retired.
>>>
>>> - All code, past mailing lists, wikis, etc. will still be at the same
>>> URLs, but all read-only (i.e. no new emails, no code commits).
>>>
>>> This means that the world is free to continue to use all oltu code and
>>> resources under the Apache license, but the ASF and the project won't be
>>> doing any further development here. The ASF will maintain all the
>>> existing URLs, so that people can still rely on them.
>>>
>>> Does that make sense?
>>>
>>> Thanks to the Oltu committers for all their work in the past!
>>>
>>> On 2017/10/25 07:56:46, Antonio Sanso <as...@adobe.com.INVALID> wrote:
>>>> hi *,
>>>>
>>>> as pointed out in the last board reports the last months have been awfully quiet.
>>>> We have some patches laying around for a while, not a lot of participation to discussions in the mailing list.
>>>> One of the reason is also due the fact OAuth is a protocol that is pretty stable.
>>>> The other reason is that the team members that are active are busy/demotivated.
>>>> One of the options discussed in the last board meeting was to move Apache Oltu to the Attic (due the low activity here).
>>>> How would you feel about it? Do you think Apache Oltu has still something to “say”? Or we are happy to move to the Attic?
>>>>
>>>> Please let us know your opinion
>>>>
>>>> regards
>>>>
>>>> antonio
>>>>
>>>> [0] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OLTU/Feb2017
>>> --
>>>
>>> - Shane
>>> Director, Apache Software Foundation
>>
>
Re: Apache Oltu - time for the Attic?
Posted by Shane Curcuru <as...@shanecurcuru.org>.
Antonio Sanso wrote on 2/21/18 2:52 PM:
> hi Shane,
>
> thanks a lot . It makes sense . We voted to move to Attic few weeks ago.
> Is it fine id we do last release before moving though ?
Yes, please! As long as you follow the proper release policy and have
three PMC members vote +1 on the release, that's a great idea.
If you can truly show that *PMC members* are active enough, the board is
likely to be willing to delay the vote to move to the attic, if that's
needed to complete a last release. But not too long.
Thanks!
--
- Shane
https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/resources
>
> This will make sense IMHO…
>
> regards
>
> antonio
>
> On Feb 21, 2018, at 8:46 PM, Shane Curcuru <as...@shanecurcuru.org> wrote:
>
>> (Note mixed private/public lists cc += board@)
>>
>> Please note that the board is putting a formal resolution on our next
>> month's board meeting (21-March) to move the Oltu project to the Apache
>> Attic. This is due to the low activity and lack of sufficient PMC
>> oversight on a regular basis to maintain the project properly.
>>
>> Thanks to PMC members who have responded to board questions about this.
>>
>> * What This Means:
>>
>> - Shortly after 21-March the Apache Attic PMC will start turning all
>> resources for the Oltu project to be read-only.
>>
>> - The Attic will then place a marker on the top of all oltu.apache.org
>> web pages noting they're read only and retired.
>>
>> - All code, past mailing lists, wikis, etc. will still be at the same
>> URLs, but all read-only (i.e. no new emails, no code commits).
>>
>> This means that the world is free to continue to use all oltu code and
>> resources under the Apache license, but the ASF and the project won't be
>> doing any further development here. The ASF will maintain all the
>> existing URLs, so that people can still rely on them.
>>
>> Does that make sense?
>>
>> Thanks to the Oltu committers for all their work in the past!
>>
>> On 2017/10/25 07:56:46, Antonio Sanso <as...@adobe.com.INVALID> wrote:
>>> hi *,
>>>
>>> as pointed out in the last board reports the last months have been awfully quiet.
>>> We have some patches laying around for a while, not a lot of participation to discussions in the mailing list.
>>> One of the reason is also due the fact OAuth is a protocol that is pretty stable.
>>> The other reason is that the team members that are active are busy/demotivated.
>>> One of the options discussed in the last board meeting was to move Apache Oltu to the Attic (due the low activity here).
>>> How would you feel about it? Do you think Apache Oltu has still something to “say”? Or we are happy to move to the Attic?
>>>
>>> Please let us know your opinion
>>>
>>> regards
>>>
>>> antonio
>>>
>>> [0] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OLTU/Feb2017
>> --
>>
>> - Shane
>> Director, Apache Software Foundation
>
Re: Apache Oltu - time for the Attic?
Posted by Antonio Sanso <as...@adobe.com.INVALID>.
hi Shane,
thanks a lot . It makes sense . We voted to move to Attic few weeks ago.
Is it fine id we do last release before moving though ?
This will make sense IMHO…
regards
antonio
On Feb 21, 2018, at 8:46 PM, Shane Curcuru <as...@shanecurcuru.org> wrote:
> (Note mixed private/public lists cc += board@)
>
> Please note that the board is putting a formal resolution on our next
> month's board meeting (21-March) to move the Oltu project to the Apache
> Attic. This is due to the low activity and lack of sufficient PMC
> oversight on a regular basis to maintain the project properly.
>
> Thanks to PMC members who have responded to board questions about this.
>
> * What This Means:
>
> - Shortly after 21-March the Apache Attic PMC will start turning all
> resources for the Oltu project to be read-only.
>
> - The Attic will then place a marker on the top of all oltu.apache.org
> web pages noting they're read only and retired.
>
> - All code, past mailing lists, wikis, etc. will still be at the same
> URLs, but all read-only (i.e. no new emails, no code commits).
>
> This means that the world is free to continue to use all oltu code and
> resources under the Apache license, but the ASF and the project won't be
> doing any further development here. The ASF will maintain all the
> existing URLs, so that people can still rely on them.
>
> Does that make sense?
>
> Thanks to the Oltu committers for all their work in the past!
>
> On 2017/10/25 07:56:46, Antonio Sanso <as...@adobe.com.INVALID> wrote:
>> hi *,
>>
>> as pointed out in the last board reports the last months have been awfully quiet.
>> We have some patches laying around for a while, not a lot of participation to discussions in the mailing list.
>> One of the reason is also due the fact OAuth is a protocol that is pretty stable.
>> The other reason is that the team members that are active are busy/demotivated.
>> One of the options discussed in the last board meeting was to move Apache Oltu to the Attic (due the low activity here).
>> How would you feel about it? Do you think Apache Oltu has still something to “say”? Or we are happy to move to the Attic?
>>
>> Please let us know your opinion
>>
>> regards
>>
>> antonio
>>
>> [0] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OLTU/Feb2017
> --
>
> - Shane
> Director, Apache Software Foundation