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Posted to dev@forrest.apache.org by "Andrew C. Oliver" <ac...@apache.org> on 2002/11/12 01:13:56 UTC
Re: @apache web pages
I'd also like to get a central forrest generator set up. I had thought
daedalus was the proper
place to do that, but perhaps cvs.apache.org is.
I can hack forrest to provide this.. But What I need is:
1. A BSD spelunker with enough patience to get a copy of java 1.4
running or MAYBE a copy of 1.3.1.
Because Forrest doesn't work with 1.3.0
(http://www.freeroller.net/page/acoliver/20021109#apache_forrest_free_bsd_and)...
(I'm hoping it might work with 1.3.1)
I can't do the patch sets because my personal ambitious or lack of
knowledge as to what my future ambitions
might be, preclude me from agreeing to the NDA with sun necessary to
download the java sourcecode to patch.
2. crontab. I did some calculations here
(http://www.freeroller.net/page/acoliver/20021109#apache_forrest_free_bsd_and)
and
the process should be fairly benign and light weight.
The advantage is that anyone using forrest could have their pages
generated from ONE central running copy of forrest. We won't
have 60-300 ssh demons running remotely uploading pages opening up
security holes... and its just good clean infrastructure!
I'll demonstrate lack of impact on the server, and get blessings from
people on "infrastructure" etc before scheduling this of course.
Any volunteers for #1? Any forresters willing to help me out spelunking
forrest?
-Andy
Rodent of Unusual Size wrote:
>someone (andy?) started a trend of setting up personal
>web pages at cvs.apache.org (that being where all committers
>have accounts) and i'd like to refresh the idea in everyone's
>mind 'cuz i think it's a good one; help us get familiar with
>each other a bit, maybe.
>
>just put something in cvs.apache.org:$HOME/public_html .. from
>looking at it, there are almost 60 people who have at least
>set up the directory, if not put useful stuff in it.
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Re: @apache web pages
Posted by David Crossley <cr...@apache.org>.
Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
> I'd also like to get a central forrest generator set up.
> I had thought daedalus was the proper
> place to do that, but perhaps cvs.apache.org is.
>
> I can hack forrest to provide this.. But What I need is:
Steady on, Andy. I can understand you being excited by
the possibilities, but steady on.
We have been developing solutions to these very issues
on forrest-dev and we have mechanisms to cope with such
infrastructure realities. Remember, that Apache is not
the only place to have restricted facilities - many of
our own private and business websites do too, e.g. lack of
Java, heavy load, restricted crontab, ...
So we have had the use-case for a long time.
Forrest has mechanisms to deal with it. For example
forrestbot can draw content from remote CVS, generate website,
and publish the result onto another machine. The curliest
issue is the last stage. We can already do 'scp'. A future
method could be 'rsync put over ssh'.
In the meantime, please follow the method outlined at
my homepage cvs.apache.org/~crossley/publish.html
Andy, thanks for extending the scope of this thread - we
definitely do need to discuss these issues. However, please
familiarise with Forrest and build upon the solutions that
we have. We have already ruled out the dynamic generation on
current daedalus and icarus machines. Hence the evolution
of forrestbot.
--David
Re: @apache web pages
Posted by David Crossley <cr...@indexgeo.com.au>.
Sam Ruby wrote:
> Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
> > no statically generated. Basically committer dirs are registered in a
> > config file and then the forrest goes and
> > generates them all.
> >
> > yes. Only I envisioned it in cvs.
>
> Given this, why must Forrest run on icarus or daedalus? For example, I
> could run it on the machine that does the Gump runs and upload the results.
>
> - Sam Ruby
Excellent idea, you founding Forrest member :-)
"Forrest Gump" does ring a bell.
--David
Re: @apache web pages
Posted by Nicola Ken Barozzi <ni...@apache.org>.
Sam Ruby wrote:
> Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
>
>> no statically generated. Basically committer dirs are registered in a
>> config file and then the forrest goes and
>> generates them all.
>>
>> yes. Only I envisioned it in cvs.
>
>
> Given this, why must Forrest run on icarus or daedalus? For example, I
> could run it on the machine that does the Gump runs and upload the results.
My dear Sam, we have talked about this months ago, I'd be happy to see
it finally work.
Here is about the <deliver> tag
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=alexandria-dev&m=101663118301864&w=2
And this about us waiting for you ;-P
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=alexandria-dev&m=101678966312036&w=2
/Nicola Ken:/ Ok, now how do I get the POI site to get updated?
/Stefan Bodewig:/ As soon as Sam feels the stuff is ready for him
to give it a try.
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Re: @apache web pages
Posted by "Andrew C. Oliver" <ac...@apache.org>.
Sam Ruby wrote:
> Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
>
>> no statically generated. Basically committer dirs are registered in
>> a config file and then the forrest goes and
>> generates them all.
>>
>> yes. Only I envisioned it in cvs.
>
>
> Given this, why must Forrest run on icarus or daedalus? For example,
> I could run it on the machine that does the Gump runs and upload the
> results.
Thats fine with me. Do you have time to set this up? What do you need
from me to help make this happen?
>
> - Sam Ruby
>
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Re: @apache web pages
Posted by Sam Ruby <ru...@apache.org>.
Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
> no statically generated. Basically committer dirs are registered in a
> config file and then the forrest goes and
> generates them all.
>
> yes. Only I envisioned it in cvs.
Given this, why must Forrest run on icarus or daedalus? For example, I
could run it on the machine that does the Gump runs and upload the results.
- Sam Ruby
Re: @apache web pages
Posted by Rodent of Unusual Size <Ke...@Golux.Com>.
Ovidiu Predescu wrote:
>
> Or a script can identify what are the users that have home pages and
> generates the directory page automatically. This way there is no need
> to modify a config file, new users are automatically added once they
> have their home pages setup.
heh, done in prototype. see my earlier mail.
Re: @apache web pages
Posted by Ovidiu Predescu <ov...@apache.org>.
On Monday, Nov 11, 2002, at 18:10 US/Pacific, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
>> Do you mean live Forrest webapps running in Tomcat? That would need a
>> separate port, or mod_jk/mod_webapp hacking.. and lots of mem
>> permanently
>> allocated.. I think statically generated would be better :)
>>
> no statically generated. Basically committer dirs are registered in a
> config file and then the forrest goes and
> generates them all.
Or a script can identify what are the users that have home pages and
generates the directory page automatically. This way there is no need
to modify a config file, new users are automatically added once they
have their home pages setup.
Regards,
--
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http://webweavertech.com/ovidiu/weblog/
Re: @apache web pages
Posted by "Andrew C. Oliver" <ac...@apache.org>.
>
>
>
>Do you mean live Forrest webapps running in Tomcat? That would need a
>separate port, or mod_jk/mod_webapp hacking.. and lots of mem permanently
>allocated.. I think statically generated would be better :)
>
>
no statically generated. Basically committer dirs are registered in a
config file and then the forrest goes and
generates them all.
>
>
>>We won't
>>have 60-300 ssh demons running remotely uploading pages opening up
>>security holes... and its just good clean infrastructure!
>>
>>
>
>How about:
>
> - providing a standard Forrest install in /usr/local/forrest
> - putting /usr/local/forrest/bin in the PATH
>
>Then the process of creating a home page on icarus is:
>
>mkdir ~/homesite
>cd ~/homesite
>cat >> forrest.properties << EOF
>project.site-dir=${user.home}/public_html
>EOF
>forrest seed # Generates a template project
>vim src/documentation/content/xdocs/*.xml # Add content
>forrest # Generate HTML from XML
>
>
>It takes Forrest 49 secs to render a basic site on my box. I don't think
>there's any need for a cron-driven system, as most people would need to
>regenerate very rarely.
>
>One possibility of a centralized system is that we could automatically
>include a 'People' tab, linking to other committers' home pages. The
>source for people.xml would have to be a publicly editable file in
>/var/forrest/ or somewhere.
>
>
yes. Only I envisioned it in cvs.
-Andy
>
>--Jeff
>
>
>
>>-Andy
>>
>>
>>
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Re: @apache web pages
Posted by Jeff Turner <je...@apache.org>.
On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 07:13:56PM -0500, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
> I'd also like to get a central forrest generator set up. I had thought
> daedalus was the proper
> place to do that, but perhaps cvs.apache.org is.
>
> I can hack forrest to provide this.. But What I need is:
>
> 2. crontab. I did some calculations here
> (http://www.freeroller.net/page/acoliver/20021109#apache_forrest_free_bsd_and)
> and
> the process should be fairly benign and light weight.
>
> The advantage is that anyone using forrest could have their pages
> generated from ONE central running copy of forrest.
Do you mean live Forrest webapps running in Tomcat? That would need a
separate port, or mod_jk/mod_webapp hacking.. and lots of mem permanently
allocated.. I think statically generated would be better :)
> We won't
> have 60-300 ssh demons running remotely uploading pages opening up
> security holes... and its just good clean infrastructure!
How about:
- providing a standard Forrest install in /usr/local/forrest
- putting /usr/local/forrest/bin in the PATH
Then the process of creating a home page on icarus is:
mkdir ~/homesite
cd ~/homesite
cat >> forrest.properties << EOF
project.site-dir=${user.home}/public_html
EOF
forrest seed # Generates a template project
vim src/documentation/content/xdocs/*.xml # Add content
forrest # Generate HTML from XML
It takes Forrest 49 secs to render a basic site on my box. I don't think
there's any need for a cron-driven system, as most people would need to
regenerate very rarely.
One possibility of a centralized system is that we could automatically
include a 'People' tab, linking to other committers' home pages. The
source for people.xml would have to be a publicly editable file in
/var/forrest/ or somewhere.
--Jeff
>
> -Andy
>
Re: @apache web pages
Posted by Jeff Turner <je...@apache.org>.
On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 07:13:56PM -0500, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
> I'd also like to get a central forrest generator set up. I had thought
> daedalus was the proper
> place to do that, but perhaps cvs.apache.org is.
>
> I can hack forrest to provide this.. But What I need is:
>
> 2. crontab. I did some calculations here
> (http://www.freeroller.net/page/acoliver/20021109#apache_forrest_free_bsd_and)
> and
> the process should be fairly benign and light weight.
>
> The advantage is that anyone using forrest could have their pages
> generated from ONE central running copy of forrest.
Do you mean live Forrest webapps running in Tomcat? That would need a
separate port, or mod_jk/mod_webapp hacking.. and lots of mem permanently
allocated.. I think statically generated would be better :)
> We won't
> have 60-300 ssh demons running remotely uploading pages opening up
> security holes... and its just good clean infrastructure!
How about:
- providing a standard Forrest install in /usr/local/forrest
- putting /usr/local/forrest/bin in the PATH
Then the process of creating a home page on icarus is:
mkdir ~/homesite
cd ~/homesite
cat >> forrest.properties << EOF
project.site-dir=${user.home}/public_html
EOF
forrest seed # Generates a template project
vim src/documentation/content/xdocs/*.xml # Add content
forrest # Generate HTML from XML
It takes Forrest 49 secs to render a basic site on my box. I don't think
there's any need for a cron-driven system, as most people would need to
regenerate very rarely.
One possibility of a centralized system is that we could automatically
include a 'People' tab, linking to other committers' home pages. The
source for people.xml would have to be a publicly editable file in
/var/forrest/ or somewhere.
--Jeff
>
> -Andy
>
Re: @apache web pages
Posted by Steven Noels <st...@outerthought.org>.
Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
> The advantage is that anyone using forrest could have their pages
> generated from ONE central running copy of forrest. We won't have
> 60-300 ssh demons running remotely uploading pages opening up
> security holes... and its just good clean infrastructure!
>
> I'll demonstrate lack of impact on the server, and get blessings from
> people on "infrastructure" etc before scheduling this of course.
>
> Any volunteers for #1? Any forresters willing to help me out
> spelunking forrest?
Could be one of the things that runs on cocoondev.org (the machine) -
being equiped to run Java, and being proposed to be more officially
affiliated/endorsed by (at least) the Cocoon community. But then of
course it runs externally to daedalus, but having gone through this
before, I would not hope for the possibility to run
role-based/time-triggered/Java-based processes on daedalus/icarus.
</Steven>
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Re: @apache web pages
Posted by Steven Noels <st...@outerthought.org>.
Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
> The advantage is that anyone using forrest could have their pages
> generated from ONE central running copy of forrest. We won't have
> 60-300 ssh demons running remotely uploading pages opening up
> security holes... and its just good clean infrastructure!
>
> I'll demonstrate lack of impact on the server, and get blessings from
> people on "infrastructure" etc before scheduling this of course.
>
> Any volunteers for #1? Any forresters willing to help me out
> spelunking forrest?
Could be one of the things that runs on cocoondev.org (the machine) -
being equiped to run Java, and being proposed to be more officially
affiliated/endorsed by (at least) the Cocoon community. But then of
course it runs externally to daedalus, but having gone through this
before, I would not hope for the possibility to run
role-based/time-triggered/Java-based processes on daedalus/icarus.
</Steven>
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Outerthought - Open Source, Java & XML Competence Support Center
Read my weblog at http://radio.weblogs.com/0103539/
stevenn at outerthought.org stevenn at apache.org
Re: Working JVMs (Re: @apache web pages)
Posted by "Andrew C. Oliver" <ac...@apache.org>.
I'll give it a whirl tonight.
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
>
>
> Jeff Turner wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 10:38:48PM -0500, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
>> >
>>
>>> Its balking on the Node.hadAttributes() method. It has to be a
>>> classpath thing...
>>
>>
>> Possibly Forrest was built on JDK 1.4? I've occasionally had
>> NoSuchMethodErrors when running 1.4-built code on 1.3.
>
>
> I had checked in some jars built on 1.4, but now it /should/ be fixed...
>
Re: Working JVMs (Re: @apache web pages)
Posted by Nicola Ken Barozzi <ni...@apache.org>.
Jeff Turner wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 10:38:48PM -0500, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
> >
>
>>Its balking on the Node.hadAttributes() method. It has to be a
>>classpath thing...
>
> Possibly Forrest was built on JDK 1.4? I've occasionally had
> NoSuchMethodErrors when running 1.4-built code on 1.3.
I had checked in some jars built on 1.4, but now it /should/ be fixed...
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Re: Working JVMs (Re: @apache web pages)
Posted by "Andrew C. Oliver" <ac...@apache.org>.
Jeff Turner wrote:
>On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 10:38:48PM -0500, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
> >
>
>
>>Its balking on the Node.hadAttributes() method. It has to be a
>>classpath thing...
>>
>>
>
>Possibly Forrest was built on JDK 1.4? I've occasionally had
>NoSuchMethodErrors when running 1.4-built code on 1.3.
>
>--Jeff
>
>
>
I don't think its getting that far. I check it out... I run the build..
It crokes. BTW the primer lies...there is no "clean" target".. . all
targets including dist just do the same thing
-Andy
Re: Working JVMs (Re: @apache web pages)
Posted by Jeff Turner <je...@apache.org>.
On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 10:38:48PM -0500, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
>
> Its balking on the Node.hadAttributes() method. It has to be a
> classpath thing...
Possibly Forrest was built on JDK 1.4? I've occasionally had
NoSuchMethodErrors when running 1.4-built code on 1.3.
--Jeff
Re: Working JVMs (Re: @apache web pages)
Posted by "Andrew C. Oliver" <ac...@apache.org>.
Jeff Turner wrote:
>On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 07:13:56PM -0500, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
>
>
>>I'd also like to get a central forrest generator set up. I had thought
>>daedalus was the proper
>>place to do that, but perhaps cvs.apache.org is.
>>
>>I can hack forrest to provide this.. But What I need is:
>>
>>1. A BSD spelunker with enough patience to get a copy of java 1.4
>>running or MAYBE a copy of 1.3.1.
>>Because Forrest doesn't work with 1.3.0
>>(http://www.freeroller.net/page/acoliver/20021109#apache_forrest_free_bsd_and)...
>>(I'm hoping it might work with 1.3.1)
>>
>>
>
>I tested a handful of JDKs I had locally. On my linux box, Forrest runs
>on Sun JDKs 1.4.1, 1.3.1, 1.3.0 and probably 1.2.0 (if it didn't run out
>of mem). It dies with FOP-related errors in IBM's 1.3.1.
>
>
>--Jeff
>
>
>
Its balking on the Node.hadAttributes() method. It has to be a
classpath thing...
Working JVMs (Re: @apache web pages)
Posted by Jeff Turner <je...@apache.org>.
On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 07:13:56PM -0500, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
> I'd also like to get a central forrest generator set up. I had thought
> daedalus was the proper
> place to do that, but perhaps cvs.apache.org is.
>
> I can hack forrest to provide this.. But What I need is:
>
> 1. A BSD spelunker with enough patience to get a copy of java 1.4
> running or MAYBE a copy of 1.3.1.
> Because Forrest doesn't work with 1.3.0
> (http://www.freeroller.net/page/acoliver/20021109#apache_forrest_free_bsd_and)...
> (I'm hoping it might work with 1.3.1)
I tested a handful of JDKs I had locally. On my linux box, Forrest runs
on Sun JDKs 1.4.1, 1.3.1, 1.3.0 and probably 1.2.0 (if it didn't run out
of mem). It dies with FOP-related errors in IBM's 1.3.1.
--Jeff
Re: @apache web pages
Posted by "Andrew C. Oliver" <ac...@apache.org>.
Rodent of Unusual Size wrote:
>Steven Noels wrote:
>
>
>>How about people having a homepage at daedalus?
>>
>>
>
>i'd recommend that we settle on one place or the other,
>rather than having them scattered all about. and, since
>all committers (except php :-( have access to cvs.apache.org,
>and not everyone has access to daedalus, i recommend that
>the former be the place.
>
>
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Re: @apache web pages
Posted by Rodent of Unusual Size <Ke...@Golux.Com>.
Steven Noels wrote:
>
> How about people having a homepage at daedalus?
i'd recommend that we settle on one place or the other,
rather than having them scattered all about. and, since
all committers (except php :-( have access to cvs.apache.org,
and not everyone has access to daedalus, i recommend that
the former be the place.
Re: @apache web pages
Posted by Henri Yandell <ba...@generationjava.com>.
On Tue, 12 Nov 2002, Ask Bjoern Hansen wrote:
> On Tue, 12 Nov 2002, Steven Noels wrote:
>
> > > updated nightly from everyone who has a public_html/index.html .
> >
> > Cool!
> >
> > How about people having a homepage at daedalus?
>
> I made a .htaccess file in my public_html directory on icarus with
>
> Redirect /~ask/ http://www.apache.org/~ask/
>
> and a placeholder index.html file.
Any reason not to reverse that?
ie)
1) All committers encouraged to have a personal page on icarus.
2) Creation of community.apache.org domain name to point to icarus.
3) Those with current www pages [I'm one so can understand the pain of
having to move] can .htaccess over to community.apache.org.
?
Hen
Re: @apache web pages
Posted by Ask Bjoern Hansen <as...@perl.org>.
On Tue, 12 Nov 2002, Steven Noels wrote:
> > updated nightly from everyone who has a public_html/index.html .
>
> Cool!
>
> How about people having a homepage at daedalus?
I made a .htaccess file in my public_html directory on icarus with
Redirect /~ask/ http://www.apache.org/~ask/
and a placeholder index.html file.
- ask
Re: @apache web pages
Posted by Steven Noels <st...@outerthought.org>.
Rodent of Unusual Size wrote:
>>>Oh, and maybe start to maintain a repository of each person. A directory
>>>or something. Yellow-pages like front-page.
>>>
>>
>>that is a most excellent idea. i do not have the requisite karma to
>>enact it, but +1 anyhow!
>
>
> http://cvs.apache.org/~coar/people.html
>
> updated nightly from everyone who has a public_html/index.html .
Cool!
How about people having a homepage at daedalus?
</Steven>
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Re: @apache web pages
Posted by Rodent of Unusual Size <Ke...@Golux.Com>.
"Andrew C. Oliver" wrote:
>
> >Oh, and maybe start to maintain a repository of each person. A directory
> >or something. Yellow-pages like front-page.
> >
> that is a most excellent idea. i do not have the requisite karma to
> enact it, but +1 anyhow!
http://cvs.apache.org/~coar/people.html
updated nightly from everyone who has a public_html/index.html .
Re: @apache web pages
Posted by "Andrew C. Oliver" <ac...@apache.org>.
>
>
>I think daedalus is quite busy with its current jobs :) [I think].
>Occasionally see comments on trying to stop it being overworked etc.
>
>One suggestion: Add a new DNS entry so that it's not:
>
>cvs.apache.org/~bob but
>people.apache.org/~bob
>
>
>Oh, and maybe start to maintain a repository of each person. A directory
>or something. Yellow-pages like front-page.
>
>
that is a most excellent idea. i do not have the requisite karma to
enact it, but +1 anyhow!
>Hen
>
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Re: @apache web pages
Posted by "David N. Welton" <da...@dedasys.com>.
Henri Yandell <ba...@generationjava.com> writes:
> One suggestion: Add a new DNS entry so that it's not:
>
> cvs.apache.org/~bob but
> people.apache.org/~bob
+1
That's what the Debian project uses as well.
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Re: @apache web pages
Posted by Henri Yandell <ba...@generationjava.com>.
On Mon, 11 Nov 2002, Chuck Murcko wrote:
> cvs also has a CNAME: icarus.
>
> Chuck
Yeah, but not quite the catchy homepagey name I was groping for though
Chuck :) It also sticks the sites to the machine, which would be bad.
Hen
>
> On Monday, November 11, 2002, at 06:19 PM, Henri Yandell wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 11 Nov 2002, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
> >
> >> I'd also like to get a central forrest generator set up. I had thought
> >> daedalus was the proper
> >> place to do that, but perhaps cvs.apache.org is.
> >
> > I think daedalus is quite busy with its current jobs :) [I think].
> > Occasionally see comments on trying to stop it being overworked etc.
> >
> > One suggestion: Add a new DNS entry so that it's not:
> >
> > cvs.apache.org/~bob but
> > people.apache.org/~bob
> >
> > Oh, and maybe start to maintain a repository of each person. A directory
> > or something. Yellow-pages like front-page.
> >
> > Hen
> >
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Re: @apache web pages
Posted by Chuck Murcko <ch...@topsail.org>.
cvs also has a CNAME: icarus.
Chuck
On Monday, November 11, 2002, at 06:19 PM, Henri Yandell wrote:
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> On Mon, 11 Nov 2002, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
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>> I'd also like to get a central forrest generator set up. I had thought
>> daedalus was the proper
>> place to do that, but perhaps cvs.apache.org is.
>
> I think daedalus is quite busy with its current jobs :) [I think].
> Occasionally see comments on trying to stop it being overworked etc.
>
> One suggestion: Add a new DNS entry so that it's not:
>
> cvs.apache.org/~bob but
> people.apache.org/~bob
>
> Oh, and maybe start to maintain a repository of each person. A directory
> or something. Yellow-pages like front-page.
>
> Hen
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Re: @apache web pages
Posted by Henri Yandell <ba...@generationjava.com>.
On Mon, 11 Nov 2002, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
> I'd also like to get a central forrest generator set up. I had thought
> daedalus was the proper
> place to do that, but perhaps cvs.apache.org is.
I think daedalus is quite busy with its current jobs :) [I think].
Occasionally see comments on trying to stop it being overworked etc.
One suggestion: Add a new DNS entry so that it's not:
cvs.apache.org/~bob but
people.apache.org/~bob
Oh, and maybe start to maintain a repository of each person. A directory
or something. Yellow-pages like front-page.
Hen
Re: @apache web pages
Posted by Henri Yandell <ba...@generationjava.com>.
On Mon, 11 Nov 2002, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
> I'd also like to get a central forrest generator set up. I had thought
> daedalus was the proper
> place to do that, but perhaps cvs.apache.org is.
I think daedalus is quite busy with its current jobs :) [I think].
Occasionally see comments on trying to stop it being overworked etc.
One suggestion: Add a new DNS entry so that it's not:
cvs.apache.org/~bob but
people.apache.org/~bob
Oh, and maybe start to maintain a repository of each person. A directory
or something. Yellow-pages like front-page.
Hen
Re: @apache web pages
Posted by Tony Collen <tc...@hist.umn.edu>.
On Mon, 11 Nov 2002, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
> I'd also like to get a central forrest generator set up. I had thought
> daedalus was the proper
> place to do that, but perhaps cvs.apache.org is.
>
> I can hack forrest to provide this.. But What I need is:
>
> 1. A BSD spelunker with enough patience to get a copy of java 1.4
> running or MAYBE a copy of 1.3.1.
> Because Forrest doesn't work with 1.3.0
> (http://www.freeroller.net/page/acoliver/20021109#apache_forrest_free_bsd_and)...
> (I'm hoping it might work with 1.3.1)
I'll come out of lurking and just mention that java doesn't work in BSD, i
think versions later than 4.5-STABLE. There's a problem with running
java as a non-root user, and it requires a kernel patch that I couldn't
get working for the life of me. Any java process run as root will work
fine.
Just something to look out for. Last I checked, there was a bug filed but
it hadn't been patched yet. Let me know if anybody wants more info on
this and I'll dig up more info about the bug.
HTH,
Tony
Tony Collen -- tc@socsci.umn.edu
College of Liberal Arts University of Minnesota, Minneapolis, West Bank