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Posted to netcat@netbeans.apache.org by Christian Lenz <ch...@gmx.net> on 2018/11/01 10:56:53 UTC
AW: NetBeans 10.0 vc2
General question, should we collect that stuff that we found for NetBeans 10.0 vc2 here or whereelse?
I found a new funny Thing, that NB 10.0 VC2 shows me, that a new IDE Version is available (NB 9.0). But it could be that it Shows me that, because I activated the 8.2 plugin Portal.
Cheers
Chris
Von: Christian Lenz
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 1. November 2018 10:58
An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Betreff: AW: NetBeans 10.0 vc2
Ok some more Infos About the smooth Scrolling.
Works perfect in:
- Navigator
- Options (tested with Editor and Team tab)
- Project View
- Files View
- Services View
No Smooth Scrolling/same behaviour as with VC1
- Output View
Hacky/jitty smooth Scrolling
- Editor
So everything was tested with horizontally and vertically Scrolling.
Cheers
Chris
Von: Christian Lenz
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 1. November 2018 10:14
An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Betreff: AW: NetBeans 10.0 vc2
Hey Eirik,
thx, will test what you said. Will try to make a proper Video of my finger Navigation and the Output. Can’t promise, whether I can handle it in the next days or not.
Cheers
Chris
Von: Eirik Bakke
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 1. November 2018 02:35
An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Betreff: RE: NetBeans 10.0 vc2
I'd love to get a few more Windows users reporting whether the trackpad behavior has improved or worsened for them in VC2. We can revert the patch, though I suspect this will improve the situation for some users while making it worse for others. (On my Thinkpad X1 Carbon 6th gen, the previous behavior was unusable.)
Do you see the same issues in scroll panes other than the editor? E.g. the Projects pane? (You might need to open up a big project and expand all the packages to make it scroll.)
The GIFs are a bit too choppy to see what's really going on (even Chrome does not appear smooth). Ideally it would be nice to see how fast your fingers are moving as well--maybe you could do a cell phone video showing both your fingers on the trackpad and the NetBeans editor scrolling?
I'd love to fix the scroll issue, but I can't think of a way to debug the issues you are seeing without having your exact brand of laptop. If you have a chance, you could try to instrument org/netbeans/swing/plaf/util/SmoothScrollPaneUI.java yourself and see if you can find out what's going on. (See https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/pull/881 for the original patch). But if you don't have time I'm fine with reverting.
-- Eirik
-----Original Message-----
From: Christian Lenz <ch...@gmx.net>
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2018 6:12 PM
To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Subject: AW: NetBeans 10.0 vc2
And unfortunately the smooth scroll doesn’t work well.
https://imgur.com/a/OmDTmdg (Smooth scrolling NB 10.0 VC2)
It is not that it is not real smooth or doesn’t feel smooth, this is another Problem. Here you can see what smooth should be:
(1) https://imgur.com/a/VXoyEGP (Smooth Scrolling in Chrome)
(2) https://imgur.com/a/yVZtX3Z (Smooth Scrolling in VS Code)
Unfortunately, smooth Scrolling doesn’t work in IntelliJ, so I can’t Show it to you.
But it is hacky/jitty, it sometimes jumps and the parts, where you can see it scrolls only minimal, this is the part where I scroll real wide and not only in small steps. So all in all, it should be reverted and needs more investment IMHO.
So the implementation doesn’t fit well of what it was shown here: https://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/IDEA-76396
I have to say, that I use a Surface Book with a touchpad, so no mouse Wheel only to let you know.
Cheers
Chris
P.S. if the Screencasts are not working well, I will try to create a Video.
Von: Eirik Bakke
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 31. Oktober 2018 22:01
An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Betreff: RE: NetBeans 10.0 vc2
> Well, that's strange. AFAIK I still used the old 9.0 launcher in
> 10.0vc2
Oh, right. Hmm. Not sure why it happened, then.
-----Original Message-----
From: Laszlo Kishalmi <la...@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2018 4:59 PM
To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: NetBeans 10.0 vc2
Well, that's strange. AFAIK I still used the old 9.0 launcher in 10.0vc2
The new launcher just has been merged into master today. So it will be part of vc3
On 10/31/18 1:52 PM, Eirik Bakke wrote:
> I think the Windows Defender thing pops up whenever someone runs an executable that no one (or very few Windows users) has ever run before. Since the launcher executable has recently been updated, this is the case here, but was not the case for the previous launcher (which had been used by many NetBeans users previously).
>
> "Checking downloaded files against a list of files that are well known
> and downloaded by many Windows users. If the file isn't on that list,
> SmartScreen shows a warning, advising caution." [1]
>
> So in theory this will go away once a few people have downloaded NetBeans.
>
> -- Eirik
> [1]
> https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/security/threat-protection/wi
> ndows-defender-smartscreen/windows-defender-smartscreen-overview
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Christian Lenz <ch...@gmx.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2018 3:56 PM
> To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org; netcat@netbeans.apache.org
> Subject: NetBeans 10.0 vc2
>
> Hey,
>
> I tried to run NB 10.0 VC2. I use the Windows Defender SmartScreen and it was still activated since I don’t know. NetBeans 8.2, NetBeans 9.0 and NetBeans 10.0 VC1 opened very well (NB 10.0 VC1 with the command line but I think that was fixed). Now when I start NB 10.0 VC2 I got the Windows Defender SmartScreen prompt that my PC Prevent the start of an unknown app with only one call to Action called „Don’t execute“. There is a link for „More Information“ where I can still run it. Similar message on pages with http and HTTPS.
>
> So IMHO smth weird happened from VC1 to VC2. Maybe with the HIDPI stuff? Only guessing, I don’t know.
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Chris
>
>
>
>
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