content for 2.4?

[Marcel Kinard <cm...@gmail.com>]

Aside from bug fixes, are there ideas on what you think will be tackled 
for 2.4? I suspect at least some of you have ideas in your head that I 
haven't fully seen written here. I'm just looking for a high-level 
bullet list. I'm not looking for promises, instead just to set some 
rough expectations for Cordova consumers.

I see the roadmap wiki page organized by quarter, but I'm looking for 
something more narrow to at least answer "What do we think the next 
version (2.4) will look like". When doing agile projects with my 
employer, I'm used to keeping a prioritized backlog which can be used to 
answer questions like this, but I don't see that in Jira. Thanks!

-- Marcel Kinard

Re: content for 2.4?

[Michal Mocny <mm...@chromium.org>]

I'm planning to add an add an api to send binary data across the bridge, as
well as to share a plugin for raw tcp/udp socket which I've been working on.


On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 10:37 AM, Andrew Grieve <ag...@chromium.org> wrote:

> I'm planning to focus on bug fixes as well as working on support for JS
> within plugins (e.g. following up on my "food for thought" email).
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 3:19 PM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote:
>
> > This requires a new thread to garner some consensus. Gonna kick that
> > up. (Stoked that we're at this point.)
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 11:52 AM, Filip Maj <fi...@adobe.com> wrote:
> > > There are always bug fixes and issues that can easily take up one's
> time
> > > for any given platform. It's a constant battle :)
> > >
> > > I will be focusing around the cli tooling and putting more work into
> the
> > > plugin specification + the plugin tooling, with the goal being to
> achieve
> > > the "light core" and plugins-as-separate-entities Brian mentioned. If
> > > others in our community are up for it, perhaps they can help out by
> > > starting to split out the core APIs into their own repos, and making
> them
> > > work with the CLI tooling / plugman tool? In my mind outstanding tasks:
> > >
> > > - split plugins out into individual repos
> > > - audit BlackBerry and WP7 support for plugin tooling on plug man
> > > - support for other platforms for plugin tooling
> > >   - for this, first we need to identify which platforms we want to
> > support
> > > with auto plugin management
> > >   - then add support to the tools for it
> > > - integrate with the top-level cordova-cli tool
> > >
> > > On 1/3/13 11:40 AM, "Brian LeRoux" <b...@brian.io> wrote:
> > >
> > >>Joe: think API audits should start after we remove the APIs from core
> > >>so we can version plugins independently.
> > >>
> > >>Fil: yes, that'd be awesome.
> > >>
> > >>Marcel: first priority for the long view on 3.x is a light core w/ no
> > >>APIs. The tools aren't there yet to do this so continued work there in
> > >>2.4 needed. If you want to see the particular feature-set for a
> > >>release you can look in JIRA and whats been assigned. In Cordova the
> > >>committers assign their own issues (w/ our goals in mind). I would
> > >>imagine that 2.4 will have many bug fixes related to recent additions
> > >>like InAppBrowser which debuts this week (or so) in 2.3
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 11:30 AM, Filip Maj <fi...@adobe.com> wrote:
> > >>> I'd like to include cordova-cli into our full source release in
> 2.4.0.
> > >>>
> > >>> On 1/3/13 10:22 AM, "Joe Bowser" <bo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>>I believe that 2.4.0 is the release where we refactor our APIs and
> > >>>>clean things up.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 6:57 AM, Marcel Kinard <cm...@gmail.com>
> > >>>>wrote:
> > >>>>> Aside from bug fixes, are there ideas on what you think will be
> > >>>>>tackled
> > >>>>>for
> > >>>>> 2.4? I suspect at least some of you have ideas in your head that I
> > >>>>>haven't
> > >>>>> fully seen written here. I'm just looking for a high-level bullet
> > >>>>>list.
> > >>>>>I'm
> > >>>>> not looking for promises, instead just to set some rough
> expectations
> > >>>>>for
> > >>>>> Cordova consumers.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I see the roadmap wiki page organized by quarter, but I'm looking
> for
> > >>>>> something more narrow to at least answer "What do we think the next
> > >>>>>version
> > >>>>> (2.4) will look like". When doing agile projects with my employer,
> > I'm
> > >>>>>used
> > >>>>> to keeping a prioritized backlog which can be used to answer
> > questions
> > >>>>>like
> > >>>>> this, but I don't see that in Jira. Thanks!
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> -- Marcel Kinard
> > >>>
> > >
> >
>

Re: content for 2.4?

[Andrew Grieve <ag...@chromium.org>]

I'm planning to focus on bug fixes as well as working on support for JS
within plugins (e.g. following up on my "food for thought" email).


On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 3:19 PM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote:

> This requires a new thread to garner some consensus. Gonna kick that
> up. (Stoked that we're at this point.)
>
> On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 11:52 AM, Filip Maj <fi...@adobe.com> wrote:
> > There are always bug fixes and issues that can easily take up one's time
> > for any given platform. It's a constant battle :)
> >
> > I will be focusing around the cli tooling and putting more work into the
> > plugin specification + the plugin tooling, with the goal being to achieve
> > the "light core" and plugins-as-separate-entities Brian mentioned. If
> > others in our community are up for it, perhaps they can help out by
> > starting to split out the core APIs into their own repos, and making them
> > work with the CLI tooling / plugman tool? In my mind outstanding tasks:
> >
> > - split plugins out into individual repos
> > - audit BlackBerry and WP7 support for plugin tooling on plug man
> > - support for other platforms for plugin tooling
> >   - for this, first we need to identify which platforms we want to
> support
> > with auto plugin management
> >   - then add support to the tools for it
> > - integrate with the top-level cordova-cli tool
> >
> > On 1/3/13 11:40 AM, "Brian LeRoux" <b...@brian.io> wrote:
> >
> >>Joe: think API audits should start after we remove the APIs from core
> >>so we can version plugins independently.
> >>
> >>Fil: yes, that'd be awesome.
> >>
> >>Marcel: first priority for the long view on 3.x is a light core w/ no
> >>APIs. The tools aren't there yet to do this so continued work there in
> >>2.4 needed. If you want to see the particular feature-set for a
> >>release you can look in JIRA and whats been assigned. In Cordova the
> >>committers assign their own issues (w/ our goals in mind). I would
> >>imagine that 2.4 will have many bug fixes related to recent additions
> >>like InAppBrowser which debuts this week (or so) in 2.3
> >>
> >>
> >>On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 11:30 AM, Filip Maj <fi...@adobe.com> wrote:
> >>> I'd like to include cordova-cli into our full source release in 2.4.0.
> >>>
> >>> On 1/3/13 10:22 AM, "Joe Bowser" <bo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>I believe that 2.4.0 is the release where we refactor our APIs and
> >>>>clean things up.
> >>>>
> >>>>On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 6:57 AM, Marcel Kinard <cm...@gmail.com>
> >>>>wrote:
> >>>>> Aside from bug fixes, are there ideas on what you think will be
> >>>>>tackled
> >>>>>for
> >>>>> 2.4? I suspect at least some of you have ideas in your head that I
> >>>>>haven't
> >>>>> fully seen written here. I'm just looking for a high-level bullet
> >>>>>list.
> >>>>>I'm
> >>>>> not looking for promises, instead just to set some rough expectations
> >>>>>for
> >>>>> Cordova consumers.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I see the roadmap wiki page organized by quarter, but I'm looking for
> >>>>> something more narrow to at least answer "What do we think the next
> >>>>>version
> >>>>> (2.4) will look like". When doing agile projects with my employer,
> I'm
> >>>>>used
> >>>>> to keeping a prioritized backlog which can be used to answer
> questions
> >>>>>like
> >>>>> this, but I don't see that in Jira. Thanks!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -- Marcel Kinard
> >>>
> >
>

Re: content for 2.4?

[Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io>]

This requires a new thread to garner some consensus. Gonna kick that
up. (Stoked that we're at this point.)

On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 11:52 AM, Filip Maj <fi...@adobe.com> wrote:
> There are always bug fixes and issues that can easily take up one's time
> for any given platform. It's a constant battle :)
>
> I will be focusing around the cli tooling and putting more work into the
> plugin specification + the plugin tooling, with the goal being to achieve
> the "light core" and plugins-as-separate-entities Brian mentioned. If
> others in our community are up for it, perhaps they can help out by
> starting to split out the core APIs into their own repos, and making them
> work with the CLI tooling / plugman tool? In my mind outstanding tasks:
>
> - split plugins out into individual repos
> - audit BlackBerry and WP7 support for plugin tooling on plug man
> - support for other platforms for plugin tooling
>   - for this, first we need to identify which platforms we want to support
> with auto plugin management
>   - then add support to the tools for it
> - integrate with the top-level cordova-cli tool
>
> On 1/3/13 11:40 AM, "Brian LeRoux" <b...@brian.io> wrote:
>
>>Joe: think API audits should start after we remove the APIs from core
>>so we can version plugins independently.
>>
>>Fil: yes, that'd be awesome.
>>
>>Marcel: first priority for the long view on 3.x is a light core w/ no
>>APIs. The tools aren't there yet to do this so continued work there in
>>2.4 needed. If you want to see the particular feature-set for a
>>release you can look in JIRA and whats been assigned. In Cordova the
>>committers assign their own issues (w/ our goals in mind). I would
>>imagine that 2.4 will have many bug fixes related to recent additions
>>like InAppBrowser which debuts this week (or so) in 2.3
>>
>>
>>On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 11:30 AM, Filip Maj <fi...@adobe.com> wrote:
>>> I'd like to include cordova-cli into our full source release in 2.4.0.
>>>
>>> On 1/3/13 10:22 AM, "Joe Bowser" <bo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>I believe that 2.4.0 is the release where we refactor our APIs and
>>>>clean things up.
>>>>
>>>>On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 6:57 AM, Marcel Kinard <cm...@gmail.com>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>> Aside from bug fixes, are there ideas on what you think will be
>>>>>tackled
>>>>>for
>>>>> 2.4? I suspect at least some of you have ideas in your head that I
>>>>>haven't
>>>>> fully seen written here. I'm just looking for a high-level bullet
>>>>>list.
>>>>>I'm
>>>>> not looking for promises, instead just to set some rough expectations
>>>>>for
>>>>> Cordova consumers.
>>>>>
>>>>> I see the roadmap wiki page organized by quarter, but I'm looking for
>>>>> something more narrow to at least answer "What do we think the next
>>>>>version
>>>>> (2.4) will look like". When doing agile projects with my employer, I'm
>>>>>used
>>>>> to keeping a prioritized backlog which can be used to answer questions
>>>>>like
>>>>> this, but I don't see that in Jira. Thanks!
>>>>>
>>>>> -- Marcel Kinard
>>>
>

Re: content for 2.4?

[Filip Maj <fi...@adobe.com>]

There are always bug fixes and issues that can easily take up one's time
for any given platform. It's a constant battle :)

I will be focusing around the cli tooling and putting more work into the
plugin specification + the plugin tooling, with the goal being to achieve
the "light core" and plugins-as-separate-entities Brian mentioned. If
others in our community are up for it, perhaps they can help out by
starting to split out the core APIs into their own repos, and making them
work with the CLI tooling / plugman tool? In my mind outstanding tasks:

- split plugins out into individual repos
- audit BlackBerry and WP7 support for plugin tooling on plug man
- support for other platforms for plugin tooling
  - for this, first we need to identify which platforms we want to support
with auto plugin management
  - then add support to the tools for it
- integrate with the top-level cordova-cli tool

On 1/3/13 11:40 AM, "Brian LeRoux" <b...@brian.io> wrote:

>Joe: think API audits should start after we remove the APIs from core
>so we can version plugins independently.
>
>Fil: yes, that'd be awesome.
>
>Marcel: first priority for the long view on 3.x is a light core w/ no
>APIs. The tools aren't there yet to do this so continued work there in
>2.4 needed. If you want to see the particular feature-set for a
>release you can look in JIRA and whats been assigned. In Cordova the
>committers assign their own issues (w/ our goals in mind). I would
>imagine that 2.4 will have many bug fixes related to recent additions
>like InAppBrowser which debuts this week (or so) in 2.3
>
>
>On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 11:30 AM, Filip Maj <fi...@adobe.com> wrote:
>> I'd like to include cordova-cli into our full source release in 2.4.0.
>>
>> On 1/3/13 10:22 AM, "Joe Bowser" <bo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>I believe that 2.4.0 is the release where we refactor our APIs and
>>>clean things up.
>>>
>>>On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 6:57 AM, Marcel Kinard <cm...@gmail.com>
>>>wrote:
>>>> Aside from bug fixes, are there ideas on what you think will be
>>>>tackled
>>>>for
>>>> 2.4? I suspect at least some of you have ideas in your head that I
>>>>haven't
>>>> fully seen written here. I'm just looking for a high-level bullet
>>>>list.
>>>>I'm
>>>> not looking for promises, instead just to set some rough expectations
>>>>for
>>>> Cordova consumers.
>>>>
>>>> I see the roadmap wiki page organized by quarter, but I'm looking for
>>>> something more narrow to at least answer "What do we think the next
>>>>version
>>>> (2.4) will look like". When doing agile projects with my employer, I'm
>>>>used
>>>> to keeping a prioritized backlog which can be used to answer questions
>>>>like
>>>> this, but I don't see that in Jira. Thanks!
>>>>
>>>> -- Marcel Kinard
>>

Re: content for 2.4?

[Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io>]

Joe: think API audits should start after we remove the APIs from core
so we can version plugins independently.

Fil: yes, that'd be awesome.

Marcel: first priority for the long view on 3.x is a light core w/ no
APIs. The tools aren't there yet to do this so continued work there in
2.4 needed. If you want to see the particular feature-set for a
release you can look in JIRA and whats been assigned. In Cordova the
committers assign their own issues (w/ our goals in mind). I would
imagine that 2.4 will have many bug fixes related to recent additions
like InAppBrowser which debuts this week (or so) in 2.3


On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 11:30 AM, Filip Maj <fi...@adobe.com> wrote:
> I'd like to include cordova-cli into our full source release in 2.4.0.
>
> On 1/3/13 10:22 AM, "Joe Bowser" <bo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>I believe that 2.4.0 is the release where we refactor our APIs and
>>clean things up.
>>
>>On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 6:57 AM, Marcel Kinard <cm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Aside from bug fixes, are there ideas on what you think will be tackled
>>>for
>>> 2.4? I suspect at least some of you have ideas in your head that I
>>>haven't
>>> fully seen written here. I'm just looking for a high-level bullet list.
>>>I'm
>>> not looking for promises, instead just to set some rough expectations
>>>for
>>> Cordova consumers.
>>>
>>> I see the roadmap wiki page organized by quarter, but I'm looking for
>>> something more narrow to at least answer "What do we think the next
>>>version
>>> (2.4) will look like". When doing agile projects with my employer, I'm
>>>used
>>> to keeping a prioritized backlog which can be used to answer questions
>>>like
>>> this, but I don't see that in Jira. Thanks!
>>>
>>> -- Marcel Kinard
>

Re: content for 2.4?

[Filip Maj <fi...@adobe.com>]

I'd like to include cordova-cli into our full source release in 2.4.0.

On 1/3/13 10:22 AM, "Joe Bowser" <bo...@gmail.com> wrote:

>I believe that 2.4.0 is the release where we refactor our APIs and
>clean things up.
>
>On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 6:57 AM, Marcel Kinard <cm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Aside from bug fixes, are there ideas on what you think will be tackled
>>for
>> 2.4? I suspect at least some of you have ideas in your head that I
>>haven't
>> fully seen written here. I'm just looking for a high-level bullet list.
>>I'm
>> not looking for promises, instead just to set some rough expectations
>>for
>> Cordova consumers.
>>
>> I see the roadmap wiki page organized by quarter, but I'm looking for
>> something more narrow to at least answer "What do we think the next
>>version
>> (2.4) will look like". When doing agile projects with my employer, I'm
>>used
>> to keeping a prioritized backlog which can be used to answer questions
>>like
>> this, but I don't see that in Jira. Thanks!
>>
>> -- Marcel Kinard

Re: content for 2.4?

[Joe Bowser <bo...@gmail.com>]

I believe that 2.4.0 is the release where we refactor our APIs and
clean things up.

On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 6:57 AM, Marcel Kinard <cm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Aside from bug fixes, are there ideas on what you think will be tackled for
> 2.4? I suspect at least some of you have ideas in your head that I haven't
> fully seen written here. I'm just looking for a high-level bullet list. I'm
> not looking for promises, instead just to set some rough expectations for
> Cordova consumers.
>
> I see the roadmap wiki page organized by quarter, but I'm looking for
> something more narrow to at least answer "What do we think the next version
> (2.4) will look like". When doing agile projects with my employer, I'm used
> to keeping a prioritized backlog which can be used to answer questions like
> this, but I don't see that in Jira. Thanks!
>
> -- Marcel Kinard