Website

[Matthieu Riou <ma...@gmail.com>]

We need to come up with a solution to generate html for our website (unless
you enjoy hand-typing HTML). My preference would be to use Confluence to
publish content. Normally you can't use a wiki as your main website in
Apache but somebdoy came up with a Confluence plugin that exports your space
when it gets edited. So that would work. A couple of other projects already
use this (like ServiceMix I think).

So before I ask to the infra team for this to be setup, I just wanted to
make sure everybody would be happy with that. Alternatives would be Maven,
Anakia or Forrest...

Cheers,

Matthieu.

Re: Website

[Sanjiva Weerawarana <sa...@opensource.lk>]

In the WS projects we do edit html and generate the site using maven.
IMO that's a better way than the confluence way.

Sanjiva.

On Fri, 2006-07-28 at 15:40 -0700, Matthieu Riou wrote:
> We need to come up with a solution to generate html for our website (unless
> you enjoy hand-typing HTML). My preference would be to use Confluence to
> publish content. Normally you can't use a wiki as your main website in
> Apache but somebdoy came up with a Confluence plugin that exports your space
> when it gets edited. So that would work. A couple of other projects already
> use this (like ServiceMix I think).
> 
> So before I ask to the infra team for this to be setup, I just wanted to
> make sure everybody would be happy with that. Alternatives would be Maven,
> Anakia or Forrest...
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Matthieu.

Re: Website

[Sanjiva Weerawarana <sa...@opensource.lk>]

On Sat, 2006-07-29 at 11:45 -0700, Matthieu Riou wrote:
> The thing is there's already some content and guides that have been written
> for PXE under Confluence that could be easily adapted to Ode. It would be
> nice if we could reuse that content.
> 
> However, Sanjiva, if you think using Confluence wouldn't make use "WS
> projects friendly" then we'd use Maven.

No no there's no such requirement; you're welcome to use what you want.
My only feeling is that revision control ala SVN is very useful even for
the site and its easier to do that with xdocs rather than with
Confluence. If I'm wrong great.

But its up to the community here to decide what works best for you.

>  But I've used it a bit for other
> sites and didn't enjoy much the experience, you spend a lot of time
> formatting -> generating (can be long) -> using f* words -> reformatting ...
> I guess it gets better when you're used to it.

:)

Sanjiva.

Re: Website

[Matthieu Riou <ma...@gmail.com>]

So all the ones who gave me a user id normally have been added to the
ode-dev group. You should be able to CRUD pages.

On 8/4/06, Matthieu Riou <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I see, thanks for the clarification Bruce. I think we'll got the auto
> export way then.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Matthieu
>
>
> On 8/4/06, Bruce Snyder < bruce.snyder@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > On 8/3/06, Matthieu Riou < matthieu.riou@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > It's been really quick! We already have a Confluence space setup:
> > >
> > > http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ODExSITE/Home
> > >
> > > It's been initiated with PXE documentation so there's a lot to clean
> > up but
> > > at least we have something to start with.
> > >
> > > What you'll need to do is to create an account for yourself. For those
> > who
> > > have created documentation on the orginal PXE wiki, use the same id as
> > your
> > > account on PXE's wiki so your history will still be there. For all of
> > you,
> > > after registering, send me your user id. Once I have them all, I'll
> > ask to
> > > add you to the ode-users group (it's better to do all one time, infra
> > people
> > > are busy).
> > >
> > > Then when the content is pretty enough, we'll export the space, check
> > it in
> > > our SVN and publish it via SVN to Ode's website (
> > > http://incubator.apache.org/ode). I think that's more or less what the
> > > people of Geronimo are doing.
> >
> > Geronimo is not using Confluence to manage it's website yet - we're
> > only experimenting with it. Currently we're still using the Maven
> > XDocs to maintain the website and these are checked into the
> > Subversion repo.
> >
> > ActiveMQ and ServiceMix are actually using the Confluence to manage
> > their websites with an auto export to static HTML for serving the
> > website, but this static HTML is not currently being checked in to the
> > Subversion repo because this is not automated yet.
> >
> > Bruce
> > --
> > perl -e 'print
> > unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\"YC;VT*"
> > );'
> >
> > Apache Geronimo - http://geronimo.apache.org/
> > Apache ActiveMQ - http://incubator.apache.org/activemq/
> > Apache ServiceMix - http://incubator.apache.org/servicemix/
> > Castor - http://castor.org/
> >
>
>

Re: Website

[Matthieu Riou <ma...@gmail.com>]

I see, thanks for the clarification Bruce. I think we'll got the auto export
way then.

Cheers,

Matthieu

On 8/4/06, Bruce Snyder <br...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 8/3/06, Matthieu Riou <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > It's been really quick! We already have a Confluence space setup:
> >
> > http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ODExSITE/Home
> >
> > It's been initiated with PXE documentation so there's a lot to clean up
> but
> > at least we have something to start with.
> >
> > What you'll need to do is to create an account for yourself. For those
> who
> > have created documentation on the orginal PXE wiki, use the same id as
> your
> > account on PXE's wiki so your history will still be there. For all of
> you,
> > after registering, send me your user id. Once I have them all, I'll ask
> to
> > add you to the ode-users group (it's better to do all one time, infra
> people
> > are busy).
> >
> > Then when the content is pretty enough, we'll export the space, check it
> in
> > our SVN and publish it via SVN to Ode's website (
> > http://incubator.apache.org/ode). I think that's more or less what the
> > people of Geronimo are doing.
>
> Geronimo is not using Confluence to manage it's website yet - we're
> only experimenting with it. Currently we're still using the Maven
> XDocs to maintain the website and these are checked into the
> Subversion repo.
>
> ActiveMQ and ServiceMix are actually using the Confluence to manage
> their websites with an auto export to static HTML for serving the
> website, but this static HTML is not currently being checked in to the
> Subversion repo because this is not automated yet.
>
> Bruce
> --
> perl -e 'print
> unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\"YC;VT*"
> );'
>
> Apache Geronimo - http://geronimo.apache.org/
> Apache ActiveMQ - http://incubator.apache.org/activemq/
> Apache ServiceMix - http://incubator.apache.org/servicemix/
> Castor - http://castor.org/
>

Re: Website

[Bruce Snyder <br...@gmail.com>]

On 8/3/06, Matthieu Riou <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> It's been really quick! We already have a Confluence space setup:
>
> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ODExSITE/Home
>
> It's been initiated with PXE documentation so there's a lot to clean up but
> at least we have something to start with.
>
> What you'll need to do is to create an account for yourself. For those who
> have created documentation on the orginal PXE wiki, use the same id as your
> account on PXE's wiki so your history will still be there. For all of you,
> after registering, send me your user id. Once I have them all, I'll ask to
> add you to the ode-users group (it's better to do all one time, infra people
> are busy).
>
> Then when the content is pretty enough, we'll export the space, check it in
> our SVN and publish it via SVN to Ode's website (
> http://incubator.apache.org/ode). I think that's more or less what the
> people of Geronimo are doing.

Geronimo is not using Confluence to manage it's website yet - we're
only experimenting with it. Currently we're still using the Maven
XDocs to maintain the website and these are checked into the
Subversion repo.

ActiveMQ and ServiceMix are actually using the Confluence to manage
their websites with an auto export to static HTML for serving the
website, but this static HTML is not currently being checked in to the
Subversion repo because this is not automated yet.

Bruce
-- 
perl -e 'print unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\"YC;VT*"
);'

Apache Geronimo - http://geronimo.apache.org/
Apache ActiveMQ - http://incubator.apache.org/activemq/
Apache ServiceMix - http://incubator.apache.org/servicemix/
Castor - http://castor.org/

Re: Website

[Matthieu Riou <ma...@gmail.com>]

It's been really quick! We already have a Confluence space setup:

http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ODExSITE/Home

It's been initiated with PXE documentation so there's a lot to clean up but
at least we have something to start with.

What you'll need to do is to create an account for yourself. For those who
have created documentation on the orginal PXE wiki, use the same id as your
account on PXE's wiki so your history will still be there. For all of you,
after registering, send me your user id. Once I have them all, I'll ask to
add you to the ode-users group (it's better to do all one time, infra people
are busy).

Then when the content is pretty enough, we'll export the space, check it in
our SVN and publish it via SVN to Ode's website (
http://incubator.apache.org/ode). I think that's more or less what the
people of Geronimo are doing.

Maybe we'll need to run a logo contest too... :)

Cheers,

Matthieu

On 8/3/06, Paul Brown <pa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> +1 on confluence as well.  We had good luck with it for getting people
> to participate in writing PXE docs once upon a time.
>
> On 8/3/06, Maciej Szefler <mb...@intalio.com> wrote:
> > +1 on confluence.
> >
> > -mbs
> >
> > On Wed, 2006-08-02 at 17:25 -0700, Matthieu Riou wrote:
> > > More opinions? Preferences?
> > >
> > > On 7/31/06, Assaf Arkin <ar...@intalio.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > +1 on Confluence. It's just so easy to use.
> > > >
> > > > Assaf
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 7/29/06, Matthieu Riou <matthieu.riou@gmail.com > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > The thing is there's already some content and guides that have
> been
> > > > > written
> > > > > for PXE under Confluence that could be easily adapted to Ode. It
> would
> > > > > be
> > > > > nice if we could reuse that content.
> > > > >
> > > > > However, Sanjiva, if you think using Confluence wouldn't make use
> "WS
> > > > > projects friendly" then we'd use Maven. But I've used it a bit for
> other
> > > > >
> > > > > sites and didn't enjoy much the experience, you spend a lot of
> time
> > > > > formatting -> generating (can be long) -> using f* words ->
> reformatting
> > > > > ...
> > > > > I guess it gets better when you're used to it.
> > > > >
> > > > > Matthieu
> > > > >
> > > > > On 7/29/06, Bruce Snyder <br...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 7/28/06, Matthieu Riou <matthieu.riou@gmail.com > wrote:
> > > > > > > We need to come up with a solution to generate html for our
> website
> > > > > > (unless
> > > > > > > you enjoy hand-typing HTML). My preference would be to use
> > > > > Confluence to
> > > > > > > publish content. Normally you can't use a wiki as your main
> website
> > > > > in
> > > > > > > Apache but somebdoy came up with a Confluence plugin that
> exports
> > > > > your
> > > > > > space
> > > > > > > when it gets edited. So that would work. A couple of other
> projects
> > > > > > already
> > > > > > > use this (like ServiceMix I think).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > So before I ask to the infra team for this to be setup, I just
> > > > > wanted to
> > > > > > > make sure everybody would be happy with that. Alternatives
> would be
> > > > > > Maven,
> > > > > > > Anakia or Forrest...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I've used both Maven (using APT and XDoc) and the Confluence
> > > > > > AutoExport plugin (for ActiveMQ and ServiceMix) and both work
> nicely.
> > > > > > Maven is geared more toward hackers whereas the Confluence
> AutoExport
> > > > > > plugin kind of lowers the barrier of adding content so it's a
> bit more
> > > > > > community friendly I suppose. But I don't have a preference for
> one
> > > > > > over the other. The only thing I would suggest is storing the
> content
> > > > > > in the Subversion repo.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Bruce
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > perl -e 'print
> > > > > >
> unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\"YC;VT*"
> > > > > > );'
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Apache Geronimo - http://geronimo.apache.org/
> > > > > > Apache ActiveMQ - http://incubator.apache.org/activemq/
> > > > > > Apache ServiceMix - http://incubator.apache.org/servicemix/
> > > > > > Castor - http://castor.org/
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > CTO, Intalio
> > > > http://www.intalio.com
> > > >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> paulrbrown@gmail.com
> http://mult.ifario.us/
>

Re: Website

[Paul Brown <pa...@gmail.com>]

+1 on confluence as well.  We had good luck with it for getting people
to participate in writing PXE docs once upon a time.

On 8/3/06, Maciej Szefler <mb...@intalio.com> wrote:
> +1 on confluence.
>
> -mbs
>
> On Wed, 2006-08-02 at 17:25 -0700, Matthieu Riou wrote:
> > More opinions? Preferences?
> >
> > On 7/31/06, Assaf Arkin <ar...@intalio.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > +1 on Confluence. It's just so easy to use.
> > >
> > > Assaf
> > >
> > >
> > > On 7/29/06, Matthieu Riou <matthieu.riou@gmail.com > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The thing is there's already some content and guides that have been
> > > > written
> > > > for PXE under Confluence that could be easily adapted to Ode. It would
> > > > be
> > > > nice if we could reuse that content.
> > > >
> > > > However, Sanjiva, if you think using Confluence wouldn't make use "WS
> > > > projects friendly" then we'd use Maven. But I've used it a bit for other
> > > >
> > > > sites and didn't enjoy much the experience, you spend a lot of time
> > > > formatting -> generating (can be long) -> using f* words -> reformatting
> > > > ...
> > > > I guess it gets better when you're used to it.
> > > >
> > > > Matthieu
> > > >
> > > > On 7/29/06, Bruce Snyder <br...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On 7/28/06, Matthieu Riou <matthieu.riou@gmail.com > wrote:
> > > > > > We need to come up with a solution to generate html for our website
> > > > > (unless
> > > > > > you enjoy hand-typing HTML). My preference would be to use
> > > > Confluence to
> > > > > > publish content. Normally you can't use a wiki as your main website
> > > > in
> > > > > > Apache but somebdoy came up with a Confluence plugin that exports
> > > > your
> > > > > space
> > > > > > when it gets edited. So that would work. A couple of other projects
> > > > > already
> > > > > > use this (like ServiceMix I think).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So before I ask to the infra team for this to be setup, I just
> > > > wanted to
> > > > > > make sure everybody would be happy with that. Alternatives would be
> > > > > Maven,
> > > > > > Anakia or Forrest...
> > > > >
> > > > > I've used both Maven (using APT and XDoc) and the Confluence
> > > > > AutoExport plugin (for ActiveMQ and ServiceMix) and both work nicely.
> > > > > Maven is geared more toward hackers whereas the Confluence AutoExport
> > > > > plugin kind of lowers the barrier of adding content so it's a bit more
> > > > > community friendly I suppose. But I don't have a preference for one
> > > > > over the other. The only thing I would suggest is storing the content
> > > > > in the Subversion repo.
> > > > >
> > > > > Bruce
> > > > > --
> > > > > perl -e 'print
> > > > > unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\"YC;VT*"
> > > > > );'
> > > > >
> > > > > Apache Geronimo - http://geronimo.apache.org/
> > > > > Apache ActiveMQ - http://incubator.apache.org/activemq/
> > > > > Apache ServiceMix - http://incubator.apache.org/servicemix/
> > > > > Castor - http://castor.org/
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > CTO, Intalio
> > > http://www.intalio.com
> > >
>
>


-- 
paulrbrown@gmail.com
http://mult.ifario.us/

Re: Website

[Maciej Szefler <mb...@intalio.com>]

+1 on confluence. 

-mbs

On Wed, 2006-08-02 at 17:25 -0700, Matthieu Riou wrote:
> More opinions? Preferences?
> 
> On 7/31/06, Assaf Arkin <ar...@intalio.com> wrote:
> >
> > +1 on Confluence. It's just so easy to use.
> >
> > Assaf
> >
> >
> > On 7/29/06, Matthieu Riou <matthieu.riou@gmail.com > wrote:
> > >
> > > The thing is there's already some content and guides that have been
> > > written
> > > for PXE under Confluence that could be easily adapted to Ode. It would
> > > be
> > > nice if we could reuse that content.
> > >
> > > However, Sanjiva, if you think using Confluence wouldn't make use "WS
> > > projects friendly" then we'd use Maven. But I've used it a bit for other
> > >
> > > sites and didn't enjoy much the experience, you spend a lot of time
> > > formatting -> generating (can be long) -> using f* words -> reformatting
> > > ...
> > > I guess it gets better when you're used to it.
> > >
> > > Matthieu
> > >
> > > On 7/29/06, Bruce Snyder <br...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On 7/28/06, Matthieu Riou <matthieu.riou@gmail.com > wrote:
> > > > > We need to come up with a solution to generate html for our website
> > > > (unless
> > > > > you enjoy hand-typing HTML). My preference would be to use
> > > Confluence to
> > > > > publish content. Normally you can't use a wiki as your main website
> > > in
> > > > > Apache but somebdoy came up with a Confluence plugin that exports
> > > your
> > > > space
> > > > > when it gets edited. So that would work. A couple of other projects
> > > > already
> > > > > use this (like ServiceMix I think).
> > > > >
> > > > > So before I ask to the infra team for this to be setup, I just
> > > wanted to
> > > > > make sure everybody would be happy with that. Alternatives would be
> > > > Maven,
> > > > > Anakia or Forrest...
> > > >
> > > > I've used both Maven (using APT and XDoc) and the Confluence
> > > > AutoExport plugin (for ActiveMQ and ServiceMix) and both work nicely.
> > > > Maven is geared more toward hackers whereas the Confluence AutoExport
> > > > plugin kind of lowers the barrier of adding content so it's a bit more
> > > > community friendly I suppose. But I don't have a preference for one
> > > > over the other. The only thing I would suggest is storing the content
> > > > in the Subversion repo.
> > > >
> > > > Bruce
> > > > --
> > > > perl -e 'print
> > > > unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\"YC;VT*"
> > > > );'
> > > >
> > > > Apache Geronimo - http://geronimo.apache.org/
> > > > Apache ActiveMQ - http://incubator.apache.org/activemq/
> > > > Apache ServiceMix - http://incubator.apache.org/servicemix/
> > > > Castor - http://castor.org/
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > CTO, Intalio
> > http://www.intalio.com
> >

Re: Website

[Philip Dodds <ph...@gmail.com>]

Certainly my experiences with using Confluence lean toward it makeing an
easier choice for maintainence than APT/m2 sites.

P

On 8/3/06, Lance Waterman <la...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Matthieu,
>
> I don't have experience to draw on, however based on your comments and
> Bruce's comments it sounds like Confluence is a bit more friendly so I
> would
> lean toward that solution.
>
> Lance
>
> On 8/2/06, Matthieu Riou <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > More opinions? Preferences?
> >
> > On 7/31/06, Assaf Arkin <ar...@intalio.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > +1 on Confluence. It's just so easy to use.
> > >
> > > Assaf
> > >
> > >
> > > On 7/29/06, Matthieu Riou <matthieu.riou@gmail.com > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The thing is there's already some content and guides that have been
> > > > written
> > > > for PXE under Confluence that could be easily adapted to Ode. It
> would
> > > > be
> > > > nice if we could reuse that content.
> > > >
> > > > However, Sanjiva, if you think using Confluence wouldn't make use
> "WS
> > > > projects friendly" then we'd use Maven. But I've used it a bit for
> > other
> > > >
> > > > sites and didn't enjoy much the experience, you spend a lot of time
> > > > formatting -> generating (can be long) -> using f* words ->
> > reformatting
> > > > ...
> > > > I guess it gets better when you're used to it.
> > > >
> > > > Matthieu
> > > >
> > > > On 7/29/06, Bruce Snyder <br...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On 7/28/06, Matthieu Riou <matthieu.riou@gmail.com > wrote:
> > > > > > We need to come up with a solution to generate html for our
> > website
> > > > > (unless
> > > > > > you enjoy hand-typing HTML). My preference would be to use
> > > > Confluence to
> > > > > > publish content. Normally you can't use a wiki as your main
> > website
> > > > in
> > > > > > Apache but somebdoy came up with a Confluence plugin that
> exports
> > > > your
> > > > > space
> > > > > > when it gets edited. So that would work. A couple of other
> > projects
> > > > > already
> > > > > > use this (like ServiceMix I think).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So before I ask to the infra team for this to be setup, I just
> > > > wanted to
> > > > > > make sure everybody would be happy with that. Alternatives would
> > be
> > > > > Maven,
> > > > > > Anakia or Forrest...
> > > > >
> > > > > I've used both Maven (using APT and XDoc) and the Confluence
> > > > > AutoExport plugin (for ActiveMQ and ServiceMix) and both work
> > nicely.
> > > > > Maven is geared more toward hackers whereas the Confluence
> > AutoExport
> > > > > plugin kind of lowers the barrier of adding content so it's a bit
> > more
> > > > > community friendly I suppose. But I don't have a preference for
> one
> > > > > over the other. The only thing I would suggest is storing the
> > content
> > > > > in the Subversion repo.
> > > > >
> > > > > Bruce
> > > > > --
> > > > > perl -e 'print
> > > > >
> unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\"YC;VT*"
> > > > > );'
> > > > >
> > > > > Apache Geronimo - http://geronimo.apache.org/
> > > > > Apache ActiveMQ - http://incubator.apache.org/activemq/
> > > > > Apache ServiceMix - http://incubator.apache.org/servicemix/
> > > > > Castor - http://castor.org/
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > CTO, Intalio
> > > http://www.intalio.com
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Re: Website

[Lance Waterman <la...@gmail.com>]

Matthieu,

I don't have experience to draw on, however based on your comments and
Bruce's comments it sounds like Confluence is a bit more friendly so I would
lean toward that solution.

Lance

On 8/2/06, Matthieu Riou <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> More opinions? Preferences?
>
> On 7/31/06, Assaf Arkin <ar...@intalio.com> wrote:
> >
> > +1 on Confluence. It's just so easy to use.
> >
> > Assaf
> >
> >
> > On 7/29/06, Matthieu Riou <matthieu.riou@gmail.com > wrote:
> > >
> > > The thing is there's already some content and guides that have been
> > > written
> > > for PXE under Confluence that could be easily adapted to Ode. It would
> > > be
> > > nice if we could reuse that content.
> > >
> > > However, Sanjiva, if you think using Confluence wouldn't make use "WS
> > > projects friendly" then we'd use Maven. But I've used it a bit for
> other
> > >
> > > sites and didn't enjoy much the experience, you spend a lot of time
> > > formatting -> generating (can be long) -> using f* words ->
> reformatting
> > > ...
> > > I guess it gets better when you're used to it.
> > >
> > > Matthieu
> > >
> > > On 7/29/06, Bruce Snyder <br...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On 7/28/06, Matthieu Riou <matthieu.riou@gmail.com > wrote:
> > > > > We need to come up with a solution to generate html for our
> website
> > > > (unless
> > > > > you enjoy hand-typing HTML). My preference would be to use
> > > Confluence to
> > > > > publish content. Normally you can't use a wiki as your main
> website
> > > in
> > > > > Apache but somebdoy came up with a Confluence plugin that exports
> > > your
> > > > space
> > > > > when it gets edited. So that would work. A couple of other
> projects
> > > > already
> > > > > use this (like ServiceMix I think).
> > > > >
> > > > > So before I ask to the infra team for this to be setup, I just
> > > wanted to
> > > > > make sure everybody would be happy with that. Alternatives would
> be
> > > > Maven,
> > > > > Anakia or Forrest...
> > > >
> > > > I've used both Maven (using APT and XDoc) and the Confluence
> > > > AutoExport plugin (for ActiveMQ and ServiceMix) and both work
> nicely.
> > > > Maven is geared more toward hackers whereas the Confluence
> AutoExport
> > > > plugin kind of lowers the barrier of adding content so it's a bit
> more
> > > > community friendly I suppose. But I don't have a preference for one
> > > > over the other. The only thing I would suggest is storing the
> content
> > > > in the Subversion repo.
> > > >
> > > > Bruce
> > > > --
> > > > perl -e 'print
> > > > unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\"YC;VT*"
> > > > );'
> > > >
> > > > Apache Geronimo - http://geronimo.apache.org/
> > > > Apache ActiveMQ - http://incubator.apache.org/activemq/
> > > > Apache ServiceMix - http://incubator.apache.org/servicemix/
> > > > Castor - http://castor.org/
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > CTO, Intalio
> > http://www.intalio.com
> >
>
>

Re: Website

[Alex Boisvert <bo...@intalio.com>]

My preference is also Confluence.

alex



Matthieu Riou wrote:
> More opinions? Preferences?
>
> On 7/31/06, Assaf Arkin <ar...@intalio.com> wrote:
>>
>> +1 on Confluence. It's just so easy to use.
>>
>> Assaf
>>
>>
>> On 7/29/06, Matthieu Riou <matthieu.riou@gmail.com > wrote:
>> >
>> > The thing is there's already some content and guides that have been
>> > written
>> > for PXE under Confluence that could be easily adapted to Ode. It would
>> > be
>> > nice if we could reuse that content.
>> >
>> > However, Sanjiva, if you think using Confluence wouldn't make use "WS
>> > projects friendly" then we'd use Maven. But I've used it a bit for 
>> other
>> >
>> > sites and didn't enjoy much the experience, you spend a lot of time
>> > formatting -> generating (can be long) -> using f* words -> 
>> reformatting
>> > ...
>> > I guess it gets better when you're used to it.
>> >
>> > Matthieu
>> >
>> > On 7/29/06, Bruce Snyder <br...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > On 7/28/06, Matthieu Riou <matthieu.riou@gmail.com > wrote:
>> > > > We need to come up with a solution to generate html for our 
>> website
>> > > (unless
>> > > > you enjoy hand-typing HTML). My preference would be to use
>> > Confluence to
>> > > > publish content. Normally you can't use a wiki as your main 
>> website
>> > in
>> > > > Apache but somebdoy came up with a Confluence plugin that exports
>> > your
>> > > space
>> > > > when it gets edited. So that would work. A couple of other 
>> projects
>> > > already
>> > > > use this (like ServiceMix I think).
>> > > >
>> > > > So before I ask to the infra team for this to be setup, I just
>> > wanted to
>> > > > make sure everybody would be happy with that. Alternatives 
>> would be
>> > > Maven,
>> > > > Anakia or Forrest...
>> > >
>> > > I've used both Maven (using APT and XDoc) and the Confluence
>> > > AutoExport plugin (for ActiveMQ and ServiceMix) and both work 
>> nicely.
>> > > Maven is geared more toward hackers whereas the Confluence 
>> AutoExport
>> > > plugin kind of lowers the barrier of adding content so it's a bit 
>> more
>> > > community friendly I suppose. But I don't have a preference for one
>> > > over the other. The only thing I would suggest is storing the 
>> content
>> > > in the Subversion repo.
>> > >
>> > > Bruce
>> > > --
>> > > perl -e 'print
>> > > unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\"YC;VT*"
>> > > );'
>> > >
>> > > Apache Geronimo - http://geronimo.apache.org/
>> > > Apache ActiveMQ - http://incubator.apache.org/activemq/
>> > > Apache ServiceMix - http://incubator.apache.org/servicemix/
>> > > Castor - http://castor.org/
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> CTO, Intalio
>> http://www.intalio.com
>>
>

Re: Website

[Matthieu Riou <ma...@gmail.com>]

More opinions? Preferences?

On 7/31/06, Assaf Arkin <ar...@intalio.com> wrote:
>
> +1 on Confluence. It's just so easy to use.
>
> Assaf
>
>
> On 7/29/06, Matthieu Riou <matthieu.riou@gmail.com > wrote:
> >
> > The thing is there's already some content and guides that have been
> > written
> > for PXE under Confluence that could be easily adapted to Ode. It would
> > be
> > nice if we could reuse that content.
> >
> > However, Sanjiva, if you think using Confluence wouldn't make use "WS
> > projects friendly" then we'd use Maven. But I've used it a bit for other
> >
> > sites and didn't enjoy much the experience, you spend a lot of time
> > formatting -> generating (can be long) -> using f* words -> reformatting
> > ...
> > I guess it gets better when you're used to it.
> >
> > Matthieu
> >
> > On 7/29/06, Bruce Snyder <br...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > On 7/28/06, Matthieu Riou <matthieu.riou@gmail.com > wrote:
> > > > We need to come up with a solution to generate html for our website
> > > (unless
> > > > you enjoy hand-typing HTML). My preference would be to use
> > Confluence to
> > > > publish content. Normally you can't use a wiki as your main website
> > in
> > > > Apache but somebdoy came up with a Confluence plugin that exports
> > your
> > > space
> > > > when it gets edited. So that would work. A couple of other projects
> > > already
> > > > use this (like ServiceMix I think).
> > > >
> > > > So before I ask to the infra team for this to be setup, I just
> > wanted to
> > > > make sure everybody would be happy with that. Alternatives would be
> > > Maven,
> > > > Anakia or Forrest...
> > >
> > > I've used both Maven (using APT and XDoc) and the Confluence
> > > AutoExport plugin (for ActiveMQ and ServiceMix) and both work nicely.
> > > Maven is geared more toward hackers whereas the Confluence AutoExport
> > > plugin kind of lowers the barrier of adding content so it's a bit more
> > > community friendly I suppose. But I don't have a preference for one
> > > over the other. The only thing I would suggest is storing the content
> > > in the Subversion repo.
> > >
> > > Bruce
> > > --
> > > perl -e 'print
> > > unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\"YC;VT*"
> > > );'
> > >
> > > Apache Geronimo - http://geronimo.apache.org/
> > > Apache ActiveMQ - http://incubator.apache.org/activemq/
> > > Apache ServiceMix - http://incubator.apache.org/servicemix/
> > > Castor - http://castor.org/
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> CTO, Intalio
> http://www.intalio.com
>

Re: Website

[Assaf Arkin <ar...@intalio.com>]

+1 on Confluence. It's just so easy to use.

Assaf

On 7/29/06, Matthieu Riou <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> The thing is there's already some content and guides that have been
> written
> for PXE under Confluence that could be easily adapted to Ode. It would be
> nice if we could reuse that content.
>
> However, Sanjiva, if you think using Confluence wouldn't make use "WS
> projects friendly" then we'd use Maven. But I've used it a bit for other
> sites and didn't enjoy much the experience, you spend a lot of time
> formatting -> generating (can be long) -> using f* words -> reformatting
> ...
> I guess it gets better when you're used to it.
>
> Matthieu
>
> On 7/29/06, Bruce Snyder <br...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > On 7/28/06, Matthieu Riou <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > We need to come up with a solution to generate html for our website
> > (unless
> > > you enjoy hand-typing HTML). My preference would be to use Confluence
> to
> > > publish content. Normally you can't use a wiki as your main website in
> > > Apache but somebdoy came up with a Confluence plugin that exports your
> > space
> > > when it gets edited. So that would work. A couple of other projects
> > already
> > > use this (like ServiceMix I think).
> > >
> > > So before I ask to the infra team for this to be setup, I just wanted
> to
> > > make sure everybody would be happy with that. Alternatives would be
> > Maven,
> > > Anakia or Forrest...
> >
> > I've used both Maven (using APT and XDoc) and the Confluence
> > AutoExport plugin (for ActiveMQ and ServiceMix) and both work nicely.
> > Maven is geared more toward hackers whereas the Confluence AutoExport
> > plugin kind of lowers the barrier of adding content so it's a bit more
> > community friendly I suppose. But I don't have a preference for one
> > over the other. The only thing I would suggest is storing the content
> > in the Subversion repo.
> >
> > Bruce
> > --
> > perl -e 'print
> > unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\"YC;VT*"
> > );'
> >
> > Apache Geronimo - http://geronimo.apache.org/
> > Apache ActiveMQ - http://incubator.apache.org/activemq/
> > Apache ServiceMix - http://incubator.apache.org/servicemix/
> > Castor - http://castor.org/
> >
>
>


-- 
CTO, Intalio
http://www.intalio.com

Re: Website

[Matthieu Riou <ma...@gmail.com>]

The thing is there's already some content and guides that have been written
for PXE under Confluence that could be easily adapted to Ode. It would be
nice if we could reuse that content.

However, Sanjiva, if you think using Confluence wouldn't make use "WS
projects friendly" then we'd use Maven. But I've used it a bit for other
sites and didn't enjoy much the experience, you spend a lot of time
formatting -> generating (can be long) -> using f* words -> reformatting ...
I guess it gets better when you're used to it.

Matthieu

On 7/29/06, Bruce Snyder <br...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 7/28/06, Matthieu Riou <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > We need to come up with a solution to generate html for our website
> (unless
> > you enjoy hand-typing HTML). My preference would be to use Confluence to
> > publish content. Normally you can't use a wiki as your main website in
> > Apache but somebdoy came up with a Confluence plugin that exports your
> space
> > when it gets edited. So that would work. A couple of other projects
> already
> > use this (like ServiceMix I think).
> >
> > So before I ask to the infra team for this to be setup, I just wanted to
> > make sure everybody would be happy with that. Alternatives would be
> Maven,
> > Anakia or Forrest...
>
> I've used both Maven (using APT and XDoc) and the Confluence
> AutoExport plugin (for ActiveMQ and ServiceMix) and both work nicely.
> Maven is geared more toward hackers whereas the Confluence AutoExport
> plugin kind of lowers the barrier of adding content so it's a bit more
> community friendly I suppose. But I don't have a preference for one
> over the other. The only thing I would suggest is storing the content
> in the Subversion repo.
>
> Bruce
> --
> perl -e 'print
> unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\"YC;VT*"
> );'
>
> Apache Geronimo - http://geronimo.apache.org/
> Apache ActiveMQ - http://incubator.apache.org/activemq/
> Apache ServiceMix - http://incubator.apache.org/servicemix/
> Castor - http://castor.org/
>

Re: Website

[Bruce Snyder <br...@gmail.com>]

On 7/28/06, Matthieu Riou <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> We need to come up with a solution to generate html for our website (unless
> you enjoy hand-typing HTML). My preference would be to use Confluence to
> publish content. Normally you can't use a wiki as your main website in
> Apache but somebdoy came up with a Confluence plugin that exports your space
> when it gets edited. So that would work. A couple of other projects already
> use this (like ServiceMix I think).
>
> So before I ask to the infra team for this to be setup, I just wanted to
> make sure everybody would be happy with that. Alternatives would be Maven,
> Anakia or Forrest...

I've used both Maven (using APT and XDoc) and the Confluence
AutoExport plugin (for ActiveMQ and ServiceMix) and both work nicely.
Maven is geared more toward hackers whereas the Confluence AutoExport
plugin kind of lowers the barrier of adding content so it's a bit more
community friendly I suppose. But I don't have a preference for one
over the other. The only thing I would suggest is storing the content
in the Subversion repo.

Bruce
-- 
perl -e 'print unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\"YC;VT*"
);'

Apache Geronimo - http://geronimo.apache.org/
Apache ActiveMQ - http://incubator.apache.org/activemq/
Apache ServiceMix - http://incubator.apache.org/servicemix/
Castor - http://castor.org/