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cvs commit: httpd-site/xdocs lists.xml usersdelist.xml userslist.xml

erikabele    2003/08/10 10:01:01

  Modified:    docs     lists.html usersdelist.html userslist.html
               xdocs    lists.xml usersdelist.xml userslist.xml
  Log:
  Clean up our list info (archives, etc.) and add links to Gmane.org
  where appropriate.
  
  Revision  Changes    Path
  1.31      +51 -23    httpd-site/docs/lists.html
  
  Index: lists.html
  ===================================================================
  RCS file: /home/cvs/httpd-site/docs/lists.html,v
  retrieving revision 1.30
  retrieving revision 1.31
  diff -u -r1.30 -r1.31
  --- lists.html	2 Feb 2003 17:03:41 -0000	1.30
  +++ lists.html	10 Aug 2003 17:01:00 -0000	1.31
  @@ -66,7 +66,9 @@
   Support</a> mailing lists.  Other lists are for people interested in
   helping with the development and debugging of the server.</p>
   <p>Raw mbox archives for most lists are available at <a href="http://httpd.apache.org/mail/">http://httpd.apache.org/mail/</a>.
  -Formatted archives are available in several places including <a href="http://nagoya.apache.org:8888/">mod_mbox</a> and <a href="http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/">MARC</a>.</p>
  +Formatted archives are available in several places including <a href="http://nagoya.apache.org:8888/">mod_mbox</a> and <a href="http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/">MARC</a>. You can even use the
  +mail-to-news <a href="nntp://news.gmane.org/">gateway</a> offered by <a href="http://news.gmane.org/index.php?match=gmane.comp.apache">GMANE</a>
  +to access most of the lists with a news reader.</p>
   <ul>
        <li><a href="#http-announce">Announcements list</a></li>
        <li><a href="#http-users">User Support and Discussion</a></li>
  @@ -112,20 +114,22 @@
     <td bgcolor="#a0ddf0"><a href="mailto:announce-unsubscribe@httpd.Apache.Org">announce-unsubscribe@httpd.Apache.Org</a></td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
  +  <td bgcolor="#a0ddf0">Getting help with the list:</td>
  +  <td bgcolor="#a0ddf0"><a href="mailto:announce-help@httpd.apache.org">announce-help@httpd.apache.org</a></td>
  + </tr>
  + <tr>
     <td bgcolor="#a0ddf0">Archives:</td>
     <td bgcolor="#a0ddf0">
      <ul>   
       <li>Raw gzipped <a href="http://httpd.apache.org/mail/announce/">mbox files</a></li>
  +    <li><a href="http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=apache-httpd-announce">Mailing list archives</a> at MARC</li>
  +    <li><a href="http://www.geocrawler.com/lists/3/Web/185/0/">Geocrawler</a> (not up-to-date)</li>
       <li>Available back to 27 October 1999.  Send a message to
         <a href="mailto:announce-help@httpd.Apache.Org">announce-help@httpd.Apache.Org</a> for information about accessing
         the archives.</li>
      </ul>
     </td>
    </tr>
  - <tr>
  -  <td bgcolor="#a0ddf0">Getting help with the list:</td>
  -  <td bgcolor="#a0ddf0"><a href="mailto:announce-help@httpd.apache.org">announce-help@httpd.apache.org</a></td>
  - </tr>
   </table>
   </font>
     </blockquote>
  @@ -158,13 +162,13 @@
   <p> In addition, there are a few usenet discussion groups in which
   discussions about the server can be found.  These include: </p>
   <ul>
  -<li>comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix [<a href="news:comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix">nntp</a>] [<a href="http://groups.google.com/groups?group=comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix">google</a>]</li>
  +<li>comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix [<a href="nntp://comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix">nntp</a>] [<a href="http://groups.google.com/groups?group=comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix">google</a>]</li>
   
  -<li>comp.infosystems.www.servers.ms-windows [<a href="news:comp.infosystems.www.servers.ms-windows">nntp</a>] [<a href="http://groups.google.com/groups?group=comp.infosystems.www.servers.ms-windows">google</a>]</li>
  +<li>comp.infosystems.www.servers.ms-windows [<a href="nntp://comp.infosystems.www.servers.ms-windows">nntp</a>] [<a href="http://groups.google.com/groups?group=comp.infosystems.www.servers.ms-windows">google</a>]</li>
   
  -<li>comp.infosystems.www.authoring.cgi [<a href="news:comp.infosystems.www.authoring.cgi">news</a>] [<a href="http://groups.google.com/groups?group=comp.infosystems.www.authoring.cgi">google</a>]</li>
  +<li>comp.infosystems.www.authoring.cgi [<a href="nntp://comp.infosystems.www.authoring.cgi">nntp</a>] [<a href="http://groups.google.com/groups?group=comp.infosystems.www.authoring.cgi">google</a>]</li>
   
  -<li>de.comm.infosystems.www.servers <small>(<i>german</i>)</small> [<a href="news:de.comm.infosystems.www.servers">news</a>] [<a href="http://groups.google.com/groups?de.comm.infosystems.www.servers">google</a>]</li>
  +<li>de.comm.infosystems.www.servers <small>(<i>german</i>)</small> [<a href="nntp://de.comm.infosystems.www.servers">nntp</a>] [<a href="http://groups.google.com/groups?de.comm.infosystems.www.servers">google</a>]</li>
   </ul>
     </blockquote>
    </td></tr>
  @@ -218,14 +222,17 @@
     <td bgcolor="#a0ddf0">
      <ul>   
       <li>Raw gzipped <a href="http://httpd.apache.org/mail/dev/">mbox files</a></li>
  -    <li>Hypermail
  -     <a href="http://www.humanfactor.com/cgi-bin/cgi-delegate/apache-ML/nh/">searchable archive</a> (not always up-to-date)</li>
  -    <li><a href="http://www.geocrawler.com/lists/3/Web/417/0/">Geocrawler</a></li>
  -    <li><a href="http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=apache-new-httpd">Mailing list archives</a> at AIMS</li>
  +    <li><a href="http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=apache-new-httpd">Mailing list archives</a> at MARC</li>
  +    <li><a href="http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40httpd.apache.org/">Mail-Archive.Com</a></li>
  +    <li><a href="http://www.geocrawler.com/lists/3/Web/417/0/">Geocrawler</a> (not up-to-date)</li>
       <li><a href="http://www.egroups.com/group/new-httpd/">eGroups</a></li>
      </ul>
     </td>
    </tr>
  + <tr>
  +  <td bgcolor="#a0ddf0">Mail-To-News gateway:</td>
  +  <td bgcolor="#a0ddf0"><a href="nntp://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.apache.devel">gmane.comp.apache.devel</a></td>
  + </tr>
   </table>
   </font>
     </blockquote>
  @@ -275,10 +282,14 @@
     <td bgcolor="#a0ddf0">
      <ul>
       <li>Raw gzipped <a href="http://httpd.apache.org/mail/bugs/">mbox files</a></li>
  -    <li><a href="http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=apache-httpd-bugs">Mailing list archives</a> at AIMS</li>
  +    <li><a href="http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=apache-httpd-bugs">Mailing list archives</a> at MARC</li>
      </ul>
     </td>
    </tr>
  + <tr>
  +  <td bgcolor="#a0ddf0">Mail-To-News gateway:</td>
  +  <td bgcolor="#a0ddf0"><a href="nntp://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.apache.bugs">gmane.comp.apache.bugs</a></td>
  + </tr>
   </table>
   </font>
     </blockquote>
  @@ -324,11 +335,15 @@
     <td bgcolor="#a0ddf0">
      <ul>
       <li>Raw gzipped <a href="http://httpd.apache.org/mail/cvs/">mbox files</a></li>
  -    <li><a href="http://www.geocrawler.com/lists/3/Web/420/0/">Geocrawler</a></li>
  -    <li><a href="http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=apache-cvs">Mailing list archives</a> at AIMS</li>
  +    <li><a href="http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=apache-cvs">Mailing list archives</a> at MARC</li>
  +    <li><a href="http://www.geocrawler.com/lists/3/Web/420/0/">Geocrawler</a> (not up-to-date)</li>
      </ul>
     </td>
    </tr>
  + <tr>
  +  <td bgcolor="#a0ddf0">Mail-To-News gateway:</td>
  +  <td bgcolor="#a0ddf0"><a href="nntp://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.apache.cvs">gmane.comp.apache.cvs</a></td>
  + </tr>
   </table>
   </font>
     </blockquote>
  @@ -376,11 +391,15 @@
     <td bgcolor="#a0ddf0">
      <ul>
       <li>Raw gzipped <a href="http://httpd.apache.org/mail/docs/">mbox files</a></li>
  -    <li><a href="http://www.geocrawler.com/lists/3/Web/419/0/">Geocrawler</a></li>
  -    <li><a href="http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=apache-docs">Mailing list archives</a> at AIMS</li>
  +    <li><a href="http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=apache-docs">Mailing list archives</a> at MARC</li>
  +    <li><a href="http://www.geocrawler.com/lists/3/Web/419/0/">Geocrawler</a> (not up-to-date)</li>
      </ul>
     </td>
    </tr>
  + <tr>
  +  <td bgcolor="#a0ddf0">Mail-To-News gateway:</td>
  +  <td bgcolor="#a0ddf0"><a href="nntp://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.apache.documentation">gmane.comp.apache.documentation</a></td>
  + </tr>
   </table>
   </font>
     </blockquote>
  @@ -452,10 +471,14 @@
     <td bgcolor="#a0ddf0">
      <ul>
       <li>Raw gzipped <a href="http://www.apache.org/mail/gui-dev/">mbox files</a></li>
  -    <li><a href="http://www.geocrawler.com/lists/3/Web/418/0/">Geocrawler</a></li>
  +    <li><a href="http://www.geocrawler.com/lists/3/Web/418/0/">Geocrawler</a> (not up-to-date)</li>
      </ul>
     </td>
    </tr>
  + <tr>
  +  <td bgcolor="#a0ddf0">Mail-To-News gateway:</td>
  +  <td bgcolor="#a0ddf0"><a href="nntp://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.apache.gui">gmane.comp.apache.gui</a></td>
  + </tr>
   </table>
   </font>
     </blockquote>
  @@ -503,9 +526,14 @@
     <td bgcolor="#a0ddf0">
      <ul>
       <li>Raw gzipped <a href="http://www.apache.org/mail/modproxy-dev/">mbox files</a></li>
  +    <li><a href="http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=apache-modproxy-dev">Mailing list archives</a> at MARC</li>
      </ul>
     </td>
    </tr>
  + <tr>
  +  <td bgcolor="#a0ddf0">Mail-To-News gateway:</td>
  +  <td bgcolor="#a0ddf0"><a href="nntp://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.apache.mod-proxy">gmane.comp.apache.mod-proxy</a></td>
  + </tr>
   </table>
   </font>
     </blockquote>
  @@ -561,8 +589,8 @@
     <td bgcolor="#a0ddf0">
      <ul>
       <li>Raw gzipped <a href="http://httpd.apache.org/mail/current-testers/">mbox files</a></li>
  -    <li><a href="http://www.geocrawler.com/lists/3/Web/186/0/">Geocrawler</a></li>
  -    <li><a href="http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=apache-current-testers">Mailing list archives</a> at AIMS</li>
  +    <li><a href="http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=apache-current-testers">Mailing list archives</a> at MARC</li>
  +    <li><a href="http://www.geocrawler.com/lists/3/Web/186/0/">Geocrawler</a> (not up-to-date)</li>
      </ul>
     </td>
    </tr>
  @@ -618,8 +646,8 @@
     <td bgcolor="#a0ddf0">
      <ul>
       <li>Raw gzipped <a href="http://httpd.apache.org/mail/stable-testers/">mbox files</a></li>
  -    <li><a href="http://www.geocrawler.com/lists/3/Web/190/0/">Geocrawler</a></li>
  -    <li><a href="http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=apache-current-testers">Mailing list archives</a> at AIMS</li>
  +    <li><a href="http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=apache-stable-testers">Mailing list archives</a> at MARC</li>
  +    <li><a href="http://www.geocrawler.com/lists/3/Web/190/0/">Geocrawler</a> (not up-to-date)</li>
      </ul>
     </td>
    </tr>
  
  
  
  1.10      +3 -2      httpd-site/docs/usersdelist.html
  
  Index: usersdelist.html
  ===================================================================
  RCS file: /home/cvs/httpd-site/docs/usersdelist.html,v
  retrieving revision 1.9
  retrieving revision 1.10
  diff -u -r1.9 -r1.10
  --- usersdelist.html	2 Feb 2003 17:03:41 -0000	1.9
  +++ usersdelist.html	10 Aug 2003 17:01:00 -0000	1.10
  @@ -146,8 +146,9 @@
    </td></tr>
    <tr><td>
     <blockquote>
  -<p>Archives are not yet, but will be available at <a href="http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=apache-httpd-users-de">AIMS</a>, <a href="http://www.apachelabs.org/httpd-users-de/">ApacheLabs</a> or in <a href="http://httpd.apache.org/mail/users-de/">raw mbox format</a>.  If
  -you can contribute a mirror archive, please let us know.</p>
  +<p>Archives are available at <a href="http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=apache-httpd-users-de">MARC</a>
  +or in <a href="http://httpd.apache.org/mail/users-de/">raw mbox format</a>.
  +If you can contribute a mirror archive, please let us know.</p>
   <p>In addition, you can search the
   <a href="http://groups.google.de/groups?q=comp.infosystems.www.servers">English</a>
   or
  
  
  
  1.24      +7 -5      httpd-site/docs/userslist.html
  
  Index: userslist.html
  ===================================================================
  RCS file: /home/cvs/httpd-site/docs/userslist.html,v
  retrieving revision 1.23
  retrieving revision 1.24
  diff -u -r1.23 -r1.24
  --- userslist.html	2 Feb 2003 17:03:41 -0000	1.23
  +++ userslist.html	10 Aug 2003 17:01:00 -0000	1.24
  @@ -171,11 +171,13 @@
    </td></tr>
    <tr><td>
     <blockquote>
  -<p>Archives are available at <a href="http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=apache-httpd-users">AIMS</a>, <a href="http://www.apachelabs.org/">ApacheLabs</a> or in <a href="http://httpd.apache.org/mail/users/">raw mbox format</a>.  If
  -you can contribute a mirror archive, please let us know.</p>
  -<p>In addition, you can search the <a href="http://groups.google.com/groups?group=comp.infosystems.www.servers">usenet
  -newsgroups</a> for a much larger archive of Apache-related
  -postings.</p>
  +<p>Archives are available at <a href="http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=apache-httpd-users">MARC</a>
  +or in <a href="http://httpd.apache.org/mail/users/">raw mbox format</a>.
  +If you can contribute a mirror archive, please let us know.</p>
  +<p>In addition, you can access this mailing list with the mail-to-news
  +<a href="nntp://news.gmane.org/">gateway</a> offered by <a href="http://news.gmane.org/index.php?match=gmane.comp.apache">GMANE</a>
  +[<a href="nntp://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.apache.user">gmane.comp.apache.user</a>] or search the <a href="http://groups.google.com/groups?group=comp.infosystems.www.servers">usenet
  +newsgroups</a> for a much larger archive of Apache-related postings.</p>
     </blockquote>
    </td></tr>
   </table>
  
  
  
  1.20      +68 -40    httpd-site/xdocs/lists.xml
  
  Index: lists.xml
  ===================================================================
  RCS file: /home/cvs/httpd-site/xdocs/lists.xml,v
  retrieving revision 1.19
  retrieving revision 1.20
  diff -u -r1.19 -r1.20
  --- lists.xml	2 Feb 2003 17:03:41 -0000	1.19
  +++ lists.xml	10 Aug 2003 17:01:00 -0000	1.20
  @@ -18,10 +18,10 @@
   href="http://httpd.apache.org/mail/">http://httpd.apache.org/mail/</a>.
   Formatted archives are available in several places including <a
   href="http://nagoya.apache.org:8888/">mod_mbox</a> and <a
  -href="http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/">MARC</a>.</p>
  -
  -
  -
  +href="http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/">MARC</a>. You can even use the
  +mail-to-news <a href="nntp://news.gmane.org/">gateway</a> offered by <a
  +href="http://news.gmane.org/index.php?match=gmane.comp.apache">GMANE</a>
  +to access most of the lists with a news reader.</p>
   
       <ul>
        <li><a href="#http-announce">Announcements list</a></li>
  @@ -39,7 +39,6 @@
            >Testers of the latest about-to-be-released version</a></li>
       </ul>
   
  -
   </section>
   <section id="http-announce"><title>Apache Server Announcements</title>
   <p>
  @@ -64,11 +63,20 @@
         >announce-unsubscribe@httpd.Apache.Org</a></td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
  +  <td>Getting help with the list:</td>
  +  <td><a href="mailto:announce-help@httpd.apache.org"
  +      >announce-help@httpd.apache.org</a></td>
  + </tr>
  + <tr>
     <td>Archives:</td>
     <td>
      <ul>   
       <li>Raw gzipped <a href="http://httpd.apache.org/mail/announce/"
                       >mbox files</a></li>
  +    <li><a href="http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=apache-httpd-announce"
  +        >Mailing list archives</a> at MARC</li>
  +    <li><a href="http://www.geocrawler.com/lists/3/Web/185/0/"
  +        >Geocrawler</a> (not up-to-date)</li>
       <li>Available back to 27 October 1999.  Send a message to
         <a href="mailto:announce-help@httpd.Apache.Org"
         >announce-help@httpd.Apache.Org</a> for information about accessing
  @@ -76,11 +84,6 @@
      </ul>
     </td>
    </tr>
  - <tr>
  -  <td>Getting help with the list:</td>
  -  <td><a href="mailto:announce-help@httpd.apache.org"
  -      >announce-help@httpd.apache.org</a></td>
  - </tr>
   </table>
   </section>
   
  @@ -112,19 +115,19 @@
   
   <ul>
   <li>comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix [<a
  -href="news:comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix">nntp</a>] [<a
  +href="nntp://comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix">nntp</a>] [<a
   href="http://groups.google.com/groups?group=comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix">google</a>]</li>
   
   <li>comp.infosystems.www.servers.ms-windows [<a
  -href="news:comp.infosystems.www.servers.ms-windows">nntp</a>] [<a
  +href="nntp://comp.infosystems.www.servers.ms-windows">nntp</a>] [<a
   href="http://groups.google.com/groups?group=comp.infosystems.www.servers.ms-windows">google</a>]</li>
   
   <li>comp.infosystems.www.authoring.cgi [<a
  -href="news:comp.infosystems.www.authoring.cgi">news</a>] [<a
  +href="nntp://comp.infosystems.www.authoring.cgi">nntp</a>] [<a
   href="http://groups.google.com/groups?group=comp.infosystems.www.authoring.cgi">google</a>]</li>
   
   <li>de.comm.infosystems.www.servers <small>(<i>german</i>)</small> [<a
  -href="news:de.comm.infosystems.www.servers">news</a>] [<a
  +href="nntp://de.comm.infosystems.www.servers">nntp</a>] [<a
   href="http://groups.google.com/groups?de.comm.infosystems.www.servers">google</a>]</li>
   </ul>
   
  @@ -177,17 +180,21 @@
      <ul>   
       <li>Raw gzipped <a href="http://httpd.apache.org/mail/dev/"
                       >mbox files</a></li>
  -    <li>Hypermail
  -     <a href="http://www.humanfactor.com/cgi-bin/cgi-delegate/apache-ML/nh/"
  -     >searchable archive</a> (not always up-to-date)</li>
  -    <li><a href="http://www.geocrawler.com/lists/3/Web/417/0/"
  -        >Geocrawler</a></li>
       <li><a href="http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=apache-new-httpd"
  -        >Mailing list archives</a> at AIMS</li>
  +        >Mailing list archives</a> at MARC</li>
  +    <li><a href="http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40httpd.apache.org/"
  +        >Mail-Archive.Com</a></li>
  +    <li><a href="http://www.geocrawler.com/lists/3/Web/417/0/"
  +        >Geocrawler</a> (not up-to-date)</li>
       <li><a href="http://www.egroups.com/group/new-httpd/">eGroups</a></li>
      </ul>
     </td>
    </tr>
  + <tr>
  +  <td>Mail-To-News gateway:</td>
  +  <td><a href="nntp://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.apache.devel"
  +      >gmane.comp.apache.devel</a></td>
  + </tr>
   </table>
   </section>
   
  @@ -235,10 +242,15 @@
       <li>Raw gzipped <a href="http://httpd.apache.org/mail/bugs/"
                       >mbox files</a></li>
       <li><a href="http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=apache-httpd-bugs"
  -        >Mailing list archives</a> at AIMS</li>
  +        >Mailing list archives</a> at MARC</li>
      </ul>
     </td>
    </tr>
  + <tr>
  +  <td>Mail-To-News gateway:</td>
  +  <td><a href="nntp://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.apache.bugs"
  +      >gmane.comp.apache.bugs</a></td>
  + </tr>
   </table>
   </section>
   
  @@ -278,13 +290,18 @@
      <ul>
       <li>Raw gzipped <a href="http://httpd.apache.org/mail/cvs/"
                       >mbox files</a></li>
  -    <li><a href="http://www.geocrawler.com/lists/3/Web/420/0/"
  -        >Geocrawler</a></li>
       <li><a href="http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=apache-cvs"
  -        >Mailing list archives</a> at AIMS</li>
  +        >Mailing list archives</a> at MARC</li>
  +    <li><a href="http://www.geocrawler.com/lists/3/Web/420/0/"
  +        >Geocrawler</a> (not up-to-date)</li>
      </ul>
     </td>
    </tr>
  + <tr>
  +  <td>Mail-To-News gateway:</td>
  +  <td><a href="nntp://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.apache.cvs"
  +      >gmane.comp.apache.cvs</a></td>
  + </tr>
   </table>
   </section>
   
  @@ -326,13 +343,18 @@
      <ul>
       <li>Raw gzipped <a href="http://httpd.apache.org/mail/docs/"
                       >mbox files</a></li>
  -    <li><a href="http://www.geocrawler.com/lists/3/Web/419/0/"
  -        >Geocrawler</a></li>
       <li><a href="http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=apache-docs"
  -        >Mailing list archives</a> at AIMS</li>
  +        >Mailing list archives</a> at MARC</li>
  +    <li><a href="http://www.geocrawler.com/lists/3/Web/419/0/"
  +        >Geocrawler</a> (not up-to-date)</li>
      </ul>
     </td>
    </tr>
  + <tr>
  +  <td>Mail-To-News gateway:</td>
  +  <td><a href="nntp://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.apache.documentation"
  +      >gmane.comp.apache.documentation</a></td>
  + </tr>
   </table>
   </section>
   
  @@ -391,10 +413,15 @@
       <li>Raw gzipped <a href="http://www.apache.org/mail/gui-dev/"
                       >mbox files</a></li>
       <li><a href="http://www.geocrawler.com/lists/3/Web/418/0/"
  -        >Geocrawler</a></li>
  +        >Geocrawler</a> (not up-to-date)</li>
      </ul>
     </td>
    </tr>
  + <tr>
  +  <td>Mail-To-News gateway:</td>
  +  <td><a href="nntp://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.apache.gui"
  +      >gmane.comp.apache.gui</a></td>
  + </tr>
   </table>
   </section>
   
  @@ -438,9 +465,16 @@
      <ul>
       <li>Raw gzipped <a href="http://www.apache.org/mail/modproxy-dev/"
                       >mbox files</a></li>
  +    <li><a href="http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=apache-modproxy-dev"
  +        >Mailing list archives</a> at MARC</li>
      </ul>
     </td>
    </tr>
  + <tr>
  +  <td>Mail-To-News gateway:</td>
  +  <td><a href="nntp://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.apache.mod-proxy"
  +      >gmane.comp.apache.mod-proxy</a></td>
  + </tr>
   </table>
   </section>
   
  @@ -490,10 +524,10 @@
      <ul>
       <li>Raw gzipped <a href="http://httpd.apache.org/mail/current-testers/"
                       >mbox files</a></li>
  -    <li><a href="http://www.geocrawler.com/lists/3/Web/186/0/"
  -        >Geocrawler</a></li>
       <li><a href="http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=apache-current-testers"
  -        >Mailing list archives</a> at AIMS</li>
  +        >Mailing list archives</a> at MARC</li>
  +    <li><a href="http://www.geocrawler.com/lists/3/Web/186/0/"
  +        >Geocrawler</a> (not up-to-date)</li>
      </ul>
     </td>
    </tr>
  @@ -543,21 +577,15 @@
      <ul>
       <li>Raw gzipped <a href="http://httpd.apache.org/mail/stable-testers/"
                       >mbox files</a></li>
  +    <li><a href="http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=apache-stable-testers"
  +        >Mailing list archives</a> at MARC</li>
       <li><a href="http://www.geocrawler.com/lists/3/Web/190/0/"
  -        >Geocrawler</a></li>
  -    <li><a href="http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=apache-current-testers"
  -        >Mailing list archives</a> at AIMS</li>
  +        >Geocrawler</a> (not up-to-date)</li>
      </ul>
     </td>
    </tr>
   </table>
   </section>
  -<!-- ### -->
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  -      licensing, mirrors, modproxy-dev, security
  -      Also: apache-users, apache-server, and apache-modules at
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   </document>
  
  
  
  1.3       +4 -5      httpd-site/xdocs/usersdelist.xml
  
  Index: usersdelist.xml
  ===================================================================
  RCS file: /home/cvs/httpd-site/xdocs/usersdelist.xml,v
  retrieving revision 1.2
  retrieving revision 1.3
  diff -u -r1.2 -r1.3
  --- usersdelist.xml	2 Feb 2003 17:03:41 -0000	1.2
  +++ usersdelist.xml	10 Aug 2003 17:01:00 -0000	1.3
  @@ -81,11 +81,10 @@
   <section id="archives">
   <title>Archives</title>
   
  -<p>Archives are not yet, but will be available at <a
  -href="http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=apache-httpd-users-de">AIMS</a>, <a
  -href="http://www.apachelabs.org/httpd-users-de/">ApacheLabs</a> or in <a
  -href="http://httpd.apache.org/mail/users-de/">raw mbox format</a>.  If
  -you can contribute a mirror archive, please let us know.</p>
  +<p>Archives are available at <a
  +href="http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=apache-httpd-users-de">MARC</a>
  +or in <a href="http://httpd.apache.org/mail/users-de/">raw mbox format</a>.
  +If you can contribute a mirror archive, please let us know.</p>
   
   <p>In addition, you can search the
   <a href="http://groups.google.de/groups?q=comp.infosystems.www.servers">English</a>
  
  
  
  1.11      +9 -7      httpd-site/xdocs/userslist.xml
  
  Index: userslist.xml
  ===================================================================
  RCS file: /home/cvs/httpd-site/xdocs/userslist.xml,v
  retrieving revision 1.10
  retrieving revision 1.11
  diff -u -r1.10 -r1.11
  --- userslist.xml	2 Feb 2003 17:03:41 -0000	1.10
  +++ userslist.xml	10 Aug 2003 17:01:00 -0000	1.11
  @@ -102,15 +102,17 @@
   <title>Archives</title>
   
   <p>Archives are available at <a
  -href="http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=apache-httpd-users">AIMS</a>, <a
  -href="http://www.apachelabs.org/">ApacheLabs</a> or in <a
  -href="http://httpd.apache.org/mail/users/">raw mbox format</a>.  If
  -you can contribute a mirror archive, please let us know.</p>
  +href="http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=apache-httpd-users">MARC</a>
  +or in <a href="http://httpd.apache.org/mail/users/">raw mbox format</a>.
  +If you can contribute a mirror archive, please let us know.</p>
   
  -<p>In addition, you can search the <a
  +<p>In addition, you can access this mailing list with the mail-to-news
  +<a href="nntp://news.gmane.org/">gateway</a> offered by <a
  +href="http://news.gmane.org/index.php?match=gmane.comp.apache">GMANE</a>
  +[<a href="nntp://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.apache.user"
  +>gmane.comp.apache.user</a>] or search the <a
   href="http://groups.google.com/groups?group=comp.infosystems.www.servers">usenet
  -newsgroups</a> for a much larger archive of Apache-related
  -postings.</p>
  +newsgroups</a> for a much larger archive of Apache-related postings.</p>
   
   </section>
   </body>