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Two Insights from the logo survey comments
I've been going through the thousands of comments received in the
survey, trying to make sense of them. Here are two things I thought
were interesting and worth discussing:
1) The number "4" appears to be unlucky in China, Japan and Korea.
Sometimes product their will even skip over version 4 of a product and
go directly to 5. (In other cultures 13 is unlucky, and hotels will
not have a 13th floor).
So the feedback was that we might not want to have a "4" be too
prominent or central in the logo.
2) Some users suggested that a prominent "TM" trademark symbol was
seen as conflicting with the openness theme.
Regards,
-Rob
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Re: Two Insights from the logo survey comments
Posted by Kadal Amutham <vk...@gmail.com>.
To make 4 luckier, you can add a decimal like 4.01
With Warm Regards
V.Kadal Amutham
919444360480
914422396480
On 11 May 2013 18:11, Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org> wrote:
> I've been going through the thousands of comments received in the
> survey, trying to make sense of them. Here are two things I thought
> were interesting and worth discussing:
>
>
> 1) The number "4" appears to be unlucky in China, Japan and Korea.
> Sometimes product their will even skip over version 4 of a product and
> go directly to 5. (In other cultures 13 is unlucky, and hotels will
> not have a 13th floor).
>
> So the feedback was that we might not want to have a "4" be too
> prominent or central in the logo.
>
> 2) Some users suggested that a prominent "TM" trademark symbol was
> seen as conflicting with the openness theme.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> -Rob
>
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Re: Two Insights from the logo survey comments
Posted by Samer Mansour <sa...@gmail.com>.
done
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 4:03 PM, Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org> wrote:
> On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 1:41 PM, Samer Mansour <sa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I've sent Rob my proposal
> >
> > This is a quick look at the alteration.
> > http://imagebin.org/257532
> >
> > - Adjusted the dot in the character i so it wouldn't collide into the f's
> > when scaled down.
> > - Spacing of f's kept the same, even though I wanted to join them they
> just
> > didn't look right after wards.
> > - TM less prominent.
> > - Apache less prominent with a grey font colour, as per comments, people
> > who liked it as a 4 said the apache stuck out too much, I'm hoping this
> > would have won their 5 had I done it before.
> >
>
> Hi Samer,
>
> You should add your image to this wiki page:
>
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Stage+2+Logo+Refinement
>
> Thanks!
>
> -Rob
>
>
> > On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 11:52 PM, Kadal Amutham <vk...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Can you send the original file to me? ( vkadal@gmail.com ) I will try
> my
> >> way of adjusting
> >>
> >> With Warm Regards
> >>
> >> V.Kadal Amutham
> >> 919444360480
> >> 914422396480
> >>
> >>
> >> On 13 May 2013 09:18, Samer Mansour <sa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > sorry everyone i've been crawling and scraping to get some personal
> work
> >> > completed.
> >> >
> >> > I haven't read all the comments, and i haven't seen the comments for
> >> other
> >> > top logos. So I will have a better idea once that is done.
> >> >
> >> > But for what I saw last week, this is what I will be submitting:
> >> > - Single logo, the thinner font one.
> >> > - Adjusting the TM to not be prominent.
> >> > - Adjusting the character spacing slightly better. I liked the
> spacing in
> >> > roboto most but I think I'm drawn to technical looking fonts.
> >> >
> >> > I will try to have this done by 1pm EST time monday (over my lunch
> hour).
> >> > On May 11, 2013 10:48 AM, "Rob Weir" <ro...@apache.org> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 9:30 AM, Dave Fisher <wa...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >> > > > Rob,
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Thanks for your efforts here.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > On May 11, 2013, at 8:41 AM, Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org> wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > >> I've been going through the thousands of comments received in the
> >> > > >> survey, trying to make sense of them. Here are two things I
> thought
> >> > > >> were interesting and worth discussing:
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> 1) The number "4" appears to be unlucky in China, Japan and
> Korea.
> >> > > >> Sometimes product their will even skip over version 4 of a
> product
> >> and
> >> > > >> go directly to 5. (In other cultures 13 is unlucky, and hotels
> >> will
> >> > > >> not have a 13th floor).
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> So the feedback was that we might not want to have a "4" be too
> >> > > >> prominent or central in the logo.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > I think that this is a strong point. Why tie the logotype to the
> >> > version?
> >> > > >
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> 2) Some users suggested that a prominent "TM" trademark symbol
> was
> >> > > >> seen as conflicting with the openness theme.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > A TM is important for protecting the brand and it is something
> that
> >> the
> >> > > ASF has requested from all projects. It does not have to be
> prominent,
> >> > but
> >> > > ought to be present.
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Exactly. We need it there, but it doesn't need to be part of the
> >> > > design. If we wanted we could do it like Starbucks does on their
> >> > > logo.
> >> > >
> >> > > No guarantees this page is the same in all countries, but look at
> >> > > upper left here:
> >> > >
> >> > > http://www.starbucks.com/
> >> > >
> >> > > With their log the TM is not part of the design but placed in the
> >> border.
> >> > >
> >> > > -Rob
> >> > >
> >> > > > Regards,
> >> > > > Dave
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> Regards,
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> -Rob
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >>
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Re: Two Insights from the logo survey comments
Posted by Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>.
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 1:41 PM, Samer Mansour <sa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I've sent Rob my proposal
>
> This is a quick look at the alteration.
> http://imagebin.org/257532
>
> - Adjusted the dot in the character i so it wouldn't collide into the f's
> when scaled down.
> - Spacing of f's kept the same, even though I wanted to join them they just
> didn't look right after wards.
> - TM less prominent.
> - Apache less prominent with a grey font colour, as per comments, people
> who liked it as a 4 said the apache stuck out too much, I'm hoping this
> would have won their 5 had I done it before.
>
Hi Samer,
You should add your image to this wiki page:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Stage+2+Logo+Refinement
Thanks!
-Rob
> On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 11:52 PM, Kadal Amutham <vk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Can you send the original file to me? ( vkadal@gmail.com ) I will try my
>> way of adjusting
>>
>> With Warm Regards
>>
>> V.Kadal Amutham
>> 919444360480
>> 914422396480
>>
>>
>> On 13 May 2013 09:18, Samer Mansour <sa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > sorry everyone i've been crawling and scraping to get some personal work
>> > completed.
>> >
>> > I haven't read all the comments, and i haven't seen the comments for
>> other
>> > top logos. So I will have a better idea once that is done.
>> >
>> > But for what I saw last week, this is what I will be submitting:
>> > - Single logo, the thinner font one.
>> > - Adjusting the TM to not be prominent.
>> > - Adjusting the character spacing slightly better. I liked the spacing in
>> > roboto most but I think I'm drawn to technical looking fonts.
>> >
>> > I will try to have this done by 1pm EST time monday (over my lunch hour).
>> > On May 11, 2013 10:48 AM, "Rob Weir" <ro...@apache.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > > On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 9:30 AM, Dave Fisher <wa...@apache.org> wrote:
>> > > > Rob,
>> > > >
>> > > > Thanks for your efforts here.
>> > > >
>> > > > On May 11, 2013, at 8:41 AM, Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > >> I've been going through the thousands of comments received in the
>> > > >> survey, trying to make sense of them. Here are two things I thought
>> > > >> were interesting and worth discussing:
>> > > >>
>> > > >>
>> > > >> 1) The number "4" appears to be unlucky in China, Japan and Korea.
>> > > >> Sometimes product their will even skip over version 4 of a product
>> and
>> > > >> go directly to 5. (In other cultures 13 is unlucky, and hotels
>> will
>> > > >> not have a 13th floor).
>> > > >>
>> > > >> So the feedback was that we might not want to have a "4" be too
>> > > >> prominent or central in the logo.
>> > > >
>> > > > I think that this is a strong point. Why tie the logotype to the
>> > version?
>> > > >
>> > > >>
>> > > >> 2) Some users suggested that a prominent "TM" trademark symbol was
>> > > >> seen as conflicting with the openness theme.
>> > > >
>> > > > A TM is important for protecting the brand and it is something that
>> the
>> > > ASF has requested from all projects. It does not have to be prominent,
>> > but
>> > > ought to be present.
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > > Exactly. We need it there, but it doesn't need to be part of the
>> > > design. If we wanted we could do it like Starbucks does on their
>> > > logo.
>> > >
>> > > No guarantees this page is the same in all countries, but look at
>> > > upper left here:
>> > >
>> > > http://www.starbucks.com/
>> > >
>> > > With their log the TM is not part of the design but placed in the
>> border.
>> > >
>> > > -Rob
>> > >
>> > > > Regards,
>> > > > Dave
>> > > >>
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Regards,
>> > > >>
>> > > >> -Rob
>> > > >>
>> > > >>
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Re: Two Insights from the logo survey comments
Posted by Samer Mansour <sa...@gmail.com>.
I've sent Rob my proposal
This is a quick look at the alteration.
http://imagebin.org/257532
- Adjusted the dot in the character i so it wouldn't collide into the f's
when scaled down.
- Spacing of f's kept the same, even though I wanted to join them they just
didn't look right after wards.
- TM less prominent.
- Apache less prominent with a grey font colour, as per comments, people
who liked it as a 4 said the apache stuck out too much, I'm hoping this
would have won their 5 had I done it before.
On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 11:52 PM, Kadal Amutham <vk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Can you send the original file to me? ( vkadal@gmail.com ) I will try my
> way of adjusting
>
> With Warm Regards
>
> V.Kadal Amutham
> 919444360480
> 914422396480
>
>
> On 13 May 2013 09:18, Samer Mansour <sa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > sorry everyone i've been crawling and scraping to get some personal work
> > completed.
> >
> > I haven't read all the comments, and i haven't seen the comments for
> other
> > top logos. So I will have a better idea once that is done.
> >
> > But for what I saw last week, this is what I will be submitting:
> > - Single logo, the thinner font one.
> > - Adjusting the TM to not be prominent.
> > - Adjusting the character spacing slightly better. I liked the spacing in
> > roboto most but I think I'm drawn to technical looking fonts.
> >
> > I will try to have this done by 1pm EST time monday (over my lunch hour).
> > On May 11, 2013 10:48 AM, "Rob Weir" <ro...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > > On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 9:30 AM, Dave Fisher <wa...@apache.org> wrote:
> > > > Rob,
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for your efforts here.
> > > >
> > > > On May 11, 2013, at 8:41 AM, Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> I've been going through the thousands of comments received in the
> > > >> survey, trying to make sense of them. Here are two things I thought
> > > >> were interesting and worth discussing:
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> 1) The number "4" appears to be unlucky in China, Japan and Korea.
> > > >> Sometimes product their will even skip over version 4 of a product
> and
> > > >> go directly to 5. (In other cultures 13 is unlucky, and hotels
> will
> > > >> not have a 13th floor).
> > > >>
> > > >> So the feedback was that we might not want to have a "4" be too
> > > >> prominent or central in the logo.
> > > >
> > > > I think that this is a strong point. Why tie the logotype to the
> > version?
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >> 2) Some users suggested that a prominent "TM" trademark symbol was
> > > >> seen as conflicting with the openness theme.
> > > >
> > > > A TM is important for protecting the brand and it is something that
> the
> > > ASF has requested from all projects. It does not have to be prominent,
> > but
> > > ought to be present.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Exactly. We need it there, but it doesn't need to be part of the
> > > design. If we wanted we could do it like Starbucks does on their
> > > logo.
> > >
> > > No guarantees this page is the same in all countries, but look at
> > > upper left here:
> > >
> > > http://www.starbucks.com/
> > >
> > > With their log the TM is not part of the design but placed in the
> border.
> > >
> > > -Rob
> > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Dave
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Regards,
> > > >>
> > > >> -Rob
> > > >>
> > > >>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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> > > >>
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Re: Two Insights from the logo survey comments
Posted by Kadal Amutham <vk...@gmail.com>.
Can you send the original file to me? ( vkadal@gmail.com ) I will try my
way of adjusting
With Warm Regards
V.Kadal Amutham
919444360480
914422396480
On 13 May 2013 09:18, Samer Mansour <sa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> sorry everyone i've been crawling and scraping to get some personal work
> completed.
>
> I haven't read all the comments, and i haven't seen the comments for other
> top logos. So I will have a better idea once that is done.
>
> But for what I saw last week, this is what I will be submitting:
> - Single logo, the thinner font one.
> - Adjusting the TM to not be prominent.
> - Adjusting the character spacing slightly better. I liked the spacing in
> roboto most but I think I'm drawn to technical looking fonts.
>
> I will try to have this done by 1pm EST time monday (over my lunch hour).
> On May 11, 2013 10:48 AM, "Rob Weir" <ro...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 9:30 AM, Dave Fisher <wa...@apache.org> wrote:
> > > Rob,
> > >
> > > Thanks for your efforts here.
> > >
> > > On May 11, 2013, at 8:41 AM, Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org> wrote:
> > >
> > >> I've been going through the thousands of comments received in the
> > >> survey, trying to make sense of them. Here are two things I thought
> > >> were interesting and worth discussing:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> 1) The number "4" appears to be unlucky in China, Japan and Korea.
> > >> Sometimes product their will even skip over version 4 of a product and
> > >> go directly to 5. (In other cultures 13 is unlucky, and hotels will
> > >> not have a 13th floor).
> > >>
> > >> So the feedback was that we might not want to have a "4" be too
> > >> prominent or central in the logo.
> > >
> > > I think that this is a strong point. Why tie the logotype to the
> version?
> > >
> > >>
> > >> 2) Some users suggested that a prominent "TM" trademark symbol was
> > >> seen as conflicting with the openness theme.
> > >
> > > A TM is important for protecting the brand and it is something that the
> > ASF has requested from all projects. It does not have to be prominent,
> but
> > ought to be present.
> > >
> >
> > Exactly. We need it there, but it doesn't need to be part of the
> > design. If we wanted we could do it like Starbucks does on their
> > logo.
> >
> > No guarantees this page is the same in all countries, but look at
> > upper left here:
> >
> > http://www.starbucks.com/
> >
> > With their log the TM is not part of the design but placed in the border.
> >
> > -Rob
> >
> > > Regards,
> > > Dave
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Regards,
> > >>
> > >> -Rob
> > >>
> > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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> > >>
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Re: Two Insights from the logo survey comments
Posted by Samer Mansour <sa...@gmail.com>.
sorry everyone i've been crawling and scraping to get some personal work
completed.
I haven't read all the comments, and i haven't seen the comments for other
top logos. So I will have a better idea once that is done.
But for what I saw last week, this is what I will be submitting:
- Single logo, the thinner font one.
- Adjusting the TM to not be prominent.
- Adjusting the character spacing slightly better. I liked the spacing in
roboto most but I think I'm drawn to technical looking fonts.
I will try to have this done by 1pm EST time monday (over my lunch hour).
On May 11, 2013 10:48 AM, "Rob Weir" <ro...@apache.org> wrote:
> On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 9:30 AM, Dave Fisher <wa...@apache.org> wrote:
> > Rob,
> >
> > Thanks for your efforts here.
> >
> > On May 11, 2013, at 8:41 AM, Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> >> I've been going through the thousands of comments received in the
> >> survey, trying to make sense of them. Here are two things I thought
> >> were interesting and worth discussing:
> >>
> >>
> >> 1) The number "4" appears to be unlucky in China, Japan and Korea.
> >> Sometimes product their will even skip over version 4 of a product and
> >> go directly to 5. (In other cultures 13 is unlucky, and hotels will
> >> not have a 13th floor).
> >>
> >> So the feedback was that we might not want to have a "4" be too
> >> prominent or central in the logo.
> >
> > I think that this is a strong point. Why tie the logotype to the version?
> >
> >>
> >> 2) Some users suggested that a prominent "TM" trademark symbol was
> >> seen as conflicting with the openness theme.
> >
> > A TM is important for protecting the brand and it is something that the
> ASF has requested from all projects. It does not have to be prominent, but
> ought to be present.
> >
>
> Exactly. We need it there, but it doesn't need to be part of the
> design. If we wanted we could do it like Starbucks does on their
> logo.
>
> No guarantees this page is the same in all countries, but look at
> upper left here:
>
> http://www.starbucks.com/
>
> With their log the TM is not part of the design but placed in the border.
>
> -Rob
>
> > Regards,
> > Dave
> >>
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> -Rob
> >>
> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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> >>
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Re: Two Insights from the logo survey comments
Posted by Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>.
On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 9:30 AM, Dave Fisher <wa...@apache.org> wrote:
> Rob,
>
> Thanks for your efforts here.
>
> On May 11, 2013, at 8:41 AM, Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> I've been going through the thousands of comments received in the
>> survey, trying to make sense of them. Here are two things I thought
>> were interesting and worth discussing:
>>
>>
>> 1) The number "4" appears to be unlucky in China, Japan and Korea.
>> Sometimes product their will even skip over version 4 of a product and
>> go directly to 5. (In other cultures 13 is unlucky, and hotels will
>> not have a 13th floor).
>>
>> So the feedback was that we might not want to have a "4" be too
>> prominent or central in the logo.
>
> I think that this is a strong point. Why tie the logotype to the version?
>
>>
>> 2) Some users suggested that a prominent "TM" trademark symbol was
>> seen as conflicting with the openness theme.
>
> A TM is important for protecting the brand and it is something that the ASF has requested from all projects. It does not have to be prominent, but ought to be present.
>
Exactly. We need it there, but it doesn't need to be part of the
design. If we wanted we could do it like Starbucks does on their
logo.
No guarantees this page is the same in all countries, but look at
upper left here:
http://www.starbucks.com/
With their log the TM is not part of the design but placed in the border.
-Rob
> Regards,
> Dave
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> -Rob
>>
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Re: Two Insights from the logo survey comments
Posted by Dave Fisher <wa...@apache.org>.
Rob,
Thanks for your efforts here.
On May 11, 2013, at 8:41 AM, Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org> wrote:
> I've been going through the thousands of comments received in the
> survey, trying to make sense of them. Here are two things I thought
> were interesting and worth discussing:
>
>
> 1) The number "4" appears to be unlucky in China, Japan and Korea.
> Sometimes product their will even skip over version 4 of a product and
> go directly to 5. (In other cultures 13 is unlucky, and hotels will
> not have a 13th floor).
>
> So the feedback was that we might not want to have a "4" be too
> prominent or central in the logo.
I think that this is a strong point. Why tie the logotype to the version?
>
> 2) Some users suggested that a prominent "TM" trademark symbol was
> seen as conflicting with the openness theme.
A TM is important for protecting the brand and it is something that the ASF has requested from all projects. It does not have to be prominent, but ought to be present.
Regards,
Dave
>
>
> Regards,
>
> -Rob
>
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