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Posted to users@cloudstack.apache.org by Sonny Chhen <So...@citrix.com> on 2012/08/22 18:44:24 UTC
UI: Navigation concept
Hello All,
In an effort to gain more screen real estate, a few front-end developers and I have been playing around with changing the navigation and are researching a few things like max and min width in the css. Below is a link to a sample of a "3d cubed" based navigation. Would love to hear thoughts regarding this idea. We are still working on some of the more requested items in the feedback(too many clicks, easier accessibility, etc...) but are taking things step by step.
http://www.schhen.com/citrix/demos/demo5/
Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns.
Thanks You and Best Regards,
Sonny H. Chhen
Manager of User Interface & User Experience | Citrix Systems - CloudPlatform
4988 Great America Parkway, Santa Clara, CA 95054, USA
Re: Navigation concept
Posted by Marcus Sorensen <sh...@gmail.com>.
I think the 3d effect could be useful as it does allow for a hidden
menu and still shows the entire page. It does buy real-estate in spite
of being fancy. I think it could probably be smoothed out a bit though
so it's not so jarring.
One thing about the slide out is that it moves a chunk of the main
content out of the window (for me). The alternative would be to slide
out over it, also less than ideal but I guess you probably don't
necessarily need to have access to that content while navigating.
Would it be possible to shrink the main content rather than rotate it
or slide it out of view? Sort of like an "expose" view on the mac
(four finger swipe down) that brings up the dock and your current
window. That way all of the content is still visible, you gain the
real-estate you were looking for, and it's a shiny effect without
seeming frivolous.
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 11:59 AM, Sonny Chhen <So...@citrix.com> wrote:
> Thanks Chip. Will be proposing more ideas for the dashboard, notification, and general ui fixes in the coming weeks.
>
> Thanks You and Best Regards,
>
> Sonny H. Chhen
> Manager of User Interface & User Experience | Citrix Systems - CloudPlatform
> 4988 Great America Parkway, Santa Clara, CA 95054, USA
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chip Childers [mailto:chip.childers@sungard.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 10:54 AM
> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Cc: cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Navigation concept
>
> Please do keep proposing ideas though Sonny! Obviously design is always iterative, and feedback's how to get to the best result...
> (I'm sure I'm preaching to the choir here, but I wanted to say thanks
> anyway)
>
> On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 1:50 PM, Sonny Chhen <So...@citrix.com> wrote:
>> Thanks for the feedback Chip. It seems that the sliding navigation may be the better route in this case. We may have the same slide down effect in another iteration of the notification as most people seem to miss the counter.
>>
>> Thanks You and Best Regards,
>>
>> Sonny H. Chhen
>> Manager of User Interface & User Experience | Citrix Systems -
>> CloudPlatform
>> 4988 Great America Parkway, Santa Clara, CA 95054, USA
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Chip Childers [mailto:chip.childers@sungard.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 10:46 AM
>> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
>> Cc: cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: Navigation concept
>>
>> Sonny,
>>
>> The 3-D effect is actually kind of jarring. Using that daily would probably cause some frustration.
>>
>> Personally, I'm a fan of minimal animation... and when it does exist, for it to be fast and visually meaningful.
>>
>> -chip
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 1:34 PM, Will Chan <wi...@citrix.com> wrote:
>>> I personally would like it if the navigation would just slide out. The 3d stuff although is "cool", doesn't seem to add anything useful in terms of UX. In fact, I would argue it makes it slightly less useful because the text become blurry.
>>>
>>> Also, I assume this required HTML5 and building something like this prevents users of older browsers the ability to use this unless you plan on having supporting multiple navigation models.
>>>
>>> Will
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Sonny Chhen [mailto:Sonny.Chhen@citrix.com]
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 9:44 AM
>>>> To: cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org; cloudstack-
>>>> dev@incubator.apache.org
>>>> Subject: UI: Navigation concept
>>>>
>>>> Hello All,
>>>>
>>>> In an effort to gain more screen real estate, a few front-end
>>>> developers and I have been playing around with changing the
>>>> navigation and are researching a few things like max and min width
>>>> in the css. Below is a link to a sample of a "3d cubed" based
>>>> navigation. Would love to hear thoughts regarding this idea. We are
>>>> still working on some of the more requested items in the
>>>> feedback(too many clicks, easier accessibility, etc...) but are taking things step by step.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.schhen.com/citrix/demos/demo5/
>>>>
>>>> Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks You and Best Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Sonny H. Chhen
>>>> Manager of User Interface & User Experience | Citrix Systems -
>>>> CloudPlatform
>>>> 4988 Great America Parkway, Santa Clara, CA 95054, USA
>>>
>>>
>>
RE: Navigation concept
Posted by Rohit Yadav <ro...@citrix.com>.
Hi Sonny,
Nice concept, I'm looking forward to some awesome UI changes.
I've a suggestion for you, to implement url routers that tracks url history, like we see on twitter/facebook.
For example, checkout backbonejs's url router:
http://backbonetutorials.com/what-is-a-router/
http://backbonejs.org/#Router
Regards,
Rohit
________________________________________
From: Sonny Chhen [Sonny.Chhen@citrix.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 11:29 PM
To: cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org; cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: RE: Navigation concept
Thanks Chip. Will be proposing more ideas for the dashboard, notification, and general ui fixes in the coming weeks.
Thanks You and Best Regards,
Sonny H. Chhen
Manager of User Interface & User Experience | Citrix Systems - CloudPlatform
4988 Great America Parkway, Santa Clara, CA 95054, USA
-----Original Message-----
From: Chip Childers [mailto:chip.childers@sungard.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 10:54 AM
To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
Cc: cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Navigation concept
Please do keep proposing ideas though Sonny! Obviously design is always iterative, and feedback's how to get to the best result...
(I'm sure I'm preaching to the choir here, but I wanted to say thanks
anyway)
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 1:50 PM, Sonny Chhen <So...@citrix.com> wrote:
> Thanks for the feedback Chip. It seems that the sliding navigation may be the better route in this case. We may have the same slide down effect in another iteration of the notification as most people seem to miss the counter.
>
> Thanks You and Best Regards,
>
> Sonny H. Chhen
> Manager of User Interface & User Experience | Citrix Systems -
> CloudPlatform
> 4988 Great America Parkway, Santa Clara, CA 95054, USA
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chip Childers [mailto:chip.childers@sungard.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 10:46 AM
> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Cc: cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Navigation concept
>
> Sonny,
>
> The 3-D effect is actually kind of jarring. Using that daily would probably cause some frustration.
>
> Personally, I'm a fan of minimal animation... and when it does exist, for it to be fast and visually meaningful.
>
> -chip
>
> On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 1:34 PM, Will Chan <wi...@citrix.com> wrote:
>> I personally would like it if the navigation would just slide out. The 3d stuff although is "cool", doesn't seem to add anything useful in terms of UX. In fact, I would argue it makes it slightly less useful because the text become blurry.
>>
>> Also, I assume this required HTML5 and building something like this prevents users of older browsers the ability to use this unless you plan on having supporting multiple navigation models.
>>
>> Will
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Sonny Chhen [mailto:Sonny.Chhen@citrix.com]
>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 9:44 AM
>>> To: cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org; cloudstack-
>>> dev@incubator.apache.org
>>> Subject: UI: Navigation concept
>>>
>>> Hello All,
>>>
>>> In an effort to gain more screen real estate, a few front-end
>>> developers and I have been playing around with changing the
>>> navigation and are researching a few things like max and min width
>>> in the css. Below is a link to a sample of a "3d cubed" based
>>> navigation. Would love to hear thoughts regarding this idea. We are
>>> still working on some of the more requested items in the
>>> feedback(too many clicks, easier accessibility, etc...) but are taking things step by step.
>>>
>>> http://www.schhen.com/citrix/demos/demo5/
>>>
>>> Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns.
>>>
>>> Thanks You and Best Regards,
>>>
>>> Sonny H. Chhen
>>> Manager of User Interface & User Experience | Citrix Systems -
>>> CloudPlatform
>>> 4988 Great America Parkway, Santa Clara, CA 95054, USA
>>
>>
>
Re: Navigation concept
Posted by Marcus Sorensen <sh...@gmail.com>.
I think the 3d effect could be useful as it does allow for a hidden
menu and still shows the entire page. It does buy real-estate in spite
of being fancy. I think it could probably be smoothed out a bit though
so it's not so jarring.
One thing about the slide out is that it moves a chunk of the main
content out of the window (for me). The alternative would be to slide
out over it, also less than ideal but I guess you probably don't
necessarily need to have access to that content while navigating.
Would it be possible to shrink the main content rather than rotate it
or slide it out of view? Sort of like an "expose" view on the mac
(four finger swipe down) that brings up the dock and your current
window. That way all of the content is still visible, you gain the
real-estate you were looking for, and it's a shiny effect without
seeming frivolous.
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 11:59 AM, Sonny Chhen <So...@citrix.com> wrote:
> Thanks Chip. Will be proposing more ideas for the dashboard, notification, and general ui fixes in the coming weeks.
>
> Thanks You and Best Regards,
>
> Sonny H. Chhen
> Manager of User Interface & User Experience | Citrix Systems - CloudPlatform
> 4988 Great America Parkway, Santa Clara, CA 95054, USA
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chip Childers [mailto:chip.childers@sungard.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 10:54 AM
> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Cc: cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Navigation concept
>
> Please do keep proposing ideas though Sonny! Obviously design is always iterative, and feedback's how to get to the best result...
> (I'm sure I'm preaching to the choir here, but I wanted to say thanks
> anyway)
>
> On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 1:50 PM, Sonny Chhen <So...@citrix.com> wrote:
>> Thanks for the feedback Chip. It seems that the sliding navigation may be the better route in this case. We may have the same slide down effect in another iteration of the notification as most people seem to miss the counter.
>>
>> Thanks You and Best Regards,
>>
>> Sonny H. Chhen
>> Manager of User Interface & User Experience | Citrix Systems -
>> CloudPlatform
>> 4988 Great America Parkway, Santa Clara, CA 95054, USA
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Chip Childers [mailto:chip.childers@sungard.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 10:46 AM
>> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
>> Cc: cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: Navigation concept
>>
>> Sonny,
>>
>> The 3-D effect is actually kind of jarring. Using that daily would probably cause some frustration.
>>
>> Personally, I'm a fan of minimal animation... and when it does exist, for it to be fast and visually meaningful.
>>
>> -chip
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 1:34 PM, Will Chan <wi...@citrix.com> wrote:
>>> I personally would like it if the navigation would just slide out. The 3d stuff although is "cool", doesn't seem to add anything useful in terms of UX. In fact, I would argue it makes it slightly less useful because the text become blurry.
>>>
>>> Also, I assume this required HTML5 and building something like this prevents users of older browsers the ability to use this unless you plan on having supporting multiple navigation models.
>>>
>>> Will
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Sonny Chhen [mailto:Sonny.Chhen@citrix.com]
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 9:44 AM
>>>> To: cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org; cloudstack-
>>>> dev@incubator.apache.org
>>>> Subject: UI: Navigation concept
>>>>
>>>> Hello All,
>>>>
>>>> In an effort to gain more screen real estate, a few front-end
>>>> developers and I have been playing around with changing the
>>>> navigation and are researching a few things like max and min width
>>>> in the css. Below is a link to a sample of a "3d cubed" based
>>>> navigation. Would love to hear thoughts regarding this idea. We are
>>>> still working on some of the more requested items in the
>>>> feedback(too many clicks, easier accessibility, etc...) but are taking things step by step.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.schhen.com/citrix/demos/demo5/
>>>>
>>>> Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks You and Best Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Sonny H. Chhen
>>>> Manager of User Interface & User Experience | Citrix Systems -
>>>> CloudPlatform
>>>> 4988 Great America Parkway, Santa Clara, CA 95054, USA
>>>
>>>
>>
RE: Navigation concept
Posted by Rohit Yadav <ro...@citrix.com>.
Hi Sonny,
Nice concept, I'm looking forward to some awesome UI changes.
I've a suggestion for you, to implement url routers that tracks url history, like we see on twitter/facebook.
For example, checkout backbonejs's url router:
http://backbonetutorials.com/what-is-a-router/
http://backbonejs.org/#Router
Regards,
Rohit
________________________________________
From: Sonny Chhen [Sonny.Chhen@citrix.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 11:29 PM
To: cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org; cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: RE: Navigation concept
Thanks Chip. Will be proposing more ideas for the dashboard, notification, and general ui fixes in the coming weeks.
Thanks You and Best Regards,
Sonny H. Chhen
Manager of User Interface & User Experience | Citrix Systems - CloudPlatform
4988 Great America Parkway, Santa Clara, CA 95054, USA
-----Original Message-----
From: Chip Childers [mailto:chip.childers@sungard.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 10:54 AM
To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
Cc: cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Navigation concept
Please do keep proposing ideas though Sonny! Obviously design is always iterative, and feedback's how to get to the best result...
(I'm sure I'm preaching to the choir here, but I wanted to say thanks
anyway)
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 1:50 PM, Sonny Chhen <So...@citrix.com> wrote:
> Thanks for the feedback Chip. It seems that the sliding navigation may be the better route in this case. We may have the same slide down effect in another iteration of the notification as most people seem to miss the counter.
>
> Thanks You and Best Regards,
>
> Sonny H. Chhen
> Manager of User Interface & User Experience | Citrix Systems -
> CloudPlatform
> 4988 Great America Parkway, Santa Clara, CA 95054, USA
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chip Childers [mailto:chip.childers@sungard.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 10:46 AM
> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Cc: cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Navigation concept
>
> Sonny,
>
> The 3-D effect is actually kind of jarring. Using that daily would probably cause some frustration.
>
> Personally, I'm a fan of minimal animation... and when it does exist, for it to be fast and visually meaningful.
>
> -chip
>
> On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 1:34 PM, Will Chan <wi...@citrix.com> wrote:
>> I personally would like it if the navigation would just slide out. The 3d stuff although is "cool", doesn't seem to add anything useful in terms of UX. In fact, I would argue it makes it slightly less useful because the text become blurry.
>>
>> Also, I assume this required HTML5 and building something like this prevents users of older browsers the ability to use this unless you plan on having supporting multiple navigation models.
>>
>> Will
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Sonny Chhen [mailto:Sonny.Chhen@citrix.com]
>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 9:44 AM
>>> To: cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org; cloudstack-
>>> dev@incubator.apache.org
>>> Subject: UI: Navigation concept
>>>
>>> Hello All,
>>>
>>> In an effort to gain more screen real estate, a few front-end
>>> developers and I have been playing around with changing the
>>> navigation and are researching a few things like max and min width
>>> in the css. Below is a link to a sample of a "3d cubed" based
>>> navigation. Would love to hear thoughts regarding this idea. We are
>>> still working on some of the more requested items in the
>>> feedback(too many clicks, easier accessibility, etc...) but are taking things step by step.
>>>
>>> http://www.schhen.com/citrix/demos/demo5/
>>>
>>> Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns.
>>>
>>> Thanks You and Best Regards,
>>>
>>> Sonny H. Chhen
>>> Manager of User Interface & User Experience | Citrix Systems -
>>> CloudPlatform
>>> 4988 Great America Parkway, Santa Clara, CA 95054, USA
>>
>>
>
RE: Navigation concept
Posted by Sonny Chhen <So...@citrix.com>.
Thanks Chip. Will be proposing more ideas for the dashboard, notification, and general ui fixes in the coming weeks.
Thanks You and Best Regards,
Sonny H. Chhen
Manager of User Interface & User Experience | Citrix Systems - CloudPlatform
4988 Great America Parkway, Santa Clara, CA 95054, USA
-----Original Message-----
From: Chip Childers [mailto:chip.childers@sungard.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 10:54 AM
To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
Cc: cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Navigation concept
Please do keep proposing ideas though Sonny! Obviously design is always iterative, and feedback's how to get to the best result...
(I'm sure I'm preaching to the choir here, but I wanted to say thanks
anyway)
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 1:50 PM, Sonny Chhen <So...@citrix.com> wrote:
> Thanks for the feedback Chip. It seems that the sliding navigation may be the better route in this case. We may have the same slide down effect in another iteration of the notification as most people seem to miss the counter.
>
> Thanks You and Best Regards,
>
> Sonny H. Chhen
> Manager of User Interface & User Experience | Citrix Systems -
> CloudPlatform
> 4988 Great America Parkway, Santa Clara, CA 95054, USA
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chip Childers [mailto:chip.childers@sungard.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 10:46 AM
> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Cc: cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Navigation concept
>
> Sonny,
>
> The 3-D effect is actually kind of jarring. Using that daily would probably cause some frustration.
>
> Personally, I'm a fan of minimal animation... and when it does exist, for it to be fast and visually meaningful.
>
> -chip
>
> On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 1:34 PM, Will Chan <wi...@citrix.com> wrote:
>> I personally would like it if the navigation would just slide out. The 3d stuff although is "cool", doesn't seem to add anything useful in terms of UX. In fact, I would argue it makes it slightly less useful because the text become blurry.
>>
>> Also, I assume this required HTML5 and building something like this prevents users of older browsers the ability to use this unless you plan on having supporting multiple navigation models.
>>
>> Will
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Sonny Chhen [mailto:Sonny.Chhen@citrix.com]
>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 9:44 AM
>>> To: cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org; cloudstack-
>>> dev@incubator.apache.org
>>> Subject: UI: Navigation concept
>>>
>>> Hello All,
>>>
>>> In an effort to gain more screen real estate, a few front-end
>>> developers and I have been playing around with changing the
>>> navigation and are researching a few things like max and min width
>>> in the css. Below is a link to a sample of a "3d cubed" based
>>> navigation. Would love to hear thoughts regarding this idea. We are
>>> still working on some of the more requested items in the
>>> feedback(too many clicks, easier accessibility, etc...) but are taking things step by step.
>>>
>>> http://www.schhen.com/citrix/demos/demo5/
>>>
>>> Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns.
>>>
>>> Thanks You and Best Regards,
>>>
>>> Sonny H. Chhen
>>> Manager of User Interface & User Experience | Citrix Systems -
>>> CloudPlatform
>>> 4988 Great America Parkway, Santa Clara, CA 95054, USA
>>
>>
>
RE: Navigation concept
Posted by Sonny Chhen <So...@citrix.com>.
Thanks Chip. Will be proposing more ideas for the dashboard, notification, and general ui fixes in the coming weeks.
Thanks You and Best Regards,
Sonny H. Chhen
Manager of User Interface & User Experience | Citrix Systems - CloudPlatform
4988 Great America Parkway, Santa Clara, CA 95054, USA
-----Original Message-----
From: Chip Childers [mailto:chip.childers@sungard.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 10:54 AM
To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
Cc: cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Navigation concept
Please do keep proposing ideas though Sonny! Obviously design is always iterative, and feedback's how to get to the best result...
(I'm sure I'm preaching to the choir here, but I wanted to say thanks
anyway)
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 1:50 PM, Sonny Chhen <So...@citrix.com> wrote:
> Thanks for the feedback Chip. It seems that the sliding navigation may be the better route in this case. We may have the same slide down effect in another iteration of the notification as most people seem to miss the counter.
>
> Thanks You and Best Regards,
>
> Sonny H. Chhen
> Manager of User Interface & User Experience | Citrix Systems -
> CloudPlatform
> 4988 Great America Parkway, Santa Clara, CA 95054, USA
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chip Childers [mailto:chip.childers@sungard.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 10:46 AM
> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Cc: cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Navigation concept
>
> Sonny,
>
> The 3-D effect is actually kind of jarring. Using that daily would probably cause some frustration.
>
> Personally, I'm a fan of minimal animation... and when it does exist, for it to be fast and visually meaningful.
>
> -chip
>
> On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 1:34 PM, Will Chan <wi...@citrix.com> wrote:
>> I personally would like it if the navigation would just slide out. The 3d stuff although is "cool", doesn't seem to add anything useful in terms of UX. In fact, I would argue it makes it slightly less useful because the text become blurry.
>>
>> Also, I assume this required HTML5 and building something like this prevents users of older browsers the ability to use this unless you plan on having supporting multiple navigation models.
>>
>> Will
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Sonny Chhen [mailto:Sonny.Chhen@citrix.com]
>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 9:44 AM
>>> To: cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org; cloudstack-
>>> dev@incubator.apache.org
>>> Subject: UI: Navigation concept
>>>
>>> Hello All,
>>>
>>> In an effort to gain more screen real estate, a few front-end
>>> developers and I have been playing around with changing the
>>> navigation and are researching a few things like max and min width
>>> in the css. Below is a link to a sample of a "3d cubed" based
>>> navigation. Would love to hear thoughts regarding this idea. We are
>>> still working on some of the more requested items in the
>>> feedback(too many clicks, easier accessibility, etc...) but are taking things step by step.
>>>
>>> http://www.schhen.com/citrix/demos/demo5/
>>>
>>> Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns.
>>>
>>> Thanks You and Best Regards,
>>>
>>> Sonny H. Chhen
>>> Manager of User Interface & User Experience | Citrix Systems -
>>> CloudPlatform
>>> 4988 Great America Parkway, Santa Clara, CA 95054, USA
>>
>>
>
Re: Navigation concept
Posted by Chip Childers <ch...@sungard.com>.
Please do keep proposing ideas though Sonny! Obviously design is
always iterative, and feedback's how to get to the best result...
(I'm sure I'm preaching to the choir here, but I wanted to say thanks
anyway)
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 1:50 PM, Sonny Chhen <So...@citrix.com> wrote:
> Thanks for the feedback Chip. It seems that the sliding navigation may be the better route in this case. We may have the same slide down effect in another iteration of the notification as most people seem to miss the counter.
>
> Thanks You and Best Regards,
>
> Sonny H. Chhen
> Manager of User Interface & User Experience | Citrix Systems - CloudPlatform
> 4988 Great America Parkway, Santa Clara, CA 95054, USA
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chip Childers [mailto:chip.childers@sungard.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 10:46 AM
> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Cc: cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Navigation concept
>
> Sonny,
>
> The 3-D effect is actually kind of jarring. Using that daily would probably cause some frustration.
>
> Personally, I'm a fan of minimal animation... and when it does exist, for it to be fast and visually meaningful.
>
> -chip
>
> On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 1:34 PM, Will Chan <wi...@citrix.com> wrote:
>> I personally would like it if the navigation would just slide out. The 3d stuff although is "cool", doesn't seem to add anything useful in terms of UX. In fact, I would argue it makes it slightly less useful because the text become blurry.
>>
>> Also, I assume this required HTML5 and building something like this prevents users of older browsers the ability to use this unless you plan on having supporting multiple navigation models.
>>
>> Will
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Sonny Chhen [mailto:Sonny.Chhen@citrix.com]
>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 9:44 AM
>>> To: cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org; cloudstack-
>>> dev@incubator.apache.org
>>> Subject: UI: Navigation concept
>>>
>>> Hello All,
>>>
>>> In an effort to gain more screen real estate, a few front-end
>>> developers and I have been playing around with changing the
>>> navigation and are researching a few things like max and min width in
>>> the css. Below is a link to a sample of a "3d cubed" based
>>> navigation. Would love to hear thoughts regarding this idea. We are
>>> still working on some of the more requested items in the feedback(too
>>> many clicks, easier accessibility, etc...) but are taking things step by step.
>>>
>>> http://www.schhen.com/citrix/demos/demo5/
>>>
>>> Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns.
>>>
>>> Thanks You and Best Regards,
>>>
>>> Sonny H. Chhen
>>> Manager of User Interface & User Experience | Citrix Systems -
>>> CloudPlatform
>>> 4988 Great America Parkway, Santa Clara, CA 95054, USA
>>
>>
>
Re: Navigation concept
Posted by Chip Childers <ch...@sungard.com>.
Please do keep proposing ideas though Sonny! Obviously design is
always iterative, and feedback's how to get to the best result...
(I'm sure I'm preaching to the choir here, but I wanted to say thanks
anyway)
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 1:50 PM, Sonny Chhen <So...@citrix.com> wrote:
> Thanks for the feedback Chip. It seems that the sliding navigation may be the better route in this case. We may have the same slide down effect in another iteration of the notification as most people seem to miss the counter.
>
> Thanks You and Best Regards,
>
> Sonny H. Chhen
> Manager of User Interface & User Experience | Citrix Systems - CloudPlatform
> 4988 Great America Parkway, Santa Clara, CA 95054, USA
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chip Childers [mailto:chip.childers@sungard.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 10:46 AM
> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Cc: cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Navigation concept
>
> Sonny,
>
> The 3-D effect is actually kind of jarring. Using that daily would probably cause some frustration.
>
> Personally, I'm a fan of minimal animation... and when it does exist, for it to be fast and visually meaningful.
>
> -chip
>
> On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 1:34 PM, Will Chan <wi...@citrix.com> wrote:
>> I personally would like it if the navigation would just slide out. The 3d stuff although is "cool", doesn't seem to add anything useful in terms of UX. In fact, I would argue it makes it slightly less useful because the text become blurry.
>>
>> Also, I assume this required HTML5 and building something like this prevents users of older browsers the ability to use this unless you plan on having supporting multiple navigation models.
>>
>> Will
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Sonny Chhen [mailto:Sonny.Chhen@citrix.com]
>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 9:44 AM
>>> To: cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org; cloudstack-
>>> dev@incubator.apache.org
>>> Subject: UI: Navigation concept
>>>
>>> Hello All,
>>>
>>> In an effort to gain more screen real estate, a few front-end
>>> developers and I have been playing around with changing the
>>> navigation and are researching a few things like max and min width in
>>> the css. Below is a link to a sample of a "3d cubed" based
>>> navigation. Would love to hear thoughts regarding this idea. We are
>>> still working on some of the more requested items in the feedback(too
>>> many clicks, easier accessibility, etc...) but are taking things step by step.
>>>
>>> http://www.schhen.com/citrix/demos/demo5/
>>>
>>> Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns.
>>>
>>> Thanks You and Best Regards,
>>>
>>> Sonny H. Chhen
>>> Manager of User Interface & User Experience | Citrix Systems -
>>> CloudPlatform
>>> 4988 Great America Parkway, Santa Clara, CA 95054, USA
>>
>>
>
RE: Navigation concept
Posted by Sonny Chhen <So...@citrix.com>.
Thanks for the feedback Chip. It seems that the sliding navigation may be the better route in this case. We may have the same slide down effect in another iteration of the notification as most people seem to miss the counter.
Thanks You and Best Regards,
Sonny H. Chhen
Manager of User Interface & User Experience | Citrix Systems - CloudPlatform
4988 Great America Parkway, Santa Clara, CA 95054, USA
-----Original Message-----
From: Chip Childers [mailto:chip.childers@sungard.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 10:46 AM
To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
Cc: cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Navigation concept
Sonny,
The 3-D effect is actually kind of jarring. Using that daily would probably cause some frustration.
Personally, I'm a fan of minimal animation... and when it does exist, for it to be fast and visually meaningful.
-chip
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 1:34 PM, Will Chan <wi...@citrix.com> wrote:
> I personally would like it if the navigation would just slide out. The 3d stuff although is "cool", doesn't seem to add anything useful in terms of UX. In fact, I would argue it makes it slightly less useful because the text become blurry.
>
> Also, I assume this required HTML5 and building something like this prevents users of older browsers the ability to use this unless you plan on having supporting multiple navigation models.
>
> Will
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Sonny Chhen [mailto:Sonny.Chhen@citrix.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 9:44 AM
>> To: cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org; cloudstack-
>> dev@incubator.apache.org
>> Subject: UI: Navigation concept
>>
>> Hello All,
>>
>> In an effort to gain more screen real estate, a few front-end
>> developers and I have been playing around with changing the
>> navigation and are researching a few things like max and min width in
>> the css. Below is a link to a sample of a "3d cubed" based
>> navigation. Would love to hear thoughts regarding this idea. We are
>> still working on some of the more requested items in the feedback(too
>> many clicks, easier accessibility, etc...) but are taking things step by step.
>>
>> http://www.schhen.com/citrix/demos/demo5/
>>
>> Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns.
>>
>> Thanks You and Best Regards,
>>
>> Sonny H. Chhen
>> Manager of User Interface & User Experience | Citrix Systems -
>> CloudPlatform
>> 4988 Great America Parkway, Santa Clara, CA 95054, USA
>
>
Re: Navigation concept
Posted by "Kelceydamage@bbits" <ke...@bbits.ca>.
I think we need a more data-driven organized WUI. The current on requires too many clicks to get anywhere, and is a little fisher-pricey(big buttons). Nice 2D graphics would be great but I agree for minimal animation.
Also Pie-charts would be bad-ass!
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 22, 2012, at 1:18 PM, Wido den Hollander <wi...@widodh.nl> wrote:
>
>
> On 08/22/2012 07:46 PM, Chip Childers wrote:
>> Sonny,
>>
>> The 3-D effect is actually kind of jarring. Using that daily would
>> probably cause some frustration.
>>
>> Personally, I'm a fan of minimal animation... and when it does exist,
>> for it to be fast and visually meaningful.
>>
>
> I agree. Ever tried to use the current 3.X skin on a tablet like a Galaxy Tab 10.1? It's slow.
>
> I'm personally not a big fan of all the fancy UI stuff, it makes stuff much harder to navigate through.
>
> Tablets are becoming more and more used, admins and users will use those to do basic stuff like stopping and starting instances or checking the health of their cloud.
>
> Yes, we could make apps, but this basic stuff should also work through a regular webbrowser.
>
> I know this is a preview, but on my 8-core 3.6Ghz desktop with Firefox 12 it works sluggish.
>
> I'd vote for keeping all the fancy stuff away or making it optional.
>
> Wido
>
>> -chip
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 1:34 PM, Will Chan <wi...@citrix.com> wrote:
>>> I personally would like it if the navigation would just slide out. The 3d stuff although is "cool", doesn't seem to add anything useful in terms of UX. In fact, I would argue it makes it slightly less useful because the text become blurry.
>>>
>>> Also, I assume this required HTML5 and building something like this prevents users of older browsers the ability to use this unless you plan on having supporting multiple navigation models.
>>>
>>> Will
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Sonny Chhen [mailto:Sonny.Chhen@citrix.com]
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 9:44 AM
>>>> To: cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org; cloudstack-
>>>> dev@incubator.apache.org
>>>> Subject: UI: Navigation concept
>>>>
>>>> Hello All,
>>>>
>>>> In an effort to gain more screen real estate, a few front-end developers and I
>>>> have been playing around with changing the navigation and are researching
>>>> a few things like max and min width in the css. Below is a link to a sample of
>>>> a "3d cubed" based navigation. Would love to hear thoughts regarding this
>>>> idea. We are still working on some of the more requested items in the
>>>> feedback(too many clicks, easier accessibility, etc...) but are taking things
>>>> step by step.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.schhen.com/citrix/demos/demo5/
>>>>
>>>> Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks You and Best Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Sonny H. Chhen
>>>> Manager of User Interface & User Experience | Citrix Systems -
>>>> CloudPlatform
>>>> 4988 Great America Parkway, Santa Clara, CA 95054, USA
>>>
>>>
Re:Re: what kinds of ethernet attached to VM,mii-tool can not
work
Posted by coudstacks <cl...@163.com>.
thanks.
i have a try inside vmware'VMs, mii-tool and ethtool can give more infomations about ethernet.
i think it is xenserver's defect.meanwhile you can not specify a certain kind of ethernet when create VMs.
At 2012-08-23 15:47:14,"Wido den Hollander" <wi...@widodh.nl> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>On 08/23/2012 09:29 AM, coudstacks wrote:
>> always error when launch mii-tool command
>>
>> SIOCGMIIPHY on 'eth0' failed: Operation not supported.
>>
>> does it matter?
>>
>
>No, you are working with a virtual network interface inside the Virtual
>Machine, that doesn't support everything a physical NIC does.
>
>You could try ethtool:
>
>$ ethtool eth0
>
>Wido
>
Re: what kinds of ethernet attached to VM,mii-tool can not work
Posted by Wido den Hollander <wi...@widodh.nl>.
Hi,
On 08/23/2012 09:29 AM, coudstacks wrote:
> always error when launch mii-tool command
>
> SIOCGMIIPHY on 'eth0' failed: Operation not supported.
>
> does it matter?
>
No, you are working with a virtual network interface inside the Virtual
Machine, that doesn't support everything a physical NIC does.
You could try ethtool:
$ ethtool eth0
Wido
what kinds of ethernet attached to VM,mii-tool can not work
Posted by coudstacks <cl...@163.com>.
always error when launch mii-tool command
SIOCGMIIPHY on 'eth0' failed: Operation not supported.
does it matter?
Re: Navigation concept
Posted by Sonny Chhen <So...@citrix.com>.
+1
Sent from my iPhone
Thank You and Best Regards,
Sonny H. Chhen
www.SChhen.com
On Aug 22, 2012, at 7:14 PM, "Caleb Call" <ca...@me.com> wrote:
> I was going to say, whatever is done with the UI should be ensured it also works on tablets (HTML5 and CSS3 would be fine IMO). You can only do so much to support older browsers…and IE is one that's majorly lacking. Even the current UI has issues with IE. With that said, I use the current UI with my iPad daily and never have any issues with slowness, works the same as it does in any modern browser.
>
>
> On Aug 22, 2012, at 2:18 PM, Wido den Hollander <wi...@widodh.nl> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On 08/22/2012 07:46 PM, Chip Childers wrote:
>>> Sonny,
>>>
>>> The 3-D effect is actually kind of jarring. Using that daily would
>>> probably cause some frustration.
>>>
>>> Personally, I'm a fan of minimal animation... and when it does exist,
>>> for it to be fast and visually meaningful.
>>>
>>
>> I agree. Ever tried to use the current 3.X skin on a tablet like a Galaxy Tab 10.1? It's slow.
>>
>> I'm personally not a big fan of all the fancy UI stuff, it makes stuff much harder to navigate through.
>>
>> Tablets are becoming more and more used, admins and users will use those to do basic stuff like stopping and starting instances or checking the health of their cloud.
>>
>> Yes, we could make apps, but this basic stuff should also work through a regular webbrowser.
>>
>> I know this is a preview, but on my 8-core 3.6Ghz desktop with Firefox 12 it works sluggish.
>>
>> I'd vote for keeping all the fancy stuff away or making it optional.
>>
>> Wido
>>
>>> -chip
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 1:34 PM, Will Chan <wi...@citrix.com> wrote:
>>>> I personally would like it if the navigation would just slide out. The 3d stuff although is "cool", doesn't seem to add anything useful in terms of UX. In fact, I would argue it makes it slightly less useful because the text become blurry.
>>>>
>>>> Also, I assume this required HTML5 and building something like this prevents users of older browsers the ability to use this unless you plan on having supporting multiple navigation models.
>>>>
>>>> Will
>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Sonny Chhen [mailto:Sonny.Chhen@citrix.com]
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 9:44 AM
>>>>> To: cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org; cloudstack-
>>>>> dev@incubator.apache.org
>>>>> Subject: UI: Navigation concept
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello All,
>>>>>
>>>>> In an effort to gain more screen real estate, a few front-end developers and I
>>>>> have been playing around with changing the navigation and are researching
>>>>> a few things like max and min width in the css. Below is a link to a sample of
>>>>> a "3d cubed" based navigation. Would love to hear thoughts regarding this
>>>>> idea. We are still working on some of the more requested items in the
>>>>> feedback(too many clicks, easier accessibility, etc...) but are taking things
>>>>> step by step.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.schhen.com/citrix/demos/demo5/
>>>>>
>>>>> Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks You and Best Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Sonny H. Chhen
>>>>> Manager of User Interface & User Experience | Citrix Systems -
>>>>> CloudPlatform
>>>>> 4988 Great America Parkway, Santa Clara, CA 95054, USA
>>>>
>>>>
>
Re: Navigation concept
Posted by Caleb Call <ca...@me.com>.
I was going to say, whatever is done with the UI should be ensured it also works on tablets (HTML5 and CSS3 would be fine IMO). You can only do so much to support older browsers…and IE is one that's majorly lacking. Even the current UI has issues with IE. With that said, I use the current UI with my iPad daily and never have any issues with slowness, works the same as it does in any modern browser.
On Aug 22, 2012, at 2:18 PM, Wido den Hollander <wi...@widodh.nl> wrote:
>
>
> On 08/22/2012 07:46 PM, Chip Childers wrote:
>> Sonny,
>>
>> The 3-D effect is actually kind of jarring. Using that daily would
>> probably cause some frustration.
>>
>> Personally, I'm a fan of minimal animation... and when it does exist,
>> for it to be fast and visually meaningful.
>>
>
> I agree. Ever tried to use the current 3.X skin on a tablet like a Galaxy Tab 10.1? It's slow.
>
> I'm personally not a big fan of all the fancy UI stuff, it makes stuff much harder to navigate through.
>
> Tablets are becoming more and more used, admins and users will use those to do basic stuff like stopping and starting instances or checking the health of their cloud.
>
> Yes, we could make apps, but this basic stuff should also work through a regular webbrowser.
>
> I know this is a preview, but on my 8-core 3.6Ghz desktop with Firefox 12 it works sluggish.
>
> I'd vote for keeping all the fancy stuff away or making it optional.
>
> Wido
>
>> -chip
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 1:34 PM, Will Chan <wi...@citrix.com> wrote:
>>> I personally would like it if the navigation would just slide out. The 3d stuff although is "cool", doesn't seem to add anything useful in terms of UX. In fact, I would argue it makes it slightly less useful because the text become blurry.
>>>
>>> Also, I assume this required HTML5 and building something like this prevents users of older browsers the ability to use this unless you plan on having supporting multiple navigation models.
>>>
>>> Will
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Sonny Chhen [mailto:Sonny.Chhen@citrix.com]
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 9:44 AM
>>>> To: cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org; cloudstack-
>>>> dev@incubator.apache.org
>>>> Subject: UI: Navigation concept
>>>>
>>>> Hello All,
>>>>
>>>> In an effort to gain more screen real estate, a few front-end developers and I
>>>> have been playing around with changing the navigation and are researching
>>>> a few things like max and min width in the css. Below is a link to a sample of
>>>> a "3d cubed" based navigation. Would love to hear thoughts regarding this
>>>> idea. We are still working on some of the more requested items in the
>>>> feedback(too many clicks, easier accessibility, etc...) but are taking things
>>>> step by step.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.schhen.com/citrix/demos/demo5/
>>>>
>>>> Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks You and Best Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Sonny H. Chhen
>>>> Manager of User Interface & User Experience | Citrix Systems -
>>>> CloudPlatform
>>>> 4988 Great America Parkway, Santa Clara, CA 95054, USA
>>>
>>>
RE: Navigation concept
Posted by Will Chan <wi...@citrix.com>.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sonny Chhen [mailto:Sonny.Chhen@citrix.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 1:39 PM
> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: RE: Navigation concept
>
> Also, we do have pie-charts on the admin dashboard :)
>
Not enough!
RE: Navigation concept
Posted by Sonny Chhen <So...@citrix.com>.
Hello all,
Thanks for the feedback. It has been helpful in deciding not just new feature ideas but possible art directions for the next iteration of CloudStack.
Wido:
I've used Cloudstack on my iPad 2 and haven't had any problems with sluggishness. We do the best we can in making sure that the ui does not compromise the speed of the application by trying to optimize our code, use of sprite sheets, and researching any new techniques that could optimize speed. We can look into other solutions as well and I do agree that a shift into a mobile/tablet based area would be ideal. In fact this 3d demo also works on an iPad.
Kelcey:
We are working on solutions for the too many clicks and the initial idea behind this design(funny enough) was for tablet devices. I like the idea of experimenting with a minimal design as well.
Also, we do have pie-charts on the admin dashboard :)
Thanks You and Best Regards,
Sonny H. Chhen
Manager of User Interface & User Experience | Citrix Systems - CloudPlatform
4988 Great America Parkway, Santa Clara, CA 95054, USA
-----Original Message-----
From: Kelceydamage@bbits [mailto:kelcey@bbits.ca]
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 1:26 PM
To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
Cc: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Navigation concept
I really dig the minimalist navigation pane in the demo, but the 3D is kinda odd.
Nice soft black.
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 22, 2012, at 1:18 PM, Wido den Hollander <wi...@widodh.nl> wrote:
>
>
> On 08/22/2012 07:46 PM, Chip Childers wrote:
>> Sonny,
>>
>> The 3-D effect is actually kind of jarring. Using that daily would
>> probably cause some frustration.
>>
>> Personally, I'm a fan of minimal animation... and when it does
>> exist, for it to be fast and visually meaningful.
>>
>
> I agree. Ever tried to use the current 3.X skin on a tablet like a Galaxy Tab 10.1? It's slow.
>
> I'm personally not a big fan of all the fancy UI stuff, it makes stuff much harder to navigate through.
>
> Tablets are becoming more and more used, admins and users will use those to do basic stuff like stopping and starting instances or checking the health of their cloud.
>
> Yes, we could make apps, but this basic stuff should also work through a regular webbrowser.
>
> I know this is a preview, but on my 8-core 3.6Ghz desktop with Firefox 12 it works sluggish.
>
> I'd vote for keeping all the fancy stuff away or making it optional.
>
> Wido
>
>> -chip
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 1:34 PM, Will Chan <wi...@citrix.com> wrote:
>>> I personally would like it if the navigation would just slide out. The 3d stuff although is "cool", doesn't seem to add anything useful in terms of UX. In fact, I would argue it makes it slightly less useful because the text become blurry.
>>>
>>> Also, I assume this required HTML5 and building something like this prevents users of older browsers the ability to use this unless you plan on having supporting multiple navigation models.
>>>
>>> Will
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Sonny Chhen [mailto:Sonny.Chhen@citrix.com]
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 9:44 AM
>>>> To: cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org; cloudstack-
>>>> dev@incubator.apache.org
>>>> Subject: UI: Navigation concept
>>>>
>>>> Hello All,
>>>>
>>>> In an effort to gain more screen real estate, a few front-end
>>>> developers and I have been playing around with changing the
>>>> navigation and are researching a few things like max and min width
>>>> in the css. Below is a link to a sample of a "3d cubed" based
>>>> navigation. Would love to hear thoughts regarding this idea. We are
>>>> still working on some of the more requested items in the
>>>> feedback(too many clicks, easier accessibility, etc...) but are taking things step by step.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.schhen.com/citrix/demos/demo5/
>>>>
>>>> Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks You and Best Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Sonny H. Chhen
>>>> Manager of User Interface & User Experience | Citrix Systems -
>>>> CloudPlatform
>>>> 4988 Great America Parkway, Santa Clara, CA 95054, USA
>>>
>>>
Re: Navigation concept
Posted by "Kelceydamage@bbits" <ke...@bbits.ca>.
I really dig the minimalist navigation pane in the demo, but the 3D is kinda odd.
Nice soft black.
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 22, 2012, at 1:18 PM, Wido den Hollander <wi...@widodh.nl> wrote:
>
>
> On 08/22/2012 07:46 PM, Chip Childers wrote:
>> Sonny,
>>
>> The 3-D effect is actually kind of jarring. Using that daily would
>> probably cause some frustration.
>>
>> Personally, I'm a fan of minimal animation... and when it does exist,
>> for it to be fast and visually meaningful.
>>
>
> I agree. Ever tried to use the current 3.X skin on a tablet like a Galaxy Tab 10.1? It's slow.
>
> I'm personally not a big fan of all the fancy UI stuff, it makes stuff much harder to navigate through.
>
> Tablets are becoming more and more used, admins and users will use those to do basic stuff like stopping and starting instances or checking the health of their cloud.
>
> Yes, we could make apps, but this basic stuff should also work through a regular webbrowser.
>
> I know this is a preview, but on my 8-core 3.6Ghz desktop with Firefox 12 it works sluggish.
>
> I'd vote for keeping all the fancy stuff away or making it optional.
>
> Wido
>
>> -chip
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 1:34 PM, Will Chan <wi...@citrix.com> wrote:
>>> I personally would like it if the navigation would just slide out. The 3d stuff although is "cool", doesn't seem to add anything useful in terms of UX. In fact, I would argue it makes it slightly less useful because the text become blurry.
>>>
>>> Also, I assume this required HTML5 and building something like this prevents users of older browsers the ability to use this unless you plan on having supporting multiple navigation models.
>>>
>>> Will
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Sonny Chhen [mailto:Sonny.Chhen@citrix.com]
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 9:44 AM
>>>> To: cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org; cloudstack-
>>>> dev@incubator.apache.org
>>>> Subject: UI: Navigation concept
>>>>
>>>> Hello All,
>>>>
>>>> In an effort to gain more screen real estate, a few front-end developers and I
>>>> have been playing around with changing the navigation and are researching
>>>> a few things like max and min width in the css. Below is a link to a sample of
>>>> a "3d cubed" based navigation. Would love to hear thoughts regarding this
>>>> idea. We are still working on some of the more requested items in the
>>>> feedback(too many clicks, easier accessibility, etc...) but are taking things
>>>> step by step.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.schhen.com/citrix/demos/demo5/
>>>>
>>>> Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks You and Best Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Sonny H. Chhen
>>>> Manager of User Interface & User Experience | Citrix Systems -
>>>> CloudPlatform
>>>> 4988 Great America Parkway, Santa Clara, CA 95054, USA
>>>
>>>
Re: Navigation concept
Posted by Wido den Hollander <wi...@widodh.nl>.
On 08/22/2012 07:46 PM, Chip Childers wrote:
> Sonny,
>
> The 3-D effect is actually kind of jarring. Using that daily would
> probably cause some frustration.
>
> Personally, I'm a fan of minimal animation... and when it does exist,
> for it to be fast and visually meaningful.
>
I agree. Ever tried to use the current 3.X skin on a tablet like a
Galaxy Tab 10.1? It's slow.
I'm personally not a big fan of all the fancy UI stuff, it makes stuff
much harder to navigate through.
Tablets are becoming more and more used, admins and users will use those
to do basic stuff like stopping and starting instances or checking the
health of their cloud.
Yes, we could make apps, but this basic stuff should also work through a
regular webbrowser.
I know this is a preview, but on my 8-core 3.6Ghz desktop with Firefox
12 it works sluggish.
I'd vote for keeping all the fancy stuff away or making it optional.
Wido
> -chip
>
> On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 1:34 PM, Will Chan <wi...@citrix.com> wrote:
>> I personally would like it if the navigation would just slide out. The 3d stuff although is "cool", doesn't seem to add anything useful in terms of UX. In fact, I would argue it makes it slightly less useful because the text become blurry.
>>
>> Also, I assume this required HTML5 and building something like this prevents users of older browsers the ability to use this unless you plan on having supporting multiple navigation models.
>>
>> Will
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Sonny Chhen [mailto:Sonny.Chhen@citrix.com]
>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 9:44 AM
>>> To: cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org; cloudstack-
>>> dev@incubator.apache.org
>>> Subject: UI: Navigation concept
>>>
>>> Hello All,
>>>
>>> In an effort to gain more screen real estate, a few front-end developers and I
>>> have been playing around with changing the navigation and are researching
>>> a few things like max and min width in the css. Below is a link to a sample of
>>> a "3d cubed" based navigation. Would love to hear thoughts regarding this
>>> idea. We are still working on some of the more requested items in the
>>> feedback(too many clicks, easier accessibility, etc...) but are taking things
>>> step by step.
>>>
>>> http://www.schhen.com/citrix/demos/demo5/
>>>
>>> Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns.
>>>
>>> Thanks You and Best Regards,
>>>
>>> Sonny H. Chhen
>>> Manager of User Interface & User Experience | Citrix Systems -
>>> CloudPlatform
>>> 4988 Great America Parkway, Santa Clara, CA 95054, USA
>>
>>
RE: Navigation concept
Posted by Sonny Chhen <So...@citrix.com>.
Thanks for the feedback Chip. It seems that the sliding navigation may be the better route in this case. We may have the same slide down effect in another iteration of the notification as most people seem to miss the counter.
Thanks You and Best Regards,
Sonny H. Chhen
Manager of User Interface & User Experience | Citrix Systems - CloudPlatform
4988 Great America Parkway, Santa Clara, CA 95054, USA
-----Original Message-----
From: Chip Childers [mailto:chip.childers@sungard.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 10:46 AM
To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
Cc: cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Navigation concept
Sonny,
The 3-D effect is actually kind of jarring. Using that daily would probably cause some frustration.
Personally, I'm a fan of minimal animation... and when it does exist, for it to be fast and visually meaningful.
-chip
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 1:34 PM, Will Chan <wi...@citrix.com> wrote:
> I personally would like it if the navigation would just slide out. The 3d stuff although is "cool", doesn't seem to add anything useful in terms of UX. In fact, I would argue it makes it slightly less useful because the text become blurry.
>
> Also, I assume this required HTML5 and building something like this prevents users of older browsers the ability to use this unless you plan on having supporting multiple navigation models.
>
> Will
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Sonny Chhen [mailto:Sonny.Chhen@citrix.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 9:44 AM
>> To: cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org; cloudstack-
>> dev@incubator.apache.org
>> Subject: UI: Navigation concept
>>
>> Hello All,
>>
>> In an effort to gain more screen real estate, a few front-end
>> developers and I have been playing around with changing the
>> navigation and are researching a few things like max and min width in
>> the css. Below is a link to a sample of a "3d cubed" based
>> navigation. Would love to hear thoughts regarding this idea. We are
>> still working on some of the more requested items in the feedback(too
>> many clicks, easier accessibility, etc...) but are taking things step by step.
>>
>> http://www.schhen.com/citrix/demos/demo5/
>>
>> Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns.
>>
>> Thanks You and Best Regards,
>>
>> Sonny H. Chhen
>> Manager of User Interface & User Experience | Citrix Systems -
>> CloudPlatform
>> 4988 Great America Parkway, Santa Clara, CA 95054, USA
>
>
Re: Navigation concept
Posted by Chip Childers <ch...@sungard.com>.
Sonny,
The 3-D effect is actually kind of jarring. Using that daily would
probably cause some frustration.
Personally, I'm a fan of minimal animation... and when it does exist,
for it to be fast and visually meaningful.
-chip
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 1:34 PM, Will Chan <wi...@citrix.com> wrote:
> I personally would like it if the navigation would just slide out. The 3d stuff although is "cool", doesn't seem to add anything useful in terms of UX. In fact, I would argue it makes it slightly less useful because the text become blurry.
>
> Also, I assume this required HTML5 and building something like this prevents users of older browsers the ability to use this unless you plan on having supporting multiple navigation models.
>
> Will
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Sonny Chhen [mailto:Sonny.Chhen@citrix.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 9:44 AM
>> To: cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org; cloudstack-
>> dev@incubator.apache.org
>> Subject: UI: Navigation concept
>>
>> Hello All,
>>
>> In an effort to gain more screen real estate, a few front-end developers and I
>> have been playing around with changing the navigation and are researching
>> a few things like max and min width in the css. Below is a link to a sample of
>> a "3d cubed" based navigation. Would love to hear thoughts regarding this
>> idea. We are still working on some of the more requested items in the
>> feedback(too many clicks, easier accessibility, etc...) but are taking things
>> step by step.
>>
>> http://www.schhen.com/citrix/demos/demo5/
>>
>> Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns.
>>
>> Thanks You and Best Regards,
>>
>> Sonny H. Chhen
>> Manager of User Interface & User Experience | Citrix Systems -
>> CloudPlatform
>> 4988 Great America Parkway, Santa Clara, CA 95054, USA
>
>
RE: Navigation concept
Posted by Sonny Chhen <So...@citrix.com>.
The slide out navigation was another option. A demo can be seen here:
http://www.schhen.com/citrix/demos/demo1/#
This would have been the backup solution for older browsers that did not support css3.
Thanks You and Best Regards,
Sonny H. Chhen
Manager of User Interface & User Experience | Citrix Systems - CloudPlatform
4988 Great America Parkway, Santa Clara, CA 95054, USA
-----Original Message-----
From: Will Chan [mailto:will.chan@citrix.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 10:34 AM
To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org; cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org
Subject: RE: Navigation concept
I personally would like it if the navigation would just slide out. The 3d stuff although is "cool", doesn't seem to add anything useful in terms of UX. In fact, I would argue it makes it slightly less useful because the text become blurry.
Also, I assume this required HTML5 and building something like this prevents users of older browsers the ability to use this unless you plan on having supporting multiple navigation models.
Will
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sonny Chhen [mailto:Sonny.Chhen@citrix.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 9:44 AM
> To: cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org; cloudstack-
> dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: UI: Navigation concept
>
> Hello All,
>
> In an effort to gain more screen real estate, a few front-end
> developers and I have been playing around with changing the navigation
> and are researching a few things like max and min width in the css.
> Below is a link to a sample of a "3d cubed" based navigation. Would
> love to hear thoughts regarding this idea. We are still working on
> some of the more requested items in the feedback(too many clicks,
> easier accessibility, etc...) but are taking things step by step.
>
> http://www.schhen.com/citrix/demos/demo5/
>
> Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns.
>
> Thanks You and Best Regards,
>
> Sonny H. Chhen
> Manager of User Interface & User Experience | Citrix Systems -
> CloudPlatform
> 4988 Great America Parkway, Santa Clara, CA 95054, USA
Re: Navigation concept
Posted by Chip Childers <ch...@sungard.com>.
Sonny,
The 3-D effect is actually kind of jarring. Using that daily would
probably cause some frustration.
Personally, I'm a fan of minimal animation... and when it does exist,
for it to be fast and visually meaningful.
-chip
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 1:34 PM, Will Chan <wi...@citrix.com> wrote:
> I personally would like it if the navigation would just slide out. The 3d stuff although is "cool", doesn't seem to add anything useful in terms of UX. In fact, I would argue it makes it slightly less useful because the text become blurry.
>
> Also, I assume this required HTML5 and building something like this prevents users of older browsers the ability to use this unless you plan on having supporting multiple navigation models.
>
> Will
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Sonny Chhen [mailto:Sonny.Chhen@citrix.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 9:44 AM
>> To: cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org; cloudstack-
>> dev@incubator.apache.org
>> Subject: UI: Navigation concept
>>
>> Hello All,
>>
>> In an effort to gain more screen real estate, a few front-end developers and I
>> have been playing around with changing the navigation and are researching
>> a few things like max and min width in the css. Below is a link to a sample of
>> a "3d cubed" based navigation. Would love to hear thoughts regarding this
>> idea. We are still working on some of the more requested items in the
>> feedback(too many clicks, easier accessibility, etc...) but are taking things
>> step by step.
>>
>> http://www.schhen.com/citrix/demos/demo5/
>>
>> Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns.
>>
>> Thanks You and Best Regards,
>>
>> Sonny H. Chhen
>> Manager of User Interface & User Experience | Citrix Systems -
>> CloudPlatform
>> 4988 Great America Parkway, Santa Clara, CA 95054, USA
>
>
RE: Navigation concept
Posted by Sonny Chhen <So...@citrix.com>.
The slide out navigation was another option. A demo can be seen here:
http://www.schhen.com/citrix/demos/demo1/#
This would have been the backup solution for older browsers that did not support css3.
Thanks You and Best Regards,
Sonny H. Chhen
Manager of User Interface & User Experience | Citrix Systems - CloudPlatform
4988 Great America Parkway, Santa Clara, CA 95054, USA
-----Original Message-----
From: Will Chan [mailto:will.chan@citrix.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 10:34 AM
To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org; cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org
Subject: RE: Navigation concept
I personally would like it if the navigation would just slide out. The 3d stuff although is "cool", doesn't seem to add anything useful in terms of UX. In fact, I would argue it makes it slightly less useful because the text become blurry.
Also, I assume this required HTML5 and building something like this prevents users of older browsers the ability to use this unless you plan on having supporting multiple navigation models.
Will
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sonny Chhen [mailto:Sonny.Chhen@citrix.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 9:44 AM
> To: cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org; cloudstack-
> dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: UI: Navigation concept
>
> Hello All,
>
> In an effort to gain more screen real estate, a few front-end
> developers and I have been playing around with changing the navigation
> and are researching a few things like max and min width in the css.
> Below is a link to a sample of a "3d cubed" based navigation. Would
> love to hear thoughts regarding this idea. We are still working on
> some of the more requested items in the feedback(too many clicks,
> easier accessibility, etc...) but are taking things step by step.
>
> http://www.schhen.com/citrix/demos/demo5/
>
> Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns.
>
> Thanks You and Best Regards,
>
> Sonny H. Chhen
> Manager of User Interface & User Experience | Citrix Systems -
> CloudPlatform
> 4988 Great America Parkway, Santa Clara, CA 95054, USA
RE: Navigation concept
Posted by Will Chan <wi...@citrix.com>.
I personally would like it if the navigation would just slide out. The 3d stuff although is "cool", doesn't seem to add anything useful in terms of UX. In fact, I would argue it makes it slightly less useful because the text become blurry.
Also, I assume this required HTML5 and building something like this prevents users of older browsers the ability to use this unless you plan on having supporting multiple navigation models.
Will
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sonny Chhen [mailto:Sonny.Chhen@citrix.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 9:44 AM
> To: cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org; cloudstack-
> dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: UI: Navigation concept
>
> Hello All,
>
> In an effort to gain more screen real estate, a few front-end developers and I
> have been playing around with changing the navigation and are researching
> a few things like max and min width in the css. Below is a link to a sample of
> a "3d cubed" based navigation. Would love to hear thoughts regarding this
> idea. We are still working on some of the more requested items in the
> feedback(too many clicks, easier accessibility, etc...) but are taking things
> step by step.
>
> http://www.schhen.com/citrix/demos/demo5/
>
> Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns.
>
> Thanks You and Best Regards,
>
> Sonny H. Chhen
> Manager of User Interface & User Experience | Citrix Systems -
> CloudPlatform
> 4988 Great America Parkway, Santa Clara, CA 95054, USA
RE: Navigation concept
Posted by Will Chan <wi...@citrix.com>.
I personally would like it if the navigation would just slide out. The 3d stuff although is "cool", doesn't seem to add anything useful in terms of UX. In fact, I would argue it makes it slightly less useful because the text become blurry.
Also, I assume this required HTML5 and building something like this prevents users of older browsers the ability to use this unless you plan on having supporting multiple navigation models.
Will
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sonny Chhen [mailto:Sonny.Chhen@citrix.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 9:44 AM
> To: cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org; cloudstack-
> dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: UI: Navigation concept
>
> Hello All,
>
> In an effort to gain more screen real estate, a few front-end developers and I
> have been playing around with changing the navigation and are researching
> a few things like max and min width in the css. Below is a link to a sample of
> a "3d cubed" based navigation. Would love to hear thoughts regarding this
> idea. We are still working on some of the more requested items in the
> feedback(too many clicks, easier accessibility, etc...) but are taking things
> step by step.
>
> http://www.schhen.com/citrix/demos/demo5/
>
> Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns.
>
> Thanks You and Best Regards,
>
> Sonny H. Chhen
> Manager of User Interface & User Experience | Citrix Systems -
> CloudPlatform
> 4988 Great America Parkway, Santa Clara, CA 95054, USA
RE: Navigation concept
Posted by Sonny Chhen <So...@citrix.com>.
Thanks for the feedback Pranav.
We considered the tree structure as in the 2.2.x version but soon realized that the list of items in the tree view would begin to grow larger than the initial ui can handle. This may be something we can revisit when we look into increasing the size of the current ui.
Thanks You and Best Regards,
Sonny H. Chhen
Manager of User Interface & User Experience | Citrix Systems - CloudPlatform
4988 Great America Parkway, Santa Clara, CA 95054, USA
-----Original Message-----
From: Pranav Saxena
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 10:10 AM
To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org; cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org
Cc: Sonny Chhen
Subject: RE: Navigation concept
Hi Sonny ,
This seems to be a really good idea. However , I have something to suggest . How about the following -
When you navigate to the left hand side for the menu -items to appear (when the cube rolls) , why not have the tree structure view also for the tabs ( infrastructure , network etc. ) , like it used to be there in the prior versions of CloudStack UI.
This would give the user some kind of flexibility to either use the breadcrumbs or the tree structure (minimizes clicks as well + denotes the hierarchy as well ) to navigate to which ever place he wants to.
Please , let me know , how feasible and practical this idea would be.
Thanks & Regards,
Pranav
-----Original Message-----
From: Sonny Chhen [mailto:Sonny.Chhen@citrix.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 10:14 PM
To: cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org; cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: UI: Navigation concept
Hello All,
In an effort to gain more screen real estate, a few front-end developers and I have been playing around with changing the navigation and are researching a few things like max and min width in the css. Below is a link to a sample of a "3d cubed" based navigation. Would love to hear thoughts regarding this idea. We are still working on some of the more requested items in the feedback(too many clicks, easier accessibility, etc...) but are taking things step by step.
http://www.schhen.com/citrix/demos/demo5/
Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns.
Thanks You and Best Regards,
Sonny H. Chhen
Manager of User Interface & User Experience | Citrix Systems - CloudPlatform
4988 Great America Parkway, Santa Clara, CA 95054, USA
RE: Navigation concept
Posted by Sonny Chhen <So...@citrix.com>.
Thanks for the feedback Pranav.
We considered the tree structure as in the 2.2.x version but soon realized that the list of items in the tree view would begin to grow larger than the initial ui can handle. This may be something we can revisit when we look into increasing the size of the current ui.
Thanks You and Best Regards,
Sonny H. Chhen
Manager of User Interface & User Experience | Citrix Systems - CloudPlatform
4988 Great America Parkway, Santa Clara, CA 95054, USA
-----Original Message-----
From: Pranav Saxena
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 10:10 AM
To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org; cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org
Cc: Sonny Chhen
Subject: RE: Navigation concept
Hi Sonny ,
This seems to be a really good idea. However , I have something to suggest . How about the following -
When you navigate to the left hand side for the menu -items to appear (when the cube rolls) , why not have the tree structure view also for the tabs ( infrastructure , network etc. ) , like it used to be there in the prior versions of CloudStack UI.
This would give the user some kind of flexibility to either use the breadcrumbs or the tree structure (minimizes clicks as well + denotes the hierarchy as well ) to navigate to which ever place he wants to.
Please , let me know , how feasible and practical this idea would be.
Thanks & Regards,
Pranav
-----Original Message-----
From: Sonny Chhen [mailto:Sonny.Chhen@citrix.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 10:14 PM
To: cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org; cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: UI: Navigation concept
Hello All,
In an effort to gain more screen real estate, a few front-end developers and I have been playing around with changing the navigation and are researching a few things like max and min width in the css. Below is a link to a sample of a "3d cubed" based navigation. Would love to hear thoughts regarding this idea. We are still working on some of the more requested items in the feedback(too many clicks, easier accessibility, etc...) but are taking things step by step.
http://www.schhen.com/citrix/demos/demo5/
Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns.
Thanks You and Best Regards,
Sonny H. Chhen
Manager of User Interface & User Experience | Citrix Systems - CloudPlatform
4988 Great America Parkway, Santa Clara, CA 95054, USA
RE: Navigation concept
Posted by Pranav Saxena <pr...@citrix.com>.
Hi Sonny ,
This seems to be a really good idea. However , I have something to suggest . How about the following -
When you navigate to the left hand side for the menu -items to appear (when the cube rolls) , why not have the tree structure view also for the tabs ( infrastructure , network etc. ) , like it used to be there in the prior versions of CloudStack UI.
This would give the user some kind of flexibility to either use the breadcrumbs or the tree structure (minimizes clicks as well + denotes the hierarchy as well ) to navigate to which ever place he wants to.
Please , let me know , how feasible and practical this idea would be.
Thanks & Regards,
Pranav
-----Original Message-----
From: Sonny Chhen [mailto:Sonny.Chhen@citrix.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 10:14 PM
To: cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org; cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: UI: Navigation concept
Hello All,
In an effort to gain more screen real estate, a few front-end developers and I have been playing around with changing the navigation and are researching a few things like max and min width in the css. Below is a link to a sample of a "3d cubed" based navigation. Would love to hear thoughts regarding this idea. We are still working on some of the more requested items in the feedback(too many clicks, easier accessibility, etc...) but are taking things step by step.
http://www.schhen.com/citrix/demos/demo5/
Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns.
Thanks You and Best Regards,
Sonny H. Chhen
Manager of User Interface & User Experience | Citrix Systems - CloudPlatform
4988 Great America Parkway, Santa Clara, CA 95054, USA
RE: Navigation concept
Posted by Pranav Saxena <pr...@citrix.com>.
Hi Sonny ,
This seems to be a really good idea. However , I have something to suggest . How about the following -
When you navigate to the left hand side for the menu -items to appear (when the cube rolls) , why not have the tree structure view also for the tabs ( infrastructure , network etc. ) , like it used to be there in the prior versions of CloudStack UI.
This would give the user some kind of flexibility to either use the breadcrumbs or the tree structure (minimizes clicks as well + denotes the hierarchy as well ) to navigate to which ever place he wants to.
Please , let me know , how feasible and practical this idea would be.
Thanks & Regards,
Pranav
-----Original Message-----
From: Sonny Chhen [mailto:Sonny.Chhen@citrix.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 10:14 PM
To: cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org; cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: UI: Navigation concept
Hello All,
In an effort to gain more screen real estate, a few front-end developers and I have been playing around with changing the navigation and are researching a few things like max and min width in the css. Below is a link to a sample of a "3d cubed" based navigation. Would love to hear thoughts regarding this idea. We are still working on some of the more requested items in the feedback(too many clicks, easier accessibility, etc...) but are taking things step by step.
http://www.schhen.com/citrix/demos/demo5/
Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns.
Thanks You and Best Regards,
Sonny H. Chhen
Manager of User Interface & User Experience | Citrix Systems - CloudPlatform
4988 Great America Parkway, Santa Clara, CA 95054, USA