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Article on Maven Usage
Hi All,
I saw the following at http://maven.apache.org/articles.html
" If you are writing an article on Maven we suggest contacting the
developers on the mailing list as we would be happy to provide feedback
to help ensure accuracy in your article. Just ping us on the dev mailing
list <mail-lists.html> to get in touch. "
I am hoping you would be able to help me, but if this is not the correct
forum please direct me to the appropriate one.
I have been an avid Maven user since 2004. I have greatly enjoyed and
appreciated it.
I am preparing an article for my company and I have been asked to
provide evidence of 'large, i.e. 100 person' projects using Maven.
I personally don't agree with their request because, Maven promotes
component based development and therefore you cannot have 100 people
working on a single component. In my opinion the days of Large
Monolithic projects are dead and gone.
But, Unfortunately I am not **yet :) ** the decision maker, therefore I
have to comply with their request.
Would it be possible to provide a list of, even apache foundation,
projects with size in LOC using maven. I would try and use the size of
the project based on LOC rather that people.
Any assistance in this regard is greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Lakshman
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Re: Article on Maven Usage
Posted by Nick Stolwijk <ni...@planet.nl>.
I can't provide a list, but if you checkout a maven2 project and use the
stat-scm plugin (mvn stat-scm:stats
<http://stat-scm.sourceforge.net/stats-mojo.html>) on it, you can find
the LOC for that project.
Hth,
Nick Stolwijk
Srilakshmanan, Lakshman wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I saw the following at http://maven.apache.org/articles.html
> " If you are writing an article on Maven we suggest contacting the
> developers on the mailing list as we would be happy to provide feedback
> to help ensure accuracy in your article. Just ping us on the dev mailing
> list <mail-lists.html> to get in touch. "
>
> I am hoping you would be able to help me, but if this is not the correct
> forum please direct me to the appropriate one.
>
> I have been an avid Maven user since 2004. I have greatly enjoyed and
> appreciated it.
>
> I am preparing an article for my company and I have been asked to
> provide evidence of 'large, i.e. 100 person' projects using Maven.
> I personally don't agree with their request because, Maven promotes
> component based development and therefore you cannot have 100 people
> working on a single component. In my opinion the days of Large
> Monolithic projects are dead and gone.
>
> But, Unfortunately I am not **yet :) ** the decision maker, therefore I
> have to comply with their request.
>
> Would it be possible to provide a list of, even apache foundation,
> projects with size in LOC using maven. I would try and use the size of
> the project based on LOC rather that people.
>
> Any assistance in this regard is greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks
> Lakshman
>
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Re: Article on Maven Usage
Posted by Brett Porter <br...@apache.org>.
On 01/11/2007, at 11:07 AM, Srilakshmanan, Lakshman wrote:
> I am preparing an article for my company and I have been asked to
> provide evidence of 'large, i.e. 100 person' projects using Maven.
> I personally don't agree with their request because, Maven promotes
> component based development and therefore you cannot have 100 people
> working on a single component. In my opinion the days of Large
> Monolithic projects are dead and gone.
What tends to happen is that smaller, distinct teams each use Maven
and interact with each other through the common repository of
artifacts - so even though the monolithic build/dev style is gone, it
is totally possible for hundreds (even thousands) of developers to be
collaborating within a common infrastructure.
> Would it be possible to provide a list of, even apache foundation,
> projects with size in LOC using maven. I would try and use the size of
> the project based on LOC rather that people.
Maven itself is one of the larger ones (especially when including the
various subproject frameworks and applications). Others that you
might look at are Geronimo, ActiveMQ, ServiceMix, Cocoon,
OpenJPA, ... there's plenty of examples.
Cheers,
Brett
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RE: Article on Maven Usage
Posted by "Srilakshmanan, Lakshman" <la...@police.vic.gov.au>.
I don't believe there is any one project in the company that has 100
developers, but it is early days and I could be proved wrong. But I
doubt it :).
Thanks
Lakshman
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From: Ralph Goers [mailto:Ralph.Goers@dslextreme.com]
Sent: Thursday, 1 November 2007 2:33 PM
To: Maven Developers List
Subject: Re: Article on Maven Usage
As Brett said this is kind of tough. I work for a large company and if
I had to guess I'd say that the 100 maven users number is being met. But
that is on lots of projects across a fairly large company. Many of these
projects are dependent on each other but are only tied to each other
through the Maven repository and the web sites the projects publish. In
a way, this isn't very different then saying each of your in-house
projects are treated much like the projects at Apache - they are just
other things you are dependent on. If you were to count the development
teams involved in those you are easily over 100 developers in those
projects alone.
Do you really have a single project with 100+ developers - or is it
really a bunch of subprojects with their own development teams?
Ralph
Srilakshmanan, Lakshman wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I saw the following at http://maven.apache.org/articles.html
> " If you are writing an article on Maven we suggest contacting the
> developers on the mailing list as we would be happy to provide
> feedback to help ensure accuracy in your article. Just ping us on the
> dev mailing list <mail-lists.html> to get in touch. "
>
> I am hoping you would be able to help me, but if this is not the
> correct forum please direct me to the appropriate one.
>
> I have been an avid Maven user since 2004. I have greatly enjoyed and
> appreciated it.
>
> I am preparing an article for my company and I have been asked to
> provide evidence of 'large, i.e. 100 person' projects using Maven.
> I personally don't agree with their request because, Maven promotes
> component based development and therefore you cannot have 100 people
> working on a single component. In my opinion the days of Large
> Monolithic projects are dead and gone.
>
> But, Unfortunately I am not **yet :) ** the decision maker, therefore
> I have to comply with their request.
>
> Would it be possible to provide a list of, even apache foundation,
> projects with size in LOC using maven. I would try and use the size of
> the project based on LOC rather that people.
>
> Any assistance in this regard is greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks
> Lakshman
>
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Re: Article on Maven Usage
Posted by Ralph Goers <Ra...@dslextreme.com>.
As Brett said this is kind of tough. I work for a large company and if
I had to guess I'd say that the 100 maven users number is being met. But
that is on lots of projects across a fairly large company. Many of these
projects are dependent on each other but are only tied to each other
through the Maven repository and the web sites the projects publish. In
a way, this isn't very different then saying each of your in-house
projects are treated much like the projects at Apache - they are just
other things you are dependent on. If you were to count the development
teams involved in those you are easily over 100 developers in those
projects alone.
Do you really have a single project with 100+ developers - or is it
really a bunch of subprojects with their own development teams?
Ralph
Srilakshmanan, Lakshman wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I saw the following at http://maven.apache.org/articles.html
> " If you are writing an article on Maven we suggest contacting the
> developers on the mailing list as we would be happy to provide feedback
> to help ensure accuracy in your article. Just ping us on the dev mailing
> list <mail-lists.html> to get in touch. "
>
> I am hoping you would be able to help me, but if this is not the correct
> forum please direct me to the appropriate one.
>
> I have been an avid Maven user since 2004. I have greatly enjoyed and
> appreciated it.
>
> I am preparing an article for my company and I have been asked to
> provide evidence of 'large, i.e. 100 person' projects using Maven.
> I personally don't agree with their request because, Maven promotes
> component based development and therefore you cannot have 100 people
> working on a single component. In my opinion the days of Large
> Monolithic projects are dead and gone.
>
> But, Unfortunately I am not **yet :) ** the decision maker, therefore I
> have to comply with their request.
>
> Would it be possible to provide a list of, even apache foundation,
> projects with size in LOC using maven. I would try and use the size of
> the project based on LOC rather that people.
>
> Any assistance in this regard is greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks
> Lakshman
>
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